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Ape Factory
11-06-2017, 07:50 PM
I spent my day off today accomplishing a few tasks on the RS5 after ordering a bunch of items and parts. On my to do list was a spark plug swap, oil and filter change, CR-15 installation, black emblems front and rear swap, ECS magnetic oil drain plug and lastly, the ECS Tuning billet oil filter cap. I turned the Bilsteins up two notches, 5 front and rear as well but more on that later.

Everything went fairly smoothly as it's a new-to-me platform and I took the time to download all of the PDF's off of the Audi ERwin site and read all the pertinent data the day prior. I've been attempting to get ELSAWin up and running but I'm having no luck. Installing a virtual version in the next day or two.

What didn't go smoothly was removing the OEM filter from the oil filter housing lid and then trying to transfer the filter retainer valve to the ECS billet oil cap. WTF Audi, WTF ECS. I finally managed to get the old filter out and read the oh so brief instructions on the ECS website to "pry" out the filter retainer valve which is made of plastic with a metal center portion. I tried various metal pry tools to no avail. I was only willing to pry so hard because if I damaged that valve, I was SOL.

I called ECS and got disconnected THREE Times. After calling the fourth time, and being on hold, yet again, for 15 minutes, I gave up and reinstalled the OEM filter lid. Going to shoot them an email and see what they say. Apparently you cannot buy the filter retainer valve separately or at least ECS didn't offer it. Really frustrating and it should come with a disclaimer about it being a complete pain in the ass.

While the car was up, I cranked the Bilstein damper adjustment up to ten and backed them off five clicks. I totally forgot to see what the front H&R sway bar was set to but I'm running stock tire pressure (44f, 41r) and thinking I may need to make an adjustment there as well. I honestly can't wait to get a set of Michelin Pilot Super Sports (or PS4's) on the car. While the Sumitomos are decent, they don't have the same level of outright grip, are vague on center and tramline on the smallest groove in the road. They also don't have the wet grip of the PSS.

I also have to mention the front badge removal is also a complete pain. I was really hoping to be able to remove the engine bay cowl and reach down to get access to the clips. Those clips just wouldn't budge and I ended up gashing one of my fingers pretty severely. Lots of cursing ensued. The rear wasn't too bad and I have a heat gun and Goop Off which made quick work of the residual adhesive. I ordered the badges off of Ebay and they were genuine Audi components. I'd bought some badge adhesive but the rear badge came with adhesive tape already installed so it was a breeze.

The hardest part of the spark plug change is getting the stock air boxes out. So overall, I'd say it's a 4 out of 10 on the difficulty chart. You'll need lots of torx bits but it's far better than trying to remove the bottom splash shield. My next oil change will be from up top. Going to alternate. Ironically, the factory service manual has the drain procedure but it says "Not for North America". Apparently they only do it from up top round these parts.

It was clear whomever changed the oil in the past had gone from underneath. There were a few missing bolts but nothing too bad and I managed to end up with zero unaccounted-for fasteners when I was done.

I use Motul Specific this go around as I used that brand exclusively on my Italian bikes and was always pleased with it's performance. Might try Liqui Molly next. I didn't notice any audible differences. My last car was very sensitive to oil brand and would produce lifter tick if I didn't use a certain brand. The oil in there was pretty black. I'll be changing the oil every 5K and I have one more AudiCare appointment left that'll need to be used by April of next year.

I did manage to shoot a video for the spark plug change. It'll take me some time to edit it and put it all together but some might find it useful. Did the same for the CR-15 bar as well. And then my phone died before I could shoot the oil change video.

I also took the time to do a lot of engine bay cleaning and even hosed off the the splash under tray while it was out as it had some grime here and there. The engine underside was bone dry, zero evidence of any leaks which is good.

Beast
11-06-2017, 08:04 PM
the front RS5 grille badge clip is very easy to remove. Just jam your hand in behind the grille and feel for two clips, you must press them both at the same time inwards and pull with your other hand outside of the grille. Pops out easy. The front rings on the other hand are a PITA! I broke my stock chrome rings, careful of the plastic of the grille it scratches easily.

Post some pictures!

Ape Factory
11-06-2017, 08:13 PM
I left the RS5 badge alone, just the rings. And yes, I snapped mine into half a dozen pieces purposely out of spite. I mostly shot video and just a few stills for the video. Didn't get around to a wash and wax so no beauty shots. It's been raining off and on again here. One of those weeks. Red hides the dirt ok. Then you clean some of it away and the car gets two full stops brighter, LOL.

Ape Factory
11-06-2017, 08:23 PM
Ok a few pics...
ECS goodies
https://s20.postimg.cc/dvi5xe9x9/IMG_3615.jpg (https://postimg.cc/image/z55s88q7t/)

CR-15 bar prior to installation
https://s20.postimg.cc/v8sgca03h/IMG_3558.jpg (https://postimg.cc/image/be6eq5kvt/)

Spark plugs!
https://s20.postimg.cc/iw7d1reml/F2_D72733-56_A3-43_EB-_BF15-89_D8605_F1_F7_B.jpg (https://postimg.cc/image/c5qvsbrgp/)

More plugs, old vs. new. The old were visibly worn and the gap was visibly larger. I do get a bit of stumbling on cold start, was hoping the new plugs would completely eliminate it. Not the case. Waiting to see of those plastic carbon cleaning fixtures will work with the 4.2L. That'll be my next project.
https://s20.postimg.org/mdrm1qo5p/IMG_3609.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/rp6imga89/)

Beast
11-06-2017, 08:27 PM
Looks like a very productive day! :D

mcbuck
11-07-2017, 02:43 AM
Nice!! Love me some quality wrench time with new goodies (except for the filter cap). Interested to hear your impression of the cr-15, thatís one that I have not picked up but may be next.


Buck
Sent from this little electronic gizmo

Ape Factory
11-07-2017, 05:56 AM
I had very little time driving yesterday except to go get gas and groceries but it was indeed less "creaky" coming out of my driveway and the car felt good overall. Part of that was probably turning up the damping. There's too much body motion with the Bilsteins set at 3, even with the H&R sways. We'll see how it does today over the run to work.

Mike&Ike.Rah
11-07-2017, 06:52 AM
Very productive day indeed, I was thinking about picking up the magnetic drain plug in my oil change kit as well. I like the idea of the plug attracting and holding any free metallic parts that the filter may have missed, although idk if it actually works

Ape Factory
11-07-2017, 07:40 AM
The magnetic drain plugs do work. I used one on my last car and have one on the wifeís SUV as well.

JamesRS5
11-07-2017, 08:16 AM
On a positive note, the removed plug looks like the engine has a nice healthy mixture.

Youíve just got to pull hard on the filter until it snaps out, itíll go, eventually..

Ape Factory
11-07-2017, 08:24 AM
I still have the plugs and I stupidly did not mark which cylinder they came out of. They all looked almost identical save for one which had a slightly darker porcelain as it appears that cylinder was running a bit richer. Going to measure the used plug gap to see how much wear there was on the OEM plugs after 37k miles.

Ape Factory
11-07-2017, 08:39 AM
Having one of my wheels repaired, slight bend on the inside lip that I did not catch when inspecting the vehicle. But...shot of new black front rings while Iím waiting.
https://s20.postimg.cc/5pww7ig7x/6D6CEA90-D21A-4894-A423-11C8423FFE49.jpg (https://postimg.cc/image/vy80ww0bd/)

Ape Factory
11-07-2017, 09:16 PM
Forgot to mention I did this as well. The interior needed some red accents. Wasn't 100% sold at first but loving the look and improved functionality.
https://s20.postimg.cc/o2iozgf8d/IMG_3492.jpg (https://postimg.cc/image/cq63ho6jd/)

krism
11-08-2017, 01:39 PM
Forgot to mention I did this as well. The interior needed some red accents. Wasn't 100% sold at first but loving the look and improved functionality.
https://s20.postimg.org/47wndbsb1/IMG_3491.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/71zsqruh5/)

Looks good! Where did you get the shift paddle adapters? Do they just clip on to the stock?

Ape Factory
11-09-2017, 05:12 AM
They're Ebay specials, anodized aluminum and they pop onto the back and are held in place by small machine screws. I didn't want to drop big bucks on something that I wasn't sure would be effective but they're actually quite nice. I tend to drive around in manual most of the time. The set screws are really small but they send extras in case you drop them.

Our paddles are apparently the same shape as the 2013 S4's so if it fits that year and model, it'll fit the RS5. I'm sure there are many models and years that are the same but I knew that one for sure. I was originally looking at the Axmotiv paddle extensions but I couldn't get a clear answer that they'd fit and they were 250% more for essentially the same thing.

mcbuck
11-09-2017, 07:21 AM
Forgot to mention I did this as well. The interior needed some red accents. Wasn't 100% sold at first but loving the look and improved functionality.
https://s20.postimg.org/47wndbsb1/IMG_3491.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/71zsqruh5/)

I'm actually liking the red, think these just got added to the list.....thanks [rolleyes]

Ape Factory
11-09-2017, 08:24 AM
ITs just the right amount of pop for me and it gives the interior a more special feel. Plus it matches the exterior!

Ape Factory
11-09-2017, 08:39 AM
The company that makes the paddles is Pinalloy.

krism
11-09-2017, 09:26 AM
They're Ebay specials, anodized aluminum and they pop onto the back and are held in place by small machine screws. I didn't want to drop big bucks on something that I wasn't sure would be effective but they're actually quite nice. I tend to drive around in manual most of the time. The set screws are really small but they send extras in case you drop them.

Our paddles are apparently the same shape as the 2013 S4's so if it fits that year and model, it'll fit the RS5. I'm sure there are many models and years that are the same but I knew that one for sure. I was originally looking at the Axmotiv paddle extensions but I couldn't get a clear answer that they'd fit and they were 250% more for essentially the same thing.

That's awesome, thanks!

krism
11-09-2017, 09:49 AM
They're Ebay specials, anodized aluminum and they pop onto the back and are held in place by small machine screws. I didn't want to drop big bucks on something that I wasn't sure would be effective but they're actually quite nice. I tend to drive around in manual most of the time. The set screws are really small but they send extras in case you drop them.

Our paddles are apparently the same shape as the 2013 S4's so if it fits that year and model, it'll fit the RS5. I'm sure there are many models and years that are the same but I knew that one for sure. I was originally looking at the Axmotiv paddle extensions but I couldn't get a clear answer that they'd fit and they were 250% more for essentially the same thing.

Quick follow up question, they come in flat and curved, from what I can tell the curved will fit our model?

Ape Factory
11-09-2017, 04:55 PM
Flat. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pinalloy-Red-Alloy-Steering-Paddle-Shifter-Extension-for-Audi-A3-A4-A5-A6-A7-TT/131984684554?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=431330244367&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

Yep, just went and looked at my receipt. A-type flat.

mcbuck
11-09-2017, 07:18 PM
HA! just bought the last set! [:D]

Ape Factory
11-09-2017, 07:21 PM
Crunch all you want. They'll make more.
https://www.pinalloy.com

beeee five
11-14-2017, 11:46 AM
Couple questions: What is the exact weight and brand of oil Motul is it that you're using? What type of spark plugs? I just picked up my RS5 a week ago and want to get those items up to date since I bought from a dealer. Also, thanks for sharing the link on those paddles, picked up a set myself, but 15-35 days shipping geez!

EDIT: saw plugs are NGK's.

Ape Factory
11-14-2017, 05:59 PM
The oil is the Motul Specific and I ordered this kit which has Motul Specific 5w-40.
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-assembled-by-ecs-parts/oil-service-kit-premium-with-ecs-magnetic-drain-plug-billet-oil-filter-housing/842451motkt1/

The kit also comes with a magnetic drain plug, OEM filter and their billet oil filter housing cap. SKIP the oil filter housing cap.

Plugs...look a few photos up. I took a photo of the box. They're NGK PFR7S8EG 1675. These are pre-gapped to the correct for RS5 specification. If you shop around, you can get all eight for under $80.

For the paddles, there's an online discount code for Thanksgiving. The code is Thanksgiving2017 Gives you 20% off! Hey it takes time to ship parts over from China! I bought the paddles off of Ebay and a U.S. reseller.

beeee five
11-14-2017, 06:05 PM
The oil is the Motul Specific and I ordered this kit which has Motul Specific 5w-40.
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-assembled-by-ecs-parts/oil-service-kit-premium-with-ecs-magnetic-drain-plug-billet-oil-filter-housing/842451motkt1/

The kit also comes with a magnetic drain plug, OEM filter and their billet oil filter housing cap. SKIP the oil filter housing cap.

Plugs...look a few photos up. I took a photo of the box. They're NGK PFR7S8EG 1675. These are pre-gapped to the correct for RS5 specification. If you shop around, you can get all eight for under $80.

For the paddles, there's an online discount code for Thanksgiving. The code is Thanksgiving2017 Gives you 20% off! Hey it takes time to ship parts over from China! I bought the paddles off of Ebay and a U.S. reseller.

Hey thanks man! I jumped the gun on the paddles so missed out on that discount smh. Really appreciate your response!

ALMRS6
11-14-2017, 06:06 PM
Hey


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krism
01-12-2018, 01:14 PM
Ended up getting these for Christmas!
http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/Paddle_Shift_Extensions.jpg

Only thing I didn't like was how smooth the back was, so added Gator Grip and is much more to my liking
http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/Paddle_Shift_Extensions_Back.jpg

Ape Factory
01-12-2018, 06:08 PM
Nice! I spaced mine back a bit by adding a layer of double-sided tape. Still secures with the set screws but I now have a few more mm in between the edge of the levers and the back of the steering wheel. Really like them, especially considering the more than reasonable cost. And they do look way cool.

krism
01-13-2018, 07:23 PM
Ya considering how expensive everything else is for these cars these are a bargain!

shawn1771
04-04-2018, 05:52 AM
Liked the way those paddle shifters look, just ordered some.[:d] You mentioned a video of your spark plug change but can't find it, don't know where to look. Could you send a link to it?

Ape Factory
04-04-2018, 08:06 AM
I havenít posted it yet and I need to get up off my arse and get it done. Iíll have it posted soon and let you know about it.

xxxaudixxx
04-04-2018, 09:04 AM
Do you have an update on how to remove the old oil filter from the housing? I'm doing my own oil change but haven't changed the filter yet.

mcbuck
04-04-2018, 09:51 AM
Liked the way those paddle shifters look, just ordered some.[:d] You mentioned a video of your spark plug change but can't find it, don't know where to look. Could you send a link to it?
Spark plug change is cake. You will literally spend more time removing and replacing the airboxes than you will changing the plugs. Basically remove both airboxes, remove the coil harness retaining screws, unplug harnesses, pull the coils, replace the plugs, and reverse previous steps. That is from memory, so may have missed something minor. But seriously, if you have any mechanical inclination, it's easy-peasy.


Do you have an update on how to remove the old oil filter from the housing? I'm doing my own oil change but haven't changed the filter yet.
Pull.
The filter feels like it is anchored pretty well, but pull straight out and it will pop loose. Don't forget to change the o-ring on the housing cap.

xxxaudixxx
04-04-2018, 10:05 AM
Thanks mcbuck!

shawn1771
04-04-2018, 10:18 AM
I want to say "you da man mcbuck" but is today's gender complicated world I'll let you fill in the blank........[:D] Thanks mcbuck.

shawn1771
04-04-2018, 10:19 AM
Would like to watch it but may make one this weekend while I'm working on changing the plugs and oil.

Ape Factory
04-04-2018, 07:58 PM
Yep the plug change is pretty easy. The airbox removal is more complicated from a step standpoint. More screws. The coils are very hard to pull out as well and don't forget to get some dialectic grease and lube the end of the coils up before putting them back in.

I purchased an Audi-specific oil puller kit which made it easier. Still took some muscle though!

The oil filter is just about as bad but luckily there's only one of those to remove.

rasetsu
04-20-2018, 01:17 PM
I'm late to this party but I managed to swap the filter element retainer to the ECS cap after about an hour of struggling. I too was disappointed at the amount of effort it took but I was determined. The trick was to loop two large Zip ties through in between the factory cap and the retainer in between the clips of the cap that hold it. Make the ties into two equal loops. Now put the cap in a vice or have someone hold it. Put on a work glove and two fingers into the loops and yank hard and fast. Bastard popped right out.

Ape Factory
04-20-2018, 01:30 PM
Lol, you sir are a brave man!

Ape Factory
04-28-2018, 05:49 PM
Video of the spark plug change is now done. Sorry it took so long! Been sitting on the clips forever.


https://youtu.be/A8RlqyZwLIA

Beast
04-28-2018, 06:11 PM
Great video! Nice work

Those crank hose clips still give me nightmares haha.