FCP Euro Lifetime Oil

[texadelphia]

Mind blown.

https://i.imgur.com/H26afvS.jpg

[Jeevan]

Your are missing the point. New oil is about 23$. You have to spend more than 20$ to ship old oil back. Not to mention, the time to pack and ship.


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[texadelphia]

good point. not to mention the shipping costs.

[rhfosu]

Your are missing the point. New oil is about 23$. You have to spend more than 20$ to ship old oil back. Not to mention, the time to pack and ship.


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New oil is more like $40-50 for 5 quarts of decent VAG approved synthetic. Whether or not the savings balances out the time and effort required is another matter.

[texadelphia]

New oil is more like $40-50 for 5 quarts of decent VAG approved synthetic. Whether or not the savings balances out the time and effort required is another matter.

True, I thought $23 seemed low. I guess it comes down to hassle and the shipping cost. Assuming you can ship it for $20, that's still a half price oil change.

[Jeevan]

New oil is more like $40-50 for 5 quarts of decent VAG approved synthetic. Whether or not the savings balances out the time and effort required is another matter.

I don't want to start oil wars but 0W40 fullsynthetic(Valvoline,Castrol, mobil1, Pennzoil) 23$ at Walmart 24/7 works just fine for daily driving cars unless you only want to buy liquimoly stuff. I do 5-6k mile oil changes never 1 engine broke down in my 5 cars

In case you don't know, Liquimoly Molygen oil has no VW approvals(they just say recommend because they didn't get approval from VW) but all the brands like Castrol, mobil1, Valvoline has them.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Mobil-1-European-Car-Formula-Full-Synthetic-Motor-Oil-0W-40-5-Quart/23636902


http://www.walmart.com/ip/Valvoline-Advanced-Full-Synthetic-SAE-0W-40-Motor-Oil-Easy-Pour-5-Quart/893906283


http://www.walmart.com/ip/Castrol-EDGE-0W-40-A3-B4-Advanced-Full-Synthetic-Motor-Oil-5-Quarts/35931146




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[rhfosu]

I never realized Castrol edge was so cheap at Walmart.
I don't want to start oil wars but 0W40 fullsynthetic(Valvoline,Castrol, mobil1, Pennzoil) 23$ at Walmart 24/7 works just fine for daily driving cars unless you only want to buy liquimoly stuff. I do 5-6k mile oil changes never 1 engine broke down in my 5 cars

In case you don't know, Liquimoly Molygen oil has no VW approvals(they just say recommend because they didn't get approval from VW) but all the brands like Castrol, mobil1, Valvoline has them.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Mobil-1-European-Car-Formula-Full-Synthetic-Motor-Oil-0W-40-5-Quart/23636902


http://www.walmart.com/ip/Valvoline-Advanced-Full-Synthetic-SAE-0W-40-Motor-Oil-Easy-Pour-5-Quart/893906283


http://www.walmart.com/ip/Castrol-EDGE-0W-40-A3-B4-Advanced-Full-Synthetic-Motor-Oil-5-Quarts/35931146




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[DC5]

I don't want to start oil wars but 0W40 fullsynthetic(Valvoline,Castrol, mobil1, Pennzoil) 23$ at Walmart 24/7 works just fine for daily driving cars unless you only want to buy liquimoly stuff. I do 5-6k mile oil changes never 1 engine broke down in my 5 cars

In case you don't know, Liquimoly Molygen oil has no VW approvals(they just say recommend because they didn't get approval from VW) but all the brands like Castrol, mobil1, Valvoline has them.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Mobil-1-European-Car-Formula-Full-Synthetic-Motor-Oil-0W-40-5-Quart/23636902


http://www.walmart.com/ip/Valvoline-Advanced-Full-Synthetic-SAE-0W-40-Motor-Oil-Easy-Pour-5-Quart/893906283


http://www.walmart.com/ip/Castrol-EDGE-0W-40-A3-B4-Advanced-Full-Synthetic-Motor-Oil-5-Quarts/35931146




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Used to do Walmart....most of the times they didn’t have in stock, so having to order online and in store pickup.
Started doing the Molygen oil change kit from FCP....really can’t go wrong! Oil, filter and drain bolt for $53. Costs me last time shipping UPS $13 and change. Plus, do some fresh spark plugs, Cam follower kit or wipers with it (zero weight added, so it really works for me!


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[MALMGRDC]

I'll keep running Amsoil...

[Jeevan]

I'll keep running Amsoil...

I am running signature series not because I love AMS oil. Local guy sold me 27 quarts at 5$ a quart. This shit doesn't break down at all even after 6k miles. But the price is on the heavy side though.


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[Jayz691]

No, my oil change kit is $43(Molygen and filter), cost me $18 to ship back. So why is it not worth it???
Your are missing the point. New oil is about 23$. You have to spend more than 20$ to ship old oil back. Not to mention, the time to pack and ship.


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[Jayz691]

I don't want to start oil wars but 0W40 fullsynthetic(Valvoline,Castrol, mobil1, Pennzoil) 23$ at Walmart 24/7 works just fine for daily driving cars unless you only want to buy liquimoly stuff. I do 5-6k mile oil changes never 1 engine broke down in my 5 cars

In case you don't know, Liquimoly Molygen oil has no VW approvals(they just say recommend because they didn't get approval from VW) but all the brands like Castrol, mobil1, Valvoline has them.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Mobil-1-European-Car-Formula-Full-Synthetic-Motor-Oil-0W-40-5-Quart/23636902


http://www.walmart.com/ip/Valvoline-Advanced-Full-Synthetic-SAE-0W-40-Motor-Oil-Easy-Pour-5-Quart/893906283


http://www.walmart.com/ip/Castrol-EDGE-0W-40-A3-B4-Advanced-Full-Synthetic-Motor-Oil-5-Quarts/35931146




Sent from my iPhone using Audizine (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)Not that they didn't get it, they didn't bother. Cuz they won't certify because of the addituves in it. Not that its a bad thing.. But my oil consumption went down, and follorer wear is much better since switching to Molygen. Used Mobil 1 and Castrol before. Def better than both those. And my oil analysis came back excellent! Soooooo

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[texadelphia]

Not that they didn't get it, they didn't bother. Cuz they won't certify because of the addituves in it. Not that its a bad thing.. But my oil consumption went down, and follorer wear is much better since switching to Molygen. Used Mobil 1 and Castrol before. Def better than both those. And my oil analysis came back excellent! Soooooo

Sent from my LM-G710VM using Audizine mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)You had me at oil consumption....how much of a difference are we talking about. I switched to leichtlauf 2 changes ago and saw no appreciable change in consumption.

[Jeevan]

Oil burning cannot be fixed by changing oil brand. IF Someone claims that it usually means that they are in placebo effect. Don't listen to sales pitches look at Safety data sheets and talk to engineers

Not saying that liquimoly is bad. It's not American company so they have to pay a ton of import taxes so their prices are marked up a lot compared to American oil brands. Just because something is cheap doesn't means its bad.

All synthetics are mostly the same in additives like viscosity modifiers. Those sales people at Liquimoly make it seems like it's a special ingredients but all the full synthetics have them. Few true synthetics like AMS oil and redline has some additional molybdenum, Zinc and cleaning agents.

I have used almost all the brands of oil till now(don't mention diesel oils, I go by spec sheets. They are made for diesels specifically for a reason). All performed same and burned the oil at same rate( mine burns 1qt every 4000k miles). Only oil brand that actually improved fuel economy for me was AMS oil signature series( about +2 mpg) and actually doesn't break down after 5-6k miles. Again, at 14$ a quart, I would say thats not enough saving to continue using it forever.


You are driving a tiny 2.0 engine made for daily driving. You won't see anything significant change with just an oil brand switch.


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[Jayz691]

You had me at oil consumption....how much of a difference are we talking about. I switched to leichtlauf 2 changes ago and saw no appreciable change in consumption.Idk, cuz I have measured it. Just adding less. But the main thing is the better wear. Usually my followers wear through the coating(small spot in the middle) in 5k miles, cuz of previous owner haveing failure. Changed it when I did first change with it, and after 2nd chang(10k) I checked it, and had barely any wear. And nothing extra in my oil analysis. So good enough for me. And cost me $20 per change...192685

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[Jeevan]

Good. My follower wearsdown before 20k


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[Pillow]

but 0W40 fullsynthetic(Valvoline,Castrol, mobil1, Pennzoil) 23$ at Walmart 24/7 works just fine for daily driving cars unless you only want to buy liquimoly stuff. I do 5-6k mile oil changes never 1 engine broke down in my 5 cars


M1 0W-40 EF at 10k intervals and done.

Multiple cars over the years with 200k+ no problems what so ever on engine wear parts. (Most of these were with M1 5W-30)

The car will "recycle" itself before the engine has any issues from oil.

Adding: The FCP exchange program is nice... If you are local. Otherwise the shipping is not worth it IMO.

[texadelphia]

For you guys using 0w-40 do you see some advantage to that over 5w-40 besides being able to use cheaper oil? I would think that would cause an increase in consumption, getting past the turbo seals, etc. I've been curious about using it to see if it gets oil to the cam chain tensioner faster on start ups but have been nervous about straying from what Audi recommends for the engine.

[Pillow]

For you guys using 0w-40 do you see some advantage to that over 5w-40 besides being able to use cheaper oil? I would think that would cause an increase in consumption, getting past the turbo seals, etc. I've been curious about using it to see if it gets oil to the cam chain tensioner faster on start ups but have been nervous about straying from what Audi recommends for the engine.

0W-40 is factory fill on some turbo cars already and most Porsches. At least my Cayenne S (4.8 V8) has it as factory.

I did switch on our Volvo XC70 2.5T from 5W-30 to 0W-40 just because I want the turbo to be lubricated as soon as possible on cold days. It has almost 190k on it now w/o any problems and minimal oil consumption.

IMO the change from a 5W-40 to 0W-40 is negligible in any real world difference. M1 0W-40 is just convenient to get at almost any auto store and wally world.

[Jeevan]

For you guys using 0w-40 do you see some advantage to that over 5w-40 besides being able to use cheaper oil? I would think that would cause an increase in consumption, getting past the turbo seals, etc. I've been curious about using it to see if it gets oil to the cam chain tensioner faster on start ups but have been nervous about straying from what Audi recommends for the engine.

The zero or 5 in the front doesnt mean than 0w40, 0W50 and 0w30 flow exactly the same in the cold. That is more like a baseline for same oils in different brands . If you read data sheets you will understand. Oil manufacturers give the range of oils for ideal conditions like 35f in winter and 90-100F in summer. Their recommendations are mostly dead on in all of USA expect few states where Winters are brutally cold and you have to use 0W oils.


I have used 0W40 mobile 1 for 15k miles, 5W50 for 6k miles, a combination of 5w40 and 5W50 for about 15k miles in my B7. All have burned oil at same rate( 1 quart every 3800-4000 miles). With 5W50 engine gives around 1 mpg less than usual because of additional drag on the crank. Cold Viscosity numbers for 0w40 is about 87, 5W40 is about 110+, 5W50 is about 124+. These viscosity number vary slightly based upon oil brands very negligibly. 5W30 will give you bestgas mileage and better cold start protection on the head and bearing but more wear on cam follower at operating temp as per some people( I don't know because I never used it). Turbo chargers perform and last longer with 0W40 and 5W50 oils especially on the old cars like our with mechanical water pump driven by a belt. Newer cars have electric water pump which runs at constant speed at all rpm ranges and even run for few minutes after the car engine is switched off to keep the turbo cool. You can get away with 0w20 and 0w30 on those.

All the the new gen synthetics now flow almost the same in cold when you see it with naked eyes. Our cars mostly burn oil because of terrible PCV system and tiny leaks at turbo. Oil viscosity has negligible affect there.


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[Jay-Bee]

For you guys using 0w-40 do you see some advantage to that over 5w-40 besides being able to use cheaper oil? I would think that would cause an increase in consumption, getting past the turbo seals, etc. I've been curious about using it to see if it gets oil to the cam chain tensioner faster on start ups but have been nervous about straying from what Audi recommends for the engine.

I run 0w40 year round in all 3 of my vehicles, Castrol is VAG 502/505. My OCIs don't always line up with seasons but they live in climate that goes from -35 to +35 celsius just fine.

Both my 2.0Ts have ZERO oil comsumption over 7500-8000kms with Castrol 0w40(It's 50% PAO base stock), i've previously used Rotella and Liquimoly and they both had to be constantly topped off, but honestly ran fine.

Castrol was on for 29$ a jug at Canadian tire, i bought several cases so i'm good for years.

[Jeevan]

I run 0w40 year round in all 3 of my vehicles, Castrol is VAG 502/505. My OCIs don't always line up with seasons but they live in climate that goes from -35 to +35 celsius just fine.

Both my 2.0Ts have ZERO oil comsumption over 7500-8000kms with Castrol 0w40(It's 50% PAO base stock), i've previously used Rotella and Liquimoly and they both had to be constantly topped off, but honestly ran fine.

Castrol was on for 29$ a jug at Canadian tire, i bought several cases so i'm good for years.

Damn, a B7 without oil consumption. It's a unicorn right there especially in Canadian weather


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[oVeRdOsE]

Damn, a B7 without oil consumption. It's a unicorn right there especially in Canadian weather


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at the beginning, 0 oil consumption is impossible on any gas engine.

The base principle of lubrication require oil consumption, evaporation, lost of chemical links thus volume.

The 2.0t , even brand new will burn oil through the intake only because it need to lubricate the turbo journal beating. then add pcv recirc, piston seal, etc.

[rhfosu]

at the beginning, 0 oil consumption is impossible on any gas engine.

The base principle of lubrication require oil consumption, evaporation, lost of chemical links thus volume.

The 2.0t , even brand new will burn oil through the intake only because it need to lubricate the turbo journal beating. then add pcv recirc, piston seal, etc.

Well, if you adjust for Audi, 0 = <1qt over 5k miles.

That said, with new rings and a new turbo (granted it's a Garrett with ball bearings), my oil consumption over the last 4k miles, has been, ostensibly, and for all practical purposes, 0.

[oVeRdOsE]

Well, if you adjust for Audi, 0 = <1qt over 5k miles.

That said, with new rings and a new turbo (granted it's a Garrett with ball bearings), my oil consumption over the last 4k miles, has been, ostensibly, and for all practical purposes, 0.

haha , yeah audi correction factor.

Top ring piston need oil on any engine, if not they will seize. This oil is then burned off.


But yeah a good engine will burn and loose volume, just enough so you won't noticed if on xxxxkm . My bmw n55 engine did not go bellow the medium digital measurement over 10 000km. Between high and medium you can have 1 to 1.5L of gap , depending how much you put on a fresh oil change. Doesn't mean I wont burn oil, it means im in the bmw volume calculation gap.

this has been said, dip stick are the best

[Spike00513]

I don't want to start oil wars but 0W40 fullsynthetic(Valvoline,Castrol, mobil1, Pennzoil) 23$ at Walmart 24/7 works just fine for daily driving cars unless you only want to buy liquimoly stuff. I do 5-6k mile oil changes never 1 engine broke down in my 5 cars

In case you don't know, Liquimoly Molygen oil has no VW approvals(they just say recommend because they didn't get approval from VW) but all the brands like Castrol, mobil1, Valvoline has them.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Mobil-1-European-Car-Formula-Full-Synthetic-Motor-Oil-0W-40-5-Quart/23636902


http://www.walmart.com/ip/Valvoline-Advanced-Full-Synthetic-SAE-0W-40-Motor-Oil-Easy-Pour-5-Quart/893906283


http://www.walmart.com/ip/Castrol-EDGE-0W-40-A3-B4-Advanced-Full-Synthetic-Motor-Oil-5-Quarts/35931146




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No, M1 is $12 because Mobil has been running a rebate for only 7 years

but people hate to save money

[Jayz691]

No, M1 is $12 because Mobil has been running a rebate for only 7 years

but people hate to save moneyCuz Mobil 1 sux, lol. First oil I ran, and was like water. Now for $8 more, I run molygen. And thats including a Hengst filter...

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[bastafari]

Cuz Mobil 1 sux, lol. First oil I ran, and was like water. Now for $8 more, I run molygen. And thats including a Hengst filter...

Sent from my LM-G710VM using Audizine mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)Mobil 1 is actually a great oil in my experience. Viscosity and it's behavior is dictated by a couple of things like ambient temperature. What you might say was like water could be just the characteristics of that oil based on the temp. But you wouldn't want a synthetic oil that is like molasses at colder temperatures. I'm not a sales rep but I stand by mobil 1 and their filters. I only use liquimoly now for the fact that it has a uv dye additive to help detect leaks.

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[Jeevan]

1 person doesnt like no.1 brand oil in the world, no body cares.


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[Jayz691]

1 person doesnt like no.1 brand oil in the world, no body cares.


Sent from my iPhone using Audizine (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)No 1 oil brand, lol, [emoji108] and I'm not the only one. Very few people in my groups/forums run it. Most at least run Castrol, which was an improvement over Mobil 1. But for $18, molygen had been much bettet so far.

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[DC5]

No 1 oil brand, lol, [emoji108] and I'm not the only one. Very few people in my groups/forums run it. Most at least run Castrol, which was an improvement over Mobil 1. But for $18, molygen had been much bettet so far.

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Agreed. Used to do mobile 1...now on Molygen for the past few changes. Getting the kit from FCP is saving me a lot $


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[Charles.waite]

at the beginning, 0 oil consumption is impossible on any gas engine.

The base principle of lubrication require oil consumption, evaporation, lost of chemical links thus volume.

The 2.0t , even brand new will burn oil through the intake only because it need to lubricate the turbo journal beating. then add pcv recirc, piston seal, etc.

Well yea all engines burn a tiny bit of oil. But the common definition of burning oil means it requires a topoff before the factory OCI is up. My b6 never needed a topoff. My old B7 never needed a topoff. My Q5 required one. My current B7 needs a quart every 1400 miles. I would say my two previous A4s didn't burn oil because they didn't need top-offs before my 8000 mile OCI.

As far as brand mattering? Meh. I use Rotella T6 because its cheap. However I've read quite about about micro-soot deposits being a major source of wear in DI engines caused directly by traditionally used wear reducing additives like ZDDP. So DI engines actually have very specific additive requirements that were sort of unknown during the initial rollout of first-gen direct injection systems (of which our B7s are definitely gen1). Going forward, particularly as I'm planning on getting my rebuilt engine installed I'm going to be paying VERY particular attention to using a DI-specific oil (not necessarily a VAG-approved oil).

Also, Molygen is VAG approved for our engines, FYI Jeevan: https://products.liqui-moly.us/molygen-new-generation-sae-5w-40-3.html

[Jeevan]

Well yea all engines burn a tiny bit of oil. But the common definition of burning oil means it requires a topoff before the factory OCI is up. My b6 never needed a topoff. My old B7 never needed a topoff. My Q5 required one. My current B7 needs a quart every 1400 miles. I would say my two previous A4s didn't burn oil because they didn't need top-offs before my 8000 mile OCI.

As far as brand mattering? Meh. I use Rotella T6 because its cheap. However I've read quite about about micro-soot deposits being a major source of wear in DI engines caused directly by traditionally used wear reducing additives like ZDDP. So DI engines actually have very specific additive requirements that were sort of unknown during the initial rollout of first-gen direct injection systems (of which our B7s are definitely gen1). Going forward, particularly as I'm planning on getting my rebuilt engine installed I'm going to be paying VERY particular attention to using a DI-specific oil (not necessarily a VAG-approved oil).

Also, Molygen is VAG approved for our engines, FYI Jeevan: https://products.liqui-moly.us/molygen-new-generation-sae-5w-40-3.html

It says approvals and recommendations. Some car brands didnt give the approval for green oil and VW is one of those. You can confirm by calling them directly. They say recommendations because its vague and business tactics to avoid saying “ not approved “.


EOD I dont think any brands matter. I am running AMS for over an year now. Everything seems and runs same as mobil 1. Its all placebo affect


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[Jayz691]

It says approvals and recommendations. Some car brands didnt give the approval for green oil and VW is one of those. You can confirm by calling them directly. They say recommendations because its vague and business tactics to avoid saying “ not approved “.


EOD I dont think any brands matter. I am running AMS for over an year now. Everything seems and runs same as mobil 1. Its all placebo affect


Sent from my iPhone using Audizine (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)Yes, the only readon they didnt/won't get VAG approval is because of the UV additive. As far as all the same, nah. Biggest difference ive noticed so far is far less wear on my cam follower, than normal. Thats proof enough for me. But to each their own. You can run whatever is cheapest, and with FCP, this is cheapest for me. And im very happy with it..you can run store brand shit for all I care, lol.

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[EvolutionArmory]

Oil, oil, blah blah, oil.

I use Total because that’s what the guy who changes my oil carries. If he used Mobil 1, I’d still go there.

Why do car guys love to talk about oil brands like any major brand synthetic is lightyears better than the others?

Most major brand synthetic oils are better than they need to be.

[hammond]

Oil is oil and all the synthetics work d same on daily's. EOD

[Charles.waite]

It says approvals and recommendations. Some car brands didnt give the approval for green oil and VW is one of those. You can confirm by calling them directly. They say recommendations because its vague and business tactics to avoid saying “ not approved “.


EOD I dont think any brands matter. I am running AMS for over an year now. Everything seems and runs same as mobil 1. Its all placebo affect


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It literally says on the page I linked that it’s VAG 502 and 505 approved...

[Charles.waite]

Oil is oil and all the synthetics work d same on daily's. EOD

I’d agree with the caveat that all major brands are with the right weight range are likely going to work just fine for a daily provided you aren’t stretching intervals past 10k regularly. I know most guys around here do much shorter intervals so realistically you’re good if it’s the right weight and not garbage house brand conventional stuff.

[Jeevan]

Yes, the only readon they didnt/won't get VAG approval is because of the UV additive. As far as all the same, nah. Biggest difference ive noticed so far is far less wear on my cam follower, than normal. Thats proof enough for me. But to each their own. You can run whatever is cheapest, and with FCP, this is cheapest for me. And im very happy with it..you can run store brand shit for all I care, lol.

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Well that store brand shit ran every single one of my cars over 200k when I sold them and were still running just fine.


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[rhfosu]

Fucking oil threads.

[Jeevan]

It literally says on the page I linked that it’s VAG 502 and 505 approved...

Again you didnt bother to understand my previous comment. Here you go see this picture

193972


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[Charles.waite]

Again you didnt bother to understand my previous comment. Here you go see this picture

193972


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So you’re saying you didn’t click the link I posted above and scroll down to the certifications where it lists VAG 502 and 505? I’m happy to wait while you do that.

For the record, also, I’m not trying to “call you out” here, so no need to be an aggressive ass here. Simply saying liquimoly lists the moly gen oil I linked to above as VAG approved and they show up when you put in b7 A4 into their oil compatibility finder.

[Charles.waite]

Fucking oil threads.

No kidding. I always regret posting in them, but yet I always do...

[texadelphia]

No kidding. I always regret posting in them, but yet I always do...

"Maverick's disengaging sir!"

[Jeevan]

So you’re saying you didn’t click the link I posted above and scroll down to the certifications where it lists VAG 502 and 505? I’m happy to wait while you do that.

For the record, also, I’m not trying to “call you out” here, so no need to be an aggressive ass here. Simply saying liquimoly lists the moly gen oil I linked to above as VAG approved and they show up when you put in b7 A4 into their oil compatibility finder.

I am not calling out either. That link says approvals and recommendations not once said its approved VW spec. Its about being right. Do you really trust a brand spreading lies on their website? Honestly i dont think approvals matter but its about their deceit in marketing that gets me every time. I bought transmission fluid it was the same case for that too.


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[Jayz691]

Well honestly, this isn't even an oil thread. Its about FCP's oil return policy. But people turned it around saying "I run $12/gal oil and its fine", lol. Ok, fine keep doing it. Ive had bettet results now, than the orevious 2 oils I ran over the last 3 years. And pushing the car harder, so I'm happy. And still cost me less than your cheap oils, lol. [emoji4] Again, to each their own...

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[Jayz691]

And you started the whole thing.....
I don't want to start oil wars but 0W40 fullsynthetic(Valvoline,Castrol, mobil1, Pennzoil) 23$ at Walmart 24/7 works just fine for daily driving cars unless you only want to buy liquimoly stuff. I do 5-6k mile oil changes never 1 engine broke down in my 5 cars

In case you don't know, Liquimoly Molygen oil has no VW approvals(they just say recommend because they didn't get approval from VW) but all the brands like Castrol, mobil1, Valvoline has them.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Mobil-1-European-Car-Formula-Full-Synthetic-Motor-Oil-0W-40-5-Quart/23636902


http://www.walmart.com/ip/Valvoline-Advanced-Full-Synthetic-SAE-0W-40-Motor-Oil-Easy-Pour-5-Quart/893906283


http://www.walmart.com/ip/Castrol-EDGE-0W-40-A3-B4-Advanced-Full-Synthetic-Motor-Oil-5-Quarts/35931146




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[Charles.waite]

I am not calling out either. That link says approvals and recommendations not once said its approved VW spec. Its about being right. Do you really trust a brand spreading lies on their website? Honestly i dont think approvals matter but its about their deceit in marketing that gets me every time. I bought transmission fluid it was the same case for that too.


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Holy shit man, do i need to post screenshots? Do you even know how to internet? This isn't rocket surgery...

https://products.liqui-moly.us/molygen-new-generation-sae-5w-40-3.html

MOLYGEN NEW GENERATION SAE 5W-40

LIQUI MOLY RECOMMENDS THIS PRODUCT FOR VEHICLES THAT NEEDS TO COMPLY THE FOLLOWING SPECIFICATIONS:
ACEA A3
ACEA B4
API SN
BMW Longlife-01 (bis MJ 2018)
Fiat 9.55535-H2
Fiat 9.55535-N2
Fiat 9.55535-Z2
MB 229.5
Opel GM-LL-B-025
Porsche A40
Renault RN 0700
Renault RN 0710
VW 502 00
VW 505 00

Again, it says:

VW 502 00
VW 505 00


Made it large so you can't miss it.

Also why did you feel the need to be such a prick to the Liquimoly rep on facebook messenger? Not that it would seem to be out of character for you but, christ, maybe be less of an ass once and a while...

But yea, bock on topic here. IMO, the "ship the oil back across the country" is a weird thing to do. I get its possibly cheaper, but I can recycle it locally for free, and its not needing to get trucked across the country, probably burning more fuel in the process than its saving. Aka bad for the environment.

[rhfosu]

Holy shit man, do i need to post screenshots? Do you even know how to internet? This isn't rocket surgery...

https://products.liqui-moly.us/molygen-new-generation-sae-5w-40-3.html

MOLYGEN NEW GENERATION SAE 5W-40

LIQUI MOLY RECOMMENDS THIS PRODUCT FOR VEHICLES THAT NEEDS TO COMPLY THE FOLLOWING SPECIFICATIONS:
ACEA A3
ACEA B4
API SN
BMW Longlife-01 (bis MJ 2018)
Fiat 9.55535-H2
Fiat 9.55535-N2
Fiat 9.55535-Z2
MB 229.5
Opel GM-LL-B-025
Porsche A40
Renault RN 0700
Renault RN 0710
VW 502 00
VW 505 00

Again, it says:

VW 502 00
VW 505 00


Made it large so you can't miss it.

Also why did you feel the need to be such a prick to the Liquimoly rep on facebook messenger? Not that it would seem to be out of character for you but, christ, maybe be less of an ass once and a while...

In his defense, I will say that the website "recommends" their oil to comply with those standards, but it does not appear they ever officially got the approval from VW. Whether or not that should matter to anyone is debatable. It clearly appears Liquimoly had the standard in mind when they engineered the oil, and it is likely more than fine, but as someone stated earlier, the UV dye might make in incompatible with those standards. That said, it's super shitty to talk to a stranger like that unprovoked.



But yea, bock on topic here. IMO, the "ship the oil back across the country" is a weird thing to do. I get its possibly cheaper, but I can recycle it locally for free, and its not needing to get trucked across the country, probably burning more fuel in the process than its saving. Aka bad for the environment.

It's a weird gimmick. I assume it is a "loss leader" for them. They lose money on the fluids, but it gets you on their site buying other stuff. I'd love to see their internal numbers on the ROI. Also makes me think there must be a HUGE markup on oil. I refuse to believe they are taking a $40 hit on every 5Q of replacement oil they send out.

[SoFarGon]

Again you didnt bother to understand my previous comment. Here you go see this picture

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Imagine being that much of a dick to someone trying to answer a question.

[Jay-Bee]

"Recommended for" is not the same as a manufacturer approval, they are careful with their wording.


Imagine being that much of a dick to someone trying to answer a question.

Ha I was thinking the same.

[Jeevan]

Holy shit man, do i need to post screenshots? Do you even know how to internet? This isn't rocket surgery...

https://products.liqui-moly.us/molygen-new-generation-sae-5w-40-3.html

MOLYGEN NEW GENERATION SAE 5W-40

LIQUI MOLY RECOMMENDS THIS PRODUCT FOR VEHICLES THAT NEEDS TO COMPLY THE FOLLOWING SPECIFICATIONS:
ACEA A3
ACEA B4
API SN
BMW Longlife-01 (bis MJ 2018)
Fiat 9.55535-H2
Fiat 9.55535-N2
Fiat 9.55535-Z2
MB 229.5
Opel GM-LL-B-025
Porsche A40
Renault RN 0700
Renault RN 0710
VW 502 00
VW 505 00

Again, it says:

VW 502 00
VW 505 00


Made it large so you can't miss it.

Also why did you feel the need to be such a prick to the Liquimoly rep on facebook messenger? Not that it would seem to be out of character for you but, christ, maybe be less of an ass once and a while...

But yea, bock on topic here. IMO, the "ship the oil back across the country" is a weird thing to do. I get its possibly cheaper, but I can recycle it locally for free, and its not needing to get trucked across the country, probably burning more fuel in the process than its saving. Aka bad for the environment.

Call liquimoly or go to sleep. Recommendations Are not the same as approvals.You say I am being a prick but you you are also acting like one. If you’re not satisfied you can please call LiquiMoly directly I have even posted the screenshot of my chat you can also check Bob Is the oil guy. There you go I said it.

Maybe it’s time for you to pay attention to what you read online

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[bastafari]

Well194000

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[Jeevan]

And you started the whole thing.....

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If I remember correctly you were The one sayiing that Liquimoly has friction modifier‘s and your cam follower lasting longer than usual. Every goddamn oil has friction modifier’s. In simple words these are called

Every I listening when you’re running in daily daily drivers. Paying more money gives you a placebo affect


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[Jayz691]

Holy shit man, do i need to post screenshots? Do you even know how to internet? This isn't rocket surgery...

https://products.liqui-moly.us/molygen-new-generation-sae-5w-40-3.html

MOLYGEN NEW GENERATION SAE 5W-40

LIQUI MOLY RECOMMENDS THIS PRODUCT FOR VEHICLES THAT NEEDS TO COMPLY THE FOLLOWING SPECIFICATIONS:
ACEA A3
ACEA B4
API SN
BMW Longlife-01 (bis MJ 2018)
Fiat 9.55535-H2
Fiat 9.55535-N2
Fiat 9.55535-Z2
MB 229.5
Opel GM-LL-B-025
Porsche A40
Renault RN 0700
Renault RN 0710
VW 502 00
VW 505 00

Again, it says:

VW 502 00
VW 505 00


Made it large so you can't miss it.

Also why did you feel the need to be such a prick to the Liquimoly rep on facebook messenger? Not that it would seem to be out of character for you but, christ, maybe be less of an ass once and a while...

But yea, bock on topic here. IMO, the "ship the oil back across the country" is a weird thing to do. I get its possibly cheaper, but I can recycle it locally for free, and its not needing to get trucked across the country, probably burning more fuel in the process than its saving. Aka bad for the environment.Well, only goes 1 state for me. May not be worth it for people in Cali, but I'm in PA.

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[Jayz691]

If I remember correctly you were The one sayiing that Liquimoly has friction modifier‘s and your cam follower lasting longer than usual. Every goddamn oil has friction modifier’s. In simple words these are called

Every I listening when you’re running in daily daily drivers. Paying more money gives you a placebo affect


Sent from my iPhone using Audizine (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)How is less wear on my follower a placebo affect??? And I don't pay more, I actually pay less than you[emoji6][emoji18]

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[DC5]

Well honestly, this isn't even an oil thread. Its about FCP's oil return policy. But people turned it around saying "I run $12/gal oil and its fine", lol. Ok, fine keep doing it. Ive had bettet results now, than the orevious 2 oils I ran over the last 3 years. And pushing the car harder, so I'm happy. And still cost me less than your cheap oils, lol. [emoji4] Again, to each their own...

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[emoji1376] I won’t shop anyplace else for my oil & parts! FCP is awesome!!! SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES!
Had to replace parts more than once...now learned my lesson! The cost of shipping back isn’t bad at all & cheaper than buying at Walmart! Plus the filter cost, unless the rest of you all don’t replace this lol [emoji85]


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