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Quattrocket
01-18-2006, 12:26 AM
So Im going to be re-building my head this winter with all new crap. do you think its worthwhile for me to put in a set of schrick cams or something like that while im in there? Also could you guys give me links to companies that sell upgraded cams for our cars? TIA

Nor_Cal_Driver
01-18-2006, 02:05 AM
I would guess with a K04 cams are not necessary, if you had a bigger turbo then I would say yes.

Quattrocket
01-18-2006, 02:11 AM
Yeah, ive been reading alot of posts of ppl who installed them and werent happy. I dont think I will go bigger than k04 for reliability reasons. not that my car is terribly reliable now.

Nor_Cal_Driver
01-18-2006, 02:14 AM
Originally posted by Quattrocket
. . . not that my car is terribly reliable now.

No kidding, my car is going for it's 3rd major repair this year.

mike-2ptzero
01-18-2006, 08:21 AM
I think cams will only help with a turbo that can flow high amounts of air at higher rpms. I also dont think the K04 can push enough air to cause the stock cams to be an issue.

goldenchild
01-18-2006, 08:28 AM
lol i put cams in when i had my k04. i think it helped bc i started to pull hard again where the k04s power falls off. all though i payed 1k for install and cams

mike-2ptzero
01-18-2006, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by goldenchild
lol i put cams in when i had my k04. i think it helped bc i started to pull hard again where the k04s power falls off. all though i payed 1k for install and cams


Well the problem is that the k04 falls off because the air flow falls off due to the turbo being at full spool. This is why the boost falls off in the higher rpm's. For the price of the mod it just isn't worth it till you can take full advantage of them with a larger turbo.

goldenchild
01-18-2006, 10:32 AM
o i know but i know myself and i knew that pos k04 wouldnt last long for me..to pussy haha

tkarwin
01-18-2006, 10:49 AM
goldenchild: What cams did you go with? Did you upgrade the valvetrain at all?

Hassmeister
01-18-2006, 11:14 AM
In my experience Normally Aspirated yes. Turbo and Super Charged no (unless there is siginificant dyno stats and real world info). And "most" of the time...the gains are not worth the cost.

goldenchild
01-18-2006, 11:31 AM
i got some eurospec. well how wouldnt 1.8t cams be designed for a turbo? got em from fourseansontuning.com no i didnt change the valve train bc im didnt get a race cam setup with a 11mm or 12mm lift

mike-2ptzero
01-18-2006, 01:15 PM
I am running schrick 252's which have a 10mm lift, but I might be testing some new cams and will see if they have anymore gain over the shcricks I have now. This will be both dyno and racing testing of the new cams vs the schricks.

goldenchild
01-18-2006, 01:17 PM
whats the specs ur goin to get a new valve train right?

mike-2ptzero
01-18-2006, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by goldenchild
whats the specs ur goin to get a new valve train right?

Just going to be testing new cams with my stock valve train I have now.

goldenchild
01-18-2006, 01:22 PM
so.......whats the lift and duration or is that a secret

onemoremile
01-18-2006, 01:54 PM
mike,
are you going to upgrade those valve springs at some point? i've been reading about the cat springs and it looks like they are a direct replacement for the stock parts.

goldenchild
01-18-2006, 01:56 PM
you have a link to those springs? id like to be able to rev the engine in higher rpms in a safe way.