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petraman
05-10-2017, 04:14 PM
Hey Audi USA,

Glad you guys are on the forums. This is kind of a last-ditch effort, as I've been "fighting" with the dealer I bought my car from (Audi of Middleburg Heights in Middleburg Heights, Ohio) ever since I bought my car. Almost literally.

On April 15th, 2016, I bought my 2013 Audi A4. Besides the issue I'm about to describe, it's a great car and I love it very much. The problem is, every time I drive more than 30-40 minutes, the car turns into a pain in my ass. I'll explain.

The problems happened on my way home from the dealer. After a few miles, I noticed a "shuddering" when I let out the clutch (it's a manual), much like a flywheel feels once it's been warped. I thought "nahh this car only has 26k miles on it, I'm probably feeling things" but it kept getting worse and worse. The salesman called me up to follow-up on his sale and I told him the issue. After this, he suggested I come in to the service bay. 1st appointment: Can't replicate. 2nd appointment: Found anomaly, "master tech" knows how to fix it.

To try to "fix" it, they did the following:

1. Performed a carbon cleaning
2. Replaced the coils

It was actually pretty generous (although, I'm sure it was Audi that footed the bill and not them). They gave it back to me and, once again, I felt the shuddering I've felt many times yet again. The third trip back to the dealer, I finally was able to demonstrate it at the worst, and yet again, it sat another week at the dealer when finally they called me and said their master tech was "stumped" and asked for their loaner car back. Needless to say, I was ticked. But not as ticked as I was about to be...

A month later, I took my car to another dealer (Audi of Bedford) and told them to take a look at it. The tech that drove with me told me almost instantly "Yep, that's a failed dual-mass flywheel, I've seen a few of them fail." He then went into how they work, how they fail, what to do to fix it, just like it was common knowledge. Because I didn't buy the car from them, they said they'd have to have a $1200 deposit down just in case Audi doesn't cover it. Then they said that the dealer I bought it from should take up the costs, once I explained what it was. NOPE! In fact, they asked for $1900! I bought the car with an issue, and the issue isn't fixed... and nobody seems to want to help me. It's really disappointing. I bought a CPO car that was $6k more than a similar non-CPO car. I feel like that $6k was a waste now.

I'm not sure if you can help, but I'd certainly appreciate it if you could give any advice on what to do next.

P.S. Not implying anything, but I found out later on that the car was owned by a salesman that works at the dealer.

Audi USA
05-11-2017, 06:15 AM
Good morning. I'd like to look into this for you with some of my resources.
If you could send me a private message with your full name, VIN, mailing address, phone number and email, it would be much appreciated.

petraman
05-11-2017, 04:11 PM
PM sent!

sleeperwagon
05-21-2017, 06:25 AM
Hey can you PM me the results please? I had different issues with one of my Audi's at the Akron dealer. Almost left Audi all together but Bedford Audi did me right with my A6 and just ordered a RS3 over a BMW M2. Note that Akron dealer will never get $1 from me the rest of my life or my kids. I took my wifes M3 in for service and they were awesome, even gave her a loaner car for her 2003 M3 in service. I do watch how customers are treated and that does affect what car I buy next and from which dealer.

Good Luck and i'll trust Audi takes care of you.

Audi USA
05-22-2017, 06:38 AM
Hey can you PM me the results please? I had different issues with one of my Audi's at the Akron dealer. Almost left Audi all together but Bedford Audi did me right with my A6 and just ordered a RS3 over a BMW M2. Note that Akron dealer will never get $1 from me the rest of my life or my kids. I took my wifes M3 in for service and they were awesome, even gave her a loaner car for her 2003 M3 in service. I do watch how customers are treated and that does affect what car I buy next and from which dealer.

Good Luck and i'll trust Audi takes care of you.

Good morning, I am glad Bedford Audi was able to help you with your concerns. I'm sorry to learn of your experience with the dealership in Akron. Congratulations on your Audi RS 3. [:)]

sleeperwagon
05-25-2017, 05:53 PM
Mike it really sucks that Audi of North America has little control on their dealerships. I think that is just another half ass answer to divert responsibility until it becomes a huge issue. Kinda like the 2.0 oil consumption and dieselgate scandal. Audi does need to step up, I know many, many customers that are on their last straw with Audi, myself being one of them. i did get my son a BMW x3 over an Audi a3-4 b/c of my experience with the dealership in Akron and my mom went and got a Toyota Highlander over a Q3; it does affect future sales.

HEY Petraman...what I do know is that if you report all 1's on your post sale service survey that the employees do get dinged, as does the dealership when Audi of NA gives out year end awards. Sorry you got screwed with your CPO. If it matters, my friend owns HS Tuning in Westlake. They can sell and install a new clutch much cheaper than an Audi Dealership. I give him 5 stars from my experience. FYI. call and ask for Hurley.

Audi USA
05-26-2017, 05:52 AM
Mike it really sucks that Audi of North America has little control on their dealerships. I think that is just another half ass answer to divert responsibility until it becomes a huge issue. Kinda like the 2.0 oil consumption and dieselgate scandal. Audi does need to step up, I know many, many customers that are on their last straw with Audi, myself being one of them. i did get my son a BMW x3 over an Audi a3-4 b/c of my experience with the dealership in Akron and my mom went and got a Toyota Highlander over a Q3; it does affect future sales.

HEY Petraman...what I do know is that if you report all 1's on your post sale service survey that the employees do get dinged, as does the dealership when Audi of NA gives out year end awards. Sorry you got screwed with your CPO. If it matters, my friend owns HS Tuning in Westlake. They can sell and install a new clutch much cheaper than an Audi Dealership. I give him 5 stars from my experience. FYI. call and ask for Hurley.

Hi, thanks for reaching out to us. I am sorry to learn of your experiences with Audi dealerships. I appreciate you sharing your feedback with us. We are focused on doing all we can to assist our customers and work in partnership with our business partnerships to turn customer’s experiences around. If you’d like to discuss your concerns and experience further, please send me a private message with your full name and contact info.