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aRIf
04-03-2006, 06:26 AM
Yes, I did it yesterday. I did not have time so I only ran ones. It was first time for me so it was not a very good run and I had a problem with my second gear yesterday. I am sure I'll get better numbers next friday.

R/T:.559
60:2.146
330:5.941
1/8:9.006
MPH:81.30
1000:11.579
1/4:13.803
MPH:102.07

94jedi
04-03-2006, 06:59 AM
hmmm....the low trap concerns me a bit. Still, you should be good for a 13.5 easy.

get your 60ft down and you'll be fine. Make sure you post back after this coming friday!! we're all anxious to see what the 2871 can really do.

prodrive
04-03-2006, 07:00 AM
Good numbers for the first try.This weekend I will be trying either.My car is nearly stock yet and my competitor were Subaru's :(

aRIf
04-03-2006, 07:11 AM
I could not make a good launch. I droped the clutch about 6500rpm and tires spinn too much. I ran with a EVO 8 and he did launch better than me and did 13.2.

jedi94: My next run will be on Sunday. Deff. I'll post the times. I'll try to make something better than 13.5 and I think I can. I lost almost close to 1sn when I tried to shift from 1st gear to the second.

Prodrive: I did not know that there is a 1/4 mile track in Istanbul.
The track I know is only 200mt.

Eurotuned_A4
04-03-2006, 07:41 AM
you should definately be able to get the times down. ive never dragged before, so my first times wouldnt be the best either. a little more practice and youll be good to go!

Don Supreme
04-03-2006, 07:57 AM
Originally posted by aRIf
Yes, I did it yesterday. I did not have time so I only ran ones. It was first time for me so it was not a very good run and I had a problem with my second gear yesterday. I am sure I'll get better numbers next friday.

R/T:.559
60:2.146
330:5.941
1/8:9.006
MPH:81.30
1000:11.579
1/4:13.803
MPH:102.07

Second gear isn't as friendly as I would like it to be.

What RPM did you launch @?

aRIf
04-03-2006, 08:03 AM
Originally posted by Don Supreme
Second gear isn't as friendly as I would like it to be.

What RPM did you launch @?

about 6500rpm

Don Supreme
04-03-2006, 08:21 AM
Dam that's high...........

Did you grip right away or spin for a second?

Ray Khan
04-03-2006, 08:37 AM
what was your tire pressure?

Where you going through the water box on your way to stage?

High tire pressure and wet tires would hurt your launch. I think you are launching at too high an RPM as well. I would try 4000 or so and try a quick slip as the revs climb. I've never nailed on at the track either, just an occasional one on the street. I'm going to get my SBC installed later this month and once I get my FMIC sorted out I'll get some times as well.

TwentyValveB5
04-03-2006, 08:46 AM
supporting mods?

94jedi
04-03-2006, 09:20 AM
yeah just practice you're launch and you'll be so money(swingers). The tire spin was evident by your 60ft.

BranCKY3
04-03-2006, 09:22 AM
What RPM do you shift at?

Hopefully you get a better time next week. Work on the launch and maybe your shifting. Still that trap does seems quite low.. B6 guys are trapping 108 on the GTRS.

marcini
04-03-2006, 09:32 AM
^^^B6 Guys do 12.6s in the 1/4 mile too

AB18
04-03-2006, 09:36 AM
Yeah, you can can def run sub 13.5 if you get those 60fts down in the the 1.8s. Your definitly putting some power down though, with my stock s4 i cut a 1.8 and still only came ou with a 13.9.

aRIf
04-03-2006, 09:36 AM
Don Supreme: No problem with clutch (South Bend OFE SS Stage 4) but tires spinn a while.

Ray Khan: I did not go into water pool. I have quattro.

BranCKY3: I shifted at between 7000-7200

Eurotuned_A4
04-03-2006, 09:44 AM
arif, didnt you just get that clutch. your broke that in pretty quick. anyways, when do you plan on heading back?

AB18
04-03-2006, 09:47 AM
Arif, what kinda of launching strategy did you use? Try launching about 5k this time, and slip the clutch more instead of just a drop, it will help you not shred them as bad.

Emil@RENN-ART
04-03-2006, 09:55 AM
not too bad.. but the trap is pretty low for your whp rating.. you should be closer to 107-108.. maybe due to the shifter not being very friendly?

not bad for a 1 try run though.

what boost are you running?

btw, how many quarter mile runs do you have appx. total (with any car)? in other words, how much experience do you have dragging cars?

i've seen evo's with big turbos run 14's.. ;)

bring your 60ft down to at least 1.8 and get comfortable with shifting quickly and you should see 12's.

aRIf
04-03-2006, 10:23 AM
Eurotuned_A4 : I did about 600miles with this clutch and it is fine now. I'll go back to the track next sunday.

AB18: I did not really have strategy :(
I kept the tires dry
Lunch at 6500rpm (dropped the clutch when I see green)
Shift between 7000-7200

Emil@RENN-ART: I am running 23psi right now as you see in my dyno.
I have no experience about drag. This is my first time went to track and tried it. The Evo 8 next to me did 13.2 but he launch better than me. There is his slip;

Evo 8, runs 1psi more than stock;
R/T: .311
60: 1.943
330: 5.533
1/8: 8.490
MPH: 84.75
1000: 11.067
1/4: 13.212
MPH: 104.08

That's what I did.

Eurotuned_A4
04-03-2006, 10:27 AM
you always run 23 psi. damn man. im only running 19.

aRIf
04-03-2006, 10:36 AM
One question;

Evo has 286@6500 hp / 289@3500 at Crank
I have 294.8 hp / 255 torque at wheel

So Why I still have hard time to beat it....
I know Evo is brand new and my audi is 8 years old...

onemoremile
04-03-2006, 10:39 AM
because your time is hardly the best your car can do.

a better question would be:
if Charlie's heavy B6 Avant can do a mid 12 with the same turbo, what is my potential with a lighter car?

the answer is: plenty. just get some more seat time.

A4 TSCHUSS
04-03-2006, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by Emil@RENN-ART
bring your 60ft down to at least 1.8 and get comfortable with shifting quickly and you should see 12's.

He isn't gonna see no 12s with a 102mph trap speed. It needs to be up at like 106 with a 1.8 60ft.

or you can do like me and get a 1.66 60ft and a 12.75 @ 108.6mph [:D]

get that 60ft down like 2 tenths and the trap will go up 1 or 2 mph and the ET will improve by like 4 tenths

BranCKY3
04-03-2006, 10:45 AM
aRIf don't worry about your first run. It takes a lot of practice to get better...

Also how bad was your 2nd gear? Did you spend a couple seconds trying to get into 2nd?

A4 TSCHUSS
04-03-2006, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by onemoremile
because your time is hardly the best your car can do.

a better question would be:
if Charlie's heavy B6 Avant can do a mid 12 with the same turbo, what is my potential with a lighter car?

the answer is: plenty. just get some more seat time.

actually Charlie as do I have a smaller turbo, we run the 2860r not 2871r. And its not just the 60 ft. that is his problem. That trap speed is to low. What tuning do you B5 guys use, ATP or unitronic or something? <---- that is the problem, we B6 guys are fortunate to have Revo that has excellent programming for this kit, the 60ft will affect the trap speed a little but not that much, so I dont see it going from 102 to a 106+. The car needs to be faster on the top end of the track as well, to compare to my time this run was 2 tenths slower from 1000ft. to 1/4 mile(which doesnt matter about the 60ft since this is just pulling through 4th gear)

onemoremile
04-03-2006, 10:51 AM
the car wouldn't go into second gear. a second's worth of coasting would explain everything, wouldn't it?

A4 TSCHUSS
04-03-2006, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by onemoremile
the car wouldn't go into second gear. a second's worth of coasting would explain everything, wouldn't it?

not really, on one of my runs I missed 2nd gear last time I was out and my run was a 13.4 and still had a 106 trap. And I have also ran a 12.8 with a 106 trap

aRIf
04-03-2006, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by BranCKY3

Also how bad was your 2nd gear? Did you spend a couple seconds trying to get into 2nd?

not couple but it was about 1sn i think. Even After the race, my friends asked my what happen on the trach because they understood my gear problem while they were watching..

Aliel
04-03-2006, 11:33 AM
Also keep in consideration that aRIF was running a mix between sunoco 93 and 94. Basically all the B6 guys were running race gas in their 1/4s.

AudiA4_20T
04-03-2006, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by marcini
^^^B6 Guys do 12.6s in the 1/4 mile too

Exactly what I was gonna say, and our cars are lighter and he has a bigger turbo... Its not adding up

94jedi
04-03-2006, 12:27 PM
^ guys it's his first time at the drags. My first time ever was in my bone stock 88 GT 5.0. I think I ran a 16 something at like 86mph. I few months later I was able to whittle it down to a 14.02 at 97. The only differences were k&n panel, tune up, and plenty of much needed seat time.

94jedi
04-03-2006, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by marcini
^^^B6 Guys do 12.6s in the 1/4 mile too

remember that most of those early runs were with Mike H driving which pretty much amounts to a pro driver. Charlie didn't start running those times until he got some pratice and seat time with the car. No one is gonna be John Force their first time out.

Eurotuned_A4
04-03-2006, 01:15 PM
once it gets nice out i want to drag my car. that will give some comparison and etc since it will also be my first time at the drag strip.

A4 TSCHUSS
04-03-2006, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by 94jedi
remember that most of those early runs were with Mike H driving which pretty much amounts to a pro driver. Charlie didn't start running those times until he got some pratice and seat time with the car. No one is gonna be John Force their first time out.

Guess that makes me a pro driver too [confused] since I have a better 60ft time than Mike Hood in Charlie's car or any of the other BT A4s he has drove for their owner and my 1/4 was only .12 slower than the best time put down by Mike in Charlie's car. And this was on my 3rd time taking my car to the track. First time out I did a 13.1 running full interior 100 octane, 20psi of boost and my 19" rims.

mike-2ptzero
04-03-2006, 04:30 PM
You guys do understand that he is most likely running a pump gas tune right? IIRC I ran 13.4 at 103 with the same setup in a B6 on 91 octane.

A4 TSCHUSS
04-03-2006, 05:03 PM
^^ yeah I didnt know he was running pump until they just said that a few posts ago. Put some race gas in and that thing will wake up quite nicely.

mike-2ptzero
04-03-2006, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by A4 TSCHUSS
^^ yeah I didnt know he was running pump until they just said that a few posts ago. Put some race gas in and that thing will wake up quite nicely.


Wont help, the tuners are still working on the pump tune on these kits with the B5 since it is something they just started. I guess once they get that all working correctly they will do a race gas tune. Also remember that most of the B5's get an actual chip, so to change chips they would have to pull the ecu apart.

A4 TSCHUSS
04-03-2006, 05:48 PM
who is the software provider for the B5s?

Eurotuned_A4
04-03-2006, 05:52 PM
unitronic. i wish we could adjust like you guys with your B6s, but i dont think that will happen.

lovintheboost
04-03-2006, 07:47 PM
just wondering what most peeps are runing in the 1/4 with apr stage 3? like 13.8 on pump gas? seems like just a few months ago everyone was talking shit about the elims... unitronics brought them a long way

AB18
04-03-2006, 08:00 PM
My Stage 3 ran easy 13.5s on 93 with the 2.8trans, it was alot faster the s4 that i ran 13.9 with.

BranCKY3
04-03-2006, 08:45 PM
If you look back to aRIf's previous posts, his car is not running to it's full potential.
Taken from a previous post:
"New Logs tonight. 23psi with Cam2 110 octane mixed with 94 octane. CAPS time is 4.78"

Now that's 4.78 on race gas mix, and if you look on the CAPS page, 01A41.8T and BarryT82 pulled a 4.4 and 4.6 on pump gas.

Either there's something up with the software (ie too little timing) or maybe you were getting heatsoaked? Are you still on stock IC?

mike-2ptzero
04-03-2006, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by BranCKY3
If you look back to aRIf's previous posts, his car is not running to it's full potential.
Taken from a previous post:
"New Logs tonight. 23psi with Cam2 110 octane mixed with 94 octane. CAPS time is 4.78"

Now that's 4.78 on race gas mix, and if you look on the CAPS page, 01A41.8T and BarryT82 pulled a 4.4 and 4.6 on pump gas.

Either there's something up with the software (ie too little timing) or maybe you were getting heatsoaked? Are you still on stock IC?

Not sure why he thinks mixing 110 octane is going to help if it is a pump tune. Actually it will hurt if there isn't enough timing to support the octane.

Eurotuned_A4
04-03-2006, 10:27 PM
he has the greddy fmic so its not getting heatsoaked. maybe the psi he is running is to high.

BranCKY3
04-03-2006, 11:12 PM
I doubt that. He had 0 timing pull on his previous logs, maybe you should log yours eurotuned to compare. If yours is 0 also maybe you should ask for a software update.