S7 or C450?

[Albertaoil]

Hi guys,

I'm cross shopping these two cars, (I know very different), and want to hear some opinions.

Facts:

2013 Audi S7 pretty much base, CPO, 55000km, black, god awful wood trim inside. $54000 asking.

2016 Merc. C450AMG, every option, matte black vinyl rapped, after market exhaust, (no sure on brand), 7k and change km's, asking $60000.

My last car was a stage 1 S4.

Thanks in advance.

[yeuchau]

C450 is not really an upgrade over S4, so I would say S7.
However I do love the new C interior, do you need the space or not is antoher question.

[ericw.]

Keep shopping on the S7. That price is too high for a base model with wood trim.

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[amelen]

Different class of cars, I'd take S6 (or an S7 if you prefer the hatch) over an C450AMG. My dad has a C300 - it's not the AMG, but it's really a different class of cars. The E63 AMG would be a closer comparison.

[Albertaoil]

Yes, I'm leaning toward the S7, room isn't really an issue as I have 2 other vehicles and this would be a toy/road trip car.
There aren't many good options for the S7 on the used market but the C450 I pretty much have my pick.
The reason I'm even looking at the Merc is I've already had a few Audi's but never tried BMW/Mercedes and the interior on the C350 is very nice.
What ever car I end up with will get a tune, from what I've read the number are similar for both.
Decisions, decisions.

[SPONGE]

2014 S7 so you can get the led lights.

[cobrario]

There aren't many good options for the S7 on the used market but the C450 I pretty much have my pick.
I think that might tell you something there?

What ever car I end up with will get a tune, from what I've read the number are similar for both.
Decisions, decisions.
I can't imagine a c450 tuned would perform anywhere near a stage 1 or 2 S7- would it ? Maybe a stage 2 A7-3.0T
Either way good luck!

[OmaHahn]

"god awful wood trim inside"

Sorry but LOL !! I just don't get why anyone would want any kind of wood trim in a sport sedan!! I too have seen some horrific wood trim options that Audi offers! I wonder how many Audis that are custom ordered are with any type of wood trim?

[Albertaoil]

"god awful wood trim inside"

Sorry but LOL !! I just don't get why anyone would want any kind of wood trim in a sport sedan!! I too have seen some horrific wood trim options that Audi offers! I wonder how many Audis that are custom ordered are with any type of wood trim?

I know, I've never meet someone who likes it. IMO it makes the car look cheaper.

[Albertaoil]

I think that might tell you something there?

I was thinking the same thing.
I test drove one and it felt solid, the interior vasy way better then the audi and it felt as fast as my stage 1 S4. Also it sounds pretty cool.
I've been creeping on the MBworld forum and they have some issues but nothing more then the S4 did.

I can't imagine a c450 tuned would perform anywhere near a stage 1 or 2 S7- would it ? Maybe a stage 2 A7-3.0T
Either way good luck!

Well from what I've read on both forums, the S7 stage 1 is 520WHP and I want to say 500WTQ, the 450 with AMS or OE tune is putting down 475WHP and 500WTQ. The 450 is 3700lbs, S7 is 4500.
So acceleration wise I think they would feel similar, IMO.
P.S. I think mt TQ numbers are a little off but I can't remember off the top of my head.

[Albertaoil]

^^^^^ Not sure what happened with my first reply but it's in the quote now, haha.

[ericw.]

2014 S7 so you can get the led lights.
Which LED lights did the 2014 come with that the 2013 didn't? I have a 2013 and now you've made me curious what I'm missing. lol


Yes, I'm leaning toward the S7, room isn't really an issue as I have 2 other vehicles and this would be a toy/road trip car.
There aren't many good options for the S7 on the used market but the C450 I pretty much have my pick.
The reason I'm even looking at the Merc is I've already had a few Audi's but never tried BMW/Mercedes and the interior on the C350 is very nice.
What ever car I end up with will get a tune, from what I've read the number are similar for both.
Decisions, decisions.

Have you been on Auto Trader lately? Or is that only a US based website? I'd say expand the area you're searching in, shipping cars isn't THAT expensive and you may even be able to work the cost of shipping into the price of the car like I did with my S7.

[Ze_Nardo6]

As said above, expand your search further from you, shipping costs would be worthwhile to get the car you want.

I would bet a tuned 450 is not touching a tuned S7

[Albertaoil]

Which LED lights did the 2014 come with that the 2013 didn't? I have a 2013 and now you've made me curious what I'm missing. lol



Have you been on Auto Trader lately? Or is that only a US based website? I'd say expand the area you're searching in, shipping cars isn't THAT expensive and you may even be able to work the cost of shipping into the price of the car like I did with my S7.

We do have Auto trader up here and I have searched the entire country in which there is only 13 listed, 8 of those being brand new. I do have a budget of 60000 max so that is limiting me somewhat.
Shipping/fly and driving back I'm fine with as most of my vehicle purchases have been done this way.

[Albertaoil]

One more question, is the 7 speed in the s7 the same one as the s4?

[ericw.]

We do have Auto trader up here and I have searched the entire country in which there is only 13 listed, 8 of those being brand new. I do have a budget of 60000 max so that is limiting me somewhat.
Shipping/fly and driving back I'm fine with as most of my vehicle purchases have been done this way.
I think this is one of those patience games then. Wait til one comes up with carbon fiber trim so there's no regret later.

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[Albertaoil]

Definitely, its soooo hard to wait once you decide to buy something, lol
Thanks for the insight, I'll post once I pull the trigger.

[Ze_Nardo6]

If your max budget is $60k, why not consider the S6? Doesn't sound like you need the cargo room and the S6 actually has more room in the rear seats and an additional seat. Same engine/trans/etc. for $10k less.

[ericw.]

Definitely, its soooo hard to wait once you decide to buy something, lol
Thanks for the insight, I'll post once I pull the trigger.
give it a month man. you'll be happy you did. I shopped for a couple months to find the right car at the right price.

If your max budget is $60k, why not consider the S6? Doesn't sound like you need the cargo room and the S6 actually has more room in the rear seats and an additional seat. Same engine/trans/etc. for $10k less.
BECAUSE SPORTBACK MFER! haha jk S6 is sexy too.

[Albertaoil]

If your max budget is $60k, why not consider the S6? Doesn't sound like you need the cargo room and the S6 actually has more room in the rear seats and an additional seat. Same engine/trans/etc. for $10k less.

I know, I know,but man I love the look of the S7, I would love an RS7, maybe some day, haha.
Also my neighbour has a brand new S6.

[cobrario]

I would love an RS7

Yes you would [;)]- I still pinch myself every time I drive it

[jsmonet]

Ugh, base model of nearly every car is such a bad idea. The creature comforts of the s6/7 really complete the car. Between the two I'd go loaded c450 if you didn't have any space requirements.

Also, and I'm trying not to offend the '13 owners here with this, but a fair amount has changed in the last few years and it's really beginning to show on the '13s. I'd stick to finding a c7.5 and consider the 6 in there with it for the obvious price difference.

I really doubt you'd hate life in the c450. Get some drive time in.

[Ze_Nardo6]

Also, and I'm trying not to offend the '13 owners here with this, but a fair amount has changed in the last few years and it's really beginning to show on the '13s. I'd stick to finding a c7.5 and consider the 6 in there with it for the obvious price difference.


This.

[MikeDwerks]

Not your main car, already had Audi's, not a good selections on the s7 in your region, then go ahead and give the C450 a try

[gk1]

Well from what I've read on both forums, the S7 stage 1 is 520WHP and I want to say 500WTQ, the 450 with AMS or OE tune is putting down 475WHP and 500WTQ. The 450 is 3700lbs, S7 is 4500.
So acceleration wise I think they would feel similar, IMO.
P.S. I think mt TQ numbers are a little off but I can't remember off the top of my head.

Stage I S7 is closer to 580WTQ but if you are interested in all-out acceleration 1/4 mile times might tell a better story.
Stage I S7 can be in the low to mid 11's depending on the conditions and driver. Stock is 12.3
Tuned 450 runs low 12's. Stock is 13.1

[andrewt]

I looked hard at a C450 when they first came out to replace the C400. I would have purchased it but the dealer wouldn't offer a decent trade for my '15 Golf R thanks to the whole VW fiasco at the time. 6 months later I ended up in an S6 which was ultimately the better, albiet much more expensive, choice. No regrets, would choose the S6 every time in retrospect.

[ericw.]

Ugh, base model of nearly every car is such a bad idea. The creature comforts of the s6/7 really complete the car. Between the two I'd go loaded c450 if you didn't have any space requirements.

Also, and I'm trying not to offend the '13 owners here with this, but a fair amount has changed in the last few years and it's really beginning to show on the '13s. I'd stick to finding a c7.5 and consider the 6 in there with it for the obvious price difference.

I really doubt you'd hate life in the c450. Get some drive time in.

I don't think anyone is offended. What are the differences between 2013 and 2014 though? Someone said LEDs but which LED?

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[Ze_Nardo6]

Stage I S7 is closer to 580WTQ but if you are interested in all-out acceleration 1/4 mile times might tell a better story.
Stage I S7 can be in the low to mid 11's depending on the conditions and driver. Stock is 12.3
Tuned 450 runs low 12's. Stock is 13.1

A whole second quicker in the 1/4...bit of a difference.

[Marc R]

S7 hands down....

[wwhan]

I don't think anyone is offended. What are the differences between 2013 and 2014 though? Someone said LEDs but which LED?

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" optional LED headlights and standard LED taillights " Audi introduces the new 2014 Audi A6, A6 TDI® and S6 (https://www.audiusa.com/newsroom/news/press-releases/2013/06/audi-introduces-2014-a6-tdi-s6)

[ericw.]

" optional LED headlights and standard LED taillights " Audi introduces the new 2014 Audi A6, A6 TDI® and S6 (https://www.audiusa.com/newsroom/news/press-releases/2013/06/audi-introduces-2014-a6-tdi-s6)

Ah yeah, that's kind of what I was expecting. Thanks for that wwhan. This 2013/2014 split seems to be irrelevant to S7. I didn't think there was a facelift that year and the packages had very little difference from 2012-2014. LED package was always standard in the S7.

As for all the other slackers... I don't think people are offended by the model year of their car and what options they had. I think what does irritate some people though is when a few people are just repeating what they've heard without actually knowing the details. Great to have an opinion, but at least know why you feel that way.
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[Ze_Nardo6]

Ah yeah, that's kind of what I was expecting. Thanks for that wwhan. This 2013/2014 split seems to be irrelevant to S7. I didn't think there was a facelift that year and the packages had very little difference from 2012-2014. LED package was always standard in the S7.

As for all the other slackers... I don't think people are offended by the model year of their car and what options they had. I think what does irritate some people though is when a few people are just repeating what they've heard without actually knowing the details. Great to have an opinion, but at least know why you feel that way.
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I can't help but feel that's directed at me since I'm the only person who publicly agreed with jsmonet. I didn't agree nor say anything about the differences between 2013 vs 2014/2015 models because the differences are negligible. I was agreeing to the fact that a C7.5 is quite a leap from the C7 if optioned properly (sports package, etc.). That would also be an opinion, to which I'm entitled. Quite easy to spot the differences between the two, at least for me. But I'm a stickler for details

[ericw.]

I can't help but feel that's directed at me since I'm the only person who publicly agreed with jsmonet. I didn't agree nor say anything about the differences between 2013 vs 2014/2015 models because the differences are negligible. I was agreeing to the fact that a C7.5 is quite a leap from the C7 if optioned properly (sports package, etc.). That would also be an opinion, to which I'm entitled. Quite easy to spot the differences between the two, at least for me. But I'm a stickler for details

It was a general statement directed at you both and anyone else who is on the bandwagon but can't tell me specifically what's different. Lol

Which options in the c7.5 aren't on the c7 besides the obvious exterior face lift? My car has the sport diff. This is a genuine question. I want to know what I'm missing out on. Lol

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[Ze_Nardo6]

It was a general statement directed at you both and anyone else who is on the bandwagon but can't tell me specifically what's different. Lol

Which options in the c7.5 aren't on the c7 besides the obvious exterior face lift? My car has the sport diff. This is a genuine question. I want to know what I'm missing out on. Lol

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUicyQTpAOU

I saw a 2013 sitting next to a 2016 at the dealership when I went in to decide on CPO vs ordering new. I think it's one of the best facelifts Audi has ever done on an existing chassis

[GolfGL]

I can't help but feel that's directed at me since I'm the only person who publicly agreed with jsmonet. I didn't agree nor say anything about the differences between 2013 vs 2014/2015 models because the differences are negligible. I was agreeing to the fact that a C7.5 is quite a leap from the C7 if optioned properly (sports package, etc.). That would also be an opinion, to which I'm entitled. Quite easy to spot the differences between the two, at least for me. But I'm a stickler for details

I would add against the 2013s (I have one) is that a few mechanical things went wrong that have been corrected since (motor mounts, strut tower brace, etc etc)

[ericw.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUicyQTpAOU

I saw a 2013 sitting next to a 2016 at the dealership when I went in to decide on CPO vs ordering new. They look like 2 different generations rather than just a facelift if you're a detail oriented person like myself

lol you keep saying "if you're a detail orientated person".. I'm a software developer. I literally measure the space between the end of the table and my table lamps to make sure they're all aligned equally (uneven margins drive me insane).

It's a facelift generation because the interior and most of the exterior remains the same. The difference being the front and rear headlights and slight changes to the bumpers. Everything between the bumpers did not change. Being detail orientated also means knowing the details in the (English language) words you use to describe something. [>_<]

Also, OP is talking about an S7 not an S6.


I would add against the 2013s (I have one) is that a few mechanical things went wrong that have been corrected since (motor mounts, strut tower brace, etc etc)

True story. I've replaced front wheel bearings on my 2013 and I've seen a few reports of people needing to change them every 50k almost on a 2013 and 2014. Hoping I'm not one of those, but it doesn't seem to be consistent across all 2013/14 model years so hopefully it doesn't turn into a reoccurring issue. Anyone know if they revised these parts after a limited run produced issues?

[Ze_Nardo6]

lol you keep saying "if you're a detail orientated person".. I'm a software developer. I literally measure the space between the end of the table and my table lamps to make sure they're all aligned equally (uneven margins drive me insane).

It's a facelift generation because the interior and most of the exterior remains the same. The difference being the front and rear headlights and slight changes to the bumpers. Everything between the bumpers did not change. Being detail orientated also means knowing the details in the (English language) words you use to describe something. [>_<]

Also, OP is talking about an S7 not an S6.

For someone who measures their table lamp positions, I would have thought changes to headlights, taillights and the bumpers would change the look of a car enough to spot the differences...and that's just the exterior aesthetics. The upgraded tech, sport exhaust and black optics package (not available for 2013) made a big difference to me as well in my decision. Starting to come off a bit bitter there. Enough digression.

[zcd2.7t]

...The reason I'm even looking at the Merc is I've already had a few Audi's but never tried BMW/Mercedes and the interior on the C350 is very nice...

They're obviously both very nice cars, so it's a personal preference thing. If you like the looks of the S7 (and it IS after all, more unique-looking), then keep looking for the right one.

As for the wood trim, I don't mind it at all. I have CF, but would have been fine with either of the wood-trim options, too.

I think the C-class's interior quality isn't what it appears to be at first glance. The materials don't feel as solid as they should, IMO. I also find the design to be a bit busy, but again, that's a personal preference thing.

Finally, are you an MB guy, or not? I've always thought that I wasn't, but the newest versions at least have me looking at them, whereas I hadn't bothered in the previous decade...

Good luck with your search!

[ericw.]

For someone who measures their table lamp positions, I would have thought changes to headlights, taillights and the bumpers would change the look of a car enough to spot the differences...and that's just the exterior aesthetics. The upgraded tech, sport exhaust and black optics package (not available for 2013) made a big difference to me as well in my decision. Starting to come off a bit bitter there. Enough digression.

There were no changes in headlights, bumpers, options, or anything else from 2013 to 2014 with the S7.... That only exists in S6, which isn't the subject here. C7.5(?) S7 started in 2016.

[Ze_Nardo6]

Also, and I'm trying not to offend the '13 owners here with this, but a fair amount has changed in the last few years and it's really beginning to show on the '13s. I'd stick to finding a c7.5 and consider the 6 in there with it for the obvious price difference.



This.


I didn't agree nor say anything about the differences between 2013 vs 2014/2015 models because the differences are negligible. I was agreeing to the fact that a C7.5 is quite a leap from the C7 if optioned properly (sports package, etc.).


There were no changes in headlights, bumpers, options, or anything else from 2013 to 2014 with the S7.... That only exists in S6, which isn't the subject here. C7.5(?) S7 started in 2016.

...I was clearly referencing the 6 and C7.5 the entire time. I understand the OP is considering the 7. I recommended possibly expanding his search to the 6 given his budget. Jsmonet commented above. I agreed. You made your passive-aggressive comment towards me/us. I responded. I'm over this. Apologies OP

[ericw.]

...I was clearly referencing the 6 the entire time. I understand the OP is considering the 7. I recommended possibly expanding his search to the 6 given his budget. Jsmonet commented above. I agreed. You made your passive-aggressive comment towards me/us. I responded. I'm over this. Apologies OP

Oh jeez, so easily offended.. This is a car forum where competition is the basis for all things we do here. lol, thanks for the clarification finally. Now I can rest easy knowing I didn't miss any options and my S7 isn't inferior, and OP knows he can look at 2013 S7's with confidence. [;)]

This guy didn't help...

2014 S7 so you can get the led lights.

And the guy who posted after him which coupled S6/7 into the same group of this 2014 facelift year that actually isn't related to the S7.

Bad data in, bad data out. It effects everyone, not just enterprise software. [:D]

[Ze_Nardo6]

Oh jeez, so easily offended.. This is a car forum where competition is the basis for all things we do here. lol, thanks for the clarification finally. Now I can rest easy knowing I didn't miss any options and my S7 isn't inferior, and OP knows he can look at 2013 S7's with confidence. [;)]

This guy didn't help...


And the guy who posted after him which coupled S6/7 into the same group of this 2014 facelift year that actually isn't related to the S7.

Bad data in, bad data out. It effects everyone, not just enterprise software. [:D]

Lol not offended. Keep your confidence in your S7!

[Albertaoil]

I would like to thank everyone for their input and no need to apologize for the debating.

I tried looking for the S6's and there are even less of those fo sale. lol.

Lots of good points in this thread and I'm not in a rush so when the right car comes along I'll pounce!

I leaning toward the C450 to be honest now, mainly because I haven't owned one before. That being said up until 6 months ago my GF owned a 2013 C63 AMG. I wasn't a fan of anything but the power in that car, like my S4 way better over all but the new gen Merc's are nice IMO.

I found a lease take over for a 450 with only 10 months remaining so that might be the perfect solution to try one. the guy wants out bad so its a sweet deal too. Never been a fan of leasing but maybe I'll try it this time.....

[Ze_Nardo6]

I found a lease take over for a 450 with only 10 months remaining so that might be the perfect solution to try one. the guy wants out bad so its a sweet deal too. Never been a fan of leasing but maybe I'll try it this time.....

Depending on the deal that sounds like a winner...a short term lease is perfect for a trial run.

[Sanjman]

Yes, I'm leaning toward the S7, room isn't really an issue as I have 2 other vehicles and this would be a toy/road trip car.
There aren't many good options for the S7 on the used market but the C450 I pretty much have my pick.
The reason I'm even looking at the Merc is I've already had a few Audi's but never tried BMW/Mercedes and the interior on the C350 is very nice.
What ever car I end up with will get a tune, from what I've read the number are similar for both.
Decisions, decisions.
If you're looking for a fun toy C63 :)

[jorgemachete]

Haha, Im one of those guys. I just ordered a 2017 S7. I went with exclusive exterior suzuka gray and interior saddle brown with the ingrained wood interior. I know its a sports sedan but my point isn't really to look like a sports sedan but to simply feel like one. I prefer the luxurious look as opposed to the sports look. But thats just me.

[jorgemachete]

"god awful wood trim inside"

Sorry but LOL !! I just don't get why anyone would want any kind of wood trim in a sport sedan!! I too have seen some horrific wood trim options that Audi offers! I wonder how many Audis that are custom ordered are with any type of wood trim?

Haha, Im one of those guys. I just ordered a 2017 S7. I went with exclusive exterior suzuka gray and interior saddle brown with the ingrained wood interior. I know its a sports sedan but my point isn't really to look like a sports sedan but to simply feel like one. I prefer the luxurious look as opposed to the sports look. But thats just me.

[Albertaoil]

Haha, Im one of those guys. I just ordered a 2017 S7. I went with exclusive exterior suzuka gray and interior saddle brown with the ingrained wood interior. I know its a sports sedan but my point isn't really to look like a sports sedan but to simply feel like one. I prefer the luxurious look as opposed to the sports look. But thats just me.

I'm jealous, that car sounds like the exact car I want, minus the wood, lol. Each to there own and congrats on the awesome ride.

[Albertaoil]

If you're looking for a fun toy C63 :)

Had one via the GF, fast car for sure but a little to "much" for me.

[Barritia]

I am one who prefers the wood over the carbon. I love stuff made out of carbon but it feels takey on these luxury vehicles. I fully understand why people paint over it. I don't like dark grained woods but I love the wood pin striped dash and center console. Really feels classy in the S6 and you don't see hardly any with it.

[Sanjman]

I am one who prefers the wood over the carbon. I love stuff made out of carbon but it feels takey on these luxury vehicles. I fully understand why people paint over it. I don't like dark grained woods but I love the wood pin striped dash and center console. Really feels classy in the S6 and you don't see hardly any with it.
Are the carbon Atlas inlays even real carbon fiber?

[Albertaoil]

I am one who prefers the wood over the carbon. I love stuff made out of carbon but it feels takey on these luxury vehicles. I fully understand why people paint over it. I don't like dark grained woods but I love the wood pin striped dash and center console. Really feels classy in the S6 and you don't see hardly any with it.
I do like the pin strip one too. Perhaps I should of been more specific, it was like a birch colored wood you would see in a VW.

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[Barritia]

Are the carbon Atlas inlays even real carbon fiber?

I would hope so. Hard to tell with these carbon wraps now. They look so real unless you 2ft from them.

[HamidsVikes]

I don't know what your other car is...
but ... anyway to throw that in the mix and get a RS7?


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[jsmonet]

Coming back to this after a number of twenty hour days, I'd say s7 over c450 if the s7 was loaded and the c was a stripper.

I said c7.5 because the interior is more attractive, the mmi is more responsive, and the led headlights are more attractive. Beyond that, you're looking at a minor bump in power over the prior half generation--but not enough to be a big deal.

Yes it is real carbon. The pinstripe wood is sexier. I have the carbon. I'm not upset.

If the new c does nothing for you, that disqualifies it right away. No reason to even bother. I drove the s6 on my way to drive a c63s and changed my plans. Trust yourself. If you get in a car and it feels right, buy it.


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[moonlights4]

I am one who prefers the wood over the carbon. I love stuff made out of carbon but it feels takey on these luxury vehicles. I fully understand why people paint over it. I don't like dark grained woods but I love the wood pin striped dash and center console. Really feels classy in the S6 and you don't see hardly any with it.

Had the layered aluminum/black wood inlays in my last S4. Best inlays hands down. Wish my new S6 had it, but I've grown to enjoy the oak inlays in it. Agree wood is better than aluminum or carbon in my book, but to each his own...


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[Street Nasty]

Are the carbon Atlas inlays even real carbon fiber?
Yes. It's not made entirely out of carbon, but the inlays is real cf.

[ericw.]

Yes. It's not made entirely out of carbon, but the inlays is real cf.

Yep, 'Carbon Atlas' is real carbon and they're all made in a similar way. The material whether it's carbon atlas or layered aluminum or <insert your trim> is on top of a composite plastic backing which has the tabs to hold the trim in it's place.

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You'd have to be crazy to paint over carbon atlas inlays because the value of these inlays will always hold.. Look at any past model Audi and you'll see that OEM carbon trim is hard to find, and car owners are willing to pay a lot of money to people like oCarbon to recreate their trim with carbon fiber when OEM is not available or too expensive. There would be a line around the block of A7 owners willing to swap wood trim + cash with anyone before they paint their carbon fiber so please consider this option before ruining some perfectly good atlas inlays. [;)]

[b6onboost]

I think the only reason to possibly choose the C450 is to try something different. The S7 is just a better overall car in pretty much every category.

[jorgemachete]

Hey all, since the S7 was a topic of discussion, I have a quick question. Does the grill on the S7 differ from the baseline A7 other than the badging? I just took notice of the grid like back of the grill on the S7. Don't know if that was just a one off or not.

[amelen]

Hey all, since the S7 was a topic of discussion, I have a quick question. Does the grill on the S7 differ from the baseline A7 other than the badging? I just took notice of the grid like back of the grill on the S7. Don't know if that was just a one off or not.

Having owned the A7 and now the S6, there are 4 versions between them: A7, A7 Prestige, S6, S6 Black Optics. All different grills. I think the A7 also comes with a Black Optics version now, but it didn't when I owned it.

[jorgemachete]

Having owned the A7 and now the S6, there are 4 versions between them: A7, A7 Prestige, S6, S6 Black Optics. All different grills. I think the A7 also comes with a Black Optics version now, but it didn't when I owned it.

Interesting. I ordered an 17' S7 prestige. I expected the grill to be the same as my 16' A7 prestige. Maybe I'm being a stickler but I personally liked the the simple chrome front lines on my A7 prestige. Not too big a fan of that grid looking grill. In pictures I've seen with black optic it doesn't look as evident but I didn't order that. Guess I'll have to wait till its delivered to address that.

[jsmonet]

aaaand then some people throw an RS grill on there too haha

[mjfloyd1]

Drive them both and buy what you like.

This is an Audi forum so I'd expect most to say S7!