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tombomb84
09-20-2006, 07:08 PM
today was my first time at the track suprisingly i ran a half way decent time for an a4. first run i bogged out of the hole and ran a 15.03 at 93 mph and the second run was all wheel spin which i ran a 14.9 at 95 mph. i have a front trak 1.8t with a giac 1 bar chip, with an untuned ko4 (currently running on the ko3 software). But yea thought i would share that, if youve never been to the track you should go because it is a rush, and even just to watch!

BranCKY3
09-20-2006, 07:16 PM
The k04 software will help out a lot... what track was this at? Milan?

partridgea4
09-20-2006, 07:27 PM
dumb question... but can you run the ko4 safely wiht the ko3 software??

tombomb84
09-20-2006, 07:31 PM
yea from what i heard you can run it safely. yea it was at milan. i was gonna go to lapeer but i hear it sucks and the track is like a street and has pot holes in it haha, milan is a great track imo.

partridgea4
09-20-2006, 07:34 PM
k thanks just wonderin but was never sure cuz i wanna go ko4 sometime soon

BranCKY3
09-20-2006, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by tombomb84
yea from what i heard you can run it safely. yea it was at milan. i was gonna go to lapeer but i hear it sucks and the track is like a street and has pot holes in it haha, milan is a great track imo.

Damnit... I was gonna go to Milan today but I had too much homework. Lapeer isn't as bad as people say, it isn't prepped or anything though. The track doesn't have any potholes or anything.. lol. I might go there this saturday actually to get my 12 second timeslip [:p]

tombomb84
09-20-2006, 07:49 PM
thats cool, the ko4 is a nice little boost in power but im already sick of it, but like i said i dont have the proper software for it but if i were to go back i think i would have saved my money for a BT, but for a daily driver the ko4 is probably the way to go, especially if your short on money.

tombomb84
09-20-2006, 07:52 PM
lol, lucky. ill be in your shoes soon i hope. im assuming you go to mike (piggy) for all your work?

BranCKY3
09-20-2006, 07:53 PM
Most of it, he did my clutch and my software tune as well as some maintanence. I put my turbo in and all that, and another shop did my exhaust and FMIC. What city are you in?

tombomb84
09-20-2006, 07:58 PM
i live in beverly hills, yea he did my chip and tb, he is a god when it comes to the s4 and has tuned some fast a4's as well.

a4rings
09-20-2006, 08:04 PM
i would be careful running the k04 on the k03 software, i've heard of a few people blowing their motors up. the k04 will be flowing more then the computer thinks and i think that means the motor will run lean.

98a4
09-20-2006, 08:31 PM
Not to get off topic, but why go ko4 anymore with eliminators out? With a ko4 its a 1000+ investment and your once again at the turbos peak, if not past, its efficiency. With elim there is a ton of room to play with and upgrade or a similar cost? Just my thoughts. Mabye if ko3 prices went down some....


Get a p16 or j31 file and rerun, id be intrested to see the actual results for the investment. What supporting mods do you have?

A4 rings. Ko4 will only flow a truely noticeable amount more for about 1500rpm in the top end, where chipped these cars run rich anyway. It should be fairly safe, or atleast get a adjustable FPR to be extra safe. FMIC would also drastically help protect the motor from detonation.

MR VTEC
09-21-2006, 04:55 AM
Originally posted by 98a4
Not to get off topic, but why go ko4 anymore with eliminators out? With a ko4 its a 1000+ investment and your once again at the turbos peak, if not past, its efficiency. With elim there is a ton of room to play with and upgrade or a similar cost? Just my thoughts. Mabye if ko3 prices went down some....


Get a p16 or j31 file and rerun, id be intrested to see the actual results for the investment. What supporting mods do you have?

A4 rings. Ko4 will only flow a truely noticeable amount more for about 1500rpm in the top end, where chipped these cars run rich anyway. It should be fairly safe, or atleast get a adjustable FPR to be extra safe. FMIC would also drastically help protect the motor from detonation.
Not so.
Ko4 cost around $700 shipped
total cost of a complete ko4 setup (non-j31 & non-p16) is $1200 which is just a few george washingtons short of the price for the hardware only elim option.

elim option is to keep stock appearance, sensors, and emission components.

so elim is not a replacement for the ko4 just the cost efficient way of going BT.

alen
09-21-2006, 04:58 AM
^^ i see your point but going BT guarantees an additional $1500 more over a K04 setup.

MR VTEC
09-21-2006, 06:19 AM
Originally posted by alen
^^ i see your point but going BT guarantees an additional $1500 more over a K04 setup.
AND $1500 less than the APR or PES kit.

onemoremile
09-21-2006, 06:35 AM
a k04 doesn't need a fmic or clutch like the eliminator turbos do.

98a4
09-21-2006, 09:52 AM
Ko4 P16 needs Injectors and FIMC and clutch if you want to actually drive it hard.

Just my thoughts, doesnt make scence to spend the money and be at the max potential again adn gain ~30-40hp... when a little more saving will open a ton of doors.

RAyala2.7T
09-21-2006, 01:45 PM
Alen: Are you J31 right now? If so, how is it and do you have track or dyno numbers?

alen
09-21-2006, 03:05 PM
yes i run it right now. didn't dyno it but managed an ET 13.99 several months ago. did some more mods since then to surely help better times.

i like it a lot. certainly noticed the difference from regular k05 file. the only thing that bothered me in the beginning is the tendency to overboost at part throttle at low rpms and i got a boost machine to help me with the boost onset but i've yet to make it work :(