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A1 A2 German
12-22-2016, 02:22 AM
EDIT #1: Updated post #20, skip there for new content.

EDIT #2: Thread has been moved here: https://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/779148-B5-01X-and-02X-Conversion-Thread

No need to add material to this one

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'97 Audi A4 B5 Fronttrak (Front wheel drive) 6 speed conversion.


I picked up another oem B5 transmission with the intention of having the guts cryo dipped. However there's no guarantee this would solve the problem of 3rd and chewing away at the gear.

I considering a modified S4 B5 Quattro to fwd conversion yet sounds sketchy. Started talking with Andyrew and he's been interested in a GVT 6 speed from a A4 B7 Fronttrak. Surprisingly, no one has ever done this, that I can find.

So I found a GVT, 74k miles, and looks like it's a go. I maybe about to simply swap axel cups, and boom.....no need to worry about axles and keep B5 stuff.

I'm converting to the uniform Quattro subframe, either way may or may not have to make transmission mounts (to subframe). If so no biggie.

If anyone for sees any huge issues speak up.

b5a4erik
12-25-2016, 10:30 AM
hm. [wrench][up]

Nollywood
12-25-2016, 11:22 AM
You'll need the following:

B6 FWD 6-speed manual gearbox.
B6 Quattro front subframe, from 02X gearbox model.
B6 6-speed manual shifter.
B6 FWD axles.

The B5 FWD and B6 FWD output flanges are not interchangeable. You'll have to use the B6 FWD axles, with the matching flanges in the B6 6-speed FWD gearbox. If you must get the shifter from a different B6, and it's a Quattro, make sure it's from a 1.8T or 3.0 from 2003 onwards. Early 3.0 6-speed manual gearboxes are 01E, and have a different shifter. Later models are 02X, and will work with the B6 FWD 6-speed manual.

It's actually a lot easier to use an 01E 6-speed FWD gearbox, from a B5 / C5 2.5 V6 TDI. It's a Getrag unit, and a lot more robust than the cheese and butter light-duty 01X 6-speed FWD gearbox used in B6 models.

A1 A2 German
12-25-2016, 02:05 PM
Thanks

The only 01E in the US I can find is $1,800 plus shipping and is 100% untouched (used, not inspected/rebuilt). In addition from what I understand the gearing is terrible for a 1.8t.

Will the B6 axles fit the B5 hubs and uprights?

Nollywood
12-25-2016, 02:59 PM
B6 axles will fit B5 V6 hubs, and 1.8T from 1999-2001 (larger wheel bearings).

A1 A2 German
12-25-2016, 03:03 PM
Thanks and dam.

Can I swap 2.8 V6 hubs into my '97 uprights with '97 bearings?

Nollywood
12-25-2016, 03:13 PM
Thanks and dam.

Can I swap 2.8 V6 hubs into my '97 uprights with '97 bearings?

I'm not sure if you can swap the larger V6 / facelift 1.8T hubs and bearings into your '97 uprights. You might have to replace the entire upright. Saying that though, FWD cars are different to AWD as far as front driveline components are concerned.

FWD cars have larger gearbox output flanges, 108mm, same as the B5 S4. Non-S4 Quattro models with gasoline engines have 100mm flanges. It's possible your car has the larger 82mm wheel bearings too.

A1 A2 German
12-25-2016, 03:30 PM
Well, guess I'll find a donor and grab the entire uprights, and axles and play mix-o-match.

*Crap.

Just thought about my AP Racing B5 kit, I just spent 2 weeks rebuilding and ceramic coating each individual piece and ordering parts from Europe.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/Blakelikesfood333/20161204_233823_zpsjzzsz2jf.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/Blakelikesfood333/media/20161204_233823_zpsjzzsz2jf.jpg.html)

andyrew
12-27-2016, 08:47 AM
I'm not sure if you can swap the larger V6 / facelift 1.8T hubs and bearings into your '97 uprights. You might have to replace the entire upright. Saying that though, FWD cars are different to AWD as far as front driveline components are concerned.

FWD cars have larger gearbox output flanges, 108mm, same as the B5 S4. Non-S4 Quattro models with gasoline engines have 100mm flanges. It's possible your car has the larger 82mm wheel bearings too.

On the B5 FWD unit the output flanges are swappable. I have output flanges from a Boxster on my setup, but I needed 100mm flanges.


Also, The GVT transmission is from a B7, NOT a b6. Based on my research it is NOT the same as the B6's fragile 01X. Its the same year the Boxster/Cayman upgraded their transmission to be much stronger, and thats why I want to try that in my setup.

Nollywood
12-27-2016, 09:36 AM
On the B5 FWD unit the output flanges are swappable. I have output flanges from a Boxster on my setup, but I needed 100mm flanges.


Also, The GVT transmission is from a B7, NOT a b6. Based on my research it is NOT the same as the B6's fragile 01X. Its the same year the Boxster/Cayman upgraded their transmission to be much stronger, and thats why I want to try that in my setup.

I understand.

But, the Boxster runs a variation of Audi's 01E, hence the output flanges are interchangeable. The B6/B7 output flanges are not interchangeable with those of the B5's 012/01A.

Crispy222
12-27-2016, 11:32 AM
To run the B6 axles, you need to run the larger outer bearing (82mm) and associated upright from a 2001 B5A4 V6, 2001-2005 Passat (1.8t or 2.8), B5S4, or C5A6 2.7t. The first 2 options will have the same caliper mounting ears as your '97 B5A4.

A1 A2 German
12-27-2016, 01:44 PM
I found a junk yard car, but but but that's a B7 in the photo, explains why and why I couldn't source a parts car in B6 Classifieds.

Alright, thanks for the info everyone!


So I'd source 5 Speed O1X Fronttrak B6 axles to run on the B7 GVT? Or shall I look into running B7 axles/making a hybrid?

Creechy
12-30-2016, 03:03 AM
There's no speedometer drive on the B6/B7 gearbox's as there is on the B5. You'd need get around that problem if swapping to a later model gearbox.

Nollywood
12-30-2016, 04:38 AM
There's no speedometer drive on the B6/B7 gearbox's as there is on the B5. You'd need get around that problem if swapping to a later model gearbox.

I forgot about this, too.

I would strongly consider importing an European 01E FWD.

A1 A2 German
12-30-2016, 09:40 AM
I found 01E's from diesels in the UK, ~$550 shipped.

I erased all my links but believe all from A6's (what else are there?). So if I went 01E, what do I do about axles, uprights/hubs and shift box/shift rods?

1) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/192050821570

Nollywood
12-30-2016, 12:49 PM
You simply use A4 B5 2.5 TDI V6 axles, uprights and shifter.

A1 A2 German
01-09-2017, 12:58 PM
So my only 01E option is the UK (Europe) O1E from an A6 TDI correct? (And not use those same cars axles, shifter, uprights?)


And my only option axle, shifter and uprights (if sourcing those from a single car) would be the UK/Europe A4 B5 2.5TDI V6?


Transmissions

1) http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-AUDI-SKODA-2000-2006-1-9-TDI-AVF-130-BHP-6-SPEED-MANUAL-FRK-GEARBOX-01E300047-/302186396831?hash=item465bb67c9f%3Ag%3A4HsAAOSwZQR Ya~-0&_trkparms=pageci%253A2e25defe-d6b4-11e6-897b-005056974c58%257Cparentrq%253A852c82521590a2ab9231 617effc6d2f8%257Ciid%253A7 From a 1.9L

2) http://m.ebay.com/itm/192050821570?rmvSB=true&ul_ref=http%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F1%2F7 11-53200-19255-0%2F1%3Ftype%3D3%26campId%3D5336794520%26toolId%3D 10001%26customId%3Dixqm7g3z52000ck100004%26mpre%3D http%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.com%252Fitm%252F192050 821570%26srcrot%3D711-53200-19255-0%26rvr_id%3D1151253206781&_mwBanner=1&ul_noapp=true 2.5 TDI

3) http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006-AUDI-A4-2-0-TDI-6-SPEED-MANUAL-GEARBOX-FROM-A-BLB-ENGINE-/201775161534?hash=item2efabca0be%3Ag%3AKNYAAOSwjVV VrOo~&_trkparms=pageci%253A4c899b37-d6b5-11e6-855b-74dbd1e097cb%257Cparentrq%253A8533d7331590a548a1be dfeeffc5740f%257Ciid%253A17 2.0 TDI

Crispy222
01-10-2017, 06:01 AM
I don't think the '06 A4 TDI box is an 01E, Looks like the 01X, like the 1.8t have here in the US.

A1 A2 German
01-11-2017, 08:36 AM
I don't think the '06 A4 TDI box is an 01E, Looks like the 01X, like the 1.8t have here in the US.


You are correct sir, it was an O1X.

Anyone have any thoughts on the first two verse each other?

A1 A2 German
04-20-2017, 06:18 PM
Looking for an 01E FWD 6 Speed in Europe:


1) Via U.K. Ebay, there's variations of the 01E which in many times they won't even mention 01E and say HXN, FHB, QJY, (just examples) etc etc as they feel the need to not mention it even though has an 01E stamped on it....so what 3 letter code do I want to search for opposed to or in addition to seeing an 01E on the housing (which will expand my search results)?

2) And, what is the exact car I want to use, to use those search words to locate the desired 01E 6 Speed FWD? Still a B5 C5 2.5 V6 TDI?




Option #1: ? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AUDI-SKODA-VW-SEAT-GEARBOX-6-SPEED-DQS-FWD-2-5-V6-DIESEL-/282409005633?hash=item41c0e37241:g:1~4AAOSwB-1Yrao6


Option #2: ? http://www.ebay.com/itm/122442040576?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
From a ~130bhp diesel '04 Passat & confirmed it's an O1E

OverSpun
04-20-2017, 08:24 PM
If I missed...

reason why converting to FWD?

A1 A2 German
04-20-2017, 08:30 PM
If I missed...reason why converting to FWD?

Converting from 5 speed Fronttrak to 6 speed Fronttrak [race]

OverSpun
04-20-2017, 08:33 PM
Converting from 5 speed Fronttrak to 6 speed Fronttrak [race]

Oh, I see now. I thought you were converting quattro to fwd. [:D]

Mattr567
04-20-2017, 09:25 PM
Not planning to do this to my car anytime soon but very interesting project. No one has ever done this before.

Subbed.

b5a4erik
04-23-2017, 09:11 AM
was thinking about this the other day... [rolleyes][up]

walky_talky20
04-23-2017, 08:30 PM
I think using a North American market transmission and just building a circuit to convert one of the ABS wheel speed sensor signals into an appropriate VSS signal would be easier than importing an entire European transmission and whatever bits you need to hook it up. Something like a Dakota Digital SGI-5 might do the trick.

Just my 2 cents.

Also, you needn't limit yourself to just FWD transmissions. You can always weld the center differential to make a quattro work as FWD.

A1 A2 German
04-24-2017, 01:23 PM
Thanks

Importing an European transmission isn't too bad, alot of their 01E's are Buy-It-Now for ~$225 (seen alot at this price) plus an estimated $175-225 for shipping to the US. As where a USA B7 GVT transmission generally goes for ~$550 and up, plus what ever shipping to get it to Phoenix. However I did find an old ball low price once for $330 shipped to a local area parts yard (not being cheap or complaining about pricing, just showing UK vs US aren't too far off from each other or almost a wash).

If using a North American version transmission and a Dakota SGI-5E (+ $89) there's one slight problem....is it's warned in detail to avoid using any ABS signals (wheel speed sensor) for this unit. I called to verify and said don't do it. However, they said I ditch the Dakota SGI-5E and.......go with their GPS unit:

However.....

http://www.dakotadigital.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=837/category_id=646/mode=prod/prd837.htm

...it's $200. Once again, you have to pay to play but something to consider...plus uncharated ground....as adding and interfacing a GPS converter to my speedo, to my "never been done trans". As a UK unit, bolts right up and has the oem VSS to plug into.

What I need to know is Post #20, what exact version of 01E and/or from which exact car. However, now a USA B7 GVT trans (with a Dakota GPS might be back on the table).

Per the B5 S4 trans, I really haven't looked into it other then many saying "super sketchy", "no way man", .....but on the other hand what does anybody know if hasn't been done before (that I know of). Also to note, builders are buying up these European FWD 01E 6 Speeds like hot cakes! To note, they use them for mid engine V8 builds, not on Audis. Everyone I have posted about (except the last 2, 2 days ago) have been sold and on the way to the US...even all the ones I didn't link on here yet personally Bookmarked sold. So it has me thinking why import a UK trans from 8,000 miles when you could weld a US B5 S4?

walky_talky20
04-24-2017, 01:42 PM
I think the cheaper Dakota box could probably work. You aren't changing the ABS signal. You are just tapping it. I think their warning is for vehicles which use the ABS sensor for VSS. (Like a B6 A4). If you put that box in-line to tweak the signal (so as to make a Speedometer correction) you will have major troubles for sure. But you would just be tapping the ABS sensor - so the sensor still feeds the ABS module directly, but also feeds the Dakota box. If the input impedance is appropriately high, it should not bother anything. Just like putting your Digital Multi-Meter or Scope on a wheel speed sensor while driving. You would expect to see the signal, and you would not expect the ABS functions to be adversely affected by simply tapping them to monitor.

What is "super sketchy"? Welding the torsen? People do that all the time to make RWD A4's. It's a bit of a sacrilege to destroy the magic quattro pieces, but I wouldn't say its "sketchy" unless your welds are "sketchy". People weld diffs all the time for drifting and what have you.

A1 A2 German
04-24-2017, 02:07 PM
I guess I'll contact Dakota again to inform them there's a difference of how the ABS sensors vary between platforms, and see what they have to say.

As it's supposedly "sketchy" to weld to make the B5 S4 transmission a FWD. As far as converting to RWD, I don't see anything negative other then people complaining about destroying the Quattro.

walky_talky20
04-24-2017, 02:25 PM
I would think it's sketchier (more sketchy?) to convert an 01E to RWD than FWD. The original design of this VW transaxle layout was just for FWD and the AWD bit was just tacked on in the 80's. Also, the 01E comes FWD with nearly all the same internal parts and is meant to take the entire load through the front differential. But there is certainly no factory version where all the power goes out the tail. The case is never tested that way, etc.

A1 A2 German
04-24-2017, 03:55 PM
As of April 2017: It appears there's 3 avenues to turn a 5 Speed Fronttrak into a 6 speed Fronttrak (Do note: The entire reasoning for the swap is to overcome sheering of the oem 5 speed gears, which also gets a bonus extra gear out of the swap by default).


Option #1: Import a European FWD 01E 6-Speed

Price: Call it $500 shipped

Notes: We are currently unsure of the true Euro 01E to look for, as there are a few variations of 01E's in Europe. Done many times for mid engine V8 builds, never been done in a Fronttrak before.

Option #2: Install a B7 A4 FWD GVT Code 6-Speed, use a Dakota SGI-S E signal adapter tapped into ABS sensor to use to send signal to speedo as a GVT does not have a VSS plug like a B5 trans does.

Price: $600(+) GVT + $85 Dakota SGI-5 E

Notes: Never been done before


Option #3: North American Quattro B5 S4 01E, welded to delete rear output shaft.

Price: $(Not sure haven't looked)

Notes: Never been done before


To note all three: There will be most likely a blend of hardware (axles, uprights, or maybe as simply as swaping your oem hub bearing to a different size, to except the blend of axles to upright compatibility).

So...three opitions....hmmmmm

mysman
04-25-2017, 02:31 PM
Isn't option #3 about 40 lbs heavier?

andyrew
04-26-2017, 04:36 PM
As of April 2017: It appears there's 3 avenues to turn a 5 Speed Fronttrak into a 6 speed Fronttrak (Do note: The entire reasoning for the swap is to overcome sheering of the oem 5 speed gears, which also gets a bonus extra gear out of the swap by default).


Option #1: Import a European FWD 01E 6-Speed

Price: Call it $500 shipped

Notes: We are currently unsure of the true Euro 01E to look for, as there are a few variations of 01E's in Europe. Done many times for mid engine V8 builds, never been done in a Fronttrak before.

Option #2: Install a B7 A4 FWD GVT Code 6-Speed, use a Dakota SGI-S E signal adapter tapped into ABS sensor to use to send signal to speedo as a GVT does not have a VSS plug like a B5 trans does.

Price: $600(+) GVT + $85 Dakota SGI-5 E

Notes: Never been done before


Option #3: North American Quattro B5 S4 01E, welded to delete rear output shaft.

Price: $(Not sure haven't looked)

Notes: Never been done before


To note all three: There will be most likely a blend of hardware (axles, uprights, or maybe as simply as swaping your oem hub bearing to a different size, to except the blend of axles to upright compatibility).

So...three opitions....hmmmmm


Looks about right. if you can get a FWD 01E 6pd for 500 that WILL be your strongest option. Can you send me a link of one? Im curious what your searching for.

A1 A2 German
04-27-2017, 12:59 AM
Look at my Post #20 for options #1 and #2

If you or anyone wants to play, Google: UK Ebay (do not look on US Ebay). In addition, do not use the word "Transmission", use "Gearbox" instead. You can try Transmission but they generally don't use that word. Also they do not always mention O1E. So you'll have to look for anything "Audi, fwd, 6 speed.....". You may have to exclude the word Audi and use VW or Passat possibly. They also call these all kinds of things other then "O1E" even though it's stamped that on the trans (they always say something like Code JHT, RFG, ETR, etc etc). Post up what you find I have to buy one 5 months ago.

I believe a good target vehicle is a: ~1999ish A6 2.5 TDI FWD 6 Speed : however not 100% positive.


The two below are the same I believe, referred to as a "FPK 01E", one of these maybe the ticket.

#3: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/volkswagen-passat-b5-5-1-9-tdi-6-speed-gearbox-/272536696235?hash=item3f7473f5ab:g:4I8AAOSw4DJYi3a e

#4: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vw-Passat-b5-5-1-9tdi-sport-6-speed-manual-gearbox-fpk-Audi-A4-b6-genuine-/152497611517?hash=item238190e2fd:g:2CsAAOSwol5Y47N v



Might have a a winner here, out of an 2.5 TDI opposed to a 1.9 TDI, referred to as a "DQS 01E"

#5: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AUDI-A4-A6-2-5-TDI-GEARBOX-DQS-CODE-6-SPEED-/162459793445?hash=item25d35bb825:i:162459793445

Creechy
04-27-2017, 03:56 AM
The gearing will not be very good as its designed for a larger capacity TDI not a petrol engine. It's been done in the UK and from what I remember the results weren't great.

walky_talky20
04-27-2017, 08:40 AM
TDI's have long gears. You can use ETKA to get the gear ratios for all the codes. If you can get one from a gasoline engine, that will be better.

A1 A2 German
04-27-2017, 10:54 AM
Hmm, I wasn't aware there was non-TDI 6 speeds, in addition I thought the "Diesel" variable was what made them robust.

Which makes were 01E gas?




EDIT:

Found the mother of info regarding 01E's here: http://www.elektro.com/~audi/01E/ (a lot to sort through)



2wd 01E's from Europe: "The 2WD 6 speed cars were the V8's and A8's in Europe, around '92
to maybe '97"


Pertaining to converting a Quattro B5 S4 to 2wd: "Even with only half the total torque, the front ring gear or pinion
bearing fails. If you weld up the center differential and only take drive output through the front differential, you are then putting
ALL of the torque through the front ring & pinion, which will certainly, make it will fail MUCH faster."

andyrew
04-28-2017, 02:16 PM
Completely on topic. Im going to open my quattro 5speed 1.8 trani and see if its the same thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jStVWjNvKQw

walky_talky20
04-28-2017, 08:18 PM
^Those magical quattro "clutch packs". lol

A1 A2 German
05-03-2017, 03:13 PM
Well, I can't find squat, other then this popping out of no where on US Eaby:

Kinda of expensive, yet kinda not, considering brand new: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Genuine-VW-Audi-6-Speed-Manual-Transmission-Longitudinal-Mount-KTU-Code-/301950475904

However note haven't looked into it yet and/or KTU Code isn't reveling much online.

Apparently:

Car - Seat Exeo ~2010ish
Type of engine- Petrol
Engine capacity- 1,595 cc
Gearbox- 6-speed
Drive- Front wheel



Also:

I just found a B7 GVT tranmission with 68k miles, from a running and driving vehicle, for $215 + $50 shipping.

andyrew
05-05-2017, 12:58 PM
Well, I can't find squat, other then this popping out of no where on US Eaby:

Kinda of expensive, yet kinda not, considering brand new: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Genuine-VW-Audi-6-Speed-Manual-Transmission-Longitudinal-Mount-KTU-Code-/301950475904

However note haven't looked into it yet and/or KTU Code isn't reveling much online.

Apparently:

Car - Seat Exeo ~2010ish
Type of engine- Petrol
Engine capacity- 1,595 cc
Gearbox- 6-speed
Drive- Front wheel



Also:

I just found a B7 GVT tranmission with 68k miles, from a running and driving vehicle, for $215 + $50 shipping.

Awesome price on the GVT! Let me know if you pass on it.

A1 A2 German
05-05-2017, 01:15 PM
I called on it and I'll luk.

Do we confirmation of proper spine sizing/mating? Any one know of anything pertaining to the Ebay unit? I asked around to some ~professionals 5 months ago about the GVT idea, the response, "Why would you even ever do that transmission?" even though I stated why and got, "Don't bother...". But I don't see why not...it checks the boxes other then a VSS, and has wider gear sets to prevent teeth sheering. And the availability is awesome, it's noon and I could have the trans by 5 p.m. and they are available all day long. However I couldn't find any mid engine V8 builders using it....maybe it's the biggest secert going. People are snatching up the 01E FWDs diesels like hot cakes in Europe for the builds.

andyrew
05-05-2017, 01:52 PM
I spoke with a guy in head development for a number of spec boxster racing teams, He basically said to go with the boxster S trans from 2007 as it was stronger than the 2006 version.


Now I understand people telling us that the 01E is THE trans, And I get that.. But I agree with you that I think the GVT is a good enough choice for guys like us at our power, but especially our torque level. Your build nor my build will have much more than 425lbs of torque, and with the larger turbos the turbo ramp up is delayed significantly so we get a decent buffer so the drivetrain parts will take much less of a hit.

A1 A2 German
05-05-2017, 05:54 PM
Per Ebay 01X trans:

1) Shipping is +$165


And some interesting news

2) From a Seat Exeo, gasoline, which is supposedly their version of a............Audi A4 B7........hmmmmm

V70R
05-08-2017, 11:59 AM
Here's a search from car-part, looks to be a few near ya.

http://imageshack.com/a/img924/2192/EaSD1k.png

I am in the process of using an 02X for my B5, and I believe I have a resolution for the VSS hurdle. I'll upload part numbers and notes tonight. [up]

A1 A2 German
05-09-2017, 11:11 AM
Taps finger, refreshes page, taps finger, refreshes page [:D].

Sweet, the 02X is the Quattro B7 transmission?

Mattr567
05-09-2017, 11:18 AM
The Mk4 GTI 337 edition has a fwd 6spd.

Sent from my A0001 using Audizine mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)

V70R
05-09-2017, 11:31 AM
Yep! A fair amount of 02X parts interchange with the 01X.

02M 6spd trans used in Mk4 applications is transversely mounted, whereas 8D0/8E drive trains are longitudinal.

A1 A2 German
05-09-2017, 12:22 PM
Have you confirmed spline size/clearance/other variables to see if a B7 01X/02X will fit a 1.8t?

Do you currently have an 02X in your possession?

V70R
05-09-2017, 03:52 PM
Yep I have two 02X transmissions right now and an 01A from my B5; I will be removing the 01A very shortly to get a few more dimensions and photos. If you need any dimensions or photos of anything let me know! [up]

Tyler

A1 A2 German
05-09-2017, 05:07 PM
My current concern is if the trans spline while mate to a 1.8t block/clutch.

V70R
05-09-2017, 10:40 PM
Yep, same splines and it will mate to a 1.8T without issues. The 02X used in North American 2004-2008 A4 vehicles are essentially the same, for comparison it is much like 020 transaxles; each transaxle code may have specific gear ratios, but they are interchangeable. Here is an excel file I composed of the 02X transaxles, I plan on composing a similar file for 01X transaxles too.

http://imageshack.com/a/img924/4462/MwMIhx.png

andyrew
05-10-2017, 07:26 AM
Are first and second tied to the main shaft like the rest of the Audi transmissions?

walky_talky20
05-10-2017, 08:12 AM
...I believe I have a resolution for the VSS hurdle.


A fair amount of 02X parts interchange with the 01X.

So...if I see where you're going with this...01E side cover w/VSS on an 01X/02X? Maybe?

V70R
05-11-2017, 08:23 AM
So...if I see where you're going with this...01E side cover w/VSS on an 01X/02X? Maybe?

Haha pretty close! 01A differential/ side cover with VSS and tone ring in an 02X transaxle. From my research G86 transaxles (an 012 trans) used in Porsches use an 01X differential and pinion set, with an 012/01A tone ring and differential cover. Now I just need to get my old 01A and an 02X to swap stuff over and see if this will work. Axle flanges are specific to the vehicle it appears. I somewhat compiled my notes and part numbers seen below.

http://imageshack.com/a/img924/4403/QbU6rp.png

Nollywood
05-20-2017, 05:34 AM
The differential cover of the 01A doesn't interchange with the differential housing of the 01X.

However, there are universal VSS set-ups out there, that are fully programmable, to match your final drive and wheel diameter. That's the route I'll take.

V70R
05-24-2017, 01:08 AM
I'll review that tomorrow. 986 Boxster transaxles (G86) use the same differential cover as 012 and 01A transaxles, but a GFW-code G86 uses an 01X differential housing FWIW.

walky_talky20
05-24-2017, 04:13 AM
Mind potentially = blown. Do tell.

A1 A2 German
07-27-2017, 01:23 PM
Small update:

After over a year of waiting for a fabricated piece to show up in my hands last night, I finally called to purchase the $290 GVT transmission (with tax and shipping) 20 mins ago and.....it sold last week.....ha! However, not so worried as their GVT transmission was ~stripped. As in, everything pulled off of it, even the axle slash guards/metal guards and they had nothing else to go with it so could be a good thing not to get it (they didn't even have the car at all, just a bare trans sitting on a shelf). As there's bracket (s) and linkage/shift bars that bolt to it and I do not have a parts car to obtain this stuff from.

It's would be a billion times easier to find an ~intact A4 B7 Fronttrak 6 Speed MT car, and get both axles (with all hardware), full shift box (with all hardware), and an untouched non-stripped out GVT transmission. Getting a pair of axles with no hardware for my current B5 is not an issue, as you reuse your bolts if you choose, yet getting B7 axles bare bones turns into an expensive, wild time consuming, goose chase. I checked local Craigslist with no luck, and placed ads in Audizine and Vortex.

So it anyone is aware or knows of a parts car lmk.

Mattr567
04-25-2018, 01:14 PM
So there's an 08 B7 A4 2.0t manual fwd in my local junkyard. Complete, just in front end collision.

This thread is making me think.

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garytightpants
04-25-2018, 01:46 PM
So there's an 08 B7 A4 2.0t manual fwd in my local junkyard. Complete, just in front end collision.

This thread is making me think.

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I'll ship you my 01E. Center diff is already weldered up [;)]

Mattr567
04-25-2018, 03:59 PM
It's would be a billion times easier to find an ~intact A4 B7 Fronttrak 6 Speed MT car, and get both axles (with all hardware), full shift box (with all hardware), and an untouched non-stripped out GVT transmission. Getting a pair of axles with no hardware for my current B5 is not an issue, as you reuse your bolts if you choose, yet getting B7 axles bare bones turns into an expensive, wild time consuming, goose chase. I checked local Craigslist with no luck, and placed ads in Audizine and Vortex.

So it anyone is aware or knows of a parts car lmk.

I could get all of those things from that car. After some thinking, its good idea for me but wrong time.

Let me know!


I'll ship you my 01E. Center diff is already weldered up [;)]

Lol, for RWD? [>_<]

garytightpants
04-25-2018, 04:50 PM
I could get all of those things from that car. After some thinking, its good idea for me but wrong time.

Let me know!



Lol, for RWD? [>_<]

It would fwd for you. It works both ways


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A1 A2 German
04-25-2018, 09:45 PM
Thanks!



I continued this thread onto Tyler's conversion thread. I've already done the swap, now onto doing all the coolant lines, harness, etc so I can start it.




EDIT: Thread has been moved here:

https://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/779148-B5-01X-and-02X-Conversion-Thread

No need to add material to this one

V70R
04-25-2018, 10:33 PM
Cant read. Wong thread!