View Full Version : came accros these pictures of my 2000 A6 2.7t timing belt weekend
goblues38
01-06-2017, 07:28 AM
in hind sight...i should have paid audi to do it. 3 days in 2007 I will never get back.
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4rings2turbos
01-06-2017, 10:47 AM
Just think of all that character you built...
chris86vw
01-06-2017, 10:58 AM
Just think of all that character you built...
3 days for a timing belt is a LOT of character!
I've got a few days in 2007 I don't want back, OP you can have mine :)
4rings2turbos
01-06-2017, 01:17 PM
Hahaha
Not as bad as the first time I did a timing belt. I did it in an unlevel parking lot without jackstands and had to wait on tools and parts a few different times. It was the second thing I ever did on a car and it took more than two weeks. Or the one time I fought for probably 20-25 hours (not straight) on a pinch bolt. Or the time I did cam chain tensioners in the winter in a garage that was maybe 30° F and when I fired it up the rattle was still there...
Sometimes these cars suck to own haha.
rollerton
01-06-2017, 02:42 PM
Oh! OH! I wanna play.
Swapped the power steering pump on this white S6 I have FOUR times I think. Eventually realized it was the serpentine belt roller (right under the pump) making all the whining noise.
Tell you what, I can swap a ps pump on a V8 on my lunch hour now and not even get my hands dirty!
I've done worse. Luckily most of those records pre-date the internet or have been expunged.
4rings2turbos
01-06-2017, 03:27 PM
Ahhhh, should have sent you the roller too then. I'm the same way with a timing belt job on the 2.7T. I chased rough idle for months on my first allroad. Can probably do a tb job in a few hours.
Jesse_Boyer
01-06-2017, 05:46 PM
Oh! OH! I wanna play.
Swapped the power steering pump on this white S6 I have FOUR times I think. Eventually realized it was the serpentine belt roller (right under the pump) making all the whining noise.
Tell you what, I can swap a ps pump on a V8 on my lunch hour now and not even get my hands dirty!
How about that time I installed a salvage yard ALH in my '02 TDI, including a new timing belt kit, clutch, etc, only to find out upon starting it up the engine was junk (bad bearings.) I yanked it out, went back to the yard fairly upset, and they un-apologetically gave me another engine. I wasn't thrilled at the time I lost, one-time parts used, etc.
roller, we should talk about that PS pump adventure as mine is making all sorts of noise as of late. How did you figure out if it was the roller or the pump, other than swapping pumps over and over again? Did the roller seem faulty when you spun it?
rollerton
01-06-2017, 06:38 PM
Well. I think I had gone through the 3rd used pump and the whining sound hadn't changed AT ALL. I said to myself, "self .. The fuck is the deal here?"
And eventually crawled under and pushed on the idler wheel with a screwdriver and the noise stopped instantly. Inspecting it manually, spinning, whatever, it seemed to be perfectly fine. And even at idle didn't make much noise, but higher engine speed and under load it whines just like a bad steering pump, and it's only 6" away underneath it. So.. As usual, go with the obvious solution first, it's usually right.
Sent you a pm-- but here's your 4.2 steering pump solution. Black one is OEM 4.2, silver is Audi 100 pump.
The price difference is about $310.
100% interchangeable.
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chris86vw
01-07-2017, 07:01 AM
Ok so since it has turned into that..
Mk6 gti, swapping out a Spec clutch with single mass aluminum flywheel since some magazine people were going to drive it and they didn't want the noise coming up in the review. Also doing a wavetrac while its out. I did not initially install the spec clutch initially so there was a key part I didn't know about.
Got a deal on a new dual mass flywheel and a sachs racing clutch used in some spec series in europe, doesn't come with a throw out bearing, not a big deal the one on there is only a few months old. I do the diff, someone puts the clutch on and we throw the trans up. We button it all up I go to pull it off the lift and nothing, clutch won't engage.
I had to go out of town so it gets pulled by someone else, they guess without checking the very easy thing, that the splines on the disc are wrong and order a new disk, nothing else. I get back, check that ok good, throw new trans in, button it up... nope still not engaging! (an incorrect disc was shipped between the first and second actually but noticed before it was isntalled, splined for like a 1.4tsi)
Entirely new stock clutch not another risk of it being the wrong race part shows up, new DMF, and a new throw out bearing... put it all together works great.
Now remember I didn't install that initial spec clutch didn't see what it came with..
Fast forward about 2 years and I'm finally putting my A3 back together. Somehow the throw out bearing from the spec clutch had ended up in my pile of parts. I'm like ok 80k throw out bearing or this almost brand new shiny one here laying in my tool box. I bolt it up with my earlier spec clutch (important) and finish the car up. This car hasn't moved in 6 years, I hope in all excited put it in reverse.. nothing won't engage!!! I'm on a deadline so I say screw it just order an entirely new clutch kit. This comes with a throw out bearing, I use that but as I'm putting it all together I notice something about the one I had used.. There's a fkn aluminum spacer pressed onto it!!!
Early spec 2.0t clutches the height of the flywheel and PP forks were lower so the put a spacer on the pressure plate itself. The later ones they machined a spacer to fit onto the throw out bearing. So on the mk6 gti the problem was using stock height PP and flywheel with the throw out bearing that had a spacer, on my A3 it was the combination of old PP installed spacer and new tob installed spacer.
So one throw out bearing ended up with 3+ clutches being ordered and a trans being pulled about a half dozen times..
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