AUDI - Least Reliable German?

[PopTart]

Is Audi the least reliable German brand? I understand that every brand has their issues. However, Audi/VW problems seem to be prevalent. They had a major recall in 2009 over their DSG transmission. Several B8 S4 owners were affected, but didn't qualify for the recall. The (2.0T) used in several Audi models, has a Timing Chain class action. Then there's the whole VW diesel issue. A major recall, lawsuits, & scandal within a short timeframe. I'm losing confidence in the Audi/VW brand.

[QQQQuattro]

Over-engineering has its ups and downs. You can buy a Honda that never breaks down, but it drives like a....well, a Honda! Nothing bad with that, but driving VW/Audi is unique to say for sure!


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[jimrobbington]

Is there a B8 chatterbox?

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[bhvrdr]

The 2.0t has a hell of alot more than timing chain issues. That was just one of the latest class action on that engine. Theres also one for the pistons and turbos.

Every German car company has certain years of certain models to avoid. The 3.0t engine audis are probably the most reliable ive seen in a long time.

[theweebabyseamus]

BMW

[jimrobbington]

BMWMy buddy just had his 335 charge pipe explode from boost pressure on a simple stage 1 tune.

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[nick1980]

Honda doesn't have the reliability you use to,
I worked at the warehouse for years and saw it change over time.
Alot of oil consumption issues
Transmission
Recalls etc etc
Everyone's going cheaper not just one manufacturer

[s4buckeye]

Over-engineering has its ups and downs. You can buy a Honda that never breaks down, but it drives like a....well, a Honda! Nothing bad with that, but driving VW/Audi is unique to say for sure!


https://www.topgear.com/car-news/hot-hatch/heres-what-seven-months-living-honda-civic-type-r?amp



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[TheAsset]

Do I want to own an Audi outside of warranty....hell no.

[AudiS4SD]

German cars are built to last when following the maintenance schedule.

Japanese cars are built to last for those that don't follow the maintenance schedule.

[PopTart]

My buddy just had his 335 charge pipe explode from boost pressure on a simple stage 1 tune.

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What year is his BMW 335i? The N55 motor is more reliable than the N54 motor.

[Whitee]

Do I want to own an Audi outside of warranty....hell no.

I agree, more and more there seems to be issue after issue with these cars. I hate it when it breaks but love it so much when it works I can’t give it up.


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[Whitee]

German cars are built to last when following the maintenance schedule.

Japanese cars are built to last for those that don't follow the maintenance schedule.

Is the thermostat and water pump part of the maintenance schedule? No...


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[jimrobbington]

What year is his BMW 335i? The N55 motor is more reliable than the N54 motor.It is an N55 F30. The OEM charge pipe is plastic...

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[jimrobbington]

Is the thermostat and water pump part of the maintenance schedule? No...


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkLol I also don't agree with 10k oil change intervals...

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[theweebabyseamus]

My buddy just had his 335 charge pipe explode from boost pressure on a simple stage 1 tune.

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Common issue, believe it or not.

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What year is his BMW 335i? The N55 motor is more reliable than the N54 motor.

The engine itself is more stout (N54), everything bolted to it is less reliable.

[Midnight_Rider]

I think it depends on the model. But the least reliable German car, imo, are some models of Mercedes. They tend to have the least reliable cars.

Audi tend to have the most reliable, but I think this all depends on the model. I know Mercedes CLA250 is garbage. But their E class is great, just like BMW X1 is garbage, but their 2 and 3 series as well as X series are reliable.

My buddy had the last gen BMW 335, and that thing blew a water tank or something like that. Depends on the year and car model. Like I know my crank pulley is going to die soon on my S4.

The most reliable cars I had were Japanese cars.

[jimrobbington]

Common issue, believe it or not.

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The engine itself is more stout (N54), everything bolted to it is less reliable.Yeah, it was a recommended upgrade, but he apparently took too long to heed the warnings.

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[jimrobbington]

I think it depends on the model. But the least reliable German car, imo, are some models of Mercedes. They tend to have the least reliable cars.

Audi tend to have the most reliable, but I think this all depends on the model. I know Mercedes CLA250 is garbage. But their E class is great, just like BMW X1 is garbage, but their 2 and 3 series as well as X series are reliable.

My buddy had the last gen BMW 335, and that thing blew a water tank or something like that. Depends on the year and car model. Like I know my crank pulley is going to die soon on my S4.

The most reliable cars I had were Japanese cars.I literally ordered a crank pulley tonight. About to hit 75k and don't want it to shit on me.

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[PopTart]

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[Midnight_Rider]

I literally ordered a crank pulley tonight. About to hit 75k and don't want it to shit on me.

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Apparently, they go soon. From what I've been reading, they start having play in them. Sort of important thing to not fix right away.

[Midnight_Rider]

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I complain about how expensive the oil change is. I don't think that makes it unreliable car.

[fstr n u]

I've owned plenty of vehicles...the least reliable were the Dodge/SRT and other domestics. I drove an E46 BMW M3 6MT for awhile and only had an issue with the ignition coil sleeves cracking under warranty. I've owned 4 Audis and had barely a lick of issues. (2006-2016). We just purchased a 2014 Porsche Cayenne Turbo as i've seen they are pretty darn reliable for the performance. Maintain your vehicle and repair what isn't working. Cars are a depreciating item that is what it is. Find something you can have fun driving and know there are inherent costs to ownership.

I loved my B8 S5 V8 6MT with FI non-res exhaust, but wanted more power so purchased a 2015 B8.5 S4 6MT that i will modify to stage 2.5. After this it will be a Porsche 911 Turbo variant and see where i end up. The Japanese don't make anything that really competes with this segment yet (awd, 6mt, etc).

Joys of cars eh?

Yes i'm a canuck.

[Jamen]

I drive 160 miles a day on the 5 fwy for the last 8 years. I have never seen an Audi on the side of the road but I see BMW and Mercedes nearly every day

[fstr n u]

Like Jamen, in the city where i live, the most unreliable German cars go in this order:
1. BMW
2. Mercedes
3. Audi
4. Porsche

I am connected to the dealers, tuners, owners and forums locally. Our BMW dealership is inundated wiht broken down/faulty BMW's old and new. I've owned a couple and there are only a few BMW variants known to be less problematic than others...generally expect multiple service/warranty visits in your ownership with BMW.

Mercedes have had a weird run with some models reliable and others worse than domestics in terms of reliability. Either way without a stick, they can continue selling to the geriatric population who can't wrangle a clutch....so disappointed with Mercedes. I would love to see AMG MT variants but their owner base is overweight, wealthy, lazy and unmotivated to do more than necessary. Sorry no love for Merc products outside of their AMG engines.

Audi....from the mid 2000's they have made huge strides in reliability, though not quite at the level of Toyota/Honda (generally) they are producing much better vehicles than in the past. Compare an Audi awd setup to a BMW Xdrive and you'll understand better the over engineering that goes into an Audi product. I could go on...but as a member mentioned above, maintain your Audi per service schedule and do oil changes more than once a year and you'll (for the most part) be laughing at how reliable and fun your Audi is.

[wootwoot]

My B7 A4 2.0t has been bulletproof so I don't know what you're reading op. I've been hoping it would break so I can justify upgradding to an S4 but I drive the crap out of it with only basic maintenance and it continues to drive well. I suggest reading more on the forum before throwing out baseless claims.

Maybe even pick up a consumer reports, Audi is consistently tanked high for reliability.

[PopTart]

My B7 A4 2.0t has been bulletproof so I don't know what you're reading op. I've been hoping it would break so I can justify upgradding to an S4 but I drive the crap out of it with only basic maintenance and it continues to drive well. I suggest reading more on the forum before throwing out baseless claims.

Maybe even pick up a consumer reports, Audi is consistently tanked high for reliability.

They weren't baseless claims. The Class Action Lawsuit regarding the timing chain is common knowledge. Audi's DSG failures are also common knowledge. And literally everyone knows about Diesel-gate.

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=8378724

https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2018/vw-timing-chain-class-action-lawsuit.shtml

[doughboy17]

I doubt it. I believe JD Power would say they are the 2nd most reliable brand behind Porsche.

[3g_bishi]

Dude, BMW have had the worse engines ever made, they all freakin need valve stem seals and all smoke, they also all leak oil

Audis at hit or miss.it depends on maintenance. If it was serviced often in its early years then it will last with no issues. But people buy there cars new and dump them when they get 100k miles. There for the second owner has all the mess ups because first owner never did anything to them.

Porches is audi; company same parts. Mercedes is just “ok”

American cars are junk

Nissan is ehh

Toyota and Honda are the best

But Audi’s drive like...well an Audi and it’s super fun to drive my rs7.


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[PopTart]

Dude, BMW have had the worse engines ever made, they all freakin need valve stem seals and all smoke, they also all leak oil

Audis at hit or miss.it depends on maintenance. If it was serviced often in its early years then it will last with no issues. But people buy there cars new and dump them when they get 100k miles. There for the second owner has all the mess ups because first owner never did anything to them.

Porches is audi; company same parts. Mercedes is just “ok”

American cars are junk

Nissan is ehh

Toyota and Honda are the best

But Audi’s drive like...well an Audi and it’s super fun to drive my rs7.


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I agree with this ^ At the end of the day, it depends which specific year/make/model we're discussing. The previous owner's maintenance is crucial.

[YSPAIK]

I came from an 8th gen Honda Accord coupe before my s4 and that thing was a tank. Drove it to 160k with just normal maintenance. Didn’t have to replace anything. Even with the v6 and mods, it wasn’t really sporty or fun to drive,so I never really pushed it. Way different than the Audi experience. Honestly, you have to pay to play - I think there is a trade off to having a sportier car. If you are pushing components closer to their limits (designs), it most likely has more frequent (and costly) maintenance and maybe replacements.

I think it’s like professional athletes. An athletes pushes themselves to the limit. They are trained for this and are the fittest people in the world, but are more likely to get injured than normal people because of what they do. I think performance oriented cars are the same.


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[brs2c]

BMW is generally the worst. BUT as many have stated- reliability very model specific. With heavy modding- all bets are off on all cars.


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[850tgul]

Absolutely depends on the specific engine/drivetrain. Every brand has hits and misses. My 2001 B5 S4 was one of the least reliable cars that I have ever owned, my 2013 B8.5 S4 is one of the most reliable. It’s not even like there are certain eras when a manufacturer is making reliable cars, there are plenty of examples when the same company has put out bulletproof motors and crap motors at the same time. Think 3.0T and 2.0T.
I also try to stick to brand’s tried and true formula and have had fairly good luck with that. E.g. all of the BMWs I have ever owned all had NA inline 6s and all were very reliable. Saab 2.0 turbos, same thing. Not a guarantee of reliability but all in all I feel like you are better off going with the engine architecture that has been honed by decades of evolution. Counter point is the 3.0T which came out of no where and is a gem.
Thing is the Germans like to innovate as others have said so they often push the envelope.

[wootwoot]

They weren't baseless claims. The Class Action Lawsuit regarding the timing chain is common knowledge. Audi's DSG failures are also common knowledge. And literally everyone knows about Diesel-gate.

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=8378724

https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2018/vw-timing-chain-class-action-lawsuit.shtml

Take a look at some of the issues with Honda and you'll find similar problems.

Automatic transmission failures have been a huge problem for them https://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/08/honda-transmission-problems-seem-to-persist/

and more recently oil dilution problems on many popular models: http://www.classlawdc.com/2018/04/13/honda-cr-v-and-civic-oil-dilution-class-action-investigation/

All I'm trying to say is that you can cherry pick issues for any car manufacturer. Generally speaking newer Audis rate as high as Honda for reliability but you have to do the research. The "least reliable German" claim is indeed baseless.

[Thurston]

in my experience, Mercedes and BMW are gigantic p.o.s. that are absolutely unreliable (the crank hub issue w/ the latest m3(4) albeit rare is an example of a catastrophic issue that shouldn't be a catastrophic issue. Maybe the japanese auto industry has finally forced them to enter in to a reliable reality and maybe they have because my B8 s4 was VERY RELIABLE. I also have owned a lexus that i absolutely thrashed and it was utterly bulletproof (is 300)

[AudiS4SD]

German cars are built to last when following the maintenance schedule.

Japanese cars are built to last for those that don't follow the maintenance schedule.


Is the thermostat and water pump part of the maintenance schedule? No...


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I mentioned my previous quote because I feel like one reason German cars (and performance cars in general) get a bad reputation on reliability is because of their heritage. Putting reliability aside for a moment, German cars are known for their performance, engineering, and dedication from the employees/techs. As a result, the owners (drivers) think these cars are bulletproof, and as a result, treat the vehicle as such--driving the cars aggressively, WOT frequently, track, and disregarding some maintenance.

The owners are then surprised when their cars have a bunch of issues and make sure the companies know about it, and this is relayed to Consumer Reports, JD Power, etc.

Take Ford, for example. Would everyone say the same thing? No, because their reputation as long as I can remember has pretty much always been "Found On Road Dead" or "Fix Or Repair Daily". This reputation is now pretty much everywhere, so there is no surprise when Ford vehicles have issues despite any positive strides in reliability. Same thing with FCA. We know their reliability is junk, but people buy their cars anyway for the muscle car experience a la Hellcat. The inverse is true (IMO) regarding Japanese manufacturers--boring, though sometimes they have sporty-ish models (different discussion).

German cars are sort of in the middle, so many will get a hit-or-miss scenario--some will have little to no issues (towards Japanese cars) and others will have nonstop problems and be towards FCA/Ford.

This is not to say that a water pump or thermostat on our platforms would not fail under normal driving---I'm just talking in the general sense. Or, I could be way off about all this and need more coffee.

[tar]

Pretty sure audi ranks high on consumer reports for reliability.

But for sake of this forum audi is bad. sell yours op and go away every single thread you make is either in the wrong place or just fucking stupid.
Have a terrible day.

[s4buckeye]

I have had Mercedes and BMWs rides, along with many VWs/Porsche/Audis, etc. Have not found any one of them to be more or less reliable than any other.

The bashing of the Mercedes and BMW reliability on here is mostly hearsay, anecdotal and generally overstated. Audi fanboi doesn't make it true, but obviously everyone's experience will vary from car to car

[Thurston]

we are quickly on a path in which that which separates german from japanese from korean from american will be nothing but the outer shell of the vehicle.

[Nez136]

I would never buy a BMW that wasn’t an M. Every person I’ve known to own a 3 or 7 series has had multiple issues. The joke was years ago that my friends 7 series spent more time in the shop than on the road. The 3 series cars literally fall apart from the inside out. In at least 3-4 cars I’ve seen different trim pieces literally start falling apart inside the car.

Don’t know much about MB, have only ridden in a few. Drove a CLA45 amg, thing was a piece of sh*t but didn’t seem to have mechanical or cosmetic issues like bmw. My old man owned a SL550 which seemed to be pretty stout.... but you’re spending 120k at that point.

Owned a B8 A4, S4, b8.5 s4, 8v S3 and now a B9 s4. No issues with Audi thus far.

I wouldn’t own any car out of warranty these days. Unless maybe I had my old Evo 8 back. Could fix anything myself on that car.


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[SwampDonkey1987]

Pretty sure audi ranks high on consumer reports for reliability.

But for sake of this forum audi is bad. sell yours op and go away every single thread you make is either in the wrong place or just fucking stupid.
Have a terrible day.

Couldn’t agree more

[chaos2984]

This is my 4th Audi and 5th VW group car and 1 only have 1 between all of them. All the audi's Ive had were S4's so a little biased. I haven't had any issues with any of my S4's Ive owned. The only issue was with the Passat Wagon the pcv valve went and then blew out the rear main seal. But the car did have 130K on it. So wasn't to bad.

i love the brand and do no consider the diesel thing an issue. They were trying to beat emissions to sell cars not a reliability issue.
Now I might consider something else down the road. I do not like how they are building Audi's anymore starting with the B9 seems like they are getting really cheap with the quality of the build. But we will see what happens with the B9's down the road.

[hgparrish]

My buddy just had his 335 charge pipe explode from boost pressure on a simple stage 1 tune.

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How is that BMW’s fault?


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[Iwantyourcar]

I’d go Porsche, Audi, Mercedes, BMW.

My brother is a service manager for a euro shop. He’d tell me to stay away from them all. I think he’s jaded though.

[jimrobbington]

How is that BMW’s fault?


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[bhvrdr]

Who makes plastic charge pipes?

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Mines plastic in the a4. So is the entire intake manifold.

[jimrobbington]

Mines plastic in the a4. So is the entire intake manifold.I do recall my b7 a4 intake manifold being plastic. Bet your charge pipe can handle stage 1 without exploding though!

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[bhvrdr]

Hehe yeah its handling k04 fine but people do blow the intake manifolds sometimes even stock. Ive had 11 audis and 5 bmws and i much prefer working on audis. The bmw stuff that would fail was usually a major pita. Just my experience

For german cars ivecalso had 2 mercs and 4 porsches and luckily no issues with them

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[PopTart]

I’d go Porsche, Audi, Mercedes, BMW.

My brother is a service manager for a euro shop. He’d tell me to stay away from them all. I think he’s jaded though.

There's no question Porsche is the most reliable. Lexus is up there too. Any luxury/premium brand should be able to reach 100k problem-free, assuming scheduled maintenance is followed.

[bhvrdr]

There's no question Porsche is the most reliable. Lexus is up there too. Any luxury/premium brand should be able to reach 100k problem-free, assuming scheduled maintenance is followed.

Keep in mind plenty of folks have had pdk issues with their porsche and you dont want a 997.1 without a warranty as their 30k dollar engines had a way of d-chunking, bore scoring, or ims failure. A rebuilt engine runs 25 grand. Sucks. Unless its toyota or Lexus youre going to find certain models or certain parts that any car company has with higher than normal failure rates

[Jamen]

So.... this thread was started by a A4 owner... why hasn’t anyone mentioned that this is posted in the wrong place? The 3.0T engine is probably the most dependable Audi engine next the the 2010+ R8 engines (v8 and v10).

I would say complain about your 2.0 with the other 2.0 owners

[wootwoot]

I love threads like these. Someone uninformed comes in with an extreme subject line, posts no supporting evidence for their views, then they won't respond after being proven wrong. Someone please close this thread it is complete garbage.

[S4'ed]

Latest Consumer Reports overall reliability survey results by brand : Audi overall is #4, which was the same ranking as last year (2016)

Within the brand, the Q3 is the most reliable model, the A7 is the least.

#1 Toyota
Lexus
Kia
Audi
BMW
Subaru
Infinity
Buick
Honda
Hyundai
Nissan
Mazda
Porsche
Mercedes
Ford
VW
Chrysler
Chevrolet
Acura
Jeep
Tesla
Lincoln
Volvo
Dodge
Ram
GMC
#27 = Cadillac

[Thurston]

I love these kinds of subjective threads! Not being sarcastic I really do.

The ims issue for Porsche across many models and the porous block issues makes me chuckle when I see "porsche is the most reliable and lexus is up there too"

There is no comparison and nor should there be as the litte bit of objective data posted above (consumer reports) proves.

[PopTart]

Interesting they said A7 is the least reliable. It's the same powertrain as the A6. So, why'd they single out the A7? Furthermore, the 3.0T has been bulletproof.

[brs2c]

How the hell is KIA #3 most reliable!? My wife’s family bought several all total garbage with reliability. Even the plastic body panels warped in the sun.


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[KRp220]

I have had Mercedes and BMWs rides, along with many VWs/Porsche/Audis, etc. Have not found any one of them to be more or less reliable than any other.

The bashing of the Mercedes and BMW reliability on here is mostly hearsay, anecdotal and generally overstated. Audi fanboi doesn't make it true, but obviously everyone's experience will vary from car to car

spot on. not a single person has actually cited anything...

https://www.businessinsider.com/most-reliable-car-brands-according-to-jd-power-ranked-2018-2#11-mazda-14

https://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/car-brands-reliability-how-they-stack-up/

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/most-reliable-car-brands

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2018/08/29/best-and-worst-car-brands-of-2018/37633581/

each very a little bit obviously, but audi certainly does pretty well.

[doughboy17]

CR defines "reliability" and "dependability" differently. Actually, "dependability" is what most people in this thread are talking about and that is what most should be considering when referencing CR.

[Snowmonkey]

Weird how people keep referencing the dieselgate scandal. Just in case people aren't aware, that had absolutely nothing to do with reliability, that was just emissions cheating. Nothing failed, they just got caught faking emissions during testing so the dirty cars could pass as cleaner.

[Midnight_Rider]

I've owned plenty of vehicles...the least reliable were the Dodge/SRT and other domestics. I drove an E46 BMW M3 6MT for awhile and only had an issue with the ignition coil sleeves cracking under warranty. I've owned 4 Audis and had barely a lick of issues. (2006-2016). We just purchased a 2014 Porsche Cayenne Turbo as i've seen they are pretty darn reliable for the performance. Maintain your vehicle and repair what isn't working. Cars are a depreciating item that is what it is. Find something you can have fun driving and know there are inherent costs to ownership.

I loved my B8 S5 V8 6MT with FI non-res exhaust, but wanted more power so purchased a 2015 B8.5 S4 6MT that i will modify to stage 2.5. After this it will be a Porsche 911 Turbo variant and see where i end up. The Japanese don't make anything that really competes with this segment yet (awd, 6mt, etc).

Joys of cars eh?

Yes i'm a canuck.

True that. Japanese don't compete in anything competitive, but they will outrun your car. 0 to 60 in 10 seconds is better than no seconds sometimes.

Before this car, I thought about buying the Aston Martin coupe but found out they get their clutch changed out every 15k miles and it costs enormous amount of money.

I miss my Evo and S2k... So easy to fix things when it breaks.

I hate the fact that Audi S4 depreciate so badly. This is the only car that I've ever had that I won't make money off of when I sell it.

[residentgearhed]

According to consumer reports, Audi is actually the most reliable:
https://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/who-makes-the-most-reliable-cars/



For more details on reliability, go to CR.org/reliability.
Rank - Change From 2018 - Brand - Least Reliable Model - Most Reliable Model
1 ↑1 Lexus (6) IS GX
2 ↓1 Toyota (14) Tacoma Prius C
3 ↑9 Mazda (6) CX-3 MX-5 Miata
4 ↑2 Subaru (6) WRX Crosstrek
5 ↓2 Kia (8) Cadenza Sedona
6 ↑1 Infiniti (4) Q50 Q60
7 ↓3 Audi (6) A3 Q5
8 ↓3 BMW (7) X1 i3
9 N/A Mini (2) Cooper Countryman
10 — Hyundai (5) Ioniq Santa Fe XL
11 ↑2 Porsche (3) Cayenne 911
12 N/A Genesis (2) G90 G80
13 ↑6 Acura (3) MDX ILX
14 ↓3 Nissan (11) Versa Note Maxima
15 ↓6 Honda (9) Clarity Fit
16 — Volkswagen (8) Atlas Passat
17 ↓3 Mercedes-Benz (7) E-Class GLS
18 ↓3 Ford (11) Mustang Taurus
19 ↓11 Buick (5) Enclave Encore
20 ↑2 Lincoln (4) MKZ Continental
21 ↑3 Dodge (5) Journey Charger
22 ↓2 Jeep (4) Compass Renegade
23 ↓5 Chevrolet (16) Traverse Impala
24 ↓7 Chrysler (2) Pacifica 300
25 ↑1 GMC (8) Sierra 2500 HD Yukon
26 ↓1 Ram (3) 3500 2500
27 ↓6 Tesla (3) Model X Model 3
28 ↓1 Cadillac (6) ATS XTS
29 ↓6 Volvo (3) S90 XC60

[eswift]

FWIT Dieselgate was about cheating on emissions, not reliability. I don't give a shit, i wish they should sell me one of the buy back Q7 TDIs they have rotting in the desert for dirt cheap! lol

[Promod905]

BMW is horriable especially the performance series. That said every brand has its lemons, I have owned six AMG Mercedes cars and never had an issue at all. Got my wife a GL550 and it took 10k a year to keep it running always a light on. Went to a new Gl500 with the turbo motor and had five major issues in the first 10k miles, sold it and got a Sequoia platinum so she could have something trouble free.

I agree with the over engineered responses. Fluid filled motor mounts with sensors come on Audi. But like all European cars they take an abnormally amount of maintenance. That said I will keep buying them because the looks, performance, feeling is worth it in the long run even if I have to cuss it every now and again.

[s42014DSG]

Interesting they said A7 is the least reliable. It's the same powertrain as the A6. So, why'd they single out the A7? Furthermore, the 3.0T has been bulletproof.

Model year. My dad’s 2012 A7 was plagued with many MANY thousands of dollars of repairs. Many TSBs, in AND out of warranty issues.