PDA

View Full Version : Bielstein or KW?



namvar
01-07-2018, 09:38 AM
As a friend of mine has put it, I've caught the coilover bug. So after much research and discussions I have narrowed my selection to the Beilstein B16 Ridecontrol with iRC and the KW DDC ECU. I've always been miffed about why Adaptive suspension was not offered as an option for the RS5 in the US and these two options seems to be a good way of dealing with that frustration.

I've see a few threads about the KW

http://www.kwsuspensions.com/ddc

but not much on the Bielsteins.

https://www.bilstein.com/my/products/sport-and-threaded-ride-high-adjustable-kits/bilstein-b16-ridecontrolreg/?L=2

I would appreciate the forum's thoughts on this.

GTM Bandit
01-07-2018, 02:43 PM
I have Bilsteinís B16 Ride Control. Best set of coils Iíve ever had.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

GTM Bandit
01-07-2018, 02:46 PM
As a friend of mine has put it, I've caught the coilover bug. So after much research and discussions I have narrowed my selection to the Beilstein B16 Ridecontrol with iRC and the KW DDC ECU. I've always been miffed about why Adaptive suspension was not offered as an option for the RS5 in the US and these two options seems to be a good way of dealing with that frustration.

I've see a few threads about the KW

http://www.kwsuspensions.com/ddc

but not much on the Bielsteins.

https://www.bilstein.com/my/products/sport-and-threaded-ride-high-adjustable-kits/bilstein-b16-ridecontrolreg/?L=2

I would appreciate the forum's thoughts on this.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180107/1cbbd17e0b295665f53688ed58b81133.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180107/d330ab2d004d0940ba48f19254bca9f5.jpg



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

GTM Bandit
01-07-2018, 02:48 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180107/f973c6ee6567dd4b60e61990363dbae9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180107/879a697806981705e097fa8d02b72649.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180107/b9d48d116b3a484a6d2223524aa4d8a4.jpg


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

JamesRS5
01-07-2018, 05:10 PM
Iíve had the Bilstein iRC, and where they are a beautifully made and handling setup, they lack the adjustability of the KW kit. Bilstein uses 2 fixed rates comfort and sport, you can only adjust the switch over point.
KW are infinitely adjustable damping rates that you can personalise to your own taste.

Itís a tough decision to make but having owned one and experienced the other, I think Iíd go with the adjustability of the KW.

Ape Factory
01-07-2018, 09:24 PM
Does KW still make a DDC damper kit for the RS5? Nothing on their site. I know they exist as I've seen threads on them. Assuming it's a V2 style damper, rebound adjustment only? The ability, with the extra wlan module to make infinite adjustments would win me over. I did read about more than a few people having issues with various things with the KW system.

FWIW, I have the Bilsteins and I'm pleasantly surprised by their performance. I do not have the ride control system, it's the normal B16 with ten adjustments front/rear for rebound. And I have to admit, I've run the dampers on three different settings and settled on one and haven't had any desire to change it since. I have pretty sh*tty roads here (similar to San Fran) and they're completely acceptable in the NVH dept. and are wife-approved. The rebound curve seems pretty soft initially and they do have progressive rate springs. Bilstein also has a U.S. facility that can rebuild the dampers if ever needed which is an important consideration if you're keeping them long-term. The Bilstein Ride Control, honestly, feels a bit gimmicky if you're serious about handling. Not enough adjustment to dial things in. I have almost 39K miles on them now and they're still going strong.

mikedizzzo
01-07-2018, 09:41 PM
Anyone have prices on the two?


Sent from my iPhone using Audizine (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)

JamesRS5
01-08-2018, 03:10 AM
I believe the KW are bump/rebound adjustable together, same as the Bilstein iRC.

One nice feature of the iRC is the accelerometer in the control unit, put it in Auto mode and you can have the car in a Comfort configuration, enter a corner and it automatically switches to Sport without you noticing, but like you say, it lacks the adjustability and I found the damping too soft in comfort mode, speed humps were ugly with the dampers hitting the bump stops even at a crawl, I used to switch to sport mode to ride over them.

Not a US site so factor out the UKís 20% tax: https://www.awesomegti.com/shop-by-car/audi/rs5/kw-ddc-coilovers-audi-rs5-b8-without-electronics-dampers/

And from zeee Germanz: http://www.nh-tuning.de/Suspension-technic/coilover-kits/KW-DDC-coilover-kit/AUDI/RS5-B8/KW-DDC-ECU-coilover-kit-AUDI-RS5-B8-39010028::811192.html?XTCsid=7lrpf06q42f9gqo5aprl2 j8h43

http://www.kwsuspensions.com/ddc/

GTM Bandit
01-08-2018, 06:24 AM
Anyone have prices on the two?


Sent from my iPhone using Audizine (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)

Around $2300


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Ape Factory
01-08-2018, 07:11 AM
I believe the KW are bump/rebound adjustable together, same as the Bilstein iRC.

One nice feature of the iRC is the accelerometer in the control unit, put it in Auto mode and you can have the car in a Comfort configuration, enter a corner and it automatically switches to Sport without you noticing, but like you say, it lacks the adjustability and I found the damping too soft in comfort mode, speed humps were ugly with the dampers hitting the bump stops even at a crawl, I used to switch to sport mode to ride over them.

Not a US site so factor out the UKís 20% tax: https://www.awesomegti.com/shop-by-car/audi/rs5/kw-ddc-coilovers-audi-rs5-b8-without-electronics-dampers/

And from zeee Germanz: http://www.nh-tuning.de/Suspension-technic/coilover-kits/KW-DDC-coilover-kit/AUDI/RS5-B8/KW-DDC-ECU-coilover-kit-AUDI-RS5-B8-39010028::811192.html?XTCsid=7lrpf06q42f9gqo5aprl2 j8h43

http://www.kwsuspensions.com/ddc/

Like you, I did see it listed on a few European performance sites. The U.S. distributors don't list the KW DDC system. Wonder if it's a special order sort of thing here due to replacement parts availability coming from Germany. Strange...

JamesRS5
01-08-2018, 07:43 AM
Just guessing but itís an expensive kit Ape so probably not something a shop would want to keep on the shelf? Pretty sure it can be ordered though, thereís been a few kits installed on US cars.

Ape Factory
01-08-2018, 10:26 AM
Yeah Iíve read a few threads where they were installed on US cars. Just strange you canít find them listed on sites in the US.

namvar
01-08-2018, 11:47 AM
really strange. I got in touch with KW and they confirmed availability. I also sent a quote request to the thread I saw yeasterday offering to source the parts

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/787452-%E2%96%80%E2%96%84-Winn-Autosports-%E2%96%80%E2%96%84-KW-SUSPENSION-UPGRADES?highlight=DDC

I'm waiting for a quote on the B16 ride control. Cmoore86 had the bilsteins on his RS5 and raved about them.

JamesRS5
01-08-2018, 04:48 PM
Make sure to spec the ďiRCĒ option for the Bilstein RC, thatís the control box which contains the accelerometer for automatic switching of damping and iPhone connection. The standard RC dampers only have the dash button for switching between comfort and sport.

namvar
01-09-2018, 08:11 AM
Make sure to spec the ďiRCĒ option for the Bilstein RC, thatís the control box which contains the accelerometer for automatic switching of damping and iPhone connection. The standard RC dampers only have the dash button for switching between comfort and sport.

I'm starting to lean toward the Bielsteins because of exactly that...

cmoore86
01-09-2018, 09:27 AM
Good luck Namvar! Too bad you never got a ride in mine before I sold it. I think the Billstein is the way to go for you. Although KW DDC is a great coil over for sure. But I really enjoyed my Billstein's and wouldn't hesitate to put them in again. Definitely make sure on the iRC option as James pointed out.

GTM Bandit
01-09-2018, 06:04 PM
Sanders Performance Group in Norwood NJ can give you a good price on IRCís.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

namvar
01-09-2018, 07:40 PM
Sanders Performance Group in Norwood NJ can give you a good price on IRCís.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thanks!

GTM Bandit
01-09-2018, 07:40 PM
Thanks!

[emoji1417]


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

PeteRock
01-09-2018, 07:53 PM
I have had the KW DDC ECU Setup with the Wireless LAN Module for a little over a year and love them. I bought them from a custom shop that has done a lot of business with KW so they were able to order and install them. Originally I ordered them from ECS but they refunded me because KW no longer allowed them to sell this kit because they didnít do professional installs. Apparently KW stopped offering this kit in the US. They were $4000 Total. $3500 for the Coilovers and $500 for the Wireless LAN so they can be controlled from the iPhone app.


Pete

JamesRS5
01-10-2018, 01:55 AM
You know I did wonder if it was installation issues that was the driving factor for KW stopping US sales. Itís more involved than just bolting in a set of dampers, thereís splicing into the CAN Bus too (I believe it takes speed info to the DDC ECU).

Bilstein is a stand alone ECU although it does involve a wiring harness that will need to enter the cabin and careful positioning of the ECU for accelerometer accuracy purposes.

PeteRock
01-10-2018, 04:36 AM
You know I did wonder if it was installation issues that was the driving factor for KW stopping US sales. Itís more involved than just bolting in a set of dampers, thereís splicing into the CAN Bus too (I believe it takes speed info to the DDC ECU).

Bilstein is a stand alone ECU although it does involve a wiring harness that will need to enter the cabin and careful positioning of the ECU for accelerometer accuracy purposes.

Spot on according to my buddy who did everything and was able to place the order. He had to deal directly with a VP from German as they put a hard stop on the sales because of poor installation from inexperienced people that they felt was hurting their brand and the perception of this kit.

I have had no issues and love the setup. Initially I was considering the Bilstein Ride Control Kit especially since it was 1/2 the price but decided on the KWs after speaking to some experienced people. Mostly due to overall quality and really because of the limitless adjustability and settings on the KWs


Pete

Ape Factory
01-10-2018, 05:21 AM
How long have you had the system in place, Pete? And who did the installation?

PeteRock
01-10-2018, 05:43 AM
How long have you had the system in place, Pete? And who did the installation?

Hey man....about 15 months and iND Designs in Lake Zurich Illinois did the install. They are BMW guys that have built a lot of custom cars and the owner takes good care of me. His guys have done almost all of the work on my car. I believe it was about 10-12 hours of labor.


Pete

Low Quattro Kuo
01-22-2018, 08:26 PM
I have the bilsteins b16 with IRC too. I did tons of research on the KWs before purchasing. I'm super happy with them and the ride control differences are very noticeable.

I did my own install and it was pretty straight forward. It did take me about 10 hours to finish with everything. I gathered all the tools including the special strut separator tool to release the hold on the top. I forget what it's called. But worth the 10-15 bucks.

Other than that, the hardest part was finding the time and deciding what to go with.

namvar
01-23-2018, 12:40 AM
I have the bilsteins b16 with IRC too. I did tons of research on the KWs before purchasing. I'm super happy with them and the ride control differences are very noticeable.

I did my own install and it was pretty straight forward. It did take me about 10 hours to finish with everything. I gathered all the tools including the special strut separator tool to release the hold on the top. I forget what it's called. But worth the 10-15 bucks.

Other than that, the hardest part was finding the time and deciding what to go with.


Decided on the B16s and have a shop ready to install. The only disappointment is that my iPhone has to connect to the iRC directly rather than through the car's wifi hotspot rendering the phone with no connection to the internet.

GTM Bandit
01-23-2018, 06:05 AM
Decided on the B16s and have a shop ready to install. The only disappointment is that my iPhone has to connect to the iRC directly rather than through the car's wifi hotspot rendering the phone with no connection to the internet.

I have an iPad Pro connected to the iRC. Buy a used iPod and connect to the iRC with it.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Low Quattro Kuo
01-23-2018, 07:41 PM
I also have my old iPhone left in the car as an iPod and connected all the time. Leaves the actual phone out of the equation.




Sent from my iPhone using Audizine (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)

namvar
01-24-2018, 06:34 AM
I also have my old iPhone left in the car as an iPod and connected all the time. Leaves the actual phone out of the equation.




Sent from my iPhone using Audizine (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)

yup. Already tool an old ipod out if the cupboard for that purpose.

JamesRS5
01-24-2018, 09:19 AM
Congrats, great choice. Youíll love them.

JamesRS5
01-30-2018, 10:19 AM
How did you get on with this, pulled the trigger yet?

namvar
01-30-2018, 02:26 PM
yup. Placed the order today. My good friend MOPS is sourcing them for me. Akrapovic order going in on Friday.

JamesRS5
01-30-2018, 05:42 PM
Exciting times, look forward to your reviews/feedback.

Mops@Nemesis
01-30-2018, 07:24 PM
yup. Placed the order today. My good friend MOPS is sourcing them for me. Akrapovic order going in on Friday.

Awwww shucks, Namvar :)

Hypnoguy
04-21-2018, 01:17 PM
Just wondering if those Bilstein have been installed and how you like them.

namvar
04-22-2018, 08:16 PM
Just wondering if those Bilstein have been installed and how you like them.

They are on back order until July. Hope they will be worth the wait...

Pilfer
04-22-2018, 08:31 PM
They are on back order until July. Hope they will be worth the wait...

damn, July!? I'm late to this but I have to be honest. I thought the bilsteins were kind of crappy on my S4 in San Francisco. The ride was jarring, I had PSS10's and they were set to 6 all around. Now that is definitely more sporty than not but I tried them on 5 and the body roll was significantly increased. I would have liked the adjustability to set a sport and non sport setting. When I first drove on the same roads in the 911 with PASM the difference was pronounced, especially with daily driving the terrible SF streets.

I'll be getting coil overs for the 997 eventually and will probably go with bilsteins as they have an option that lets you use the PASM sport button on the dash, at least that's my understanding. I'm looking to buy an Audi as well and will be putting KW coils on that car.

namvar
04-22-2018, 08:57 PM
damn, July!? I'm late to this but I have to be honest. I thought the bilsteins were kind of crappy on my S4 in San Francisco. The ride was jarring, I had PSS10's and they were set to 6 all around. Now that is definitely more sporty than not but I tried them on 5 and the body roll was significantly increased. I would have liked the adjustability to set a sport and non sport setting. When I first drove on the same roads in the 911 with PASM the difference was pronounced, especially with daily driving the terrible SF streets.

I'll be getting coil overs for the 997 eventually and will probably go with bilsteins as they have an option that lets you use the PASM sport button on the dash, at least that's my understanding. I'm looking to buy an Audi as well and will be putting KW coils on that car.

That's exactly what I am getting; the B16 ridecontrols. The WiFi module alos gives you the option to monitor your drives and program the conditions under which the suspension switches from comfort to sport. My goal has always been to get adaptive suspension, an option which was not available for the RS5 in the US. However, from everything I have read it seems that the B16 s are an improvement to the OEM.

Pilfer
04-22-2018, 09:01 PM
That's exactly what I am getting; the B16 ridecontrols. The WiFi module alos gives you the option to monitor your drives and program the conditions under which the suspension switches from comfort to sport. My goal has always been to get adaptive suspension, an option which was not available for the RS5 in the US. However, from everything I have read it seems that the B16 s are an improvement to the OEM.

so do you also have the ability to adjust the dampers on each wheel?

Ape Factory
04-22-2018, 09:07 PM
I think the Bilsteins are actually pretty plush. We have pretty crappy roads here too and I run mine around 6 front, 7 rear without much issue. I've run them as low as 3 and the ride is pretty damn good but you do get more movement over big bumps than I'd like. It's been a while since I've run them that soft. I should dial them down just to reaffirm. I have the PSS10's but with sways front and rear.

Ape Factory
04-22-2018, 09:20 PM
so do you also have the ability to adjust the dampers on each wheel?

I know the KW DDC kit has that ability but i don't think the Bilsteins do. The KW DDC is special order here in the states. I'm not fond of the Ride Control as there's essentially only two settings and you can't fine tune front to rear or side to side if need be.

Pilfer
04-22-2018, 09:31 PM
I think the Bilsteins are actually pretty plush. We have pretty crappy roads here too and I run mine around 6 front, 7 rear without much issue. I've run them as low as 3 and the ride is pretty damn good but you do get more movement over big bumps than I'd like. It's been a while since I've run them that soft. I should dial them down just to reaffirm. I have the PSS10's but with sways front and rear.

maybe because the RS5 is a better car than the S4? I was kind of disappointed, my dad hated it lol.

Ape Factory
04-22-2018, 09:56 PM
What year was the S4? If it's a B8/8.5, it's the same chassis essentially and the same suspension design.

Pilfer
04-22-2018, 10:46 PM
What year was the S4? If it's a B8/8.5, it's the same chassis essentially and the same suspension design.

it was a '13. I would have taken an RS5 over my car any day but I didn't know they existed when I ordered mine. I'd probably still have it if I'd gone the RS5 route.

namvar
07-10-2018, 08:03 AM
Delivery now pushed out to September.

JamesRS5
07-10-2018, 08:19 AM
Oh jeez, they will be worth the long wait.

mikedizzzo
07-10-2018, 09:44 AM
Why does ESC site say different. Says in stock in like 8 days


Sent from my iPhone using Audizine (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)

mikedizzzo
07-10-2018, 09:45 AM
Typo. ECS


Sent from my iPhone using Audizine (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)

mikedizzzo
08-14-2018, 08:23 AM
anyone else still waiting on the Bilsteins Ride Control?

Hypnoguy
08-15-2018, 04:41 AM
anyone else still waiting on the Bilsteins Ride Control?

Iíve been wIting since late March! Been quoted mid-September, but offered full refund if I want to cancel. Frustrating as hell!

namvar
08-15-2018, 01:44 PM
Iíve been wIting since late March! Been quoted mid-September, but offered full refund if I want to cancel. Frustrating as hell!

Since January. The problem is that there is no other solution. KW no longer available

Ape Factory
08-15-2018, 04:58 PM
KW is no longer selling kits for the A5/S5/RS5?

namvar
08-18-2018, 11:01 AM
That is my impression. not is the US at least.

PeteRock
08-18-2018, 11:40 AM
That is my impression. not is the US at least.

I was able to get a set of KW DDC ECU Coilovers for my B8.5 S5 last year after they were supposedly no longer for sale in the US so I can check with my contact to see if he can get another set

Would you be interested?


Pete

namvar
08-19-2018, 08:58 AM
Thanks Pete. It would be good to know if I have another option. Waiting for the Bilsteins has been painful

PeteRock
08-19-2018, 10:09 AM
Thanks Pete. It would be good to know if I have another option. Waiting for the Bilsteins has been painful

Ok cool....Iíll ask him and let you know....I looked into both setups at the time and was leaning towards the Billsteins because of price but then decided to go with the KWs because of my friends advice and I am so glad that I did.....having the iPhone app that allows me to dial in each wheels damper from 0-100 is awesome but I usually use the button that I had mounted in the console.....having 3 settings (Comfort- 100 Damper, Sport- 35 Damper and Sport + 0 Damper) that you can select instantly is awesome.....so worth the extra money!

81026


Pete

namvar
08-19-2018, 06:46 PM
Ok cool....Iíll ask him and let you know....I looked into both setups at the time and was leaning towards the Billsteins because of price but then decided to go with the KWs because of my friends advice and I am so glad that I did.....having the iPhone app that allows me to dial in each wheels damper from 0-100 is awesome but I usually use the button that I had mounted in the console.....having 3 settings (Comfort- 100 Damper, Sport- 35 Damper and Sport + 0 Damper) that you can select instantly is awesome.....so worth the extra money!

81026


Pete

I've opted not to install the button and just control the settings through a dedicated smartphone. But I do like your mod.

namvar
10-09-2018, 08:56 AM
Another delay. Now December. Absolutely no faith in them being able to hit that also. I ordered last Feb and they had no issues taking my payment. Now they show absolutely no accountability for their failure to deliver.

Frustrated [headbang]

spense5
10-09-2018, 09:18 AM
Another delay. Now December. Absolutely no faith in them being able to hit that also. I ordered last Feb and they had no issues taking my payment. Now they show absolutely no accountability for their failure to deliver.

Frustrated [headbang]

Bilstein has been remodeling their HQ for the past 12 months, hence the delay. ECS got word 5 days ago and should be getting their shipment second week of Dec. Orders going out end of Dec. I've also contacted several other dealers and they are reporting DEC as well, thats coming straight from Bilstein too but then again, there can always be a delay of a couple weeks or a month. I'd confidently say Dec-Jan shipments arriving. I too am waiting to order the PSS10 kit I think unless shipments are pushed again and again I will rebuild and tweak my Ohlins SL

cmoore86
10-09-2018, 10:26 AM
Another delay. Now December. Absolutely no faith in them being able to hit that also. I ordered last Feb and they had no issues taking my payment. Now they show absolutely no accountability for their failure to deliver.

Frustrated [headbang]

Damn Namvar! If I personally hadnt had so many KW damper failures I would say go that route. Otherwise hang in there and I guess be happy that when you finally do get the Billsteins...at least they are paid for already! (j/k...real bummer that they took your money already)

namvar
10-09-2018, 11:25 AM
Damn Namvar! If I personally hadnt had so many KW damper failures I would say go that route. Otherwise hang in there and I guess be happy that when you finally do get the Billsteins...at least they are paid for already! (j/k...real bummer that they took your money already)

only reason I am sticking with it is because of your experience.

Dlau
10-09-2018, 11:25 AM
Oh man, I actually ordered the same time you did and went air instead. I guess I would've been waiting with you too.

Mops@Nemesis
10-09-2018, 11:28 AM
Oh man, I actually ordered the same time you did and went air instead. I guess I would've been waiting with you too.

Yep David, you would be. I have (9) still waiting. [:(]

Xyrian
10-09-2018, 03:48 PM
Yep David, you would be. I have (9) still waiting. [:(]

=[

Hypnoguy
10-09-2018, 04:54 PM
Right there with you Namvar, placed my order in April. This sucks.

Dlau
10-09-2018, 08:49 PM
Yep David, you would be. I have (9) still waiting. [:(]

:(

Ape Factory
10-15-2018, 02:58 PM
Guys, I just received an email from ECS stating Bilsteins were back in stock for a limited time. Don't know if that means they have the PSS10 or B16 kits. Just passing along.

namvar
10-16-2018, 10:47 PM
Guys, I just received an email from ECS stating Bilsteins were back in stock for a limited time. Don't know if that means they have the PSS10 or B16 kits. Just passing along.

Thanks. probably not the ride controls. but worth the check. If so I think MOPS and I will have a bone to pick with the US distributor

GTM Bandit
10-16-2018, 11:39 PM
Thanks. probably not the ride controls. but worth the check. If so I think MOPS and I will have a bone to pick with the US distributor

Check with Sanders Performance Group in Norwood NJ. They can get you a set. Ask for Lucille


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Mops@Nemesis
10-17-2018, 06:49 AM
Thanks. probably not the ride controls. but worth the check. If so I think MOPS and I will have a bone to pick with the US distributor

A good bit of Bilstein product arrived a couple of weeks ago, but nothing PSS10/B16 for our vehicles.

namvar
10-17-2018, 01:25 PM
A good bit of Bilstein product arrived a couple of weeks ago, but nothing PSS10/B16 for our vehicles.

ECS shows end of october availability but I think that is because they have not updated it to December yet

namvar
12-21-2018, 08:30 PM
No Ride controls until July 2019 according to Bilstein.

Cancelled the order today.

Anyone have any suggestions besides KW DDC?

JamesRS5
12-21-2018, 10:09 PM
Are you wanting to stay with electrically adjustable?

namvar
12-22-2018, 12:15 AM
Are you wanting to stay with electrically adjustable?

yes. Been reading up other threads and the only other choice I see is the KW DDC ...

JamesRS5
12-22-2018, 12:26 AM
I think thatís your only other option, they are a great damper, I know my friend had them installed in his Golf R and loved them.

JamesRS5
12-22-2018, 12:29 AM
Did you try looking for the Billyís outside of the US? You may have more luck in Europe but additional shipping costs.

namvar
01-14-2019, 10:11 PM
Well I am throwing the towel. After ordering the KW DDC I was just informed that KW has discontinued the model.

JamesRS5
01-14-2019, 10:34 PM
Did you try outside of the US? https://www.awesomegti.com/shop-by-car/audi/rs5-b8/kw-ddc-coilovers-audi-rs5-b8-without-electronics-dampers/

I've a set of DRC dampers sat here at home, I removed them to fit the Ohlins Coilovers. You could always be the first US car to have DRC. Failing that, the Ohlins are a nice setup.

JamesRS5
01-15-2019, 09:09 AM
Namvar, I contacted Al Brown at Awesome for you, youíve been misinformed by whoever youíre dealing with, KW are still making these on a Ďspecial buildí so they will take approximately 1 month from order. I would suggest you contact another KW dealer or go direct through awesome at the website above, they will ship to you and probably deduct the VAT from the price.

Donít give up!

PeteRock
01-15-2019, 12:13 PM
Namvar, I contacted Al Brown at Awesome for you, youíve been misinformed by whoever youíre dealing with, KW are still making these on a Ďspecial buildí so they will take approximately 1 month from order. I would suggest you contact another KW dealer or go direct through awesome at the website above, they will ship to you and probably deduct the VAT from the price.

Donít give up!

I was going to post the same as I picked up my KWs after they stopped selling it in the US.

Let me know if you want me to see if I can get it from my buddy as he has a great relationship with KW and was able to get it for me without too long of a wait.


Pete

Mops@Nemesis
01-15-2019, 12:36 PM
Namvar, I contacted Al Brown at Awesome for you, youíve been misinformed by whoever youíre dealing with, KW are still making these on a Ďspecial buildí so they will take approximately 1 month from order. I would suggest you contact another KW dealer or go direct through awesome at the website above, they will ship to you and probably deduct the VAT from the price.

Donít give up!

James - Namvar is dealing with me. And this is simply information KW USA passed along to us.

Namvar, you're fully aware I'll do whatever is needed to take care of you. I can certainly look at another channel if you're set on the DDC.

Bilstein stated today, the B16 kits will definitely arrive by end of March. So we've ordered an un-sold kit. This way, if Namvar still needs, we'll have one for him.

Mops@Nemesis
01-15-2019, 02:22 PM
Well I am throwing the towel. After ordering the KW DDC I was just informed that KW has discontinued the model.

I have a request out to Germany. I'll report back. 👍🏼

namvar
01-15-2019, 08:07 PM
Namvar, you're fully aware I'll do whatever is needed to take care of you. I can certainly look at another channel if you're set on the DDC.

Bilstein stated today, the B16 kits will definitely arrive by end of March. So we've ordered an un-sold kit. This way, if Namvar still needs, we'll have one for him.

Big fan of Mops here. trust him and recommend him 100%. Thanks for reaching out to Germany directly.

JamesRS5
01-15-2019, 08:07 PM
James - Namvar is dealing with me. And this is simply information KW USA passed along to us.



No worries Ben, I couldn't imagine KW stopping this line and I want to see Namvar smiling. There seems to be a lack of communication between the Euro and US side of these suspension companies.

Mops@Nemesis
01-15-2019, 08:39 PM
Big fan of Mops here. trust him and recommend him 100%. Thanks for reaching out to Germany directly.

We'll see what we get back, and plan from there. I have the connects, but didn't think I needed to exercise them.


No worries Ben, I couldn't imagine KW stopping this line and I want to see Namvar smiling. There seems to be a lack of communication between the Euro and US side of these suspension companies.

KW stated they are cancelling only the A5 P/N as sales have been weak, so I didn't question it. Fire has been fueled. 👍🏼

namvar
01-16-2019, 06:54 AM
Thank you James. I was just telling my wife about my friends on the forum and how they look out for me and how we look out for each other.

Mops@Nemesis
01-16-2019, 06:56 AM
Thank you James. I was just telling my wife about my friends on the forum and how they look out for me and how we look out for each other.

Right? Thatís how itís been around here over my ~10 years spent thus far. Very cool!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Mops@Nemesis
01-17-2019, 05:32 AM
Thank you James. I was just telling my wife about my friends on the forum and how they look out for me and how we look out for each other.

KW can in fact build the DDC kit. The lead is 5-6 weeks. But the pricing isn't great. My cost pre-ship is more than I was charging you shipped. But since we know you can source that kit, feel free to see if James or Pete can assist.

namvar
01-17-2019, 08:34 AM
KW can in fact build the DDC kit. The lead is 5-6 weeks. But the pricing isn't great. My cost pre-ship is more than I was charging you shipped. But since we know you can source that kit, feel free to see if James or Pete can assist.

Let's wait for the Bilsteins.

Mops@Nemesis
02-20-2019, 12:58 PM
Let's wait for the Bilsteins.

FYI for all - B16 P/N 49-151282 is officially DEAD, and has been replaced by P/N 49-250534. The new P/N now includes the iRC module and has been revised/improved. The ETA for the new P/N is late May.

Ape Factory
02-20-2019, 01:32 PM
Is the non-ride control version the same or has it been updated too?

mikedizzzo
02-20-2019, 01:50 PM
i ordered 49-151282 on Nov 23, 2018 and got shipped with the iRC module. Maybe the changed it just now.

namvar
02-23-2019, 03:43 AM
FYI for all - B16 P/N 49-151282 is officially DEAD, and has been replaced by P/N 49-250534. The new P/N now includes the iRC module and has been revised/improved. The ETA for the new P/N is late May.

any insight as to what the improvements are?

Mops@Nemesis
02-25-2019, 09:51 AM
Is the non-ride control version the same or has it been updated too?

It is unrevised, and as of this morning, we now have (6) of those kits ready to ship - P/N 48-147231. It's a miracle! [>_<]


any insight as to what the improvements are?

I'm still waiting to hear, Namvar. I did ask the question. [up]