Let's talk Unitronics, and only Unitronics

[Sukks2bu]

For all those with Unitronics tunes, please feel free to post feedback, experiences, etc so we can have a thread we can use.
I am currently stage 2+ with Uniconect cable and have the dsg software as well, but not installed at the moment.

So far loving the stage 2 tune and my shifting is as good as stock was, with maybe a little more of an aggressive bite when in dynamic mode. But I love it.
Also if Garro looks at this thread, John mentioned to me that flashing the ecu after a tcu flash was not required.


Enjoy our Unitronics thread.

[brianc21]

I'm stage 2+ with the DSG tune. When in sport mode and going WOT, I'll get a blip in the revs just after the upshift. Hard to explain, but it's pretty much the same as the "APR bogging issue" thread that's been floating around. The rpms seem to flutter just after the shift. Anyone else seeing this?

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[Sukks2bu]

I saw something similar, only in sport mode, but didn't need to be wide open throttle.
My gears would shift at 3200 rpm, climb for a sec, then dip down and continue with the climb. Power delivery wasn't exactly linear.
Only occurred with tcu tune though.
Once I reverted back to stock dsg tune, the issue went away.

[protogeoff]

What about EPL? Is this a good tune?
;P

Seriously though, been considering Unitronics and Revo so looking forward to people's experiences with the Uni tune.

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[brianc21]

What about EPL? Is this a good tune?
;P

Seriously though, been considering Unitronics and Revo so looking forward to people's experiences with the Uni tune.

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Never had an issue with either tune, ECU or TCU. The issue I described I think is occurring from several tuners. Overall the tunes seem strong. I've been stage 2 for about 2 years now, TCU tuned since its release. Flash from home is great and is the primary reason I went this route.

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[John@Unitronic]

For all those with Unitronics tunes, please feel free to post feedback, experiences, etc so we can have a thread we can use.
I am currently stage 2+ with Uniconect cable and have the dsg software as well, but not installed at the moment.

So far loving the stage 2 tune and my shifting is as good as stock was, with maybe a little more of an aggressive bite when in dynamic mode. But I love it.
Also if Garro looks at this thread, John mentioned to me that flashing the ecu after a tcu flash was not required.


Enjoy our Unitronics thread.

Thanks for your feedback! To be clear, after you flash the TCU with our Performance Software, it is NECESSARY to reflash the ECU with the corresponding file labeled "FOR USE WITH UNITRONIC TCU SOFTWARE". You will see two files; one with that label and one without that label.


I'm stage 2+ with the DSG tune. When in sport mode and going WOT, I'll get a blip in the revs just after the upshift. Hard to explain, but it's pretty much the same as the "APR bogging issue" thread that's been floating around. The rpms seem to flutter just after the shift. Anyone else seeing this?

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Possible to grab me a video of this symptom occurring? With these types of situations, it's always easiest to help with a video.

[bhvrdr]

I was very pleased with their stage 2 tune. The TCU tune was not available at the time and I'm still not sure if I would use anyones TCU tune. Their stage 2 tune had pretty tight boost targets that kept the bypass valve closed 100% and the timing seemed conservative for their 93 octane fuel program which allowed me to run their program designed for those with added cooling on my stock cooling car even in S Florida. That program's timing seemed spot on for the quality of fuel I get here. Power delivery was nice and smooth. Ran an 11.8x on a pretty much stock car (stage 2 with intake) on 93 octane. The flash at home worked flawlessly.

Mike

[brianc21]

Thanks for your feedback! To be clear, after you flash the TCU with our Performance Software, it is NECESSARY to reflash the ECU with the corresponding file labeled "FOR USE WITH UNITRONIC TCU SOFTWARE". You will see two files; one with that label and one without that label.



Possible to grab me a video of this symptom occurring? With these types of situations, it's always easiest to help with a video.
Yea I'll grab one later on today and email it to you. Thanks.

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[TexasDfwS4]

I've had Uni for two years and the TCU when it came out as well and I love the tunes. it works great and stable.

[mlavelle92]

There is a fix for the upshift issue from Audi, the 6MT.

[Sukks2bu]

There is a fix for the upshift issue from Audi, the 6MT.
Very useful thanks

[mlavelle92]

Very useful thanks

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[brianc21]

Someone else just posted in the DSG problem thread a video of the issue I was trying to describe. Very similar to mine, but I'll still try to pull a quick video.

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[Sukks2bu]

Just want to add, the folks at unitronics were very good at keeping their customer service top notch.
I have had a tcu tune now for longer then their return policy, but I didn't feel confident having anything other that the stock software on my car, and they were happy to give me a refund.
Excellent job guys.

[def]

That's nice to hear. I'm on the fence about the TCU tune and I feel rushed to make a decision. I don't get to drive my car out of traffic often unless its a weekend so you chew up 15 days pretty quick especially if you have family obligations. Hope they are as cool to me if I ask for one too.

[Sukks2bu]

I would suggest to go stage 2+ first, drive that around for awhile before going with the tcu tune.
Get to know your car with the new power and how it takes to it, then add the tcu software down the road. Yes it's s little more money but you will know for sure the difference it makes.

[TexasDfwS4]

We all had to do it the way Sukks2bu said by default but after hearing all the other forum members talk about their TCU tune I was close to getting one from another tuner. I'm glad I didn't, because the guys at Unitronic did a great job on theirs. I thought the ECU was great and for two years and 18,000 miles it was. The thing I overlooked was the smooth acceleration all the way up the power band. When it was just the ECU I would have to play with the throttle a little to get it right but with the TCU it just works.

[Sukks2bu]

You know, I wonder if because my car is a 2010 and I had the mechatronics replaced a little over a year ago it may have something to do with the way my car responded to the tcu tune.

[TexasDfwS4]

I would talk to John and see if there is something he knows.

[treejs4]

I too have had Stage 2 since the week it came out and love my tune. However, I have run into one small issue and can't pinpoint it to anything but the tune BUT cannot confirm it is that either.

My issue is that I have been having a very minor (rarely throws a CEL and if it does it'll go away by itself, but can feel the vibration) cylinder 6 misfire. I have checked everything little (swap plugs, coils, injector cleaner, updated flash, etc) and have brought it to the dealer to investigate themselves and yet am still having this issue. I tuned my car at 12 k miles and no misfire until 30k when I installed awe downpipes and track exhaust. Threw a CEL the first night of having the exhaust on. Since then I have also taken off and went completely back to stock on the exhaust setup.

Anyone else have this issue? Or recommend what I should try next?

[bhvrdr]

Any code besides a misfire? Could be someone knocked an o2 sensor around but you should see a code for that, not really necessarily a misfire.

Mike

[jprice]

I too have had Stage 2 since the week it came out and love my tune. However, I have run into one small issue and can't pinpoint it to anything but the tune BUT cannot confirm it is that either.

My issue is that I have been having a very minor (rarely throws a CEL and if it does it'll go away by itself, but can feel the vibration) cylinder 6 misfire. I have checked everything little (swap plugs, coils, injector cleaner, updated flash, etc) and have brought it to the dealer to investigate themselves and yet am still having this issue. I tuned my car at 12 k miles and no misfire until 30k when I installed awe downpipes and track exhaust. Threw a CEL the first night of having the exhaust on. Since then I have also taken off and went completely back to stock on the exhaust setup.

Anyone else have this issue? Or recommend what I should try next?

It would be helpful to include the code(s) thrown.

If it's just misfire, you could swap coilpacks between cylinder 5 and 6 and see if the issue moves or stays, and remove and inspect the spark plug at the same time (check gap, check for any cracking on porcelain section)

[treejs4]

It would be helpful to include the code(s) thrown.

If it's just misfire, you could swap coilpacks between cylinder 5 and 6 and see if the issue moves or stays, and remove and inspect the spark plug at the same time (check gap, check for any cracking on porcelain section)

I mentioned it in my original post, but to reiterate, It's only a cylinder 6 misfire. No other codes. And again, I have already swapped plugs and coils.

[brianc21]

I got a P0302 code on cold start up today. Looks like it's cylinder 2 misfire. Flashed back and will see if it pops again.

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[def]

I got a P0302 code on cold start up today. Looks like it's cylinder 2 misfire. Flashed back and will see if it pops again.

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Sounds scary for a 2014... On my 2007 A4 with the APR tune I had the car parked outside on a -10c day and it would start pretty rough compared to stock tune.

What was the temperature like outside that day? I keep mine in the garage over night so temps usually don't drop much past -5c. Starts have been ok so far.

[brianc21]

Its always garaged at around 30 degrees.

This morning's first start and drive was just fine. Sat for about an hour and went back to go out and it started misfiring again. Off to the dealer.

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[carlitod87]

Please let us know how it goes, I would like to see if the issue is actually tune related. Since apparently I am never actually going to receive my tune, it would further solidify my request for a refund.

[IceSilverS4]

Most probably not related to the tune. I run unitronic stage 2+ and had the car to start up perfectly at -13F (-25C), no issue whatsoever. Car has over 100k km. Original coil pack, spark plugs done at 80k km.

[brianc21]

Please let us know how it goes, I would like to see if the issue is actually tune related. Since apparently I am never actually going to receive my tune, it would further solidify my request for a refund.
I've had the tune for about 2 years, 20k miles. I also have had the viper smart start for about a year and half.

They just called and said they swapped plugs and coil packs around and couldn't get it to misfire again. Told them to keep it and figure it out since its happened several times.



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[brianc21]

Looks like the problem was with the intercooler. There was a coolant leak on bank 1 that was leaking into cylinder 2 causing the misfire.

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[Idtrav]

This is great.

Due to where i'm located I only have (2) vendors for tunes to choose from - unitronics & APR. I ran unitronics on my old A4 and was very happy whereas APR...welll...i won't even go there and will NOT consider it for the S4.

Anyone with a 6MT running Unitronics?

I already have AWE touring + Roc intake so what else is a good idea to run with the tune? Is there a dual pulley tune (crank pulley + SC pulley upgrade)?

[bhvrdr]

Uni has a stage 2 level tune right now so you could ruun a sc pulley or a 189mm crank pulley and the tune should work well. They report they are in developnent for a higher ratio setup but as with all our beloved audi tuners make certain not to make any plans yet on a,product thats not released.

Mike

[jonwoods]

Anybody have their stage 1 or 1+ tune? I'm not sure I want to do the pulley. Am curious if the extra power on stage 1 is worth the $$$.

[IceSilverS4]

Jonwoods, i did it in steps, stage 1+ and the 2+... I felt the biggest improvement from stock to 1+. You'll be happy with 1+. Stage 2+ was more subtle, but could still feel it. Quarter mile times shows that the improvement is there. My best time, 1/4 time stock was 13.3 at 106, stage 1+ was 12.6 at 110, stage 2+ was 12.01 at 116.

If you think you will do stage 2+ at some point, do it right off the bat. I wish I did it all at once, I would have saved some $.

[DGVR6]

This is great.

Due to where i'm located I only have (2) vendors for tunes to choose from - unitronics & APR. I ran unitronics on my old A4 and was very happy whereas APR...welll...i won't even go there and will NOT consider it for the S4.

Anyone with a 6MT running Unitronics?

I already have AWE touring + Roc intake so what else is a good idea to run with the tune? Is there a dual pulley tune (crank pulley + SC pulley upgrade)?

Was running unitronic with my 6mt.. no complaints.

[TexasDfwS4]

Just know that the S/C pulley is the same appearance as the OEM and tune from home is ideal. I have no regrets going stage 2 from the start

[def]

Anybody have their stage 1 or 1+ tune? I'm not sure I want to do the pulley. Am curious if the extra power on stage 1 is worth the $$$.

Stage 1 is awesome. Stage 1+ not worth the extra money. I know it came before the TCU tune but it just feels like a forced upgrade if you want the stage 2 TCU tune.

The car is unbelievably better on Stage 1. It doesn't feel like it runs out of breath at 4k rpm and just keeps pulling all the way up. Doing it all over again I'd have insisted on the non aggressive throttle map right off the bat on Stage 1 and just left it that way. No TCU tune and probably wouldn't go dual pulley. Unless some one I considered more reputable here on the forum reported back good results on the package.

One thing I'll note about the throttle mapping though since I don't remember if I mentioned it her before. I went Stage 1 and it felt too sharp in Auto/Drive. I loaded the Stage 2 TCU
and Auto/Drive didn't feel so sharp any more. It was really nice. I went Stage 1+ (to try fix odd shifting behaviours) and had funny shift behaviours and slipping so I went back to stock TCU and the sharpness in Auto/Drive didn't come back with the stock TCU. So not sure why that is... Not sure if there is an adaptation or something.

I'll also note that the UniConnect+ software is really slick. It works well. Probably the only thing I have yet to find a fault in.

[protogeoff]

Great info. Thanks everyone.

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[13jfp]

What is stage 1+, 2+ ? I am familiar with what 1&2 are but not the +

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[def]

What is stage 1+, 2+ ? I am familiar with what 1&2 are but not the +

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Just marketing. The + just seems to denote a tune that requires 93 octane over 91.

[13jfp]

Ordered Unitronic stage 1+ and uniconnect cable today from Modded Euros. Upgraded to next day shipping . Can't wait to install it tomorrow! Modded Euros were great to deal with so far.

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[dbsears]

Does Unitronic have a STG2 for 91 octane cars? I'm in WA with 92 octane and I've seen in the past some tuners have said "just run the 93 octane tune and the car will compensate on the timing side which is a scary method to recommend"

[protogeoff]

Ordered Unitronic stage 1+ and uniconnect cable today from Modded Euros. Upgraded to next day shipping . Can't wait to install it tomorrow! Modded Euros were great to deal with so far.

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Let us know about your impressions after it adapts.

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[13jfp]

Let us know about your impressions after it adapts.

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Will do.

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[protogeoff]

Does Unitronic have a STG2 for 91 octane cars? I'm in WA with 92 octane and I've seen in the past some tuners have said "just run the 93 octane tune and the car will compensate on the timing side which is a scary method to recommend"
I know. Stupid. Why not just release a 91 map and let the consumer choose?

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[def]

I know. Stupid. Why not just release a 91 map and let the consumer choose?

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For the same reason they have a Stage 1 TCU I assume. ;)

[protogeoff]

Thankfully I have Chevron 94 nearby so Uni is on the top of my mods list.

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[13jfp]

Got the Uniconnect today via UPS from Modded Euros...great experience dealing with them...definitely earned my future business. Took about 30 minutes to read the instructions and install the drivers/etc. for the cable. Took about 15 minutes to do the actual stage 1+ re-flash of the ECU. I didn't rush at all. It was a pretty seamless process. You have to be patient while the cable drivers are loading though...it took several minutes. I took the car out for a drive and all I can say is WOW!!! Car should have been like this from the factory. Pulls hard all the way to redline. Only drove about 10 miles but it is definitely worth the money so far. I would guess a 0-60 time of right at 4 seconds... plus or minus a tenth or two. I plan to drive in both the S and D modes for the next few days and see how the car behaves. The Chipwerke I had was OK but this is definitely better. But then again it cost 3 times as much... More to come.

[bhvrdr]

Got the Uniconnect today via UPS from Modded Euros...great experience dealing with them...definitely earned my future business. Took about 30 minutes to read the instructions and install the drivers/etc. for the cable. Took about 15 minutes to do the actual re-flash of the ECU. I didn't rush at all. It was a pretty seamless process. You have to be patient while the cable drivers are loading too...it took several minutes. Took the car out for a drive and all I can say is WOW!!! Car should have been like this form the factory. Pulls hard all the way to redline. Only drove about 10 miles but it is definitely worth the money so far. I plan to drive in both the S and D modes for the next few days and see how the car behaves. The Chipwerke I had was OK but this is definitely better. But then again it cost 3 times as much... More to come.

I always found it funny when people say that you have to give it time for the tune to adapt in order to see the performance gains.

[13jfp]

I always found it funny when people say that you have to give it time for the tune to adapt in order to see the performance gains.


I hear ya Mike. It didn't seem to me like it needed to adapt at all. I did some slow throttle roll-ons in 1-4 just in case and then just hammered it. Now I can't wait for the spring to take it to Cecil County Dragway and make some passes in good air.

[TexasDfwS4]

Your hooked, and by spring you'll be stage 2 and the tcu tune as well lol.

[13jfp]

Your hooked, and by spring you'll be stage 2 and the tcu tune as well lol.
Gonna do my best to be content with it lime it is

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[13jfp]

Gonna do my best to be content with it lime it is

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"like" it is...stupid smartphone keys

[TexasDfwS4]

I've had the ecu tune since they came out with it stage 2+. I love the tune and when the Tcu tune came out I was one of the first as well and with both I'm as happy as can be.

[13jfp]

Not sure if I will keep this car more than another year or so. I hope I can resist the stage 2+ urge. I don't want to have 4 or 5 grand in mods into a car that I will need to trade on an RS3 or S6 or RS4...or whatever else I think I have to have.

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[13jfp]

So far this stage 1+ Uni calibration (sounds better than tune) is fantastic. I would say it might be a little smoother than stock and when u floor it....it hauls ass!

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[13jfp]

I don't care about the rev limiter being at 6400 rpm stock. Other than the raised limiter, what would be the benefit of a DSG calibration?

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[13jfp]

If anybody has the 1+ ECU and DSG your advice would be appreciated.

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[protogeoff]

I always found it funny when people say that you have to give it time for the tune to adapt in order to see the performance gains.
All the better if it doesn't. I'm new to the Audi world so don't know much. Cobb Accessport for the BMW N54 definitely needed some driving for optimal wastegate duty cycle management and full boost... At least in my experience both in the car and logging commanded torque vs achieved, timing advance, wastegate duty cycle, etc, etc. Even switching back to stock required some time after the flash to run its best.

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[13jfp]

I forgot to mention that my laptop is 8 years old, on IE 11 and barely met their minimum recommended computer specs. My internet speed probably wasn't much over 3mbps either. And the process went smooth. That's a testament to how well done their software application is. Very impressive when u can use a ratty old POS laptop and the software still works!

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[Sukks2bu]

If anybody has the 1+ ECU and DSG your advice would be appreciated.

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You could always try the tcu tune, and if you don't t like it or think it's worth the dollars, you have 15 days for a full refund.

[13jfp]

You could always try the tcu tune, and if you don't t like it or think it's worth the dollars, you have 15 days for a full refund.
If there isn't some substantial benefit other than the higher rpm and launch control I don't really want the hassle. I'm not ready to beat up my car trying to eek out every available bit of performance. I was hoping someone at stage 1+ who has tried the DSG tune could give some feedback. My biggest concern is, do I need to worry about clutch slippage or anything else with the stock DSG tune on a stage 1+ ECU tune? If reliability isn't compromised then I am ok keeping the DSG tune stock.

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[TexasDfwS4]

It's smoother for the stage 2+ but not sure of the stage 1. At stage 2+ the ECU tune was so much more then stock that the TCU was just what was needed to make a complete package.

[Sukks2bu]

See, not to disagree with Tex, but I found my car better without the tcu and there were no Benifits of having it considering, my car is a 2010, therefore, I don't have LC and I'm already redlining at 6900rpm.

[Strong Man]

Hi Everyone,

I've started to run an another topic here http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/747281-3-0-TFSI-Stage-2-APR-vs-Unitroni . I'll appriciate for your inputs as well.

BTW .. Unitronic ST2 runs on 93 oct. What would be if I run it on 91 oct ?

[13jfp]

Last two days with the Uni 1+ tune have been great. Normal cruising is better than stock for sure. I really enjoy how it pulls all the way to redline(stock limiter). Thats how my Boss 302 and GT500 (R.I.P.) were. I think Ford Performance calls it "rewarding revs.". A sports car/sedan should never fall on its face at higher rpm...it just ruins the driving experience. Anyway, the Uni tune fixed that issue. Spring can't come soon enough for me...want some time slips. It definitely feels like a low 12s car though...especially when the air is 40° and the BP is up. Honestly with any more power the car would be stupid fast...meaning upgraded brakes,suspension,tires would be a must (I'm on all season 18" Pirellis).

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[protogeoff]

Great! Planning on Uni 1+ in the spring once I'm sure the car is ready for a tune (just bought it in Nov)

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[13jfp]

Great! Planning on Uni 1+ in the spring once I'm sure the car is ready for a tune (just bought it in Nov)

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The Uniconnect and interface software were really impressive. Seems like the Canadians do things properly

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[Sukks2bu]

Go leafs go

[13jfp]

DA outside is around -800... fun!

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[TexasDfwS4]

See, not to disagree with Tex, but I found my car better without the tcu and there were no Benifits of having it considering, my car is a 2010, therefore, I don't have LC and I'm already redlining at 6900rpm.

That makes sense, the 8.5 has different gears and the TCU tune raising the RPMs to close to the B8 levels.

[DFS4]

Im still on the fence of which software to go with, plan to purchase in the next few weeks, kept waiting for the news from APR but still nothing on their new ultracharger, that and no local dealer has me leaning towards Uni and EPL. My thoughts are to go straight to stage 2 with possibility of DP and the other type octane files. Flashing from home seems to have a great advantage.
Great to see the information and results from the forum members on their satisfaction will all the tuning options!

[protogeoff]

Having had flash from home on an N54 engined BMW, I wouldn't even consider any other way.

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[s4hype]

Just found this thread. I went with the Uniconnect 1+ flash and butt dyno says the reflash probably added 30-40awhp. The biggest difference is the power up top, it feels so much better.

[ModItNow]

Having had flash from home on an N54 engined BMW, I wouldn't even consider any other way.

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Likewise, way to convenient even if just for octane switches!


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[S4Flyer]

You could always try the tcu tune, and if you don't t like it or think it's worth the dollars, you have 15 days for a full refund.

Considering going Stage 1+ with Uniconnect.

Question regarding satisfaction guarantee: I realize the Uniconnect device isn't returnable, but if I install the $1200 tune and decide it's not for me, do I really need to take it to a tuner to have the flash removed, or will they just take my word for it that I've removed the tune? If the former, now I'm looking to eat $150 on the Uniconnect cable, plus the cost and hassle of having a tuner reflash my ECU.

[bhvrdr]

Considering going Stage 1+ with Uniconnect.

Question regarding satisfaction guarantee: I realize the Uniconnect device isn't returnable, but if I install the $1200 tune and decide it's not for me, do I really need to take it to a tuner to have the flash removed, or will they just take my word for it that I've removed the tune? If the former, now I'm looking to eat $150 on the Uniconnect cable, plus the cost and hassle of having a tuner reflash my ECU.

They should be able to see you are tuned back to stock. They see what you do. Thats how they can remotely help you too if you give them permission.

Mike

[S4Flyer]

They should be able to see you are tuned back to stock. They see what you do. Thats how they can remotely help you too if you give them permission.

Mike

Nice. Thanks for the info. I will confirm prior to purchase.

[John@Unitronic]

Considering going Stage 1+ with Uniconnect.

Question regarding satisfaction guarantee: I realize the Uniconnect device isn't returnable, but if I install the $1200 tune and decide it's not for me, do I really need to take it to a tuner to have the flash removed, or will they just take my word for it that I've removed the tune? If the former, now I'm looking to eat $150 on the Uniconnect cable, plus the cost and hassle of having a tuner reflash my ECU.

As you suspected, UniConnect+ is NOT refundable, since it's VIN-locked. However, you can reflash to stock using UniConnect+, and then contact us if you're interested in the 15-Day Satisfaction Guarantee. We have ample data to determine if you've actually flashed to stock or not.


They should be able to see you are tuned back to stock. They see what you do. Thats how they can remotely help you too if you give them permission.

Mike

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[IceSilverS4]

The uniconnect is such a great tool ! Worth every penny !

[chopz33]

Everyone still happy with their unitronic tune? Can't help but read all the stuff about the UC with APR, I want to do the stage 1+
Has anyone gone from stage 1 to the 1+?
Was wondering if there was a noticeable difference.

[TexasDfwS4]

Still happy but I went straight to state 2+

[13jfp]

When will a Uni dual pulley be released???

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[TexasDfwS4]

Check your files, they are there you just need to call John and set it up.

[John@Unitronic]

We haven't officially release any dual pulley files, but there are some beta files available to select Clients at the moment.

Our Client and Audizine user Mike (bhvrdr) ran an 11.6@118mph last week using one of our beta dual pulley files on pump gas.

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[Strong Man]

John , that sounds interesting. I've been running on Uni ST2 ECU/TCU almost three weeks and very happy with it.

Which work should be done to get dual pulley? Price for beta testers ?

[13jfp]

I'm saving up for a DP and DSG upgrade......

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[def]

Took a video of 2 pulls with Stage 1+ and Stage 2 TCU.


https://youtu.be/oFSe19dkAbg


https://youtu.be/i37GaQlRRkI



First one is traction control enabled, foot into kick down. Second one is traction control in sport mode, foot into kick down.

[chopz33]

nice,
stage 1+ sounded better and looked like it moved quicker

[13jfp]

Nice!

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[SDV325]

Holy hell thats fast, hitting 160 in 3rd.

As soon as this stupid recession stops im seriously considering Uni, best prices around for sure.

And no stupid U.S. exchange rate! FTW

[bhvrdr]

John , that sounds interesting. I've been running on Uni ST2 ECU/TCU almost three weeks and very happy with it.

Which work should be done to get dual pulley? Price for beta testers ?

Make sure to look at uprated cooling otherwise stage,2+ aggressive file is awesome. Dual pulley with cooling is a great next step...


https://youtu.be/gMGf22GYiOE

[def]

Did anyone notice the wavy tach on the 3rd gear shift? bhvrdr's pull looks a lot smoother. Actually my traction control on vs sport looks a bit smoother. Don't have as much supercharger whine in mine so maybe it's not so noticeable.


Took a video of 2 pulls with Stage 1+ and Stage 2 TCU.


https://youtu.be/oFSe19dkAbg


https://youtu.be/i37GaQlRRkI


First one is traction control enabled, foot into kick down. Second one is traction control in sport mode, foot into kick down.

[brianc21]

Did anyone notice the wavy tach on the 3rd gear shift? bhvrdr's pull looks a lot smoother. Actually my traction control on vs sport looks a bit smoother. Don't have as much supercharger whine in mine so maybe it's not so noticeable.
Yes, I have this on mine as well and its annoying. Happens frequently. I tried bringing it up to John but never followed thru with sending him a video.

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[bhvrdr]

Yes, I have this on mine as well and its annoying. Happens frequently. I tried bringing it up to John but never followed thru with sending him a video.

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Pm him this video link with your box codes and full list of mods

[whiped]

My Revo Tune does it sometimes too. (Might be from the CW, not sure)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xdPOMBARvo
(Sorry for the shit video, only one I had handy)

It shows up in logs if you are checking timing and fueling.

[Sukks2bu]

My car does it stock and with tune.

[brianc21]

Could it be the dsg slipping?

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[Sukks2bu]

I don't think it's the dsg slipping.
If I remember correctly, my car didn't use to do it until I got one of the dsg software updates "as24" or something like that. It really feels like power delivery is a little hesitant. Probably something audi implemented to resolve hard shifts from 2 to 3

[Idtrav]

Holy hell thats fast, hitting 160 in 3rd.

As soon as this stupid recession stops im seriously considering Uni, best prices around for sure.

And no stupid U.S. exchange rate! FTW

Yes I'm super close to pulling the trigger on a tune and Unitronic seems to be best bang for your buck. I was quoted $1800 for a stage I tune from APR from our local dealer compared to $1100 from Unitronic

[SpaceMustard]

I have until August until my warranty is up to decide on who I want to go with for Stage 2. I live in Montreal, QC and Unitronics HQ is in Laval, QC so it's nice to know that they're nearby.

Do you need to chance the stock cats if you go Stage 2 with Unitronic?

[bhvrdr]

I have until August until my warranty is up to decide on who I want to go with for Stage 2. I live in Montreal, QC and Unitronics HQ is in Laval, QC so it's nice to know that they're nearby.

Do you need to chance the stock cats if you go Stage 2 with Unitronic?

No need

[jak77]

Does Uni offer slight tweaking of tune based off actual logged performance? Reason I ask is that I live with shitty 91 (and no plans to ever augment it), and would like a tune more tailored to that vice the 93 all the other free folk in the country have.

[bhvrdr]

Does Uni offer slight tweaking of tune based off actual logged performance? Reason I ask is that I live with shitty 91 (and no plans to ever augment it), and would like a tune more tailored to that vice the 93 all the other free folk in the country have.

Uni has a conservative tune and an aggressive pump tune. The conservative one is good for 91 craptane. The aggresdive one is marketed for 93 oct cars with cooling upgrades but worked very well for my 93 oct with stock cooling too. They dont overdo timing or boost targets that ive seen so far.

Mike

[jak77]

Uni has a conservative tune and an aggressive pump tune. The conservative one is good for 91 craptane. The aggresdive one is marketed for 93 oct cars with cooling upgrades but worked very well for my 93 oct with stock cooling too. They dont overdo timing or boost targets that ive seen so far.

Mike

Thanks again Mike. Good info as always. Was leaning towards GIAC for stage 2, but now taking a closer look at EPL and Uni. A lot of it is based off your experiences. Im trying to find the best tune for my craptane that delivers nice linear power from bottom to top.

[def]

Been running the Stage 1+ with Stage 2 ECU all summer. Not sure if it's the warmer weather but haven't noticed any of the weird issues I had earlier in the year. Super happy with this setup right now. Really need to hit the 1/4 mile to see how it's doing.

[TSTARKZ]

I currently have the stage 2 file with the 200mm crank pulley and cooling upgrades. I need to get a hold of VCDS to see my boost target because as of right now, i'm only seeing peaks of about 15-16psi. Hopefully they come out with logging tools to use with their Uni cable.

[Ingolstadt Sled]

We haven't officially release any dual pulley files, but there are some beta files available to select Clients at the moment.

Our Client and Audizine user Mike (bhvrdr) ran an 11.6@118mph last week using one of our beta dual pulley files on pump gas.

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Hey John, any updates on the dual pulley release? Boost season is coming up.

[Strong Man]

We haven't officially release any dual pulley files, but there are some beta files available to select Clients at the moment.

Our Client and Audizine user Mike (bhvrdr) ran an 11.6@118mph last week using one of our beta dual pulley files on pump gas.

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Almost a year passed since the post ...still nothing ...looks like Uni is dead after all... just promises and nothing more...

[John@Unitronic]

Almost a year passed since the post ...still nothing ...looks like Uni is dead after all... just promises and nothing more...It's funny you revive this thread after so long, with such great timing.. keep an eye out in the coming week or two.. [emoji6]

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[ST3]

Stupid noob question - can I avoid a TD1? In other words, before going to the dealer flash back to "stock" and not leave a trace?

[Strong Man]

It's funny you revive this thread after so long, with such great timing.. keep an eye out in the coming week or two.. [emoji6]

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It wasn't on purpose, just coincidence, but the funny fact that almost the same answer I've already heard a year ago when I met Uni representative during VAG meeting in Toronto.

[Spoorguy]

It's funny you revive this thread after so long, with such great timing.. keep an eye out in the coming week or two.. [emoji6]

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Is this just the pulley and file or are we looking at your own heat exchanger/cooling system as well?

[Silver Streakin]

It wasn't on purpose, just coincidence, but the funny fact that almost the same answer I've already heard a year ago when I met Uni representative during VAG meeting in Toronto.

Or, you could be happy knowing they’re taking their time to make sure it’s good to go before releasing it to customers. And, be happy they haven’t moved on to the B9 S4, RS3 and left us behind.

...Looks in couch cushions to add to DP fund...

[Garro]

At least when Unitronic releases you get no recalls, great performance and support.

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[John@Unitronic]

Is this just the pulley and file or are we looking at your own heat exchanger/cooling system as well?

We we're working on our own heat exchanger/cooling system/intercooler upgrades as well.


Or, you could be happy knowing they’re taking their time to make sure it’s good to go before releasing it to customers. And, be happy they haven’t moved on to the B9 S4, RS3 and left us behind.

...Looks in couch cushions to add to DP fund...

We are working on B9 S4, 8V RS3/8S TTRS and all the rest, too [:D]


At least when Unitronic releases you get no recalls, great performance and support.

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[hail]

[audigsr]

John, any plans to add 92 octane maps in the future? Or if not, would you suggest running conservative or aggressive stage 2/+ with 92 octane?

Still waiting for my warranty to end before taking the plunge on a tune/pulleys, so just researching. Doesn't seem like any tunes support straight 92 octane though.

[Phil.Lmbrt]

John, any plans to add 92 octane maps in the future? Or if not, would you suggest running conservative or aggressive stage 2/+ with 92 octane?

Still waiting for my warranty to end before taking the plunge on a tune/pulleys, so just researching. Doesn't seem like any tunes support straight 92 octane though.

stage 1+ and stage 2+ tunes are already 93oct tunes

[tsitalon1]

Thanks for your feedback! To be clear, after you flash the TCU with our Performance Software, it is NECESSARY to reflash the ECU with the corresponding file labeled "FOR USE WITH UNITRONIC TCU SOFTWARE".

So John, if this requirement still exists today, is there a preferred install order like:

1. Flash ECU
2. Flash TCU
3. Reflash ECU

If so, what issues can we expect if not following a preferred install order?

[John@Unitronic]

So John, if this requirement still exists today, is there a preferred install order like:

1. Flash ECU
2. Flash TCU
3. Reflash ECU

If so, what issues can we expect if not following a preferred install order?

If you're flashing from stock, you can flash the ECU with the file labeled "FOR USE WITH UNITRONIC TCU SOFTWARE" and then reflash the TCU.

[audigsr]

stage 1+ and stage 2+ tunes are already 93oct tunes

I understand, I was just wondering if there would be a 92 octane map release in the future. Since here in Washington we only have 92, 89, 87 octane.

[John@Unitronic]

I understand, I was just wondering if there would be a 92 octane map release in the future. Since here in Washington we only have 92, 89, 87 octane.

No, we do not have any plans to release a specific map for 92 octane fuel. The ECU will correct (pull) ignition advance (timing) accordingly when a lower grade fuel is used, if needed.

[audigsr]

No, we do not have any plans to release a specific map for 92 octane fuel. The ECU will correct (pull) ignition advance (timing) accordingly when a lower grade fuel is used, if needed.

Good to know, thanks John!

[jdcarnes]

No, we do not have any plans to release a specific map for 92 octane fuel. The ECU will correct (pull) ignition advance (timing) accordingly when a lower grade fuel is used, if needed.

This may answer the question I sent you. Does this apply if we wanted to run a higher grade like 100, e30 or e40?


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[John@Unitronic]

This may answer the question I sent you. Does this apply if we wanted to run a higher grade like 100, e30 or e40?


Sent from my iPhone using Audizine (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)If you're seeing timing correction on the pump gas you're using, and you will see an increase using a higher grade gas like 100+ octane. I don't suggest using ethanol blends.

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[silverf0x]

Sorry I didn’t take time to read the whole thread, haven’t posted here in a while but: I installed stage2+ back in 2016 and after a couple of time went for first oil change (flashed to stock before) and everything went ok.. flash forward to 2017 for the next oil change I inquiry my dealer (through a friend who works there) to see if still ok/won’t get TD1’d and he tells me that Audi can now detect it and not to go to the dealer since I’ll be TD1 for sure. He told me that Unitronic would have to come up with an update to make it “undetectable” so I’m wondering, almost a year later, what’s the status on that?

[John@Unitronic]

Sorry I didn’t take time to read the whole thread, haven’t posted here in a while but: I installed stage2+ back in 2016 and after a couple of time went for first oil change (flashed to stock before) and everything went ok.. flash forward to 2017 for the next oil change I inquiry my dealer (through a friend who works there) to see if still ok/won’t get TD1’d and he tells me that Audi can now detect it and not to go to the dealer since I’ll be TD1 for sure. He told me that Unitronic would have to come up with an update to make it “undetectable” so I’m wondering, almost a year later, what’s the status on that?

We can not and have not ever guaranteed that you won't get flagged. We've always recommended reverting everything back to stock to have the best likelihood, but we still can not guarantee anything.

[silverf0x]

We can not and have not ever guaranteed that you won't get flagged. We've always recommended reverting everything back to stock to have the best likelihood, but we still can not guarantee anything.

Thanks for the fast Reply John. FYI as was not implying any sort of guarantee. I was more curious to see if you guys made update to help in that direction?

[John@Unitronic]

Thanks for the fast Reply John. FYI as was not implying any sort of guarantee. I was more curious to see if you guys made update to help in that direction?Nothing has really changed on Audi's side in quite a while, therefore we haven't done any updates on this regard.

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[-unSound]

Will your dual pulley tune adapt to various pulley ratios or is it designed with a certain pulley size in mind? What pulley size or range of pulley sizes can we expect?

A few more months until my warranty is up...[drive]

[saxon]

This may answer the question I sent you. Does this apply if we wanted to run a higher grade like 100, e30 or e40?


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the only reason to run race gas is if you are having timing corrections on 93

i personally ran an e20 blend on their stage 2 map with absolutely no issues at all FYI

[John@Unitronic]

Will your dual pulley tune adapt to various pulley ratios or is it designed with a certain pulley size in mind? What pulley size or range of pulley sizes can we expect?

A few more months until my warranty is up...[drive]

We've engineered our upcoming Stage 3 Dual Pulley ECU Calibrations to work specifically for our Supercharger Drive Pulley and Crank Pulley.

[Phil.Lmbrt]

We've engineered our upcoming Stage 3 Dual Pulley ECU Calibrations to work specifically for our Supercharger Drive Pulley and Crank Pulley.

Hope that pulley is around 187mm! [>_<][drive]

[tsitalon1]

I second that hope!

But they may go conservative around 183 or so...

[Phil.Lmbrt]

I second that hope!

But they may go conservative around 183 or so...

I have a picture from their display engine at Eurokracy 2017 and it looked bigger than 183[drive]

[Spoorguy]

the only reason to run race gas is if you are having timing corrections on 93

i personally ran an e20 blend on their stage 2 map with absolutely no issues at all FYI

What’s the crank pulley size? I don’t remember what you said but I believe a 187 right?

[Silver Streakin]

*bump*

...wanting DP...

spring is around the corner. summer tires... need more fun... [drive]

[tsitalon1]

*bump*

...wanting DP...

spring is around the corner. summer tires... need more fun... [drive]

^^ +1000

[Spoorguy]

I’m just trying to get them to enable my launch control...if not, DP would be nice at the least.

[sc117]

61719


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[Strong Man]

61719


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Ooooo....where is this???

[Datalogger1]

Ooooo....where is this???

That's from instagram, but they have the same info on their facebook page IIRC.

[brianc21]

Stage 3 is posted on their website now...

John, what's the cost to go from stage 2+ to 3? I didn't see that in there.

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[sc117]

Stage 3 is posted on their website now...

John, what's the cost to go from stage 2+ to 3? I didn't see that in there.

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+1


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[rand0mher0]

This is nuts.. glad I've been waiting to get the stage 2 kit because it looks like I'm going straight to stage 3, lol. 493HP is nuts [o_o] Any wheel HP numbers?


Stage 3 is posted on their website now...

John, what's the cost to go from stage 2+ to 3? I didn't see that in there.

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http://www.urotuning.com/Unitronic-Stage-3-Crank-Pulley-Upgrade-Kit-3-0T-p/uh010-bta.htm

$450

[brianc21]

Thanks.

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[sc117]

Since Unitronics currently does not offer a Supercharger Cooling System/Heat Exchanger Upgrade, which system is recommended?
Also ETA on Unitronics cooling upgrade?


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[Spoorguy]

So, from saxon who beta tested for them, he used the merc racing hx and their custom reservoir which was a total of about $750. He logged and had that set up for awhile and recommends it. Not sure if he pitted it against other HX but inexpensive route vs the competition. I wouldn't go Revo because my buddy has their set up and still experiences quite a bit of heat soak and is planning to go with APR due to its self bleeding system. Right now, still doing a little research and somewhat limited due to our move to Germany but looking at the APR at the moment with the AWE being second. How I'm personally going about it, I'm going to go with a HX and reservoir and not worrying about a pump like some systems have.

[windowguy]

Stage 3 - dual pulley just came out today. Woohoo. I have Stage 2 already. Time for an upgrade.

Rob.

[Silver Streakin]

checks PayPal account.... [wrench]

Do we need to have cooling to run this safely? Or it just needed to make the advertised numbers?

[Mr_Hooper]

Since Unitronics currently does not offer a Supercharger Cooling System/Heat Exchanger Upgrade, which system is recommended?
Also ETA on Unitronics cooling upgrade?

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This is from their release post, linked below:
"Unitronic is actively developing and testing solutions to address the stock (OEM) Cooling System/Heat Exchangers/Intercoolers, as we reached the limit on the stock components at these power levels. Unitronic will continue to develop a Supecharger Cooling System/Intercooler solution to allow for us to further develop the 3.0TFSI platform for an even greater increase in engine output."

https://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/808915-*Unitronic-Stage-3-Dual-Pulley-Upgrade-Kit-for-3-0-TFSI-Now-Available!*

[Silver Streakin]

UniTronic dealers are saying the DP is on back order.

Does anyone have the crank pulley in stock? I want to go from their stage 2+ to DP.

Who wants some of my bonus $?

[John@Unitronic]

UniTronic dealers are saying the DP is on back order.

Does anyone have the crank pulley in stock? I want to go from their stage 2+ to DP.

Who wants some of my bonus $?

Whoa, blast from the past! PM sent!

[Sukks2bu]

Just want to let potential unitronics users know that if you are thinking of purchasing a uniconnect+ cable to tune your car, that the cable is VIN specific and cannot be used on any other car even if it is your new Audi for tuning.
An update must be done that costs almost the same amount of money as buying a brand new cable. At this time, unitronics will not transfer ownership of your cable to yourself at no charge, they would rather loose you as a client.

Not a good business model.

I will be looking at other options for tuning my new a5 as I no longer have any reason to stay loyal, cause my uniconnect cable is useless.

Thank you

[John@Unitronic]

Just want to let potential unitronics users know that if you are thinking of purchasing a uniconnect+ cable to tune your car, that the cable is VIN specific and cannot be used on any other car even if it is your new Audi for tuning.
An update must be done that costs almost the same amount of money as buying a brand new cable. At this time, unitronics will not transfer ownership of your cable to yourself at no charge, they would rather loose you as a client.

Not a good business model.

I will be looking at other options for tuning my new a5 as I no longer have any reason to stay loyal, cause my uniconnect cable is useless.

Thank you

Yes, we do not hide that the current UniCONNECT+ device is VIN locked to a single vehicle- it's on the product pages, throughout our website, and its what we tell you by email or phone upon inquiry. We offer options to re-use your cable, and if you're purchasing it with a new performance software license, we often waive any costs associated with transferring the cable to a new vehicle. Let me know if you have any other questions.

[01northernS4]

Yes, we do not hide that the current UniCONNECT+ device is VIN locked to a single vehicle- it's on the product pages, throughout our website, and its what we tell you by email or phone upon inquiry. We offer options to re-use your cable, and if you're purchasing it with a new performance software license, we often waive any costs associated with transferring the cable to a new vehicle. Let me know if you have any other questions.

John, "we often waive any costs associated with transferring the cable to a new vehicle"... "often" sounds vague and way to arbitrary... what are the criteria for this exactly?

Why not just waive the transfer costs in these exact circumstances? I kind of get VIN lock if you're trying to prevent the sale of the cable to another but it's the same owner getting a new vehicle... where is the customer incentive to stay with UNI? Sounds like this may be poor, counterintuitive business practice... unless there is a good reason you'd care to share...

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Just want to let potential unitronics users know that if you are thinking of purchasing a uniconnect+ cable to tune your car, that the cable is VIN specific and cannot be used on any other car even if it is your new Audi for tuning.
An update must be done that costs almost the same amount of money as buying a brand new cable. At this time, unitronics will not transfer ownership of your cable to yourself at no charge, they would rather loose you as a client.

Not a good business model.

I will be looking at other options for tuning my new a5 as I no longer have any reason to stay loyal, cause my uniconnect cable is useless.

Thank you

Thanks for the psa Sukks2bu... I'm about to get into a new Audi and this is great to know... hopefully John can shed some light or adjust their policy.

[f1torrents]

I cannot see a single good reason to choose unitronic.
But the list of con's oh so very long...

[Nillious]

While we are on this subject. What are the costs associated with transferring Apr IE or 034 to a new vehicle by same owner?

[Sukks2bu]

Yes, we do not hide that the current UniCONNECT+ device is VIN locked to a single vehicle- it's on the product pages, throughout our website, and its what we tell you by email or phone upon inquiry. We offer options to re-use your cable, and if you're purchasing it with a new performance software license, we often waive any costs associated with transferring the cable to a new vehicle. Let me know if you have any other questions.


This is not what I was told both by email and by phone when I wanted to clarify the email.
The uni rep I spoke to told me I was not the only one who complained about this, and it was never offered to me that the reprogramming would be waived upon the purchase of a new tune.
I specifically asked if they would waive the fee. Considering this can be done remotely, it can’t be complicated, so I see no reason why this should’t be offered as standard practice.

[Sukks2bu]

While we are on this subject. What are the costs associated with transferring Apr IE or 034 to a new vehicle by same owner?
I’d be interested to know this as well

[Sukks2bu]

we often waive any costs associated with transferring the cable to a new vehicle. Let me know if you have any other questions.

How can I find out if I qualify for unitronics waiving the reprogramming fee, before I consider purchasing a new tune for my new car?

[John@Unitronic]

John, "we often waive any costs associated with transferring the cable to a new vehicle"... "often" sounds vague and way to arbitrary... what are the criteria for this exactly?

Why not just waive the transfer costs in these exact circumstances? I kind of get VIN lock if you're trying to prevent the sale of the cable to another but it's the same owner getting a new vehicle... where is the customer incentive to stay with UNI? Sounds like this may be poor, counterintuitive business practice... unless there is a good reason you'd care to share...

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Thanks for the psa Sukks2bu... I'm about to get into a new Audi and this is great to know... hopefully John can shed some light or adjust their policy.

Are you purchasing a new Performance Software license for a vehicle that has not been tuned before with our Performance Software and have a UniCONNECT+ cable that you purchased new for a vehicle that you previously owned that you purchased new Unitronic Performance Software for? You qualify.


How can I find out if I qualify for unitronics waiving the reprogramming fee, before I consider purchasing a new tune for my new car?

Are you purchasing a new Performance Software license for a vehicle that has not been tuned before with our Performance Software and have a UniCONNECT+ cable that you purchased new for a vehicle that you previously owned that you purchased new Unitronic Performance Software for?

[f1torrents]

[QUOTE=John@Unitronic;14922666]Are you purchasing a new Performance Software license for a vehicle that has not been tuned before with our Performance Software and have a UniCONNECT+ cable that you purchased new for a vehicle that you previously owned that you purchased new Unitronic Performance Software for? You qualify.

It's BS like this that is just another reason to stay away from this company.

as well as...

-Most expensive by a lot.
-Least gains by a lot.
-They separate 91 and 93 files into different SKU's, so you have to pay extra for each when the others just include both.
-They are no longer involved in the platform.

[fivefan]

How is it BS? From what I read, the above discussion is regarding transferring a cable to a new vehicle.

None of these arguments are new or novel. If one values proven OEM-like reliability over "gains" (a whole other discussion), consider Unitronic. Everyone is free to do their own research and make a choice. The platform is fifteen years old. There is a multitude of newer platforms to develop since.

Ping us when APR lets you flash your own vehicle.

[f1torrents]

Transferring a tune form car to car is one thing..
Not being allowed to use the cable YOU bought is another piece of BS all together.
Just a cash grab from a dying company.

Show me proof that this company has more "reliability" than the others. Actual tangible proof..

[fivefan]

Transferring a tune form car to car is one thing..
Not being allowed to use the cable YOU bought is another piece of BS all together.

Non-sequitur. He said he qualifies, so I must be missing something in your argument.


Show me proof that this company has more "reliability" than the others. Actual tangible proof..

Ah... the burden of proof invocation. Hence the mention of, "do their own research". I gained proof in my own research through talking and communicating with owners and licensed installers of various tunes. I actually, tangibly talked to them and reviewed actual, tangible data.

Am I going to waste hours digging around attempting to vacuum all that up just to present to you here in a nice tidy post? No. People know how to find and weigh information if they really want to. Anyone can go around slamming something on the Internet.

[f1torrents]

You have wasted your money on them already. Which is why you are forced to side with them. It was a bad decision then, and is still a bad decision now.
I bet you enjoyed paying extra for the 93 oct version of that stage 1 tune..
So many ill informed people out there.

[fivefan]

You have wasted your money on them already. Which is why you are forced to side with them. It was a bad decision then, and is still a bad decision now.

LOL. I love my tunes.


I bet you enjoyed paying extra for the 93 oct version of that stage 1 tune..

Yep, all of $90, you got me. I always use 93, so I'm good.

You just have an axe to grind.