CTS Transmission Mount Insert

[WurstS4]

Is anyone running this one?

https://www.moddedeuros.com/products/cts-turbo-transmission-mount-insert-b8-a4-s4-a5-s5-rs5

If so any feedback on it?

[2008s4]

I’m pretty sure they’re all the same. Amazon has some inexpensive ones.

[akop18]

Is anyone running this one?

https://www.moddedeuros.com/products/cts-turbo-transmission-mount-insert-b8-a4-s4-a5-s5-rs5

If so any feedback on it?I've been thinking about picking one up as well so I'd also be curious to know what people think about it.

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[OLDS4]

I'm going to hopefully be installing it today with my Canadian performance test pipes we will see.

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[WurstS4]

I've been thinking about picking one up as well so I'd also be curious to know what people think about it.

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Think I’m going to grab this one tonight.

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I'm going to hopefully be installing it today with my Canadian performance test pipes we will see.

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Probably will install this late next week, if not then the following week.

Let’s all reconvene and discuss in the near future!

[WurstS4]

I’m pretty sure they’re all the same. Amazon has some inexpensive ones.

Man you ain’t kidding, half the price!

Still think I’ll cop the CTS one to buy North American.

[akop18]

Think I’m going to grab this one tonight.

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Probably will install this late next week, if not then the following week.

Let’s all reconvene and discuss in the near future!For sure sounds good, I think I'm going to order it tonight and so I'll be able to throw it in this coming weekend.

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[OLDS4]

Yeah I didn't install anything today wife had me doing honey doos so maybe next weekend lol.

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[akop18]

Yeah I didn't install anything today wife had me doing honey doos so maybe next weekend lol.

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[OLDS4]

Sorry man lol it was cold outside wife was like that closet system ain't going to install itself, yeah hopefully next weekend. I'm thinking of installing this guy also I haven't purchased it yet but I'm thinking I should.302275

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[akop18]

I have not seen that before. Shit for the price of both parts I might pull the trigger on both of them and ask questions later.

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[OLDS4]

I have not seen that before. Shit for the price of both parts I might pull the trigger on both of them and ask questions later.

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[akop18]

That wouldn't be a bad idea. I just came across the 034 mount insert, although more expensive I might get it instead of the CTS. I'm always happy with 034 so I might go that direction but I dno yet.

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[akop18]

Yeah I just ordered that trans mount and the front strut mounts if I'm going to be there might as well.

Sent from my SM-N975U using Audizine Forum mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)How noticeable of a difference is there with those aftermarket strut mounts?

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[OLDS4]

How noticeable of a difference is there with those aftermarket strut mounts?

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[WurstS4]

Sorry man lol it was cold outside wife was like that closet system ain't going to install itself, yeah hopefully next weekend. I'm thinking of installing this guy also I haven't purchased it yet but I'm thinking I should.302275

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I was going to order that one as well, but it says right in the description on 034’s site, that that mount will cause vibration, so I’m avoiding it, my S4 is my daily and I put a ton of miles on a year, don’t want that even if it tightens things up.

[WurstS4]

Well guys, I went against my word and ordered an Amazon one lol. I mean the price difference is stark for a piece of easily machined aluminum, $17!

Definitely going 034 for sway bars and new motor mounts, but that one and even the on sale CTS is crazy expensive for what they are and the fact as long as it functions and holds up, you never see it under the car, so the nicer aesthetics/finish mean nothing for this particular part.

At least I’ll be able to review that one to compare and contrast.

I’m also probably going CTS on the HX upgrade.

[SwankPeRFection]

Sorry man lol it was cold outside wife was like that closet system ain't going to install itself, yeah hopefully next weekend. I'm thinking of installing this guy also I haven't purchased it yet but I'm thinking I should.302275

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Tell her to install your mount insert if you’re going to install her closet system. Lol

[OLDS4]

Tell her to install your mount insert if you’re going to install her closet system. LolYeah I just did that and she told me I don't have to worry about anything getting mounted :(

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[akop18]

Well guys, I went against my word and ordered an Amazon one lol. I mean the price difference is stark for a piece of easily machined aluminum, $17!

Definitely going 034 for sway bars and new motor mounts, but that one and even the on sale CTS is crazy expensive for what they are and the fact as long as it functions and holds up, you never see it under the car, so the nicer aesthetics/finish mean nothing for this particular part.

At least I’ll be able to review that one to compare and contrast.

I’m also probably going CTS on the HX upgrade.My intention is not to hijack the thread but I'm about to upgrade the HX as well because I want to do it before I go stage 2...it'd be cool if you could let me know how the CTS one is because I'm undecided on brand so any insight you could provide me would be helpful.

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[SwankPeRFection]

My intention is not to hijack the thread but I'm about to upgrade the HX as well because I want to do it before I go stage 2...it'd be cool if you could let me know how the CTS one is because I'm undecided on brand so any insight you could provide me would be helpful.

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I have the CTS one and in my opinion it’s very good for the price. If you can catch it on a sale, it’s worth it. The core is very big and multi-pass. Very easy to install. FYI, stock pump will work with it, but you could benefit from further cooling with a CWA100-3 pump, just don’t buy it from Tecomotive if you want a replacement warranty with it.

[akop18]

I have the CTS one and in my opinion it’s very good for the price. If you can catch it on a sale, it’s worth it. The core is very big and multi-pass. Very easy to install. FYI, stock pump will work with it, but you could benefit from further cooling with a CWA100-3 pump, just don’t buy it from Tecomotive if you want a replacement warranty with it.Ya the pump was going to be my next question lol. I think that's the route I'm going to go as far HX then thanks man.

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[SwankPeRFection]

Ya the pump was going to be my next question lol. I think that's the route I'm going to go as far HX then thanks man.

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Initially after the heat exchanger upgrade I didn’t think it would make much of a difference, but it does. The 100 just flows so much more and is able to shed more heat. You’ll also get a big bump in coolant volume with the CTS core without having to add any reservoir or anything just from hits size and end tanks it uses. For the money, it’s worth it over the other options I’ve seen offered. Good luck.

[akop18]

Initially after the heat exchanger upgrade I didn’t think it would make much of a difference, but it does. The 100 just flows so much more and is able to shed more heat. You’ll also get a big bump in coolant volume with the CTS core without having to add any reservoir or anything just from hits size and end tanks it uses. For the money, it’s worth it over the other options I’ve seen offered. Good luck.So it really makes a noticeable difference huh? I've always assumed that I needed to upgrade HX before I went to pulley upgrade and stage 2 software, is that assumption correct or no?

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[SwankPeRFection]

So it really makes a noticeable difference huh? I've always assumed that I needed to upgrade HX before I went to pulley upgrade and stage 2 software, is that assumption correct or no?

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A heat exchanger upgrade will help no matter what stage you’re on… even stock it’ll improve cooling performance for sustained pulls or repetitive runs. The pump is just an added bonus. If you can find one at a good deal (less than $300) it’s worth it in my opinion.

[WurstS4]

A heat exchanger upgrade will help no matter what stage you’re on… even stock it’ll improve cooling performance for sustained pulls or repetitive runs. The pump is just an added bonus. If you can find one at a good deal (less than $300) it’s worth it in my opinion.
Was going to say similar.

The guy who works on my car is an ex Audi/VW tech who owns a couple Audis including a B8 S4 which is Stage 2 and was 2+, and he recommended next time I do a service with the front clip off to do a HX upgrade even if I only go stage 1.

These cars have an intercooler the size of a brick and suffer from heat soak even stock, can’t hurt no matter what.

[akop18]

Was going to say similar.

The guy who works on my car is an ex Audi/VW tech who owns a couple Audis including a B8 S4 which is Stage 2 and was 2+, and he recommended next time I do a service with the front clip off to do a HX upgrade even if I only go stage 1.

These cars have an intercooler the size of a brick and suffer from heat soak even stock, can’t hurt no matter what.Ok that definitely makes sense. I think it was Swank who said getting it in was fairly easy, is the install pretty straight forward?

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[WurstS4]

Ok that definitely makes sense. I think it was Swank who said getting it in was fairly easy, is the install pretty straight forward?

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I’m not sure, haven’t installed one, but everyone says it’s not too bad.

I do work on my own cars sometimes, have done starters, fluid changes, drive shafts, rear difs, brakes, etc., but I have yet to do any of my own maintenance on my B8, haven’t had the time or space.

[akop18]

I’m not sure, haven’t installed one, but everyone says it’s not too bad.

I do work on my own cars sometimes, have done starters, fluid changes, drive shafts, rear difs, brakes, etc., but I have yet to do any of my own maintenance on my B8, haven’t had the time or space.Ya I've done everything on my B8 thus far, it hasn't seen a shop since I bought it. I'm not a real mechanic by any means haha but I'm able to work my way through things. I'm hoping install isn't too complicated...aaaand if it is I always have YouTube.

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[SwankPeRFection]

It’s really easy. Take front bumper cover off, take bolts out for the crash bar and pull that off. Line up the new heat exchanger with its brackets on onto the back of the crash bar and measure each side so it’s centered and pop your self-tap screws into the brackets. Mount the back back into the car and run your hoses. To make it easier, get yourself some of those plastic coolant hose plier clamps and clamp off the coolant hoses before you take off the stock heat exchanger so you don’t lose and ton of coolant and makes for a quicker/cleaner job. It doesn’t get any simpler than that.

Just make sure you orient the new heat exchanger properly so that you’ve got your in and out on the correct sides and you run the hoses to the correct barb for the flow.

[akop18]

It’s really easy. Take front bumper cover off, take bolts out for the crash bar and pull that off. Line up the new heat exchanger with its brackets on onto the back of the crash bar and measure each side so it’s centered and pop your self-tap screws into the brackets. Mount the back back into the car and run your hoses. To make it easier, get yourself some of those plastic coolant hose plier clamps and clamp off the coolant hoses before you take off the stock heat exchanger so you don’t lose and ton of coolant and makes for a quicker/cleaner job. It doesn’t get any simpler than that.

Just make sure you orient the new heat exchanger properly so that you’ve got your in and out on the correct sides and you run the hoses to the correct barb for the flow.Ya man that ain't going to be too hard then. I just put rs4 style grille in a couple months ago so I kind of saw how easily accessible the HX was once you had bumper cover off. I'm looking forward to the install. Thanks for the help it's much appreciated.

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[WurstS4]

Ya man that ain't going to be too hard then. I just put rs4 style grille in a couple months ago so I kind of saw how easily accessible the HX was once you had bumper cover off. I'm looking forward to the install. Thanks for the help it's much appreciated.

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Which one did you go with? That’s high on my current mod list. You’re a B8 right? Any pics?

[akop18]

Which one did you go with? That’s high on my current mod list. You’re a B8 right? Any pics?Enthusiast Brand. Got their carbon fiber mirrors too. I feel like it turned out fairly well at least. I did black optics rings and s4 badge and carbon fiber trunk spoiler at same time. 302411302412302413302414302415

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[akop18]

It’s really easy. Take front bumper cover off, take bolts out for the crash bar and pull that off. Line up the new heat exchanger with its brackets on onto the back of the crash bar and measure each side so it’s centered and pop your self-tap screws into the brackets. Mount the back back into the car and run your hoses. To make it easier, get yourself some of those plastic coolant hose plier clamps and clamp off the coolant hoses before you take off the stock heat exchanger so you don’t lose and ton of coolant and makes for a quicker/cleaner job. It doesn’t get any simpler than that.

Just make sure you orient the new heat exchanger properly so that you’ve got your in and out on the correct sides and you run the hoses to the correct barb for the flow.How much coolant will I need on hand for this job? If I get the coolant hose clamps/pliers I'm assuming I'm not going to lose much, is that a safe assumption? Just trying to figure out if I should order some coolant before I do the HX job just to be safe. I probably have about 3 liters in my garage at the moment.

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[SwankPeRFection]

I think you’re fine with that. It doesn’t take much coolant to even do a full fill. Get yourself some distilled water though. Unless you’re in frozen planet land, you’re better off running a little more water than coolant anyway. It’ll keep things cooler than a perfect 50/50 mix. Still run coolant as that has the antifreeze and lubrication benefits for the water pump, but you don’t need to get crazy perfect with that mix.

[akop18]

I think you’re fine with that. It doesn’t take much coolant to even do a full fill. Get yourself some distilled water though. Unless you’re in frozen planet land, you’re better off running a little more water than coolant anyway. It’ll keep things cooler than a perfect 50/50 mix. Still run coolant as that has the antifreeze and lubrication benefits for the water pump, but you don’t need to get crazy perfect with that mix.Ok cool and ya I have a gallon of distilled water in the garage. Lol wellll.....we get 50 and 60 below here in the winter (ND) so I try not to go too much water mix.

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[ccssid]

How much coolant will I need on hand for this job? If I get the coolant hose clamps/pliers I'm assuming I'm not going to lose much, is that a safe assumption? Just trying to figure out if I should order some coolant before I do the HX job just to be safe. I probably have about 3 liters in my garage at the moment.

Sent from my SM-G988U using Audizine Forum mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)I installed a Merc HX last year . Clamped hoses during the r & r of OEM to new HX. I have approximately 1/2 gallon left of 2 gallons of 50/50 mix.

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[akop18]

I installed a Merc HX last year . Clamped hoses during the r & r of OEM to new HX. I have approximately 1/2 gallon left of 2 gallons of 50/50 mix.

Sent from my moto g power using TapatalkOk good to know, I have the concentrate so I will use half of that. It gives me a pretty good idea of how much more I need so thanks for the heads up. Better to have too much on hand than not enough. What is the process once you get the hoses on the new HX? Because I am assuming I'm going to have more coolant capacity with the new HX so do I run the car a bit and then add coolant accordingly?

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[ccssid]

Ok good to know, I have the concentrate so I will use half of that. It gives me a pretty good idea of how much more I need so thanks for the heads up. Better to have too much on hand than not enough. What is the process once you get the hoses on the new HX? Because I am assuming I'm going to have more coolant capacity with the new HX so do I run the car a bit and then add coolant accordingly?

Sent from my SM-G988U using Audizine Forum mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)Here is a good video;

https://youtu.be/hc7uoln2u5s

Very important to have coolant in the funnel ABOVE the height of sc and heater core hoses. And keep it there during the bleed process. I never did bleed the heater core (couldn't loosen the hose.....aargh) but ran the heat etc. I was able to successfully remove sc bleed screws w/o damaging them....using the largest Phillips head driver ( I believe it's a #4) and maintaining plenty of downward force when unscrewing. I did replace with new homemade bolts and washers. Not as difficult as it may seem once you get all set up.

I used something similar to this. To get a tighter leak proof seal to coolant reservoir, I wrapped with duct tape.

https://www.amazon.com/OEMTOOLS-87009-No-Spill-Coolant-Filling/dp/B01A2CQSU6/ref=asc_df_B01A2CQSU6/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312142020868&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4911378484609917060&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9016792&hvtargid=pla-493792710903&psc=1

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[SwankPeRFection]

Do yourself a favor and before you even crank the engine up, hook the IC pump back up (may have forgotten to tell you to unplug it before you do your hose clamping so that you’re not fighting with it pressurizing the loop as you work) and let it prime and circulate the new HX by opening the driver door a few times. You should be able to hear water flowing through it and also bubbles starting to die down a bit if you do it a few times. Once you’ve done that for a bit and it’s sort of quieted down and it’s somewhat smooth sounding, then crank it and let it come up to temp. Keep in mind that you may need to top the coolant back up after a couple of drive cycles, so check it for the next couple of days after it sits overnight. As long as you’re not on a divorced system (doesn’t do shit anyway to improve temps), it’ll self bleed properly without much trouble.

[doughboy17]

My intention is not to hijack the thread but I'm about to upgrade the HX as well because I want to do it before I go stage 2...it'd be cool if you could let me know how the CTS one is because I'm undecided on brand so any insight you could provide me would be helpful.

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Welll ... you successfully hijacked the thread ... [:D]

[akop18]

Welll ... you successfully hijacked the thread ... [:D]Hahaha I know I had that same thought, I sincerely apologize to all. I am going to install the transmisson mount insert tonight...to bring it back to the intended subject matter.

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[ccssid]

Hahaha I know I had that same thought, I sincerely apologize to all. I am going to install the transmisson mount insert tonight...to bring it back to the intended subject matter.

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[akop18]

Will you be using the old bolts or new bolts?

Sent from my moto g power using TapatalkI am planning to use the old ones, what are your thoughts on that? From what I read and saw online everyone seemed to be using the old ones...and mine don't look to be in bad shape so I'm hoping the old ones work well.

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[ccssid]

I am planning to use the old ones, what are your thoughts on that? From what I read and saw online everyone seemed to be using the old ones...and mine don't look to be in bad shape so I'm hoping the old ones work well.

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a whole host of people re-use the existing bolts. Then there are the audi specs as described by the ECS website regarding their trans mount insert:

"This kit has everything you need for installation including new hardware to replace the torque-to-yield securing hardware installed from the factory, required to be replaced any time they are removed per Audi."

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-ecs-parts/transmission-mount-bushing-insert-kit/009860ecs01~a/

I, personally, follow the audi recommended procedures. Nothing worse than a snapped off bolt to ruin your day.

[akop18]

a whole host of people re-use the existing bolts. Then there are the audi specs as described by the ECS website regarding their trans mount insert:

"This kit has everything you need for installation including new hardware to replace the torque-to-yield securing hardware installed from the factory, required to be replaced any time they are removed per Audi."

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-ecs-parts/transmission-mount-bushing-insert-kit/009860ecs01~a/

I, personally, follow the audi recommended procedures. Nothing worse than a snapped off bolt to ruin your day.Ya so as soon as you asked me the question I went and looked and they are super cheap, the new bolts I mean. Mine did not come with new bolts, and I'm really not in a hurry to do the install...so I'm thinking I'm going to order them and use new bolts just to be safe. Because, as you said, I will be super mad at myself if I don't wait for new bolts and I end up snapping one off.

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[ccssid]

Ya so as soon as you asked me the question I went and looked and they are super cheap, the new bolts I mean. Mine did not come with new bolts, and I'm really not in a hurry to do the install...so I'm thinking I'm going to order them and use new bolts just to be safe. Because, as you said, I will be super mad at myself if I don't wait for new bolts and I end up snapping one off.

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From 034:

We recommend replacing your transmission mount bolts when installing the 034Motorsport Transmission Mount Insert. This OEM, M8 x 60mm bolt is a torque-to-yield bolt and should be replaced when removed from the vehicle.




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[WurstS4]

Ya so as soon as you asked me the question I went and looked and they are super cheap, the new bolts I mean. Mine did not come with new bolts, and I'm really not in a hurry to do the install...so I'm thinking I'm going to order them and use new bolts just to be safe. Because, as you said, I will be super mad at myself if I don't wait for new bolts and I end up snapping one off.

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You got a link to them?

[akop18]

You got a link to them?https://www.urotuning.com/products/034-billet-transmission-mount-insert-hardware-kit-audi-b8-b9-a4-s4-a5-s5-rs5-allroad-q5-sq5?variant=41071600992449

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[ccssid]

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/vw-screw-genuine-vw-n10724701

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[WurstS4]

Thanks guys!

[ccssid]

Thanks guys!

You're welcome

[bb-tt]

I am using the RKX thought it was only like 15$ when i got but looks like 30 now https://www.rkxtech.com/collections/transmission-drivetrain/products/rkx-billet-transmission-mount-insert-audi-b8-b8-5?variant=39805840687173

[akop18]

So I finally installed the 034 trans insert today. I am pretty surprised how noticeable the difference is. In all honesty, I did not think it would be much different from stock but it definitely feels better. Not just on higher rpm shifts but even just backing out of my garage and in parking lots the drive when you let off the brake is different...it feels healthier if that makes sense. It's one of those things that now that I've felt it I can't believe I didn't do this sooner. So ya I'm happy with it.

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[OLDS4]

So I finally installed the 034 trans insert today. I am pretty surprised how noticeable the difference is. In all honesty, I did not think it would be much different from stock but it definitely feels better. Not just on higher rpm shifts but even just backing out of my garage and in parking lots the drive when you let off the brake is different...it feels healthier if that makes sense. It's one of those things that now that I've felt it I can't believe I didn't do this sooner. So ya I'm happy with it.

Sent from my SM-G988U using Audizine Forum mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)Nice got my insert and my mount waiting to be installed glad to know it makes a good bit of difference.

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[akop18]

Nice got my insert and my mount waiting to be installed glad to know it makes a good bit of difference.

Sent from my SM-N975U using Audizine Forum mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)I think you'll be happy with it. I used new bolts, I would recommend doing the same. I'm sure you can make the old ones work if need be but the bolts felt soft to me, it did not feel like it would take much to snap one or to cross thread one of them. Maybe I'm wrong maybe they are plenty strong but they at least felt soft, you'll know what I mean when you take the stock insert out.

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[OLDS4]

I think you'll be happy with it. I used new bolts, I would recommend doing the same. I'm sure you can make the old ones work if need be but the bolts felt soft to me, it did not feel like it would take much to snap one or to cross thread one of them. Maybe I'm wrong maybe they are plenty strong but they at least felt soft, you'll know what I mean when you take the stock insert out.

Sent from my SM-G988U using Audizine Forum mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)Cool man thanks I might check into that I replaced my engine mounts a couple of months ago with cts mounts and that was a vast improvement probably mostly cuz my old ones were fully blown out lol.

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[akop18]

Cool man thanks I might check into that I replaced my engine mounts a couple of months ago with cts mounts and that was a vast improvement probably mostly cuz my old ones were fully blown out lol.

Sent from my SM-N975U using Audizine Forum mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)How difficult of a job was that just out of curiosity? Mine seem fine but they do seem like a relatively common problem so I'm just wondering.

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[OLDS4]

How difficult of a job was that just out of curiosity? Mine seem fine but they do seem like a relatively common problem so I'm just wondering.

Sent from my SM-G988U using Audizine Forum mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)I used the instructions from cts website had to buy an engine support bracket from harbor freight took me about 3-4 hours. Taking the rack down and disconecting the lines was time most time consuming.
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[akop18]

I used the instructions from cts website had to buy an engine support bracket from harbor freight took me about 3-4 hours. Taking the rack down and disconecting the lines was time most time consuming.
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Sent from my SM-N975U using Audizine Forum mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)I mean honestly that's not too bad considering the job. That mount looked pretty hashed man lol.

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[OLDS4]

I mean honestly that's not too bad considering the job. That mount looked pretty hashed man lol.

Sent from my SM-G988U using Audizine Forum mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)Yeah man there were clapped out for shure. I tried to do a launch and it was not happy with that lol.

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[WurstS4]

That’s one of my next fixes as well. Motor mounts.