New Audi RS7 to get 700bhp hybrid power

[vexige]

Not sure if this was posted:

http://www.evo.co.uk/audi/rs7/20060/new-audi-rs7-to-get-700bhp-hybrid-power

[RSLRS71]

very nice....powerful hybrids are the only way to go if considering any type of electronic...IMO. Electric alone is garbage...as in the case of the Teslas. ;)

[p3u]

very nice....powerful hybrids are the only way to go if considering any type of electronic...IMO. Electric alone is garbage...as in the case of the Teslas. ;)

I wouldn't say that, esp in Colorado. The Tesla has a massive advantage of not having to worry about oxygen content when a mile+ high.

That being said I hate Teslas :)

[RSLRS71]

I wouldn't say that, esp in Colorado. The Tesla has a massive advantage of not having to worry about oxygen content when a mile+ high.

That being said I hate Teslas :)

oh man. lol i can't. WAY overrated car PERIOD

[p3u]

You can hate on them, but you have to respect them for what they are.

If you and a Telsa duked it out at Bamdimere you'd cry.

Teslas just doesn't have any soul. It never has evoked any emotion from me and never will despite how fast they are in a straight line.

[bonafyd]

👀Uh oh someone said Tesla😂

[nosirrahx]

A hybrid RS7 is the only car I am willing to part with my RS7 for.

[wwhan]

Alternative to Tesla: Production Porsche Mission E Priced Around $85,000 in 2019; 80-percent Charge Takes 15 Minutes

http://fourtitude.com/news/production-porsche-mission-e-priced-around-85000-2019-80-percent-charge-takes-15-minutes/
""Production Porsche Mission E Priced Around $85,000 in 2019; 80-percent Charge Takes 15 Minutes
by Timothy Cain on 13 September 2017 in Boutique Brands Fourtitude News

“It is very close to what you saw two years ago at Frankfurt,” Porsche CEO Oliver Blume says of the forthcoming production version of 2015’s stunning Mission E Concept.

“It will be exciting but a bit different from the concept,” Blume told CAR Magazine at the Frankfurt Motor Show.

That’s for beholders to gauge once the production version of the Mission E is pictured in 2019, when the model arrives exclusively with electric powertrains. Oliver Blume did, however, make clearer commitments relative to the Mission E that will delight Porschephiles and — perhaps — convert Tesla fans.

Right from launch, the Porsche Mission E — likely a 2020 model year vehicle — will be marketed with a 350 kW charge rate that “will be enough for a 400-kilometer range on an 80 percent charge,” Blume says. That’s 250 miles of range from a 15-minute charge. All of this in a car that Porsche claims accelerates from rest to 60 miles per hour in 3.5 seconds and tops 155 mph, a car Porsche couldn’t have developed “so quickly without the 919” — the automaker’s Le Mans-winning hybrid endurance racer.

Porsche’s CEO says the company is in the final engineering phases for the Mission E, a car the company sees as filling the void in between the Panamera and 911. At least to start, the production Mission E — which Porsche calls a “fascinating sports car” — will be positioned alongside its sports car and sedan bookends. It will, says Porsche, be “priced like entry-level Panamera.”

Including delivery, Porsche USA’s entry-level Panamera starts at $86,050. The basic Porsche 911 Carrera is a $92,150 car.

Porsche says the Mission E’s fully charged range will be 300 miles, but the company is considering different power outputs — expect S and GTS models, for example — which will presumably alter the range. The dual-motor format promises all-wheel drive. Different bodystyles are also under consideration.

Presently, the least costly Tesla Model S is the $69,500 rear-wheel drive 75 with 249 miles of range and a 4.3-second 0-60 time. Tesla also markets the $74,500 75D (with slightly more range and all-wheel drive), the $94,000 100D (335-mile range, 0-60 in 4.1), and the $135,000 P100D, which drops range by 20 miles but cuts the 0-60 time to a claimed 2.5 seconds.

At launch, however, faithfulness to 2015’s concept could end up as just as strong a selling point as the Porsche badge or Model S-baiting acceleration figures. Few and far between are cars with enough drama to match the Mission E’s eye-catching design.""

[Brooklyn]

Why bother with the 650hp version at all?


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[LINDW4LL]

Why bother with the 650hp version at all?
The hybrid option likely won't be cheap. I assume they need to have a "normal" model at standard pricing.



The article also alleges the hybrid model's V8 will be detuned to 550hp, and then get 150hp from the electric motor(s) which is interesting. Should result in a "fuller" powerband, plus the engine could be tuned back to (and to far exceed) 650hp.

[MadAboutCars]

V8 plus electric. Nice! Lots of torque on demand. *drool*

[UsualSuspect]

This thing is going to be a complete animal!

[gta7]

Going to be expensive!!!!

[Chris Morales]

I wonder how much weight the hybrid technology (battery) will add. I also wonder if this drivetrain will eventually become available in the D5 S8.

If you can tune the "detuned" 550 HP 4.0T to the levels now seen in the RS7, the hybrid model sounds like a 9 second car when tuned.

[RSLRS71]

You can hate on them, but you have to respect them for what they are.

If you and a Telsa duked it out at Bamdimere you'd cry.

Teslas just doesn't have any soul. It never has evoked any emotion from me and never will despite how fast they are in a straight line.whoa there bud! that's a HUGE assumption on your part...considering a Tesla would actually lose....

[gta7]

Don’t hate Tesla’s at all.

This hybrid RS7 definitely has my attention, it will be like the Performance model today. We’ll see how I feel about 2020 when it’s time to start looking.

[p3u]

The RS7 in stage 2 would lose in a 1/4, and at Bandimere destroyed. Have you taken your car to the strip at Bandimere? You'd be very lucky to crack 11.

I'd put $1,000 on that race.

5500ft in elevation will put the RS7 at a massive disadvantage.

[Chris Morales]

The RS7 in stage 2 would lose in a 1/4, and at Bandimere destroyed.

If not at elevation, the stage 2 with race fuel would win easily. On pump gas it's probably close. But at Bandimere, RS7 gets destroyed. I imagine a P100D is simply untouchable for street cars up there. RSLRS7 needs to go find out how hard it is to put down a good time at Bandimere.

[RSLRS71]

If not at elevation, the stage 2 with race fuel would win easily. On pump gas it's probably close. But at Bandimere, RS7 gets destroyed. I imagine a P100D is simply untouchable for street cars up there. RSLRS7 needs to go find out how hard it is to put down a good time at Bandimere.

um, i speak from experience brotha. i'll welcome any Tesla...

[RSLRS71]

and for the record, i can accept a loss. ;) only motivates me to build something stronger...

[p3u]

um, i speak from experience brotha. i'll welcome any Tesla...

To avoid any ambiguity, are you saying you've ran your RS7 at Bandimere? If so please show us these Tesla beating times.

[RSLRS71]

To avoid any ambiguity, are you saying you've ran your RS7 at Bandimere? If so please show us these Tesla beating times.

ive ran Teslas on the street that were trying to embarrass me....and embarrassed them. you'll be the first to see the video when i get one next.

[p3u]

If you haven't been to Bandimere to race you can't appreciate what is being discussed. They would embarrass you as bad as your car would embarrass mine.

[Ze_Nardo6]

RSL why are you always so reluctant to post times? We understand you're at altitude. But to continue to run your mouth, or keyboard, without anything to substantiate your claims is exhausting.

What Chris said above is most likely spot on. At altitude, the electric cars have an insane advantage. That's not a dig at your car. We all know how ridiculously quick stage 2 RS cars are..

[CanuckRS]

Alternative to Tesla: Production Porsche Mission E Priced Around $85,000 in 2019; 80-percent Charge Takes 15 Minutes

Ditto on the Porsche, absolutely gorgeous. Will seriously consider this next.

[Chris Morales]

Yeah. To be fair, I'm only talking about the P100D and P90D cars, though a P85 should be a handful at altitude as well. If he's smoked a P60 or something, that's surely believable. At least I would hope that's what would happen, even at altitude.

What's the deal RSLRS71? Is there something stopping you from either going to Bandimere or reporting your times from there? It's not like anyone would hold it against you for running substantially slower up there. But you seem to completely ignore the likelihood of running slower.

[gta7]

Ditto on the Porsche, absolutely gorgeous. Will seriously consider this next.

This will definitely be on my list as well. Even if a nicely optioned version tops $100k it’s a nice alternative.

[lnferno]

ive ran Teslas on the street that were trying to embarrass me....and embarrassed them. you'll be the first to see the video when i get one next.

You should go to Bandimere next Wednesday (10/4). I’ll be there with my 4.0T. [cool][race][drive]

Time to live up to your signature! [cool]

[cobrario]

You should go to Bandimere next Wednesday (10/4). I’ll be there with my 4.0T. [cool][race][drive]

Time to live up to your signature! [cool]

You know how I feel about that - I'm all about the timeslips [:D]

[jachien]

I find it interesting that the claimed transmission they're going with will be an stronic. While their stance on better torque handling capabilities of the lesser models is in favor of a ZF


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[LINDW4LL]

I find it interesting that the claimed transmission they're going with will be an stronic. While their stance on better torque handling capabilities of the lesser models is in favor of a ZF
I thought the same. Audi has been all over the place with their transmission choices.

[wwhan]

I find it interesting that the claimed transmission they're going with will be an stronic. While their stance on better torque handling capabilities of the lesser models is in favor of a ZF


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They may be using the Porsche ZF unit.

http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/this-is-porsche-and-zfs-new-eight-speed-dual-clutch/

https://www.zf.com/corporate/en_de/products/product_range/cars/cars_8_speed_dual_clutch_transmission.shtml

[all_kobiwon]

This is fun, though no RS7. Tesla burns the supercars. Ha ha Lexus.

http://www.break.com/video/worlds-greatest-drag-race-7-3129484

[StefanS]

Seems like Audi is taking on Porsche's Panamera. Pretty sure they are both stunning cars.

[jachien]

This is fun, though no RS7. Tesla burns the supercars. Ha ha Lexus.

http://www.break.com/video/worlds-greatest-drag-race-7-3129484

Lol at the Lexus. Stupid pos. When I went to the market research session for this car, everyoneeeee that was there saw no point in Lexus making the car and voted no that Lexus should not make this car but if they insisted they should, better tech and more power and more efficiency should be developed. They didn't listen. To their defense though, the market they're targeting for this car is the BMW 650i and base S coupe segment.


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[wwhan]

Lol at the Lexus. Stupid pos...

haha

And the Lexus is last and that's just fine.

well put

[RSLRS71]

You should go to Bandimere next Wednesday (10/4). I’ll be there with my 4.0T. [cool][race][drive]

Time to live up to your signature! [cool]

where are you located?

[moonlights4]

The new RS7 performance when tuned might just take flight.


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[lnferno]

where are you located?

About an hour away from Bandimere. Are you going to show?

[nosirrahx]

Talked to my guy at my dealership today. He has an educational track event with Audi next Tuesday. He is going to see what info he can get from them about this.

[limeypride]

You know how I feel about that - I'm all about the timeslips [:D]

Just last night, I had the pleasure of meeting Don in Orlando and watching him crack out a 10.31? something (in stupid heat + humidity) which, I believe, beats any Tesla 1/4 mile ever recorded... unless its launch involved a cliff I guess.

[limeypride]

The new RS7 performance when tuned might just take flight.

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If by "new", you mean 2017, the gains of the Performance model are lost when tuned relative to its non-Performance counterpart--there's no appreciable difference (at least, not that we've been able to see/prove so far).

[moonlights4]

If by "new", you mean 2017, the gains of the Performance model are lost when tuned relative to its non-Performance counterpart--there's no appreciable difference (at least, not that we've been able to see/prove so far).

No, was talking about the “new” hybrid which I presume will be the performance variant when it’s released. Think that’s gonna be insane. Tuning potential+hybrid. Wow.


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[limeypride]

No, was talking about the “new” hybrid which I presume will be the performance variant when it’s released. Think that’s gonna be insane. Tuning potential+hybrid. Wow.

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Ah, I did wonder. Understood.

I've test-driven the new Panamera Turbo and it was something special handling-wise. The "S" variant is where the hybrid comes in I think--I'll test drive that, too, in anticipation of its RS7 kin (which has to be better looking).

[jachien]

Speaking of which, Porsche just released panamera Turbo s e-hybrid sport turismo. 680hp. My goodness.


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