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FlyNikolai
05-12-2017, 09:29 PM
98 Audi A4 Rear Wheel Bearing

Hey guys, I have a bad rear drivers side wheel bearing--screaming like crazy but no play in the wheels at all. So from my research I saw that there's known quality brand bearings & place of origins as well. I also saw that a lot of these companies just repackage each other & sell.

So I actually decided on the F.A.G bearing from Amazon for $44, heard it's OEM but it's made in China though. And the other option was a National bearing from my local AutoZone. So I decided to go to AutoZone & check out the bearing in person to decide.

So I arrive at AutoZone & the guy comes out with a bearing in a Timken box 🤔 what a coincidence lol. To top it off, I open the box to inspect the bearing & guess what? It was stamped SKF ITALY 🤔 what a double coincidence lol.

So long story short I ended up buying it, because I figured it's good quality because I heard SKF is considered a great brand & the origin being ITALY I thought would seal the deal--literally(no pun intended lol).

What do you guys think? Is it good? Also do German bearings have the race part of the entire bearing? I'm confused because I see no roll balls on either side(don't judge me I'm a noob lol). And is there anything else that I need or that's supposed to come with it? Because it's just the bearing in the box.

Thanks for any help​ guys much appreciated


P.S. I attached a picture of my interior, man these mats I picked out are awesome lol. Also that's the F.A.G bearing I was going to buy but I wanted the bearing job done this weekend. And the other picture is the SKF being shown as a National on AutoZone's apphttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170513/3680d8a976b520f951ac94af9088c2f8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170513/0749617381b2cb29ddda48084593c2c3.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170513/349975b59e02c989dc7c57341410194e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170513/4102d1eaf8c7098b2adc747ec7c18863.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170513/4bc7f3a7bc6a87c7f0338c4924477c79.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170513/6898e162ba7c3c390b89eb8ad0d7847b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170513/fa33b0cd76be69046c6b91ca503369ad.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170513/2d2015c90a55ab94aa3e75db75aa2f45.jpg

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Turbo_B5
05-12-2017, 09:54 PM
The Italians make good shit. i would go with it.

FlyNikolai
05-12-2017, 10:02 PM
The Italians make good shit. i would go with it.
Yea that's what I was thinking lol, thanks on the feedback

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Turbo_B5
05-12-2017, 10:11 PM
Yea that's what I was thinking lol, thanks on the feedback

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for the future I would try MEYLE wheel bearings. They make control arms which alot of people on the forum use including myself. My summer car has both front meyle bearings.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100-598-0338-MEYLE-Wheel-bearing-kit-fit-AUDI-A4-8D2-8D5-B5-11-94-09-01-/201607266438?fits=Car+Make%3AAudi%7CModel%3AA4&hash=item2ef0bac086:g:jT4AAOSw-4BXZvfL

FlyNikolai
05-12-2017, 10:20 PM
for the future I would try MEYLE wheel bearings. They make control arms which alot of people on the forum use including myself. My summer car has both front meyle bearings.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100-598-0338-MEYLE-Wheel-bearing-kit-fit-AUDI-A4-8D2-8D5-B5-11-94-09-01-/201607266438?fits=Car+Make%3AAudi%7CModel%3AA4&hash=item2ef0bac086:g:jT4AAOSw-4BXZvfL
Awesome good looks on that took a screenshot, hey the bolt is supposed to come with it/needed? I heard they're all supposed to be replaced--only 1 time use or something

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Turbo_B5
05-12-2017, 10:21 PM
Awesome good looks on that took a screenshot, hey the bolt is supposed to come with it/needed? I heard they're all supposed to be replaced--only 1 time use or something

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Yep the new wheel bearing usually comes with the bolt. If not you should get one. I do have a buddy however who always reused them. It is a stretch bolt and stretches to provide the correct clamping force.


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FlyNikolai
05-12-2017, 10:35 PM
Yep the new wheel bearing usually comes with the bolt. If not you should get one. I do have a buddy however who always reused them. It is a stretch bolt and stretches to provide the correct clamping force.


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Alrighty thanks​, I'm guessing it's one of these...

*(17mm Allen, four 12mm 12 point bolts) the sizes may be wrong

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Turbo_B5
05-12-2017, 10:39 PM
Alrighty thanks​, I'm guessing it's one of these...

*(17mm Allen, four 12mm 12 point bolts) the sizes may be wrong

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It's one of these... if you ever need to find a part for your car use this website. They have pretty much every part pictured along with a few brands usually. Will get you a vase price to go off of when shopping on other websites and locally.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170513/5113fd5f879c3cdd1da58637daf3bf35.jpg

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FlyNikolai
05-12-2017, 10:45 PM
It's one of these... if you ever need to find a part for your car use this website. They have pretty much every part pictured along with a few brands usually. Will get you a vase price to go off of when shopping on other websites and locally.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170513/5113fd5f879c3cdd1da58637daf3bf35.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170513/a0425aaf331f7989f99c575882d5f536.jpg


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Thanks bro you are immensely helpful​, appreciate it

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Turbo_B5
05-12-2017, 11:01 PM
Thanks bro you are immensely helpful​, appreciate it

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Welcome buddy. Glad to of helped.


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seanf86
05-13-2017, 06:15 AM
SKF/National is good shit, I don't know if I got a bad run of F.A.G bearings or what but I went thru 3-4 of them in a year. Started using SNR-NTN bearings made in the UK no issues there either.

I don't think it was install error as I used the wheel bearing tool all of the times an followed the same process.

FlyNikolai
05-13-2017, 04:18 PM
SKF/National is good shit, I don't know if I got a bad run of F.A.G bearings or what but I went thru 3-4 of them in a year. Started using SNR-NTN bearings made in the UK no issues there either.

I don't think it was install error as I used the wheel bearing tool all of the times an followed the same process.
You just made me feel even better about the SKF's lol, thanks. I heard you're supposed to grease them up well when you put the new one's in. But I'm a noob so what do I know lol

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Turbo_B5
05-13-2017, 04:20 PM
You just made me feel even better about the SKF's lol, thanks. I heard you're supposed to grease them up well when you put the new one's in. But I'm a noob so what do I know lol

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i put my f.a.g in completely dry... just slid right on home.

FlyNikolai
05-13-2017, 04:25 PM
i put my f.a.g in completely dry... just slid right on home.
How long have yours lasted?

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Turbo_B5
05-13-2017, 04:26 PM
How long have yours lasted?

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i did mine 10 days ago and good so far. [up]

FlyNikolai
05-13-2017, 04:30 PM
i did mine 10 days ago and good so far. [up]
Jeez I wish you were in NYC, definitely would've paid you to do mine lol smh.

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Turbo_B5
05-13-2017, 04:30 PM
Jeez I wish you were in NYC, definitely would've paid you to do mine lol smh.

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it helps to have a buddy with a buddy with a 20ton press.

Turbo_B5
05-13-2017, 04:32 PM
Jeez I wish you were in NYC, definitely would've paid you to do mine lol smh.

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it helps to have a buddy with a buddy with a 20ton press. The hard part is the bottom essetric if it is frozen... will take like 2-5hours the first time you do one, more if that bolt is frozen.

if not just take like 40-60 to a shop with the loose upright and get them to press it in.

FlyNikolai
05-13-2017, 04:43 PM
it helps to have a buddy with a buddy with a 20ton press. The hard part is the bottom essetric if it is frozen... will take like 2-5hours the first time you do one, more if that bolt is frozen.

if not just take like 40-60 to a shop with the loose upright and get them to press it in.
Wow, yea well unfortunately for me I live in NYC where there's literally a crooked/unethical auto shop on every street corner smh. So I know the shops who offered to do the wheel bearing job for me for $150, will probably just hammer it in & half a$$ it all.

So it looks like I'll just have to pay $300 to get it done at a reputable known shop like AAMCO, who I know will have the press & give me a warranty. Funny thing is they told me I have to use their bearing & not mine, or else they can't do it or give me the 1 year warranty smh.

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FlyNikolai
05-13-2017, 04:56 PM
it helps to have a buddy with a buddy with a 20ton press. The hard part is the bottom essetric if it is frozen... will take like 2-5hours the first time you do one, more if that bolt is frozen.

if not just take like 40-60 to a shop with the loose upright and get them to press it in.
Yea that would be the smartest thing to do, but I'm not sure if I can even get to the "loose upright" part lol, the strugglehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170513/92d0616183241d1678fbc5537d8b0e55.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170513/7a31701843e67574f5bf9005b0db0a4c.jpg

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Murph_129
05-15-2017, 07:04 AM
Jeez I wish you were in NYC, definitely would've paid you to do mine lol smh.

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Just finished mine this weekend. I bought a rear set of the F.A.G bearings from FCP Euro. They went right in no problem. I did mine by leaving the upright on the car and then used a harbor freight bearing puller and bearing splitter, although I still had to use a press to separate the hub from the old inner bearing race.

It's amazing how much better it sounds (Absolute silence actually), and I had some minor vibrations I could feel in my feet and butt that went away as well. Biggest improvement though was the noise. Already put about 200 miles on them with no problem.

FlyNikolai
05-15-2017, 08:49 AM
Just finished mine this weekend. I bought a rear set of the F.A.G bearings from FCP Euro. They went right in no problem. I did mine by leaving the upright on the car and then used a harbor freight bearing puller and bearing splitter, although I still had to use a press to separate the hub from the old inner bearing race.

It's amazing how much better it sounds (Absolute silence actually), and I had some minor vibrations I could feel in my feet and butt that went away as well. Biggest improvement though was the noise. Already put about 200 miles on them with no problem.
Man I could imagine the peace & quiet lol, I'm hoping for the same. It really does hum bad

I'm getting mine done as we speak. They just finished pressing the new bearing in, thankfully the hub is still good.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170515/f10c6621d963a54ca7ee4f7aae6f94ef.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170515/79743d92c9cb5798e5f28de65db97617.jpg

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FlyNikolai
05-15-2017, 07:14 PM
She rides smoother & sounds much much quieter. However due to my enhanced acoustics lol, I still do hear a very low sound.

I went back to the shop & the European mechanic took a drive with me & says it sounds like rusty rotors etc. The mechanic that did the bearing I did ask him to look around a bit for me...

And he did mention my rotors were type rusty earlier, he said probably have to be changed in about 6,000 miles. And my front joints are a bit shaky/loose.

Would rusty rotors etc give a very low sound? I can also hear it a bit when I brake. It's not super loud by any means


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Murph_129
05-16-2017, 06:46 AM
She rides smoother & sounds much much quieter. However due to my enhanced acoustics lol, I still do hear a very low sound.

I went back to the shop & the European mechanic took a drive with me & says it sounds like rusty rotors etc. The mechanic that did the bearing I did ask him to look around a bit for me...

And he did mention my rotors were type rusty earlier, he said probably have to be changed in about 6,000 miles. And my front joints are a bit shaky/loose.

Would rusty rotors etc give a very low sound? I can also hear it a bit when I brake. It's not super loud by any means


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Of course, rotors could easily cause noise, or worn pads. If you replaced bearings on both sides, I would say that's probably not the noise, and honestly they would know if they installed them incorrectly (I think they would have a hard time putting it all back together if anything was incorrect)..

I would look into buying from FCP Euro. They do a 100% free/guaranteed replacement even on consumables. (You buy a set of rotors now, use them, send them back, and they send you a new set for free... Or you can buy the new set, and then send them the old. Then they will just reimburse you) Pretty sweet.

FlyNikolai
05-16-2017, 07:47 AM
Of course, rotors could easily cause noise, or worn pads. If you replaced bearings on both sides, I would say that's probably not the noise, and honestly they would know if they installed them incorrectly (I think they would have a hard time putting it all back together if anything was incorrect)..

I would look into buying from FCP Euro. They do a 100% free/guaranteed replacement even on consumables. (You buy a set of rotors now, use them, send them back, and they send you a new set for free... Or you can buy the new set, and then send them the old. Then they will just reimburse you) Pretty sweet.
Awesome, thank you for your perspective & the information. I have taken​ great notes lol--I'll get some new rotors, another bearing for the right side & an alignment etc.

I learned I have the sports suspension due to the red shocks which is cool lol. The guy I got the the car from, was a pretty wealthy guy. And he went all out & ticked off all the luxury & sport packages right off the showroom floor back in 1998 for his daughter lol

These things I'm still learning because I live in NYC which I mentioned, and it's hard to get the car on a lift. Without being charged & limitations of course smh, so I don't get to see under the car entirely like I would want to...

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