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STomHacks
07-27-2020, 07:51 AM
Hi guys, I try to improve/upgrade my brakes on my Audi A4 B7 Quattro Wagon.
I find that the braking is not very good and I have a metallic noise on the right side when I brake a bit hard.
Do you know how I can improve that ? With a new brand of brakes ? Which brand combo do you recommend for brakes ?
Thank you
Kevin C
07-27-2020, 08:25 AM
Stock B7 brakes are pretty decent. I would look to see that they are in good working order before considering an upgrade. If you want to feel better about your brakes drive a B6 1.8t for a few weeks and then get back into your B7 after its brakes have been checked out. [:D]
STomHacks
07-27-2020, 08:31 AM
Ahah thank you for this advise ^^
My brakes seem good, everything looks fine but I don't know which brand is on it.
Maybe the DOT4 fluid is old ? I have only had the car for 4 months
ptfuzi
07-27-2020, 08:39 AM
You can replace the pads for a better biting ones
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STomHacks
07-27-2020, 09:03 AM
Do you have brands recommendations ?
Kevin C
07-27-2020, 09:03 AM
Ahah thank you for this advise ^^
My brakes seem good, everything looks fine but I don't know which brand is on it.
Maybe the DOT4 fluid is old ? I have only had the car for 4 months
Fresh brake fluid is never a bad call and often will get you a noticeably better pedal feel. Old fluid can cause bad things to happen.
https://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/681889-Mystery-Green-Brake-Fluid#:~:text=Short%20story...%20the%20green,GJW%2 0(4.11%20final%20drive).
beefski
07-27-2020, 09:25 AM
Do a full fluid flush and bleed, and you can add stainless lines front and rear. These two things will improve breaking tremendously. Use DOT 4 fluid. I did the SS lines in an old A6 Avant a while back and it stopped on a dime and gave change. As far as rotors & pads, I went with Raybestos, the Element 3 coated rotors and corresponding pads. Check out RockAuto or Amazon for the parts.
hammond
07-27-2020, 09:39 AM
first of all, make sure your vaccum pump has no leaks at the nipple due to dry rotten oring. I had soft breaks in the morning because of it last year. Zimmerman rotors are priced good and good quality ones.
Bamared
07-27-2020, 12:18 PM
Funny to see this as I just ordered front disc’s. Zimmermans and yes, price was not bad for drilled rotors.
Any tips as this will be the first time doing brakes on an Audi avant.
pimpbot
07-27-2020, 09:56 PM
Do you have brands recommendations ?
I bought the Akebono ceramic brake pads for my B7 2.0t wagon. They bite nice and hard, but with good modulation.
I put Bosch ceramic pads on my wife's Corolla, and that was a night and day improvement, and dirt cheap.
I bought drilled rotors once, and they were actually worse at the bite than regular rotors. My brakes were also noticeably noisier and less smooth feeling. Sounded a bit like a fork in a blender. I was not impressed. I would say unless you're really having issues with overheating your brakes, stick to regular rotors. Check your rotor's thickness. If they are still within spec, and are worn smooth (not work with grooves), I'd just go ahead and keep running them.
I looked into a big brake upgrade. The hot ticket seems to be brake calipers from a Toureag. There's a Benz rotor that mates up with them, or something. I ended up not doing the upgrade because the stock brakes were just fine, and I still wanted to be able to fit my 17" rims with snow tires. I'm not sure the Toureag brake calipers would fit under 17" rims.
Bamared
07-27-2020, 10:28 PM
I agree with what your saying. I have a gt350 with huge brakes and understand the noise and issues.
When I got the Audi, it had new rear disk’s drilled already and fronts were old and worn passed service limits. So this is why I wanted them to match. If they suck and feel like crap I’ll just swap to new smooth ones lol.
Any idea how the piston goes back into the caliper, screw in or just push in? Also, remember the tools I need? I only as as I’m in Poland away from my normal USA garage.
Jeevan
07-27-2020, 10:30 PM
I bought the Akebono ceramic brake pads for my B7 2.0t wagon. They bite nice and hard, but with good modulation.
I put Bosch ceramic pads on my wife's Corolla, and that was a night and day improvement, and dirt cheap.
I bought drilled rotors once, and they were actually worse at the bite than regular rotors. My brakes were also noticeably noisier and less smooth feeling. Sounded a bit like a fork in a blender. I was not impressed. I would say unless you're really having issues with overheating your brakes, stick to regular rotors. Check your rotor's thickness. If they are still within spec, and are worn smooth (not work with grooves), I'd just go ahead and keep running them.
I looked into a big brake upgrade. The hot ticket seems to be brake calipers from a Toureag. There's a Benz rotor that mates up with them, or something. I ended up not doing the upgrade because the stock brakes were just fine, and I still wanted to be able to fit my 17" rims with snow tires. I'm not sure the Toureag brake calipers would fit under 17" rims.
drilled ones have their own drawbacks when they get really hot. I dont think this matter for city driving conditions. I prefer the smooth factory style though.
Ceramic pads are always the best option for quiet breaking.
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oVeRdOsE
07-28-2020, 03:14 AM
B7 got good brakes.
you can change the carrier bracket alone to run bigger S4 rotors and keep the OEM caliper.
but my fav OEM setup is : plain powerstop rotor, Hawk HPS pads, fresh DOT4.
hawks got a very nice initial grip and a average under heat grip, still better than oem.
STomHacks
07-28-2020, 07:36 AM
Thanks guys for all your replies. My rotors look really good. Maybe I can change the pads and maybe the DOT4. Because my brakes squeak when I push my pedal. I'm a little afraid to change the dot4 on my own. Do you have a nice tutorial ?
I have VCDS also.
Jayz691
07-28-2020, 07:43 AM
Thanks guys for all your replies. My rotors look really good. Maybe I can change the pads and maybe the DOT4. Because my brakes squeak when I push my pedal. I'm a little afraid to change the dot4 on my own. Do you have a nice tutorial ?
I have VCDS also.When you install your pads, clean and lube guide pins. Can also get a stiffening kit from tyrolsport, for less movement. Some shitty ceramics squeak when braking. Far as bleeding/flushing, get yourself a power bleeder, makes things so much easier, and faster.[emoji106]
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vce1232000
07-28-2020, 11:49 AM
[wrench] some hawk [race] non ceramic brake pads & some ss lines. It will be the best bang for the buck without breaking the bank [;)]
STomHacks
07-28-2020, 01:03 PM
[wrench] some hawk [race] non ceramic brake pads & some ss lines. It will be the best bang for the buck without breaking the bank [;)]
I checked for Akebono front pads it's only 85 CAD $ without shipping cost for my B7 ;)
a4darkness
07-28-2020, 01:04 PM
The B7 brakes can be very effective when set up properly.
I'm running Hawk 5.0 pads and slotted Brembo rotors up front, Pagid pads and Zimmerman flat faced rotors rear + Dot 4 fluid.
Always a good idea to change rotors with pads, especially when upgrading pads.
vce1232000
07-28-2020, 01:30 PM
I checked for Akebono front pads it's only 85 CAD $ without shipping cost for my B7 ;)
I think Akebono only offers ceramic material pads[confused]. I prefer the [race] of semi metallic pads. Imo they have a [up] bite. But they have more brake dust as a trade off. But I dont mind that as I [drive] like azzhole sometimes & need that stopping power.....lol
vce1232000
07-28-2020, 01:32 PM
The B7 brakes can be very effective when set up properly.
I'm running Hawk 5.0 pads
Those pads have AWESOME [race] [up]