Ash Tray Delete with Wireless Charging - Now for LARGE phones!

[morph2k4]

Hey folks, sorry for the long wait. My 3D printer broke down and life got busy, so I had to set this project down for awhile. I'm happy to say that the fit for this model is excellent, and the finish on the product from shape ways is shockingly good. This is the basic versatile plastic material. Apparently the 3D printer they make these on costs a half a million dollars, give or take.

https://i.imgur.com/PbCNnB8h.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/XPesZaph.jpg

With this change, we have 160mm x 86mm x 15mm to work with. This should fit pretty much any modern phone inside a case.

The model is available for purchase HERE (https://www.shapeways.com/product/DN4ACCZNZ/audi-b8-ashtray-delete-for-larger-phones-wireless)

The original guide for installation and setup can be found HERE (https://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/847410-Ash-Tray-Delete-with-FAST-Wireless-Charging-FULL-GUIDE-Now-available-for-purchase)

[serafik]

Awesome mod! I just need to talk myself into being able to do it :P

[morph2k4]

Awesome mod! I just need to talk myself into being able to do it :P

You can do it! Seriously though, the whole process is easier than it looks. I've done the install a bunch of times now, but the whole thing can probably be done in 30 minutes without prior experience. If you have any specific questions that might help you get comfortable, let me know!

[hilmar2k]

Is the fitment on this one better than your original?

[wrow]

Will this fit a B8.5?

[thejohnny5]

Any pics of this installed?


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[morph2k4]

Is the fitment on this one better than your original?

There are some very minor tweaks. What I was really talking about was the expansion area. That took a few iterations to get a clean fit.



Will this fit a B8.5?

Yes! My car is a B8.5 actually.



Any pics of this installed?

Just added one. Doesn't look so good at night with a flash. I'll add a better picture with natural light tomorrow.

[serafik]

Do you think the premium is worth the price difference over natural? The end product looks pretty damn OEM.

[Nor_Cal_Driver]

Nice product for sure.

Is the pic from an A4?

[morph2k4]

Do you think the premium is worth the price difference over natural? The end product looks pretty damn OEM.

Thanks for the compliment! My guess is no, but I've never seen the premium finish in person. Shapeways shows some comparisons HERE (https://www.shapeways.com/blog/archives/35929-questions-answered-premium-strong-flexible-nylon-plastic.html). It will probably match the stock trim better than the natural version, but hitting the natural with some plastidip or some paint is probably your best bet if you really want it to match. I remember reading on here that someone found a paint that matches the black of the trim perfectly, but I don't have a link handy.



Nice product for sure. Is the pic from an A4?

2016 S4. To my understanding, it should fit any B8/B8.5 A4/S4. I also suspect it will fit the same generation S5s, but not sure about that.


I do actually have two "failed" iterations with minor defects that I'd be happy to ship for free to someone willing to test fit in a different model car that may have the same ash tray part. An S5, or any non A4/S4 that uses the same assembly. One of the prints is a bit too tight of a fit, so I had to shave some material off. I did use it in my car for a week with no major problems though. The other one has a ~1mm gap between the top of the box part and the bottom of the climate control assembly. Hit me up if you're interested in either of those.

[AFR1485]

Can I have this item printed with my own 3D printer?

[morph2k4]

Can I have this item printed with my own 3D printer?

I'll probably post the STL publicly at some point, but not just yet.

[rtmeikle]

This is so cool. I just ordered the tray. Hopefully my S9+ will fit in it!

Thanks!

[hilmar2k]

This is so cool. I just ordered the tray. Hopefully my S9+ will fit in it!

Thanks!

Be sure to report back with your review.

[morph2k4]

This is so cool. I just ordered the tray. Hopefully my S9+ will fit in it!

Nice! Hit me up if you have any questions or need any help with the install. An S9+ should fit with plenty of space.

[morph2k4]

Anyone with an S5 want a "seconds" unit for free to test fitment? Or any other car that seems to have the same ash tray assembly other than an b8/8.5 a4/s4?

[Nick Fury]

Anyone with an S5 want a "seconds" unit for free to test fitment? Or any other car that seems to have the same ash tray assembly other than an b8/8.5 a4/s4?

B8 S5 here!

[wrxkyle]

i'd love one for my s4 to see if it's something i'd rock if you some defect/seconds

[serafik]

Just ordered the larger version for my b8.5 s4! wish me luck mates.

[morph2k4]

Just ordered the larger version for my b8.5 s4! wish me luck mates.

Did you get your hands on it? How if so, have you taken a stab at installing yet?

[serafik]

Just got it this weekend! I'll probably take a shot at it sometime this week..

[Nor_Cal_Driver]

This is tempting.

[belgaonkar]

I've got a B8 S5 and a B8.5 A5 if you need help with prototyping. I've also got a hobbyist 3D printer and could make some adjustments if needed!

[wes8398]

This is super cool! Interested to hear some feedback and see some pictures of it installed.

[KAMP]

This is tempting.

X2

[codeboarder]

Does the sliding cover for the ashtray area stay or does that get removed with the ashtray? It was hard to tell from the pictures.

[serafik]

Does the sliding cover for the ashtray area stay or does that get removed with the ashtray? It was hard to tell from the pictures.

This is a good question! It'd be cool if the slider could stay...

[morph2k4]

Does the sliding cover for the ashtray area stay or does that get removed with the ashtray? It was hard to tell from the pictures.

Unfortunately no, the cover is quite large and also part of the stock ashtray assembly. There's no way that would work without lots of cutting and modification. Even at that point, I'm not sure it would be possible.



I've got a B8 S5 and a B8.5 A5 if you need help with prototyping. I've also got a hobbyist 3D printer and could make some adjustments if needed!

Appreciate the offer, but I think I'm set with this design at this point.

[mrpeterparker]

Is there an updated link for the anti slip mat? Since the nice honeycomb one is DC’d now.

[morph2k4]

Is there an updated link for the anti slip mat? Since the nice honeycomb one is DC’d now.

Bummer, I really like the one I used. I suspect turnover on specific models of those things will be high.

At a glance, here are a couple of amazon links for stuff that looks like it would work well (high friction anti stick, reduced contact surface area)

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=cell+phone+anti+slip&page=11&qid=1578260310&ref=sr_pg_11
https://www.amazon.com/Mate2GO-Dashboard-Non-Slip-Sticky-Sunglasses/dp/B07ZCN5YP8/ref=sr_1_61?keywords=cell+phone+anti+slip&qid=1578260261&sr=8-61
https://www.amazon.com/FH-Group-FH3011PURPLE-Anti-slip-Smartphones/dp/B01MS61GGS/ref=sr_1_154?keywords=cell%2Bphone%2Banti%2Bslip&qid=1578260310&sr=8-154&th=1

[mrpeterparker]

just ordered one . is it really going to take a month to arrive?

[mrpeterparker]

Just a heads up - I did this mod/install and it works great, really clean look/install.

I did do the "cheaper" option from shapeways and not the premium finish as I felt it was going to be covered up by the anti slip mat anyways.

It's worth noting that you will be snipping the connector from your OEM cig lighter!

[150kS4]

Just a heads up - I did this mod/install and it works great, really clean look/install.

I did do the "cheaper" option from shapeways and not the premium finish as I felt it was going to be covered up by the anti slip mat anyways.

It's worth noting that you will be snipping the connector from your OEM cig lighter!

Awesome, any photos of it installed? Curious about the "cheaper" finish
I'm thinking of putting it in, just not sure if it will fit my iPhone 10 max

[Ashtonts]

Awesome, any photos of it installed? Curious about the "cheaper" finish
I'm thinking of putting it in, just not sure if it will fit my iPhone 10 max

Double checked the dimensions listed in the OP, and it should fit a 10/11 max, even in a case. If your case is bulky, you may be pushing it though.


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[mrpeterparker]

Awesome, any photos of it installed? Curious about the "cheaper" finish
I'm thinking of putting it in, just not sure if it will fit my iPhone 10 max

https://i.imgur.com/MNt4abW.jpg

[morph2k4]

Awesome! I'm glad someone finally replied back with success.


Awesome, any photos of it installed? Curious about the "cheaper" finish
I'm thinking of putting it in, just not sure if it will fit my iPhone 10 max

The photos at the top that I posted are actually in the cheaper finish as well. I have not seen the premium finish in person.

[mrpeterparker]

Yeah - I hate it people have success and good results but don’t respond back for other people to know - felt the response was deserved. Good or bad.

[150kS4]

https://i.imgur.com/MNt4abW.jpg

that looks great, thanks for the photo.
Might just have to order one myself

[cadguy77]

Will this fit RHD B8.5 S5?

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[Nor_Cal_Driver]

I’m confused. Where is the seam?

[ericbull]

OP’s original honeycomb non-slip mat is available on eBay!


https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F26 4633938305

Just bought all of the components, the oversized version, and can’t wait to do this. Too bad it takes so long for them to print it up and ship!


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Eric | Philadelphia, PA
'11 S5 Coupe 4.2q 6MT

[Ashtonts]

OP’s original honeycomb non-slip mat is available on eBay!


https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F26 4633938305

Just bought all of the components, the oversized version, and can’t wait to do this. Too bad it takes so long for them to print it up and ship!


Thanks for the link. Just scooped one of those while they're in stock lol. Haven't bought the rest of the stuff yet, but I'll get around to it eventually lol

[morph2k4]

Will this fit RHD B8.5 S5?

No idea, but I suspect it would. I believe the S5 uses the same ashtray assembly, and it looks semetrical so I'd assume the part is the same RHD. No way to be sure though. I sent a test print out to a guy on here with an S5 to test the fit and he ghosted me :(



I’m confused. Where is the seam?

Seam?



OP’s original honeycomb non-slip mat is available on eBay!

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F26 4633938305

Awesome! This mat really is better. I'd grab one when you can. Post up when you get the install done, or reach out if you need any help.

[Iceman502]

That's awesome, serious marks for some spot-on measurements.

Wanna do the cupholders now too, so they can both fit regular sized drinks????

[ericbull]

No idea, but I suspect it would. I believe the S5 uses the same ashtray assembly, and it looks semetrical so I'd assume the part is the same RHD. No way to be sure though. I sent a test print out to a guy on here with an S5 to test the fit and he ghosted me :(


Awesome! This mat really is better. I'd grab one when you can. Post up when you get the install done, or reach out if you need any help.

Absolutely will do. I’m putting it in an S5 so I’ll be happy to confirm fitment for you. Guess I should have reached out to see if you still have any prototypes available.


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Eric | Philadelphia, PA
'11 S5 Coupe 4.2q 6MT

[morph2k4]

That's awesome, serious marks for some spot-on measurements.

Wanna do the cupholders now too, so they can both fit regular sized drinks????

Thanks! Unfortunately the cup holders probably aren't feasible for 3d printing. The amount of material is much greater, so the cost would be enormous. The other issue is that I'd need to have my entire center console out for many days prototyping fitment, which isn't practical.

Man it would be nice to fit something other than a redbull though :D



Absolutely will do. I’m putting it in an S5 so I’ll be happy to confirm fitment for you. Guess I should have reached out to see if you still have any prototypes available.

Sorry about that, though the production versions are much nicer! Definitely let us know about the S5. I'm 95% sure it will be fine.

[ericbull]

Sorry about that, though the production versions are much nicer! Definitely let us know about the S5. I'm 95% sure it will be fine.

Pleased to confirm fitment of the XL production piece in the B8/8.5 A/S/RS5 platform.

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Eric | Philadelphia, PA
'11 S5 Coupe 4.2q 6MT

[cadguy77]

Pleased to confirm fitment of the XL production piece in the B8/8.5 A/S/RS5 platform.

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Eric | Philadelphia, PA
'11 S5 Coupe 4.2q 6MTLooking sweet

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[Chatchie]

How bad do they suck to install? You have to remove the console right?

[morph2k4]

How bad do they suck to install? You have to remove the console right?

It's actually quite easy. You only need to remove the climate panel (easy with pry tools) and the panel surrounding the shifter (no tools required). Then you have access to remove the ash tray assembly and replace it. There is a link to the guide in the original post. This can be done in about 5 minutes with experience, and probably about 20 for a first time. The hardest part is the wiring, which is also not hard.

[akim14]

I would be interested into printing it myself for B8.5, already have one solution, but it just does not look this good :( are you willing to share 3d file only? thanks

[19birel]

What have you guys been using for the electronic side of things? I see ECS Tuning has a retrofit kit from Inbay, but I also have considered just buying an wireless charger and using the parts from it to retrofit into the car. Curious as to what you all have been doing

[morph2k4]

I would be interested into printing it myself for B8.5, already have one solution, but it just does not look this good :( are you willing to share 3d file only? thanks

Sorry, not looking to open up the model at this time.



What have you guys been using for the electronic side of things? I see ECS Tuning has a retrofit kit from Inbay, but I also have considered just buying an wireless charger and using the parts from it to retrofit into the car. Curious as to what you all have been doing

I would definitely avoid the inbay kit. I tried it first and it is extremely slow. The full guide for this mod includes some detail about my part choices for the electronics. They've worked pretty well for me for the last year or so:

https://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/847410-Ash-Tray-Delete-with-FAST-Wireless-Charging-FULL-GUIDE-Now-available-for-purchase

[19birel]

Sorry, not looking to open up the model at this time.




I would definitely avoid the inbay kit. I tried it first and it is extremely slow. The full guide for this mod includes some detail about my part choices for the electronics. They've worked pretty well for me for the last year or so:

https://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/847410-Ash-Tray-Delete-with-FAST-Wireless-Charging-FULL-GUIDE-Now-available-for-purchase


Thanks for the info! I'll look into the setup that you chose[up]

[cadguy77]

I've got all the parts now, but waiting on shapeways to produce and deliver part. Won't get to me until June, so will update on fit into RHD B8.5 S5 then. Fingers crossed .

[blubaru]

I finished my install over the weekend, it's a little finicky with my iPhone 11, I have to have the phone centered for it to work (maybe if I had the MAX it wouldn't be an issue). I also tried the Anker wireless charger first but it ended being slightly too big and ended up going with the Chotech. I also used T-taps for the power / ground and didn't cut the harness off, would be very easy to put the ashtray back in if I wanted.

[morph2k4]

I finished my install over the weekend, it's a little finicky with my iPhone 11, I have to have the phone centered for it to work (maybe if I had the MAX it wouldn't be an issue). I also tried the Anker wireless charger first but it ended being slightly too big and ended up going with the Chotech. I also used T-taps for the power / ground and didn't cut the harness off, would be very easy to put the ashtray back in if I wanted.

That's a bummer. I've had pretty good luck with the charger, but I'm sure it depends on the phone. One thing I did that might help is I bought some adhesive backed craft foam and put it onto the back wall of the tray. You can do that all around the edge to reduce the overall size of the tray and help force the phone into a viable charging position.

[hilmar2k]

I've got all the parts now, but waiting on shapeways to produce and deliver part. Won't get to me until June, so will update on fit into RHD B8.5 S5 then. Fingers crossed .

So other than the part you don't have, you have all the parts? [:D]

[cadguy77]

So other than the part you don't have, you have all the parts? [:D][emoji1787] In a roundabouts sort of way [emoji1787]

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[cadguy77]

Finally got round to installing.

Can confirm perfect fitment in a RHD B8.5 S5.

Thanks for this brilliant mod.

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[Envy187]

This modification is great for those whose cell-phone batteries are awful, can't hold their battery life for longer than a few hours, and require to be charged often...but was there any mention as far as the maximum thickness a bulky cell-phone case has to be for the wireless charging capability to be able to penetrate said case?

I know the dimensions of the case are one thing - but if you have an OtterBox or full-body, rugged, heavy-duty case that a lot of construction and laborers use, what then? Is this wireless charger's "strength" potent enough to penetrate such case(s)?

I'd love to hear anyone who has a case along those lines to chime in, if applicable.

Please & thank you!

[codeboarder]

Just got my parts for my wireless charging solution. Still waiting on my non-slip mat from eBay. Gonna start with the wireless charging from inBay and modify if that doesn't work out well.
https://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/medium/Wireless.jpg (https://www.audizine.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=96211&title=wireless-charging-parts-for-audi-s4-b8-5&cat=500)

[codeboarder]

Non-slip mat arrived so I installed this tonight. Works like a charm!
https://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/thumbs/9FinalProduct.jpg (https://www.audizine.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=96221&title=wireless-charger-installed-21&cat=500)

[Clintster]

Non-slip mat arrived so I installed this tonight. Works like a charm!
https://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/thumbs/9FinalProduct.jpg (https://www.audizine.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=96221&title=wireless-charger-installed-21&cat=500)

I really like that anti slip mat you are using, which one is it?

[Glacier_S4]

Great mod

[codeboarder]

I really like that anti slip mat you are using, which one is it?
Super sorry, I didn't see that you posted. It is still available on eBay here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Anti-Slip-Dashboard-Mat-Sticky-Pad-Holder-for-Mobile-Phone-GPS-Holder/202362585984?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

[elpeterson]

Are there any plans to make the model available like you initially stated? I'd rather have this done on the resin printers I have available to me and getting the model manipulated to better handle the wireless strategy I have setup would be ideal. I don't mind paying a fee to license it for a single personal print if you'd like me to contact you directly.

[Dravas]

Also interested in the model, and would certainly compensate you for the engineering/time you put into it.
It would be for personal use on my car to be clear.
Cheers

[Ashtonts]

Looks like this may be too small to fit an iPhone 12 Pro Max. Can anyone confirm? Based on dimensions it may just barely clear without a case but almost certainly won’t fit in a case.

[blubaru]

I have the 12 pro max with a slim case and it fits... barely. It’s not charging however so I will probably have to readjust the coil on the bottom. I thought about buying the new MagSafe charger and some how incorporating that instead but until Apple lets third party companies charge at full speed it’s not worth it. We are capped at 7.5W which is pointless.

[Skitzo_Phrenik]

I agree with Dravas and Elpeterson, would be very interested in the design to print myself and more than willing to pay a fee.

[codeboarder]

Would like to buy the design as well. I have one for wireless charging and I drilled a hole in it so I could put my valvesonic exhaust button on it. I was also thinking about modifying the design to mount the p3 guage display on it as well instead of in the air vent. 219021

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[2013S4]

I received mine this morning and just finished installing it (B8.5). Works great, no issues.

The part looks great, like OEM. My surrounding dash parts a little darker black than this part, but I didn't paint it.

Great product.

[mrpeterparker]

has anyone ever redesigned this to have a mold for the MagSafe charger to fit into?

[RMC]

Curious about this also? Any insight @morph2k4

[blubaru]

If you have a Max size phone I think the tray is too small to be useful. I have a very thin case and it’s difficult to get the phone back out of the tray. My friends phone in a larger case got stuck in it lol. With almost no room to spare it might be tricky to get the mag safe orientation correct for everyone’s phone, since cases are different shape and size. Also if you have a rubber mat on it the magnetic connection may not work or be very weak as well.

I stopped using it for my phone once I got a Max, and the charging was too slow to be useful honestly. I have a PD fast car charger that is plugged into the center armrest that makes more sense to use on short to medium trips. I do like the look of the tray but overall it has been pretty pointless for me.

[DarkoNova]

This looks awesome, but my phone is 165mm tall.

Is there any way to make this bigger or is it maxed out?

[cadguy77]

After over 2 years of faultless operation I've now upgraded my phone which requires 15w wireless charging. The old choetech wireless pad is 10w and charges my new phone at a slower speed.

So are there any recommendations for a 15w wireless pad that would be compatible with this setup?

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[aztechian]

I upgraded to an iPhone 15 pro, and was troubleshooting why it wouldn’t charge. I had bought the Apple MagSafe charger and mounted below the tray.
Turns out, the camera bump is so severe on the 14/15 that the phone doesn’t sit flat enough to be in range of the charger [emoji24]

So I’m improvising. Move the charger on top. The Apple MagSafe is 5mm thick, which still leaves a good amount of depth in the tray. I bought some 5mm Eva costume foam for $10 and made a cutout of the charger. There’s just enough gap to run the wire in the side clip. (I previously cut out the corner for the USB plug of my RSNav, that’s the female USB in the picture).
I’m currently painting the foam with black plastidip to match. Will update when complete.
I plan on covering the whole tray with a 1 mm rubber mat. The MagSafe still works through that. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231111/e36fa0b6719280c34ed7d320992c4042.jpg
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[aztechian]

Update.
No matter what I tried with the silicone mat, I couldn’t get the phone to charge through it (even though I tested this when dry fitting things [emoji37])
So I gave four coats of plastidip and left it “plain”. It’s not terrible, but not what I had in mind. It also actually charges now, so there’s that[emoji12]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231111/d928c983f466401dc3c50bb28d1191ee.jpg
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[CPar02]

Gotta bring up an old thread shapeways went out of business last month and part cannot be ordered anymore. Anyone got any recommendations? OP can I purchase from another website?

[dgibbs]

ah man, that's a bummer! They did good work.

[hodan]

Agreed. This thread got revived just in time for the website to go out of business. I’m totally down if the inventor wanted to sell the design for one print…

[MightyMouse75]

Same. I'm really hoping to buy one, or pay a 1 time license fee for the .STL.

[MightyMouse75]

He was last online 11/12/2024 - So recently, but not responding to any messages, unfortunately.. :(

I'd really like to get 2 of these, or pay for an STL file.. he should really put the .stl on Etsy or some other site that allows you to sell copies of the file.. For $20.00 or so each download he'd make a pretty decent amount, I think.

[Icemix]

I've sent him a private message. If no response, I guess I'll get to designing one myself