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DBFL
11-20-2016, 09:08 PM
I really should have started a build thread a while ago. I had been listing my mods in my signature, but there's a 500 character limit and my mod list has exceeded that.

The car is a 2016 S4 6MT In Mythos Black with Sports Diff, B&O, Carbon Atlas Trim, and Tech Package.

Here's my mod list...

Go-fast mods:
GIAC Dual Pulley Tune
GIAC LPFP Upgrade
AWE Supercharger Pulley
iAbed Industries 74mm Throttle Body Upgrade
AMS Alpha Cooling System
JHM Stage 5R Clutch
JHM Lightweight Flywheel
USP Stainless Braided Clutch Line
AWE Touring Exhaust
Tampa AutoSports Intake
186mm Crank Pulley
Tampa Autosports Ceramic Coated Test Pipes
Tampa AutoSports Ported and Polished Supercharger

Suspension:
KW DDC Coilovers with WIFI Module
Eurocode Front & Rear Sway Bars
Eurocode End Links
Eurocode AluKruez
ECS Transmission & Diff. Mount Inserts
034 Asjustable Upper Control Arms
CR-15 Brace

Cosmetic/Miscellaneous Mods:
Recaro Sportster CS Seats
Vorsteiner V-FF 101 19x8.5 et45 w/ custom Brushed Copper paint
H&R 10mm Spacers
034 Transmission Mount
034 Motorsports Density Line Motor Mounts
Eurocode Short Shifter
JHM Solid Shift Linkage
RS4 Piano Black MMI/Cluster Trim
RS4 Style Front Bumper and Grille
E-Code Headlights
Window Trim and Rear Valance Painted Mythos Black
P3 Vent Gauge
BlackVue DR650S-2CH Dash Cam
Beltronics STi-R+ Radar Detector
Laser Interceptor Laser Jammer
XPel Full Front Clear Bra
Gtechniq Crystal Serum Ceramic Coating
ECS Carbon Fiber Engine/Supercharger Covers

Track Stuff:
Neuspeed RSe10 Wheels - 19x9 et40
Toyo Proxes R888R - 265/30/19
VMR V810 Wheels - 19x8.5 et35
Bridgestone RE-71R - 255/35/19
Naca Ducts
Macan Air Scoops
AP Racing Radi-CAL 370mm J-hook Rotors
AP Racing Radi-CAL 6-piston Calipers
AP Racing Stainless Braided Brake Lines
Macan Dust Shields

Almost all of the work was done by Tampa Autosports in Tampa, FL. The quality of work they do is top notch and their customer service is unbeatable. If anyone in the Tampa Bay Area is looking for somewhere to get work done, definitely go see Evan and his crew.

Most of the pictures I have are crappy iPhone shots. Here are some of the better ones in chronological order, except for the first two. Those will always be the latest pictures - one will be the street setup and the other will be the track setup.

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The night I picked it up. Parked next to the '14 S4 I traded in
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Still stock other than APR stage 1
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Coilovers installed. Sorry for the shitty quality pictures.
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AluKreuz, Sway Bars, and Intake installed
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AWE Touring exhaust w/ stock downpipes
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Paint Correction, XPel, and Ceramic Coating complete
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APR Pulley and Stage 2
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AMS Alpha cooler installed

(I don't have these pictures on my phone. And for some reason I'm having an issue downloading them from my Photobucket account. Maybe I'll have to use my desktop instead of my phone. I'll give that a shot later )

JHM Stage 4 clutch and lightweight flywheel
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Removed JHM Stage 4 clutch and replaced with Stage 5R clutch. Had to replace the flywheel friction liner as well.
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Loaded on a trailer for my first ever HPDE. Went to Sebring International Raceway. Unfortunately U-Haul didn't properly maintain their trailer. A piece of metal was sticking up and pulled/ripped off my front bumper when I backed the car off.
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RS4 Style bumper and grille (since the stock one was damaged), Killer Chiller, and custom brake ducting. I wanted to put scoops where the fog lights were, but there wasn't enough room after the Alpha cooler reservoir/pump and Killer Chiller. So we went with NACA ducts in the belly pan.
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Switched from APR to GIAC Stage 2 with Stock, 93, and Race files. So I bought some MS109.
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VMR track wheels
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Vorsteiner V-FF 101 wheels (custom Brushed Copper painted finish). Also had the Audi rings, Supercharged Badges, and S4 Badge painted to match.

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AudiSTL
11-20-2016, 09:15 PM
Impressive list of mods for 2016 went in hardcore as soon as you got the car and the shine god all mine cars have been black until i got s4 i miss the black some time

Stealthsi009
11-20-2016, 09:21 PM
Forgive my ignorance but whats the AMS alpha cooler for?


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DBFL
11-20-2016, 09:27 PM
Impressive list of mods for 2016 went in hardcore as soon as you got the car and the shine god all mine cars have been black until i got s4 i miss the black some time

Thanks. I didn't plan on doing this much, but once the mod bug hits there's no stopping. Thankfully there aren't really many more things I can do to the car.

DBFL
11-20-2016, 09:30 PM
Forgive my ignorance but whats the AMS alpha cooler for?


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Upgraded cooling. It helps keep the supercharger cooler which in turn reduces IATs.

Jv218
11-20-2016, 09:45 PM
did you go with a dampened crank pulley?

waxxonMTL
11-20-2016, 09:49 PM
you went all-in bud !! very nice.. now you need that DP tune and you could add the new 034 rear subframe insert.. Beside that, you pretty much bought the whole B8.5 S4 catalogue of aftermarket part LOL!!

DBFL
11-20-2016, 10:06 PM
did you go with a dampened crank pulley?

No. I bought a 186mm KustomImports pulley. There was an issue with some of the holes not lining up properly. So I'm waiting for them to send me a new one. I should have it this week.


you went all-in bud !! very nice.. now you need that DP tune and you could add the new 034 rear subframe insert.. Beside that, you pretty much bought the whole B8.5 S4 catalogue of aftermarket part LOL!!

Dual pulley is happening this week. I didn't know 034 had rear subframe inserts. I guess I'll be buying them.

Edit: Subframe inserts ordered.

stereojorge
11-23-2016, 12:10 PM
I love this car so very much! Glad I can indulge in it locally and call Daniel a great friend :)


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Acejam
11-23-2016, 12:43 PM
I'm curious to hear about your reasons for switching from APR to GIAC. How would you compare the drivability and power of each?

Lensch09
11-23-2016, 12:54 PM
Mod-wise, this is literally a twin to my car.

Still waiting to install my AMS Alpha (this week) and 382mm brakes (probably in a few weeks once they get back from powdercoat).

How do you like the killerchiller? I kicked around picking one up but haven't convinced myself that it's necessary. I never do HPDE, just go 1/4 running.

-DL

AudBoost
11-23-2016, 01:17 PM
And he didn't even mention all the electrical work he has done to his car. Daniel is the resident electrical guru for our group here in Tampa.

Looking good Daniel!

DBFL
11-23-2016, 04:50 PM
I'm curious to hear about your reasons for switching from APR to GIAC. How would you compare the drivability and power of each?

It was for a few reasons. I was having an issue with the tune where I was getting a surge of power in first gear at 4000rpm, but only under partial throttle. It happened on both stage 1 & 2, but didn't happen on a stock file. It was beyond frustrating trying to get APR to fix the problem. It appears to be isolated to 2016 6mt cars. Also, GIAC makes more power with their tunes and I'll be able to have true dual pulley software when the pulley goes on next week.

DBFL
11-23-2016, 05:00 PM
Mod-wise, this is literally a twin to my car.

Still waiting to install my AMS Alpha (this week) and 382mm brakes (probably in a few weeks once they get back from powdercoat).

How do you like the killerchiller? I kicked around picking one up but haven't convinced myself that it's necessary. I never do HPDE, just go 1/4 running.

-DL

Actually, killer chiller is more of a 1/4 mile mod. Mine isn't 100% working yet. If you buy it, skip the optional track bypass valve. Mine sticks and blocks the freon completely. I've heard it's a common issue. I'm having it removed when I take the car in on Monday. Other than that it's a great system. It helps big time with heat soak. So you don't have to let the car cool for an hour between runs at the track. Loe was seeing IATs in the 20-30 degree celcius just range this past weekend. Plus this AWE coolant reservoir was cold to the touch. It's definitely worth the cost if you go to the track regularly.

Thurston
11-24-2016, 08:52 AM
Do you have a review on your clutch and lwfw set up yet? Good looking car and tastefully modded.

Loe
11-24-2016, 08:57 AM
And he didn't even mention all the electrical work he has done to his car. Daniel is the resident electrical guru for our group here in Tampa.

Looking good Daniel!

yeah, there are so many new buttons and gizmo's on this car i'm surprise its not a transformer!

Also +1 on this build and Evan and Crown Motorsports, true track car that has been legitimately abused for fun on the track, awesome stuff!

Stealthsi009
11-24-2016, 01:57 PM
yeah, there are so many new buttons and gizmo's on this car i'm surprise its not a transformer!

Also +1 on this build and Evan and Crown Motorsports, true track car that has been legitimately abused for fun on the track, awesome stuff!

Lets see some cockpit pictures!


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DBFL
11-24-2016, 02:01 PM
Lets see some cockpit pictures!


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I can take some later, but it won't show much. The interior looks 100% stock. The only thing noticeable is the dash cam. All the buttons I have used are factory Audi buttons that I wired into various electronics.

DBFL
11-24-2016, 02:10 PM
Do you have a review on your clutch and lwfw set up yet? Good looking car and tastefully modded.

I love the clutch and flywheel. The flywheel, like basically any lightweight flywheel, makes the throttle more responsive. I can definitely hear a decent amount of chatter from the outside of the car. And a bit more vibration inside as well.

The clutch grabs and I have not had any slip at all. And I have definitely abused it way more than I did the stock clutch. Pedal travel feels stock. The pedal is a bit firmer, but nothing crazy. The engagement point is close to factory. The issue I'm having is launching the car. When the clutch grabs, it really grabs. So I've been experiencing wheel spin at the drag strip. It's just a matter of adjusting how I slip the clutch when launching. I think a few more attempts and I'll have it. When I did a HPDE last month, it performed perfectly. And during that type of driving it felt perfect. In traffic it may be a different experience though. Since the S4 isn't my daily I have yet to drive it in any heavy or even moderate traffic.

If I had to do it all over again I'd make the same choice. No regrets at all with this setup.

DBFL
11-24-2016, 02:15 PM
And he didn't even mention all the electrical work he has done to his car. Daniel is the resident electrical guru for our group here in Tampa.

Looking good Daniel!


I love this car so very much! Glad I can indulge in it locally and call Daniel a great friend :)

Thanks guys.

DBFL
11-24-2016, 03:13 PM
yeah, there are so many new buttons and gizmo's on this car i'm surprise its not a transformer!

Also +1 on this build and Evan and Crown Motorsports, true track car that has been legitimately abused for fun on the track, awesome stuff!

Thanks Loe. The new crank pulley is going on Monday assuming everything goes to plan. I can't wait until the next time I can make it to the track.

SouthernBoy
11-25-2016, 02:54 AM
Damn. Must be a bear removing all of that when warranty work is needed.

[heh, heh]

eightamrock
11-25-2016, 10:49 AM
It was for a few reasons. I was having an issue with the tune where I was getting a surge of power in first gear at 4000rpm, but only under partial throttle. It happened on both stage 1 & 2, but didn't happen on a stock file. It was beyond frustrating trying to get APR to fix the problem. It appears to be isolated to 2016 6mt cars. Also, GIAC makes more power with their tunes and I'll be able to have true dual pulley software when the pulley goes on next week.

This happens to me all the time. Didn't realize it was an issue, thought it was a characteristic of the tune. I only ever really notice it in comfort mode.


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Lensch09
11-25-2016, 11:04 AM
Ever thought about a fuel line relocation kit to run the feed under the intake pipe? For $30 it's a great mod!


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DBFL
11-25-2016, 11:14 AM
Ever thought about a fuel line relocation kit to run the feed under the intake pipe? For $30 it's a great mod!


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I was planning to get it next time I ordered something from ECS.

DBFL
11-29-2016, 12:14 PM
BBK is on. 186mm crank pulley as well. There are a few small things to finish up and then it'll be flashed with dual pulley software tomorrow.

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Loe
11-30-2016, 05:33 AM
Great to see that Evan@Crown Motorsports was able to get a 6MT B8.5 flashed for the DP [up] Thing's are looking up [:D]

...he's crew will get the "fun" of installing my HFC this Thursday. Hope you got your KC set-up figured out as well, so far mine's been holding up (as it should since it's a passive system).

Rez90
11-30-2016, 06:23 AM
Any plans to put it on a Dyno?

RyanJon
11-30-2016, 06:41 AM
Nice car dude, your brake setup is exactly the same as mine. What pads have you got in the front? There's not many options with the AP calipers so I've got ds2500 in and I'm sick of the dust so looking for a lower dust alternative!

A.C.
11-30-2016, 06:47 AM
BBK is on. 186mm crank pulley as well. There are a few small things to finish up and then it'll be flashed with dual pulley software tomorrow.

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Nice bling!

stereojorge
11-30-2016, 07:10 AM
Great to see that Evan@Crown Motorsports was able to get a 6MT B8.5 flashed for the DP [up] Thing's are looking up [:D]

...he's crew will get the "fun" of installing my HFC this Thursday. Hope you got your KC set-up figured out as well, so far mine's been holding up (as it should since it's a passive system).

High Flow Cats??


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Loe
11-30-2016, 07:28 AM
High Flow Cats??


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yeah, my OEM cats are speculated to be clogged (not due to a design failure or tune-related, more due to coolant contamination and the resultant issues months down the line). HFC's are the cheapest alternative.

DBFL
11-30-2016, 01:00 PM
Nice car dude, your brake setup is exactly the same as mine. What pads have you got in the front? There's not many options with the AP calipers so I've got ds2500 in and I'm sick of the dust so looking for a lower dust alternative!

I bought two sets of pads... one for the street (they are Hawk brand. I don't know what model since I'm still waiting for them to be delivered) and a track set (Ferodo). I'm using the Ferodo pads in the front for now until the other set is delivered. I can get you part numbers later today.


Any plans to put it on a Dyno?

No plans other than me thinking that I should look into it when I have the time. I'd like to do it, but it isn't that high on my priority list.


Great to see that Evan@Crown Motorsports was able to get a 6MT B8.5 flashed for the DP [up] Thing's are looking up [:D]

...he's crew will get the "fun" of installing my HFC this Thursday. Hope you got your KC set-up figured out as well, so far mine's been holding up (as it should since it's a passive system).

Killer chiller should be good to go. The track bypass valve was definitely sticking, so we just eliminated it. I now have it set up the same way as you.

Loe
12-14-2016, 05:37 AM
I'm game on the dyno and a road trip to Orlando for it (if it's on a weekend that is...)

Were you able to get the flash squared away? Curious to see if the file for the 6MT car is similar to mine (100% ready IMHO) or if they used the more aggressive file that I initially received and started over for 6MT guys.

DBFL
12-14-2016, 09:17 AM
I'm game on the dyno and a road trip to Orlando for it (if it's on a weekend that is...)

Were you able to get the flash squared away? Curious to see if the file for the 6MT car is similar to mine (100% ready IMHO) or if they used the more aggressive file that I initially received and started over for 6MT guys.

I'm going to start looking into the dyno rental in a couple days (I have my hands full with some family stuff right now).

I'm still on the stage 2 tune for now. Hopefully that will change in the near future. I think I'm going to the track either way tomorrow.

doug97gxe
12-14-2016, 09:30 AM
its amazing to me how much work you and Lensch09 have done on your 2016's .. you guys don't fk around .. got in there and went for it.. i love when people make their cars their own

Loe
12-14-2016, 10:53 AM
I'm going to start looking into the dyno rental in a couple days (I have my hands full with some family stuff right now).

I'm still on the stage 2 tune for now. Hopefully that will change in the near future. I think I'm going to the track either way tomorrow.

awesome! I'm going to try to make it out there as well as it will be my final run for 2016 as I can't make it to Saturday's event there or Sunday's TNT out in Orlando. Otherwise the track opens up again in the middle of January and I'll more than likely go to the Saturday morning TNT on the 14th and for sure our ASOT track day rental

waxxonMTL
12-14-2016, 01:03 PM
did you installed the 034 solid subframe bushing yet ? how does it feel ?

DBFL
12-14-2016, 01:28 PM
did you installed the 034 solid subframe bushing yet ? how does it feel ?

Yes, they are installed. I haven't driven the car much since they were installed, but driving around town feels the same as stock. No noticeable increase in NVH. I should be able to do some fun driving this weekend. I will report back after I've had a chance to attack some corners and really test it out.

waxxonMTL
12-14-2016, 04:14 PM
Yes, they are installed. I haven't driven the car much since they were installed, but driving around town feels the same as stock. No noticeable increase in NVH. I should be able to do some fun driving this weekend. I will report back after I've had a chance to attack some corners and really test it out.

thanks !

DBFL
12-14-2016, 05:34 PM
its amazing to me how much work you and Lensch09 have done on your 2016's .. you guys don't fk around .. got in there and went for it.. i love when people make their cars their own

Thanks. I'm quite happy with all the mods I've done. I didn't set out to do all of this in the beginning. The original plan was to do Stage 2 and suspension. But then I realized that I had put 7500 miles on it in under 6 months. So I bought a daily. At that point I decided to go all in. Since I wasn't going to be driving it on a daily basis it no longer needed to be civilized.

DBFL
01-10-2017, 05:59 PM
Well shit...
I'm now forced to get rid of my Avant Gardes. Unfortunately they don't clear the calipers.
And to make things worse the problem was discovered only after the wheels were mounted to the car. So now there's a bit of a gouge on the inside of the wheel barrel. I really loved the look of the M510s. I'm really disappointed because when I ordered the wheels the vendor assured me that they'd fit with the BBK.

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DBFL
01-10-2017, 06:27 PM
Now for some good news...
I took the car to Crown Motorsports today to have the dual pulley tune flashed.
All I can say so far is holy shit!!! This thing is fast. Going from a stage 2 file to the dual pulley file feels more dramatic than going from stock to stage two. I can't wit for our track rental next weekend to see what it really can do.

I want to thank Crown Motorsports Division for getting this done as well as all the guys at GIAC.

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14S4GWM
01-10-2017, 06:32 PM
That blows about the wheels dude, what a scrape on brand new wheels.

Loe
01-10-2017, 08:18 PM
Now for some good news...
I took the car to Crown Motorsports today to have the dual pulley tune flashed.
All I can say so far is holy shit!!! This thing is fast. Going from a stage 2 file to the dual pulley file feels more dramatic than going from stock to stage two. I can't wit for our track rental next weekend to see what it really can do.

I want to thank Crown Motorsports Division for getting this done as well as all the guys at GIAC.



Bunch of good guys all around! I can agree with that statement too, it feels more dramatic, just simply more TQ everywhere and still shoved back into the seat well into 4th gear[up] Happy the file worked on your bad-ass ride, those RE-11's got some nice looking traction to them

DBFL
01-10-2017, 11:22 PM
A few crappy iPhone shots. Hopefully I'll have time to have better pictures taken soon.

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stereojorge
01-11-2017, 06:59 AM
A few crappy iPhone shots. Hopefully I'll have time to have better pictures taken soon.

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I know that red car! [emoji83]


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sbw
01-11-2017, 12:23 PM
You move fast! Very nice car.

DBFL
01-11-2017, 01:33 PM
You move fast! Very nice car.

Thank you.


Also, holy shit!!! This GIAC dual pulley tune is amazing. I really need to get the car to a dyno. This thing is FAST!! There is so much power that when I launch the car I start to lose my grip on the steering wheel. I had to move my seat forward to keep a grip on the wheel.

DBFL
01-24-2017, 12:23 AM
A few pictures from this past weekend at the Audi Sport of Tampa private track rental.

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Scalways
03-01-2017, 10:35 PM
Just wow [emoji15] I'd love a vid if you have one


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DBFL
03-01-2017, 10:50 PM
Just wow [emoji15] I'd love a vid if you have one


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Thanks.
Someone did do video at the drag strip. I'll have to track it down.
I'm going to post videos from my weekend at Sebring from two weeks ago. I've gone through about 4 of the 5 hours of footage that I have. I guess it's time that I create a YouTube account.

Scalways
03-01-2017, 11:57 PM
Thanks.
Someone did do video at the drag strip. I'll have to track it down.
I'm going to post videos from my weekend at Sebring from two weeks ago. I've gone through about 4 of the 5 hours of footage that I have. I guess it's time that I create a YouTube account.

Awesome [emoji122] I subscribed to the thread because you have actually done everything I can't afford lol. I'm going to have to pick and choose my upgrades wisely because I have a savings and a checking and all my money is in my savings and I don't think I can transfer it in time [emoji23] lol I hope you get that reference. Anyway I just went stage 1 apr and got the cr-15. Can I pick your brain for a good next upgrade bang for the buck. I was thinking exhaust but your opinion would be nice!


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DBFL
03-02-2017, 12:49 AM
Awesome [emoji122] I subscribed to the thread because you have actually done everything I can't afford lol. I'm going to have to pick and choose my upgrades wisely because I have a savings and a checking and all my money is in my savings and I don't think I can transfer it in time [emoji23] lol I hope you get that reference. Anyway I just went stage 1 apr and got the cr-15. Can I pick your brain for a good next upgrade bang for the buck. I was thinking exhaust but your opinion would be nice!


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Haha. Great Kevin Hart reference.

As for best bang for you buck, That depends on budget and what your goal is. My AWE Tuning Touring sounds amazing, but exhausts don't do anything for performance on our cars. If you want sound, there's no better way to go, though. That and an open filter intake like ECS, RocEuro (terrible customer service), or CTS.

I went with better suspension and handling before exhaust. If you are on a budget you can get a set of H&R springs and Bilstein shocks for a reasonable price. It will really transform the handling. I wouldn't recommend the KW coilovers that I have. The rear springs are too soft - even softer than stock. If you aren't going to track the car you can save money by avoiding coilovers. After that I'd go with sway bars and end links then an Alu Kreuz.

But as I said, it all depends on what your goals are.

Scalways
03-02-2017, 01:18 AM
Haha. Great Kevin Hart reference.

As for best bang for you buck, That depends on budget and what your goal is. My AWE Tuning Touring sounds amazing, but exhausts don't do anything for performance on our cars. If you want sound, there's no better way to go, though. That and an open filter intake like ECS, RocEuro (terrible customer service), or CTS.

I went with better suspension and handling before exhaust. If you are on a budget you can get a set of H&R springs and Bilstein shocks for a reasonable price. It will really transform the handling. I wouldn't recommend the KW coilovers that I have. The rear springs are too soft - even softer than stock. If you aren't going to track the car you can save money by avoiding coilovers. After that I'd go with sway bars and end links then an Alu Kreuz.

But as I said, it all depends on what your goals are.

Thank you so much for the advice! I was thinking exhaust then the Alu kreuz next. I think I'll take your advice and look at springs and shocks then! I really appreciate it especially from someone who really knows. I don't have a plan yet it's a daily driver but I want to get a little more of its potential. I like to just drive a bit quick on occasion. I can only sneak so much money bye the wife at one time tho. So for me it's just general performance bang for the buck. And do the must haves first. I just really respect the opinion from someone who's really done already. I'll stop hijacking your thread tho.
Thanks again!


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DBFL
03-02-2017, 01:57 AM
Thank you so much for the advice! I was thinking exhaust then the Alu kreuz next. I think I'll take your advice and look at springs and shocks then! I really appreciate it especially from someone who really knows. I don't have a plan yet it's a daily driver but I want to get a little more of its potential. I like to just drive a bit quick on occasion. I can only sneak so much money bye the wife at one time tho. So for me it's just general performance bang for the buck. And do the must haves first. I just really respect the opinion from someone who's really done already. I'll stop hijacking your thread tho.
Thanks again!


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Glad I could help. Let me know if I can answer any more questions.

stereojorge
03-02-2017, 05:55 AM
Just wow [emoji15] I'd love a vid if you have one


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Hi! It's not a my buddy DBFL's car, but here is a quick vid from the same event of my car :)


https://vimeo.com/206398595


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FromRagsToS4
03-02-2017, 12:52 PM
What octane tune you running? Have you tried mixing in E85?

DBFL
03-02-2017, 01:16 PM
What octane tune you running? Have you tried mixing in E85?

Depends on what I'm doing.
If I'm driving around town or going to the drag strip I use MS109 (105 octane)
When I do an HPDE I switch to the pump file and use ethanol free 93 octane.

I haven't put any ethanol in the car in more than 6 months now. Since I have another car that I use as a daily I don't drive the S4 as often as I used to. And I didn't want the ethanol corroding everything while the car sits. I'm probably a bit over paranoid.

FromRagsToS4
03-02-2017, 02:06 PM
HPDE?

A.C.
03-02-2017, 02:25 PM
HPDE?
I presume High Performance Driving Event. Thanks to google 😉

DBFL
03-02-2017, 02:39 PM
HPDE?

High Performance Driver Education

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Performance_Driver_Education

Basically it's a non-competitive track event. Without a doubt it's the most fun I've ever had driving a car.

DBFL
03-22-2017, 07:48 PM
Well, shit. So this happened today. Hopefully it solves my clutch problems.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170707/9ed4812172bf2a273e8f8e9b40483da3.jpg

Since the transmission has to come out, I might as well do this mess too.

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hyetiko
03-22-2017, 08:47 PM
What problems were you having with the stage 4 non R series clutch!?


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DBFL
03-22-2017, 09:26 PM
What problems were you having with the stage 4 non R series clutch!?


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The clutch pedal goes to the floor and doesn't come back up. Then it won't go back into gear until I coast for a little bit in neutral. It happens every time on the 2-3 upshift on the drag strip and the 4-3 downshift on a road course (quite dangerous going into turn 3 at Sebring). It even happens on the street with just moderately aggressive driving.

It appears to be the pressure plate. Either it's defective or just can't handle the amount of power the car has. We will know for sure when everything comes out next week.

ModItNow
03-22-2017, 11:21 PM
I just got the 3R clutch put in at JHM and they replaced my slave too. Said it was wore a little, I only have 26,000 miles. Sure it wasn't a slave issue?


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hyetiko
03-23-2017, 06:46 AM
I just got the 3R clutch put in at JHM and they replaced my slave too. Said it was wore a little, I only have 26,000 miles. Sure it wasn't a slave issue?


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Let me know how you like, I've been looking into getting the 3R clutch in a few months.


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DBFL
03-23-2017, 09:17 AM
I just got the 3R clutch put in at JHM and they replaced my slave too. Said it was wore a little, I only have 26,000 miles. Sure it wasn't a slave issue?


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It's not the slave. That option has already been explored.

ModItNow
03-23-2017, 09:25 AM
Let me know how you like, I've been looking into getting the 3R clutch in a few months.


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I've only had it a few days but so far it's awesome. Clutch pedal is only slightly heavier and with the flywheel and clutch line it shifts so much faster. Can't wait to rip on it after break in and see what it can really do.


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ModItNow
03-23-2017, 09:26 AM
It's not the slave. That option has already been explored.

Well crap!


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DBFL
03-23-2017, 09:30 AM
Well crap!


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Yep. That would have been too easy I guess.

hyetiko
03-23-2017, 09:35 AM
I've only had it a few days but so far it's awesome. Clutch pedal is only slightly heavier and with the flywheel and clutch line it shifts so much faster. Can't wait to rip on it after break in and see what it can really do.


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I'll PM you in a few months to see how it is!


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Lensch09
03-23-2017, 10:23 AM
Do you have a USP line without the resonator on your slave?

We've already talked, but I think the R series will solve your problems. On a side note, DP cars HATE stock intakes.

Personally, I think they should stop selling the non-R series all together.

-DL

ModItNow
03-23-2017, 10:23 AM
I'll PM you in a few months to see how it is!


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Sounds good!


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DBFL
03-23-2017, 12:41 PM
Do you have a USP line without the resonator on your slave?

Yep.


Personally, I think they should stop selling the non-R series all together.

Perhaps they should use better pressure plates. But they should definitely rebrand it as a "street line."

DBFL
03-24-2017, 10:01 PM
Finally put my car on a dyno.
487awhp/467awtq
As far as I can tell that's the highest ever recorded for a 3.0t with the stock supercharger.

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doug97gxe
03-25-2017, 09:15 AM
Finally put my car on a dyno.
487awhp/467awtq
As far as I can tell that's the highest ever recorded for a 3.0t with the stock supercharger.

http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb337/DanBarth/ASOT%20Dyno%20Day%20March%202017/9BA768B4-B136-42A7-B2B0-0276913E063B_zpsxwrrdydo.jpg (http://s1200.photobucket.com/user/DanBarth/media/ASOT%20Dyno%20Day%20March%202017/9BA768B4-B136-42A7-B2B0-0276913E063B_zpsxwrrdydo.jpg.html)

http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb337/DanBarth/ASOT%20Dyno%20Day%20March%202017/EC7059BD-DFBE-4FF6-922F-36F9C73447F9_zpsn4gryxy6.jpg (http://s1200.photobucket.com/user/DanBarth/media/ASOT%20Dyno%20Day%20March%202017/EC7059BD-DFBE-4FF6-922F-36F9C73447F9_zpsn4gryxy6.jpg.html)

how's the clutch holding up?

DBFL
03-25-2017, 09:19 AM
how's the clutch holding up?

It's not. A new one is on its way and will be installed next week.

doug97gxe
03-25-2017, 09:21 AM
It's not. A new one is on its way and will be installed next week.

Shoot with all that power I was hoping you found "the one"


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DBFL
03-25-2017, 09:25 AM
Shoot with all that power I was hoping you found "the one"


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Me too. I'm not pleased that I have to pay to replace a clutch with only 3000 miles on it. I feel JHM should at least list the power limitations of each of the clutches they offer.

DBFL
03-25-2017, 04:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58fdoxpu_44

DBFL
03-25-2017, 04:06 PM
A couple short videos from Sebring last month. I still have a couple hours of videos to finish trimming.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e4iGWgMrUc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rJddzg2od8

waxxonMTL
03-25-2017, 06:44 PM
curious about your opinion on th emotor mount :)

DBFL
03-25-2017, 07:13 PM
curious about your opinion on th emotor mount :)

They get delivered on Monday. Car goes to the shop Wednesday. I can't really test them out until I break in the clutch, though. But I'll definitely post an update as soon as I'm able to drive the car aggressively again. Shouldn't be more than a couple weeks.

DBFL
03-26-2017, 01:25 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170707/a656ea9c7f21c079bc5ba8e2cd3dad76.jpg

jokingjimmy
03-26-2017, 05:43 AM
A couple short videos from Sebring last month. I still have a couple hours of videos to finish


That looks so fun! You go solo or with the group? Also do you take separate wheels/tires with you or just pre race prep at home and drive up?

waxxonMTL
03-26-2017, 08:59 AM
They get delivered on Monday. Car goes to the shop Wednesday. I can't really test them out until I break in the clutch, though. But I'll definitely post an update as soon as I'm able to drive the car aggressively again. Shouldn't be more than a couple weeks.

I have them lying in my house.. I'm holding till my warranty ends to install them, you know, just in case, one blow in the next few months and I get OEM for free lol.. Hence why I'm really curious how they feel ! :)

DBFL
03-26-2017, 11:16 AM
That looks so fun! You go solo or with the group? Also do you take separate wheels/tires with you or just pre race prep at home and drive up?

It was so much fun. Definitely the most fun I've ever had driving a car.
I went with Chin Motorsports. They organize HPDEs at a dozen tracks around the country. I should be approved to drive solo after the next event at the end of April. Their website is chintrackdays.com if you want to check them out.
I have separate wheels and tires for the track. I don't want to mess up my nice wheels, and that way I can put more aggressive tires on one set. I bring the other wheels as a backup set in case I blow out a tire or something like that. And I tow the car there. The car gets prepped for the track (aggressive alignment, fresh oil, complete brake flush with Motul RBF600, and race spec brake pads). Once it's setup for the track I don't want anything getting messed up on these crappy Florida streets. Also, if something happens to the car at the track (like this picture of one of my tires from last time) then I'm not stuck there. As an added benefit, I then have a truck to drive around while I'm there instead of a race prepped car.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170707/4bd520ea4c85f79be2a0b69ddf75b7bd.jpg

jokingjimmy
03-26-2017, 04:50 PM
Aha thanks for the breakdown. Ya I would like to do that someday. How's the impact on the rest of the car, front fascia, windshield, mirrors, etc.?

DBFL
03-26-2017, 05:55 PM
Aha thanks for the breakdown. Ya I would like to do that someday. How's the impact on the rest of the car, front fascia, windshield, mirrors, etc.?

I highly recommend it. It impact on the car isn't much. I usually slaughter a bunch of bugs because we're in Florida. As long as you drive on a decent line you're fine as far as debris goes. I haven't had anyone kick up anything while in front of me. I have the entire front end of my car, including mirrors, wrapped in xpel though.
It isn't an inexpensive hobby, but not terribly expensive either. I'd say I spend $2000 per weekend. That includes renting a truck to tow the car, hotel room for two nights, shop cost for track prep, fuel, and the fee to attend. That's for two days though. You can sign up for just one day if you choose to.

DBFL
03-27-2017, 02:07 PM
A quick preview...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170707/329ce9076fc6e80e967a9f94516c5fe0.jpg

RavinJetta
03-27-2017, 02:22 PM
Very nice wheels. Can't wait to see them on.

Scalways
03-29-2017, 12:01 AM
Great vids I love seeing you just blow some of those cars out!!! Keep them coming.


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A.C.
04-01-2017, 08:25 PM
They get delivered on Monday. Car goes to the shop Wednesday. I can't really test them out until I break in the clutch, though. But I'll definitely post an update as soon as I'm able to drive the car aggressively again. Shouldn't be more than a couple weeks.

What clutch did you decide on using after JHM's didn't work out for you?


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DBFL
04-01-2017, 09:20 PM
What clutch did you decide on using after JHM's didn't work out for you?

JHM Stage 5R. I wasn't crazy about giving them more money after the issues I've had, but they are going to work with me once I send back the bad clutch. We'll see how it all works out.

doug97gxe
04-01-2017, 09:23 PM
I highly recommend it. It impact on the car isn't much. I usually slaughter a bunch of bugs because we're in Florida. As long as you drive on a decent line you're fine as far as debris goes. I haven't had anyone kick up anything while in front of me. I have the entire front end of my car, including mirrors, wrapped in xpel though.
It isn't an inexpensive hobby, but not terribly expensive either. I'd say I spend $2000 per weekend. That includes renting a truck to tow the car, hotel room for two nights, shop cost for track prep, fuel, and the fee to attend. That's for two days though. You can sign up for just one day if you choose to.

$2000 [emoji15] Good Lord


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DBFL
04-01-2017, 09:34 PM
$2000 [emoji15] Good Lord

Yeah, but it's so much fun. There's no better feeling than passing a Ferrari or some other exotic with a two ton luxury sedan.

A.C.
04-01-2017, 09:53 PM
Yeah, but it's so much fun. There's no better feeling than passing a Ferrari or some other exotic with a two ton luxury sedan.
Wow! Now I definitely have to do.my research for my DD. I have Unitronic Stage 2+. Wondering what else is required replacing while in there. I have the stainless steel line already.

DBFL
04-01-2017, 10:08 PM
Wow! Now I definitely have to do.my research for my DD. I have Unitronic Stage 2+. Wondering what else is required replacing while in there. I have the stainless steel line already.

Depends how far you want to go. Since my transmission is out I'm doing upgraded motor mounts, transmission mount, headers, and downpipes.

A.C.
04-01-2017, 10:13 PM
Depends how far you want to go. Since my transmission is out I'm doing upgraded motor mounts, transmission mount, headers, and downpipes.
Motor and transmission mounts will be a necessity. I have AWE track exhaust and believe headers would be overkill. Unsure though. Skeptical on the hi flow cats as the issues with JHMs.

DBFL
04-01-2017, 10:18 PM
Motor and transmission mounts will be a necessity. I have AWE track exhaust and believe headers would be overkill. Unsure though. Skeptical on the hi flow cats as the issues with JHMs.

The headers should put me over 500awhp. So since I'm in there already, why not? And I'm going catless since we don't have to pass emissions checks here in Florida.

A.C.
04-02-2017, 05:03 AM
The headers should put me over 500awhp. So since I'm in there already, why not? And I'm going catless since we don't have to pass emissions checks here in Florida.
Makes total sense. If I had the touring exhaust I would have opted for headers as well. My track and factory DPs are significantly loud already. I appreciate the info!

DBFL
04-02-2017, 11:13 AM
Makes total sense. If I had the touring exhaust I would have opted for headers as well. My track and factory DPs are significantly loud already. I appreciate the info!

Yeah, I'm sure it's going to be quite loud. I have been considering switching to the AWE track exhaust. I wouldn't have done any of that if this was my daily, though. For a fun weekend/track car I can deal with the noise.

DBFL
04-19-2017, 10:15 PM
Time for an update...

I picked up the car from the shop today. Here's the list of changes:

JHM Stage 5R clutch & new friction liner

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170707/a5c3d6569585153be4b149162c64d257.jpg

JHM Solid Shift Linkage

034 Motor & Transmission Mounts

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170707/3316193b2b5e67862e32daefc7e4c72f.jpg

Crown Motorsports Ceramic Coated Test Pipes

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170707/65b64956369b7606b08c45d18b29bc91.jpg

Here's a couple pictures of the JHM Stage 4 clutch that came out. It would appear that it couldn't handle the power that the car makes and melted to the friction liner on the flywheel.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170707/906e89a9d8159cf2fc9aeb7996ea5953.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170707/d5f9ddc176a7d57af26c938b336f8baf.jpg

I picked up the car at noon, and that's when the day turned to shit.
I decided to drive to Orlando to dyno the car. I wanted to see how much power the test pipes added.
Well, some lady wasn't paying attention and rear ended me.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDG1nyDwIm0

I need to have the bumper repainted and will most likely have to replace the valance.

Finally got to the dyno and the car sounded amazing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR688Q5Av6o

I was there for two hours and got exactly zero usable pulls. The dyno calibration was way off. No matter how many times they tried calibrating it, it wouldn't work. Then the car was showing 7400 rpm in 4th gear the dyno was reading 6700 rpm. Such a waste of time.

DBFL
04-25-2017, 04:17 PM
A few photos from this past weekend at Sebring.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170707/e039ab38910c486e2295087ad35108af.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170707/ce350d8d7df01fb066942760b62bb383.jpg

The view from my hotel room:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170707/03e652acc986dc93c998cd1197f4f27d.jpg

My instructor said that I was too fast for the novice group. So they gave me a second green band and let me drive with the blue group (intermediate solo). I get to take the test for solo driving next time.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170707/074cf6b65db0fe404a1182c78ca6eb97.jpg

The weekend went well until the very end. My supercharger belt had had enough. Luckily it happened with only 10 minutes left in the final session of the weekend.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170707/dfff972c9dfa3455b8e1e57f39fc6bda.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170707/d9bc6be6c3263a74583124285fa0fd15.jpg

Lensch09
04-25-2017, 05:05 PM
My belt did the EXACT same thing. Oh well, right?

-DL

DBFL
04-25-2017, 05:15 PM
My belt did the EXACT same thing. Oh well, right?

-DL

Yep. Unfortunately nobody locally sells the correct belt. I did manage to locate a 6-rib belt that works. Should hold me over until I can get one online somewhere.

Scalways
04-27-2017, 04:27 PM
If you would have shot that lady I at least would have understood! [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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DBFL
04-27-2017, 04:36 PM
If you would have shot that lady I at least would have understood! [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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Eh, she was very apologetic. As long as she covers the cost to fix it all will be ok.

jokingjimmy
04-28-2017, 04:43 AM
Grats on the track day. So any change in preference of manual vs dsg? Or happy with the upgraded clutch and mt?

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Loe
04-28-2017, 04:49 AM
Finally got to the dyno and the car sounded amazing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR688Q5Av6o

I was there for two hours and got exactly zero usable pulls. The dyno calibration was way off. No matter how many times they tried calibrating it, it wouldn't work. Then the car was showing 7400 rpm in 4th gear the dyno was reading 6700 rpm. Such a waste of time.

The exhaust note on this one is awesome through my earphones! You can tell the driver let off early by the sound. definitely unfortunate that day with the #'s and the accident

A.C.
04-28-2017, 05:18 AM
I agree. Beast mode sound. Sorry about the Raiders plug💀💀!! Were the headers installed for this run?

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DBFL
04-28-2017, 08:00 AM
Grats on the track day. So any change in preference of manual vs dsg? Or happy with the upgraded clutch and mt?

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I'll always prefer a manual. Only about 1000 miles on it so far. So time will tell if it holds up. Although I now seem to be in the early stages of the dreaded "push clutch to start" problem.

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I agree. Beast mode sound. Sorry about the Raiders plug💀💀!! Were the headers installed for this run?

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Not full headers. Test pipes. And yes, they were installed.

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The exhaust note on this one is awesome through my earphones! You can tell the driver let off early by the sound. definitely unfortunate that day with the #'s and the accident

Yeah, that was a rather shitty day.

Strong Man
04-28-2017, 08:10 AM
A few photos from this past weekend at Sebring.

My supercharger belt had had enough. Luckily it happened with only 10 minutes left in the final session of the weekend.



Sorry to hear it. Was it original belt with pulley or tune ?

Thurston
04-28-2017, 08:17 AM
Time for an update...

I picked up the car from the shop today. Here's the list of changes:

JHM Stage 5R clutch & new friction liner

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JHM Solid Shift Linkage

034 Motor & Transmission Mounts

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Crown Motorsports Ceramic Coated Test Pipes

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Here's a couple pictures of the JHM Stage 4 clutch that came out. It would appear that it couldn't handle the power that the car makes and melted to the friction liner on the flywheel.

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I picked up the car at noon, and that's when the day turned to shit.
I decided to drive to Orlando to dyno the car. I wanted to see how much power the test pipes added.
Well, some lady wasn't paying attention and rear ended me.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDG1nyDwIm0

I need to have the bumper repainted and will most likely have to replace the valance.

Finally got to the dyno and the car sounded amazing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR688Q5Av6o

I was there for two hours and got exactly zero usable pulls. The dyno calibration was way off. No matter how many times they tried calibrating it, it wouldn't work. Then the car was showing 7400 rpm in 4th gear the dyno was reading 6700 rpm. Such a waste of time.


straight bo$$

DBFL
04-28-2017, 08:22 AM
Sorry to hear it. Was it original belt with pulley or tune ?

It was the belt that came with the 186mm crank pulley. I'm hoping that it doesn't happen again. $15 for a belt isn't so bad, but I don't want to have to keep replacing the $150 hood liner.

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straight bo$$

Haha. Thanks.

Thurston
04-28-2017, 08:28 AM
i was rear ended in the chick fil a drive thru line about 3 weeks ago ... just had it all fixed up ... the guy (a local cpa so i trusted him sorta) paid out of pocket and it wasn't cheap despite the minor damage. good luck.

Strong Man
04-28-2017, 09:54 AM
It was the belt that came with the 186mm crank pulley. I'm hoping that it doesn't happen again. $15 for a belt isn't so bad, but I don't want to have to keep replacing the $150 hood liner.



Did you check both pulley ? It can happen when a pulley has defect/crack and moves from correct place.

ModItNow
04-28-2017, 10:19 AM
[QUOTE=DBFL;12383662]I'll always prefer a manual. Only about 1000 miles on it so far. So time will tell if it holds up. Although I now seem to be in the early stages of the dreaded "push clutch to start" problem.

I'm starting to have this issue as well, need to push the clutch down further than before to start.


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DBFL
04-28-2017, 04:44 PM
Did you check both pulley ? It can happen when a pulley has defect/crack and moves from correct place.

Yeah. They are fine. Four days of track use was probably a bit much for that belt.

DBFL
04-28-2017, 04:49 PM
I finally got around to installing the CR-15 brace that I've had sitting around for a couple weeks. While I was at it I cleaned the car since we have a local Audi meet tomorrow, and I replaced the damaged hood liner. New wheels on too (missing center caps because they were damaged from shipping).

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A.C.
04-28-2017, 06:21 PM
I finally got around to installing the CR-15 brace that I've had sitting around for a couple weeks. While I was at it I cleaned the car since we have a local Audi meet tomorrow, and I replaced the damaged hood liner. New wheels on too (missing center caps because they were damaged from shipping).

http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb337/DanBarth/2016%20S4/2800F87C-A9CC-4634-8136-4F847B1F6ED0_zpsbrrempk7.jpg (http://s1200.photobucket.com/user/DanBarth/media/2016%20S4/2800F87C-A9CC-4634-8136-4F847B1F6ED0_zpsbrrempk7.jpg.html)

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Looks awesome. You will love the CR-15. Currently running stock suspension with AK.

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DBFL
04-28-2017, 06:35 PM
Looks awesome. You will love the CR-15. Currently running stock suspension with AK.

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Thanks. I'm going back to Sebring next weekend, so I should have plenty of track time to test it out.

A.C.
04-28-2017, 06:51 PM
Thanks. I'm going back to Sebring next weekend, so I should have plenty of track time to test it out.
Nice! I'm sloooowly getting there. Just want to try it out one time once I'm done.

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Mops@Nemesis
04-28-2017, 07:01 PM
VERY nice build, Daniel. The wheels look fantastic!

DBFL
04-28-2017, 07:07 PM
Nice! I'm sloooowly getting there. Just want to try it out one time once I'm done.

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I highly recommend it. But I must warn you, there is no doing it once. These cars perform really well on the track, especially with the sports diff. Once you track the car you'll be hooked. I'm going to be picking up an enclosed trailer this summer so I can start going to other tracks around the country.

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VERY nice build, Daniel. The wheels look fantastic!

Thanks Mops. It's been a pleasure working with you getting them done.

A.C.
04-28-2017, 07:22 PM
I highly recommend it. But I must warn you, there is no doing it once. These cars perform really well on the track, especially with the sports diff. Once you track the car you'll be hooked. I'm going to be picking up an enclosed trailer this summer so I can start going to other tracks around the country.

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Thanks Mops. It's been a pleasure working with you getting them done.
Very cool. Hit me up whenever you're in the DMV. I believe the only decent track is VIR. About 4 hrs away further south.. Waterfest in NJ has a small track also among other activities.

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DBFL
04-28-2017, 07:28 PM
Very cool. Hit me up whenever you're in the DMV. I believe the only decent track is VIR. About 4 hrs away further south.. Waterfest in NJ has a small track also among other activities.

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VIR is definitely on my list of tracks that I want to go to. As of now the plan is to do Homestead and Atlanta later this year. Then I'll head north sometime in early 2018.

A.C.
04-28-2017, 07:32 PM
VIR is definitely on my list of tracks that I want to go to. As of now the plan is to do Homestead and Atlanta later this year. Then I'll head north sometime in early 2018.
Sounds good. I'll be around 👍

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Lensch09
04-29-2017, 06:06 AM
Yeah. They are fine. Four days of track use was probably a bit much for that belt.

Mine did the same thing.

I get the feeling that 6MT cars are MUCH harder on belts, especially if you do HPDE or make frequent trips to a 1/4 mile track.


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waxxonMTL
04-29-2017, 08:31 PM
how your liking your 034 motor mount and tranny mount ?

DBFL
04-29-2017, 10:09 PM
how your liking your 034 motor mount and tranny mount ?

So far so good. I've got about 900 miles on them including 300-350 miles of track use.

jran76
04-29-2017, 11:38 PM
VIR is definitely on my list of tracks that I want to go to. As of now the plan is to do Homestead and Atlanta later this year. Then I'll head north sometime in early 2018.

You should consider COTA. It's pricey, but worth it if only because you can say you did an F1 track. There are several companies that do track days there like Edge Addicts and Speed Ventures.

DBFL
04-29-2017, 11:43 PM
You should consider COTA. It's pricey, but worth it if only because you can say you did an F1 track. There are several companies that do track days there like Edge Addicts and Speed Ventures.

Thanks for the recommendation. I've been driving with Chin Motorsports, and COTA is on their list of tracks. I just looked at the track layout. Looks like a fun track.

Lensch09
04-30-2017, 08:30 AM
Thanks for the recommendation. I've been driving with Chin Motorsports, and COTA is on their list of tracks. I just looked at the track layout. Looks like a fun track.

Again, you ever make it out west, we have Sonoma, Laguna Seca, and Thunderhill all just a stone throw away.


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DBFL
04-30-2017, 11:58 AM
Again, you ever make it out west, we have Sonoma, Laguna Seca, and Thunderhill all just a stone throw away.


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Laguna Seca is definitely my end game.

Acejam
05-02-2017, 08:13 PM
I get the feeling that 6MT cars are MUCH harder on belts, especially if you do HPDE or make frequent trips to a 1/4 mile track.

I am curious about why you think the transmission dictates the amount of belt wear.

Lensch09
05-02-2017, 08:36 PM
I am curious about why you think the transmission dictates the amount of belt wear.

Rev limiter is hard on belts. Violent shifts, are hard on belts. Rev-matching and other things can be hard on belts.

All things easy to do (sometimes even purposefully done) in a higher HP 6 speed (500+ crank).


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Oloung1
05-02-2017, 08:59 PM
VIR is definitely on my list of tracks that I want to go to. As of now the plan is to do Homestead and Atlanta later this year. Then I'll head north sometime in early 2018.

those wheels are amazing [drool]. homestead should be fun, feels like more pitch in the turns than sebring.

DBFL
05-06-2017, 03:55 PM
Another day at Sebring

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And another supercharger belt and hood liner destroyed. The belt was put on yesterday before I trailered the car to the track. I got less than two hours of driving before it went. Ugh.

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jokingjimmy
05-06-2017, 07:39 PM
Holy shit man... What's the recourse?

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DBFL
05-07-2017, 05:01 AM
Holy shit man... What's the recourse?

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It seems like the belt that was paired with the 186mm pulley may be the wrong size. So I put on a different size belt. I guess we will find out sooner or later. I'll just hold off replacing the hood liner this time.

Lensch09
05-07-2017, 08:51 AM
Put the stock idler back on, and order a Gates RPM.

I said in another post that I don't think the big HP dual pulley cars will get 10k out of a belt (especially with guys who frequently track) and that it will turn into a maintenance item at oil change intervals similar to HPFP followers on 2.0t cars.

Unfortunately, it's looking more and more like I'll be right. Which sucks, because my fan shrouds rip the hell out of my hands when doing a belt from up top (best go from underneath). 6MT cars seem to chew them up faster than 10k, so change them up earlier, I guess?


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DBFL
05-07-2017, 09:07 AM
10K? I wish!! I got 35 laps out of that belt. That's roughly 130 miles.
I changed from a 1290mm belt to a 1306 for today (mainly because that's all I could get on the weekend). So, 1290 is too small. But it appears 1306 is too loose. Three laps in today and my dash lit up like a Christmas tree. It would appear that the belt slipped when I downshifted. Maybe 7pk1300 is the way to go. I'd rather find the correct belt for this setup rather than put the car in service position to put the stock idler pulley back on. Especially because I'd probably still have to figure out the correct belt size for that setup.

projectwoopass
05-12-2017, 08:07 AM
So did replacing your clutch with the stage 5 ever fix your sticking issue? Did jhm use a different pressure plate than the one they use for their other clutches? I assume it did fix it since you haven't mentioned anything about clutch issues since?


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DBFL
05-12-2017, 12:00 PM
So did replacing your clutch with the stage 5 ever fix your sticking issue? Did jhm use a different pressure plate than the one they use for their other clutches? I assume it did fix it since you haven't mentioned anything about clutch issues since?


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I haven't said anything about it yet for a few reasons. First, the last time it took about 2000 miles of use for the problem to appear. I'm probably around 1200 miles on the nose clutch. So I'll reserve judgement for now. Second, I'm still waiting for JHM to make things right with the last setup. But they don't seem interested in responding to emails. Even if this new clutch works out, I wouldn't recommend doing business with such a poorly run company.

As for the pressure plate, it is a different part. The R-Line pressure plate has no SAC mechanism and is apparently much stronger than the one included with their other line of clutches. As to whether it's better or not, I can't really say yet. I've done two full weekend HPDE events on this setup, but I haven't been to the drag strip yet. The strip will be the real test since I haven't launched the car since the clutch was changed.

DBFL
05-13-2017, 08:48 AM
I finally got all my copper accents installed (front & rear rings, S4 badge, and Supercharged badges).

I'm still debating what I'm going to do with the mirrors. Ill probably paint them body color with a copper accent.

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jran76
05-13-2017, 09:55 AM
Nice work on pulling it together with the copper accents. That's something more cars could do to compete the look when going with an off color wheel (don't mean that in a bad way....). And, yeah, I think doing the mirrors body colored is the way to go. Or CF with a CF rear diffuser....

jokingjimmy
05-13-2017, 07:47 PM
I was just thinking something the other night. You running dampened crank pulley? Maybe the belt chewing that's gaining out there because of tiny vibration on solid pulley?

Sounds dumb, but it just crossed my mind the other day, thought it'd bring it up.

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DBFL
05-13-2017, 07:52 PM
Nice work on pulling it together with the copper accents. That's something more cars could do to compete the look when going with an off color wheel (don't mean that in a bad way....). And, yeah, I think doing the mirrors body colored is the way to go. Or CF with a CF rear diffuser....

I think carbon fiber is a waste of money on a black car. It just blends in. I'm going to look for a set of used mirrors that I can have painted in mythos black. I'm still debating if I'm going to add any copper to them. If I do, I'll add a stripe in the small recessed area on the top.

DBFL
05-13-2017, 07:58 PM
I was just thinking something the other night. You running dampened crank pulley? Maybe the belt chewing that's gaining out there because of tiny vibration on solid pulley?

Sounds dumb, but it just crossed my mind the other day, thought it'd bring it up.

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No. It's undampened. I figured that since I lost most of the dampening when going to a LWFW it wasn't necessary to spend the extra money on a dampened pulley. Although you may be on to something about there being an imbalance. There's still the possibility that the 7pk1290 belt that was paired with the pulley was too small causing it to separate. I have a 1306 on it now and Loe dropped off another belt for me to try - I think it's a 1300. I'm ok spending $25 or so on a few belts to see if that works before investing in a new FD pulley.

jran76
05-13-2017, 08:06 PM
I think carbon fiber is a waste of money on a black car. It just blends in. I'm going to look for a set of used mirrors that I can have painted in mythos black. I'm still debating if I'm going to add any copper to them. If I do, I'll add a stripe in the small recessed area on the top.

Maybe, but you can get a set of CF mirrors for $140, and I think the ECS rear diffuser is a nice aesthetic upgrade on the B8.5 outside of the color. I can't imagine you will spend a whole lot less on a quality paint job on the mirrors and stock diffuser.

Lensch09
05-13-2017, 08:14 PM
Here's an idea... why don't I send you my Daytona Grey (DGP) mirrors?


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DBFL
05-13-2017, 08:15 PM
Maybe, but you can get a set of CF mirrors for $140, and I think the ECS rear diffuser is a nice aesthetic upgrade on the B8.5 outside of the color. I can't imagine you will spend a whole lot less on a quality paint job on the mirrors and stock diffuser.

I may be able to find a set of mirrors for a reasonable price. If I get a second set, I can send them out for painting without any downtime. Plus I can add the European power folding option at the same time. As for the diffuser, I think I have to replace my stock valance anyway since I was rear ended a few weeks ago. The lady that hit my car wants to pay cash so her insurance doesn't go up. So I'll probably go aftermarket on that piece. It'll cost her less than a stock part and I get a better looking diffuser. Everyone wins. I'd like to find one made of plastic and have it painted to match. I just haven't gotten around to researching the available options.

DBFL
05-13-2017, 08:16 PM
Here's an idea... why don't I send you my Daytona Grey (DGP) mirrors?


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Thanks Dan. That could definitely work. I'll text you during the week when I have time to start gathering up the necessary parts.

jokingjimmy
05-15-2017, 06:55 AM
No. It's undampened. I figured that since I lost most of the dampening when going to a LWFW it wasn't necessary to spend the extra money on a dampened pulley. Although you may be on to something about there being an imbalance. There's still the possibility that the 7pk1290 belt that was paired with the pulley was too small causing it to separate. I have a 1306 on it now and Loe dropped off another belt for me to try - I think it's a 1300. I'm ok spending $25 or so on a few belts to see if that works before investing in a new FD pulley.
Yah I just started thinking, if the pulley itself is exhibiting even the most minuscule vibrations, especially higher frequency, lower amplitude vibrations, that might translate into rapid wear on any belt. The blown belts all seem to happen on the undampened pulleys, but maybe I missed something.

Also LWFW has less mass which to me would increase minute vibration (less weight to stabilize/absorb vibration). LWFW = Less weight = higher frequency, lower amplitude vibration. So the LWFW would actually be more detrimental to vibration reduction, without some kind of compensation. At least the type of vibration that would wear out the pulley belt, yet not enough to affect internal components.

Maybe more weighty pulley = less frequency and higher amplitude vibration which is still not great.

Assuming the dampened pulley = less frequency AND lower amplitude vibration, this is where we'd see the best value?

Anyways, it's all my dumb theories, and I'm no Mech Eng. The amount of vibration might really be well within the belt tolerances, so no real effect on reliability or MTBF of the belts, but it's a concept that I keep coming back to. Sure would like to hear from an engineer though to close my dumb idea out so I can move on with my life, and know which pulley to get - dampened or solid - when I'm ready lol.

RReddington
05-30-2017, 05:09 AM
Great build, inspiring!

bhvrdr
05-30-2017, 06:19 AM
I've been curious to ask you how your killer Chiller is working out with the upgraded heat exchanger that you're using. It looks like I'll be going the same route pretty soon. I'm even thinking about driving over to Crown Motorsport and spending the day at Busch Gardens. I appreciate any information you can give me about how high your intake temperatures are getting now when you really romp on it and how is your a/c performance.

Mike

stereojorge
05-30-2017, 10:40 AM
I've been curious to ask you how your killer Chiller is working out with the upgraded heat exchanger that you're using. It looks like I'll be going the same route pretty soon. I'm even thinking about driving over to Crown Motorsport and spending the day at Busch Gardens. I appreciate any information you can give me about how high your intake temperatures are getting now when you really romp on it and how is your a/c performance.

Mike

Ayyyyyyyy, Tampa Bay bound! Side note, let's grab lunch!


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bhvrdr
05-30-2017, 10:51 AM
Ayyyyyyyy, Tampa Bay bound! Side note, let's grab lunch!


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Right on fellas. I'll let you all know the dates. I really enjoy that side of the state. Used to live in Redington Beach.

Mike

Joker S4
05-30-2017, 11:23 AM
VIR is definitely on my list of tracks that I want to go to. As of now the plan is to do Homestead and Atlanta later this year. Then I'll head north sometime in early 2018.

Just read through your whole post, and Bravo. Well done, and it's a gorgeous car. I was at Hyperfest at VIR a couple weeks ago and just wish I would have known what I could have gotten into. I plan on taking my car there this summer, provided I can get a weekend off.

DBFL
05-30-2017, 11:42 AM
I've been curious to ask you how your killer Chiller is working out with the upgraded heat exchanger that you're using. It looks like I'll be going the same route pretty soon. I'm even thinking about driving over to Crown Motorsport and spending the day at Busch Gardens. I appreciate any information you can give me about how high your intake temperatures are getting now when you really romp on it and how is your a/c performance.

Mike

The Killer Chiller has been fairly good so far. There have been a few hiccups though. The fittings weren't properly tightened by the manufacturer, so I leaked out all the freon early on. Got that fixed and the track valve got stuck, which left me with no A/C and no cooling for the KC. Took out the valve and now it works perfectly. When I stop at a red light, it gets a bit warm in the car unless I rev it to around 1000 rpm. While driving, its ice cold. Loe just bought a case of a different type of freon, so when it comes in I'm going to try that. It should at lease make the coolant even colder.
We went to the track last Thursday and I logged one of my runs. With the KC on in the staging lanes I was seeing IATs around 31C. Temps were in the mid 50s for most of 3rf and 4 th gears with a very brief spike to 61 ( but then back down to 55). IATs would drop back to the low 30s within 5 minutes (about the time it took to get my slip and get back into the staging lanes). I even managed to beat my previous best time by .003 second. Not bad considering the conditions. The DA was just under 2000. I'd have easily knocked a tenth off that time if I had put my track wheels on. I was using the Vorsteiners with Michelin PSS and they wouldn't hook. Tons of wheel spin. But the point was to test the KC in shitty Florida heat and humidity. I'd say it performed quite well.
I can't recommend Crown Motorsports enough. Excellent shop. Let me know when you plan to come up this way and we can catch up.

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Just read through your whole post, and Bravo. Well done, and it's a gorgeous car. I was at Hyperfest at VIR a couple weeks ago and just wish I would have known what I could have gotten into. I plan on taking my car there this summer, provided I can get a weekend off.

Thank you sir.

RReddington
05-30-2017, 03:08 PM
Looking at your set up as I begin to work with mine (2013 6MT), a few questions if you could help:

Which short shifter would you think I should go with? Is the Linkage a must?

If I go H&R Sway bars front and rear, do you know if the Eurocode endlinks will fit? The endlinks seem so expensive relative to the sway bars, do they make a difference?

I'm probably going to be FBO eventually but it is my daily (have been stock for nearly 4 years), which clutch application do you think is best? I've seen your problems with JHM, what would you do if you had to start over ( and if it was a daily driver, although I usually avoid stop-and go traffic and I don't really mind more noise/hardness but obviously would prefer as close to OEM as possible)?

Lastly, I saw you do not recommend the KW coilovers, would you recommend the H&R coilovers? Winters get hectic in Canada so I have to go with coilovers so I raise it a bit in the Winter. Did you look at the PSS-10s? Or are they overkill if I'm never going to track?

I've probably asked too many questions LOL but since you seem so knowledgable would love the feedback! It's difficult coming to conclusions on this forum despite spending hours and hours researching everything.

bhvrdr
05-30-2017, 03:56 PM
The Killet Chiller has been fairly good so far. There have been a few hiccups though. The fittings weren't properly tightened by the manufacturer, so I leaked out all the freon early on. Got that fixed and the track valve got stuck, which left me with no A/C and no cooling for the KC. Took out the valve and now it works perfectly. When I stop at a red light, it gets a bit warm in the car unless I rev it to around 1000 rpm. While driving, its ice cold. Loe just bought a case of a different type of freon, so when it comes in I'm going to try that. It should at lease make the coolant even colder.
We went to the track last Thursday and I logged one of my runs. With the KC on in the staging lanes I was seeing IATs around 31C. Temps were in the mid 50s for most of 3rf and 4 th gears with a very brief spike to 61 ( but then back down to 55). IATs would drop back to the low 30s within 5 minutes (about the time it took to get my slip and get back into the staging lanes). I even managed to beat my previous best time by .003 second. Not bad considering the conditions. The DA was just under 2000. I'd have easily knocked a tenth off that time if I had put my track wheels on. I was using the Vorsteiners with Michelin PSS and they wouldn't hook. Tons of wheel spin. But the point was to test the KC in shitty Florida heat and humidity. I'd say it performed quite well.
I can't recommend Crown Motorsports enough. Excellent shop. Let me know when you plan to come up this way and we can catch up.

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Thank you sir.

Thanks very much for taking the time to give me your impressions. That makes me feel more confident going this route. Time to try out 3.5 pulley ratios with ported blowers now once the cooling is sorted. Who's going to be first :) I'll let you guys know when I head over.
Mike

DBFL
05-31-2017, 12:51 AM
Looking at your set up as I begin to work with mine (2013 6MT), a few questions if you could help:

Which short shifter would you think I should go with? Is the Linkage a must?

If I go H&R Sway bars front and rear, do you know if the Eurocode endlinks will fit? The endlinks seem so expensive relative to the sway bars, do they make a difference?

I'm probably going to be FBO eventually but it is my daily (have been stock for nearly 4 years), which clutch application do you think is best? I've seen your problems with JHM, what would you do if you had to start over ( and if it was a daily driver, although I usually avoid stop-and go traffic and I don't really mind more noise/hardness but obviously would prefer as close to OEM as possible)?

Lastly, I saw you do not recommend the KW coilovers, would you recommend the H&R coilovers? Winters get hectic in Canada so I have to go with coilovers so I raise it a bit in the Winter. Did you look at the PSS-10s? Or are they overkill if I'm never going to track?

I've probably asked too many questions LOL but since you seem so knowledgable would love the feedback! It's difficult coming to conclusions on this forum despite spending hours and hours researching everything.

Short shifter... Mine is from Eurocode, but it's not been on their website for a while now. So it would appear that they no longer sell it. The ECS Tuning shifter seems to be a very similar design, but I have no first hand experience with it. ECS has some of the best customer service around, so perhaps give them a try. As for the linkage, it's not necessary for driving around town. I notice the difference on the track though. Definitely crisper shifts. If you decide to do the linkage, install it at the same time as the shifter. Aligning the shifter is a two person job and will require patience to line it all up correctly.

I would assume that the Eurocode endlinks will fit other sway bars. You have the ability to change just the bars, just the endlinks, or both. So I see no reason why you can't mix and match. I'm very happy with the Eurocode sways, so they would be my recommendation.

If you want the clutch feel to be close to OEM, stay away from anything like the JHM 5R clutch. I'd stay away from JHM completely. They have been nothing but problematic. They are the exact opposite of ECS, shit quality and even worse customer service. If I had to do it over again (I better not or I'll completely lose my shit) I'd probably try Eurocode, although I believe Sachs makes a good clutch.

I had considered a few different coilover setups before buying the KWs. If I were to replace mine I'd absolutely go with PSS10s. I did the KWs because at the time the car was my daily and I wanted the option of electronic damping control. There are some pretty crappy roads around me and if I want to go to Tampa (which I do like 3 times a week during hockey season), I have to go through some heavy construction. This system lets me change the damping on the fly. So when I'm coming up to an area that is bad, I can just hit a button and put it in comfort mode. It's no longer an issue since I have another car, so they have been set to the stiffest setting for the past year or so. The reason I don't like them is because the rear springs are too soft. Softer than stock. So the rear end is quite bouncy at times, especially when going from asphalt to concrete -like when entering/exiting a bridge- or over uneven expansion joints. That said, they have been perfectly fine on the track. I generally say that coilovers are a waste of money unless you plan to track the car or if you need to change ride height for different conditions. So if you feel you will need to raise the car for winter then coilovers may be a good option. I have no experience with driving in the snow and what conditions you will face, as I've only ever seen snow once in my 35 years.

DBFL
05-31-2017, 12:58 AM
I forgot to post this last week when it was done, but I installed a modified slave cylinder that I got from jbullin2. If you are having push to start issues, his solves the problem perfectly. The car starts on the first attempt every time now. Clutch take-up feels much better, and I have rev-matching back. Jae was great to work with. He shipped the part very fast and was quick to answer my PMs. If you have the push to start issue, contact Jae. I can't recommend this enough.

RReddington
05-31-2017, 10:44 AM
Short shifter... Mine is from Eurocode, but it's not been on their website for a while now. So it would appear that they no longer sell it. The ECS Tuning shifter seems to be a very similar design, but I have no first hand experience with it. ECS has some of the best customer service around, so perhaps give them a try. As for the linkage, it's not necessary for driving around town. I notice the difference on the track though. Definitely crisper shifts. If you decide to do the linkage, install it at the same time as the shifter. Aligning the shifter is a two person job and will require patience to line it all up correctly.

I would assume that the Eurocode endlinks will fit other sway bars. You have the ability to change just the bars, just the endlinks, or both. So I see no reason why you can't mix and match. I'm very happy with the Eurocode sways, so they would be my recommendation.

If you want the clutch feel to be close to OEM, stay away from anything like the JHM 5R clutch. I'd stay away from JHM completely. They have been nothing but problematic. They are the exact opposite of ECS, shit quality and even worse customer service. If I had to do it over again (I better not or I'll completely lose my shit) I'd probably try Eurocode, although I believe Sachs makes a good clutch.

I had considered a few different coilover setups before buying the KWs. If I were to replace mine I'd absolutely go with PSS10s. I did the KWs because at the time the car was my daily and I wanted the option of electronic damping control. There are some pretty crappy roads around me and if I want to go to Tampa (which I do like 3 times a week during hockey season), I have to go through some heavy construction. This system lets me change the damping on the fly. So when I'm coming up to an area that is bad, I can just hit a button and put it in comfort mode. It's no longer an issue since I have another car, so they have been set to the stiffest setting for the past year or so. The reason I don't like them is because the rear springs are too soft. Softer than stock. So the rear end is quite bouncy at times, especially when going from asphalt to concrete -like when entering/exiting a bridge- or over uneven expansion joints. That said, they have been perfectly fine on the track. I generally say that coilovers are a waste of money unless you plan to track the car or if you need to change ride height for different conditions. So if you feel you will need to raise the car for winter then coilovers may be a good option. I have no experience with driving in the snow and what conditions you will face, as I've only ever seen snow once in my 35 years.

Thanks a lot for the reply, will take everything into consideration, guess JHM is off my radar. Not sure if Sachs will hold stage 2+ power fine so probably will end up going with Eurocode then. Again, your car looks amazing and is my inspiration, slowly but surely!!

FromRagsToS4
05-31-2017, 10:55 AM
Not sure if Eurocode's clutch kit is any better...

Jake @ JHM has been great with me with customer service. Seems like most of the problems I've heard are regarding their non-R series clutches. Got a 5R in it now that I daily drive and so far it's been fine. Had to get the longer slave cylinder rod, but everything feels fine now. I'm going to take it to the track soon, so we'll see how it does as I push it further and further.

DBFL
05-31-2017, 12:18 PM
Not sure if Eurocode's clutch kit is any better...

Jake @ JHM has been great with me with customer service. Seems like most of the problems I've heard are regarding their non-R series clutches. Got a 5R in it now that I daily drive and so far it's been fine. Had to get the longer slave cylinder rod, but everything feels fine now. I'm going to take it to the track soon, so we'll see how it does as I push it further and further.

Mine seems to work fine now with the longer slave rod. But I feel that JHM should have made sure that their clutch works with the OEM slave. And for me, their customer service has been beyond terrible. They don't respond to any of my emails. I that Jake was helping you, and he even said that he was passing my info along to someone that would get back in touch with me. Nothing. Crickets. I'm glad that they got your issues sorted out, but I've had the opposite experience with them.

Lensch09
05-31-2017, 12:26 PM
Mine seems to work fine now with the longer slave rod. But I feel that JHM should have made sure that their clutch works with the OEM slave. And for me, their customer service has been beyond terrible. They don't respond to any of my emails. I that Jake was helping you, and he even said that he was passing my info along to someone that would get back in touch with me. Nothing. Crickets. I'm glad that they got your issues sorted out, but I've had the opposite experience with them.

Mine works perfect, then again, JHM installed it so maybe their master-techs know something that Crown does not.

-DL

DBFL
05-31-2017, 12:32 PM
Mine works perfect, then again, JHM installed it so maybe their master-techs know something that Crown does not.

-DL

Or perhaps there's a difference between the 3R that you have and my 5R.

FromRagsToS4
05-31-2017, 01:24 PM
Or perhaps there's a difference between the 3R that you have and my 5R.

This. The 3R IS different, even though they are using the same flywheel and pressure plate. My 3R install went off without a hitch. The 5R install gave me the push to start issue as soon as it was installed. The 5R doesn't have a Marcel spring, so it sits higher. Maybe that's why?

This whole S4 clutch thing is boggling everyone involved. Vendor and end user alike. Jake said they've never had a push to start issue when they performed the install and would like to see a case of this with their own eyes so they can have a crack at identifying the issue. I don't understand though... There's only so many things you can do differently on an install. There has to be some geometry inside the bellhousing that is causing this. The pressure plate has alignment holes, so it's not like you can just throw it on there and torque it down without seeing a problem. Everything gets installed flat/flush, so I'm not sure where you could go wrong installing these such that 1 instance you get a perfectly working clutch, and another you have all sorts of issues.

The R series pressure plate has no SAC mechanism in it, so thats no a contributing factor either. What a puzzle...

DBFL
06-28-2017, 07:05 PM
For those of you that have been following my build and know that I was having clutch problems, there is way more to the story.
I have kept it private, as I didn't want to turn it into a public fight. I preferred to let JHM do the right thing. That hasn't happened.

The whole story can be read here: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/771061-Beware-Do-not-buy-from-jhm

DBFL
06-29-2017, 10:36 PM
Son of a bitch!!! All my photos that I have posted on this forum are/were hosted by Photobucket. They now require you to pay a $300 per year subscription fee to do 3rd part hosting. They didn't even give any warning. I don't even know what photos I had posted and where. I'm too exhausted to deal with this now.
So what are my other hosting options? $300 a year is extremely excessive.

stereojorge
06-29-2017, 11:11 PM
Son of a bitch!!! All my photos that I have posted on this forum are/were hosted by Photobucket. They now require you to pay a $300 per year subscription fee to do 3rd part hosting. They didn't even give any warning. I don't even know what photos I had posted and where. I'm too exhausted to deal with this now.
So what are my other hosting options? $300 a year is extremely excessive.

I just use the Tapatalk Hosting when I upload photos right from mobile

Loe
06-30-2017, 07:54 AM
google photos

DBFL
07-01-2017, 10:31 AM
I just use the Tapatalk Hosting when I upload photos right from mobile

I'm not a fan of the tapatalk app. But maybe I'll download it just for uploading photos.

The real problem is that I don't know what pictures I had posted, and not just in this thread. It's going to take quite some time to repost everything.

stereojorge
07-01-2017, 10:32 AM
I'm not a fan of the tapatalk app. But maybe I'll download it just for uploading photos.

The real problem is that I don't know what pictures I had posted, and not just in this thread. It's going to take quite some time to repost everything.

We just discuss why. It makes the mobile AZ experience SO much more streamlined and easy :)

DBFL
07-01-2017, 10:36 AM
We just discuss why. It makes the mobile AZ experience SO much more streamlined and easy :)

We had that conversation at lunch one day. I just don't like the interface. I prefer the web version, even on my phone.

stereojorge
07-01-2017, 10:36 AM
We had that conversation at lunch one day. I just don't like the interface. I prefer the web version, even on my phone.

Oh yeah!

jokingjimmy
07-03-2017, 04:00 AM
Guys we need to do a full Florida or North Florida get together with the Infamous Tampa group Just did a joint drive with Orlando group. Not as big as yours, but we're trying lol. Thinking maybe a North Florida FIRM Jacksonville\Central FLA\Tampa track day when it cools down, or even a simple get together.

Oh and posted this pic using Tapatalk mobile. I hated it at first, but once I got it figured out, works well, especially for pics. For long posts I'll even fire up my Bluetooth keyboard lol.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170703/4359831dc8c8e0aae735d3317daf92e6.jpg

DBFL
07-03-2017, 06:03 AM
Guys we need to do a full Florida or North Florida get together with the Infamous Tampa group Just did a joint drive with Orlando group. Not as big as yours, but we're trying lol. Thinking maybe a North Florida FIRM Jacksonville\Central FLA\Tampa track day when it cools down, or even a simple get together.

Oh and posted this pic using Tapatalk mobile. I hated it at first, but once I got it figured out, works well, especially for pics. For long posts I'll even fire up my Bluetooth keyboard lol.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170703/4359831dc8c8e0aae735d3317daf92e6.jpg

We absolutely need to do a North/Central Florida meetup. Maybe in a couple months when it cools down a little. This 95 degree heat with all the humidity is bullshit. Plus the daily monsoon doesn't help. I'm about to start the process for organizing another private drag strip rental at Bradenton Motorsports Park. But that'll be in January. We should plan a get together/drive before that.

As for tapatalk, I caved. I'm using it to re upload the pictures. I've started the process and have fixed some of the pictures in the main post. It's definitely easy to do. It's just going to take a little while since I have to click on the old link to see what picture it used to be, then find the picture on my phone and reupload it via tapatalk. I just don't like the interface for reading and commenting on posts.
So now it'll be tapatalk for uploading photos, and the web version for everything else.

bhvrdr
07-03-2017, 06:17 AM
OT, but yeah guys. I just tried out Flikr and for the life of me couldnt figure out how to direct 3rd party link so then I tried Imgur which allows it but you have to put the IMG stuff in yourself. Photobucket really was convenient to have those choices in direct links right to the forums... darnit. I like the web view of audizine so you can see who last commented on posts and all that stuff. Im sure eventually i'll cave too. I was a holdout coming over to AZ from audiworld too back in 2003, lol.

Mike

Jroyalty7
07-03-2017, 07:19 AM
OT, but yeah guys. I just tried out Flikr and for the life of me couldnt figure out how to direct 3rd party link so then I tried Imgur which allows it but you have to put the IMG stuff in yourself. Photobucket really was convenient to have those choices in direct links right to the forums... darnit. I like the web view of audizine so you can see who last commented on posts and all that stuff. Im sure eventually i'll cave too. I was a holdout coming over to AZ from audiworld too back in 2003, lol.

Mike
Continuing OT for a moment. If you try/have tried Tapatalk you can go in the settings for each forum and make it so threads with new posts show up bold and ones you've already viewed show up greyed out to show there's no new comments. You can also subscribe to threads and receive notifications, if you want, when theres new posts. With Flickr on the computer you just have to copy your pics address and then use the image link button on Audizine to insert the pic address and it will code it properly to show up in your post. Hope that helps a little

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14S4GWM
07-03-2017, 07:23 AM
^ Mike

I just switched over to https://imgbb.com. Works great, easy to use, fast uploads. Give it a try.

jokingjimmy
07-03-2017, 07:47 PM
We absolutely need to do a North/Central Florida meetup. Maybe in a couple months when it cools down a little. This 95 degree heat with all the humidity is bullshit. Plus the daily monsoon doesn't help. I'm about to start the process for organizing another private drag strip rental at Bradenton Motorsports Park. But that'll be in January. We should plan a get together/drive before that.

As for tapatalk, I caved. I'm using it to re upload the pictures. I've started the process and have fixed some of the pictures in the main post. It's definitely easy to do. It's just going to take a little while since I have to click on the old link to see what picture it used to be, then find the picture on my phone and reupload it via tapatalk. I just don't like the interface for reading and commenting on posts.
So now it'll be tapatalk for uploading photos, and the web version for everything else.
Hey keep us in the loop for the private drag so rental when you do it. There's a few that are interested. I'll keep you guys in the loop when we start planning the FIRM track day...

Mike, drive your butt up the 4 hours and join us lol

DBFL
07-03-2017, 07:51 PM
Hey keep us in the loop for the private drag so rental when you do it. There's a few that are interested. I'll keep you guys in the loop when we start planning the FIRM track day...

Mike, drive your butt up the 4 hours and join us lol

Absolutely. I've been working crazy hours - 12 of the last 13 days and 10+ hours per day. But I'm fairly free for the rest of this week, so I'm planning to start the process. Bradenton Motorsports Park can be a pain when it comes to scheduling.

stereojorge
07-03-2017, 08:13 PM
Guys we need to do a full Florida or North Florida get together with the Infamous Tampa group Just did a joint drive with Orlando group. Not as big as yours, but we're trying lol. Thinking maybe a North Florida FIRM Jacksonville\Central FLA\Tampa track day when it cools down, or even a simple get together.

Oh and posted this pic using Tapatalk mobile. I hated it at first, but once I got it figured out, works well, especially for pics. For long posts I'll even fire up my Bluetooth keyboard lol.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170703/4359831dc8c8e0aae735d3317daf92e6.jpg

Jimmy, let's chat and make this happen :-D


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DBFL
07-06-2017, 09:20 PM
Ok, that was a pain in the ass. All the photos have been fixed. Photobucket didn't make that easy. I couldn't even click on the link to see what the pictures were. I had to log in on my desktop so I could see the file name and full link of every photo on my Photobucket account. Then I had to match the address of the link in the posts here. Once I did that I had to upload the photos from my phone using tapatalk. The tapatalk part was easy, the rest really sucked.

Also, anyone that responded to one of my posts by quoting a post with pictures... The pictures in the replies are still broken. The forum still points to the broken links. So damn annoying. But it's done now. And all future pictures will be uploaded with tapatalk.

jokingjimmy
07-08-2017, 12:30 PM
Jimmy, let's chat and make this happen :-D


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Gwillplays
07-09-2017, 01:43 PM
How did you get an AWE supercharger pulley on your engine? I have a 2016 A6 supercharged car with a bolt on pulley. I was informed that on one makes the appropriate pulley for gear reduction yet. Do you have an item number for this part? Thanks.


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DBFL
07-09-2017, 08:16 PM
How did you get an AWE supercharger pulley on your engine? I have a 2016 A6 supercharged car with a bolt on pulley. I was informed that on one makes the appropriate pulley for gear reduction yet. Do you have an item number for this part? Thanks.


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The S4 supercharger doesn't use bolts for the pulley. But if there's a Stage 2 tune available for your year and model, there should be an available pulley. Alternatively, you could do a larger crank pulley and end up with the same result.

DBFL
07-18-2017, 11:37 PM
A few updates...

The JHM issue has been resolved. Jake was great to deal with and he handled everything well.

The car is currently at Crown Motorsports. Evan asked if he could have the car for a few weeks to "do some stuff." I actually didn't even ask him what this "stuff" is until a day after I dropped off the car.

Now for the bad news. Some of the "stuff" that Evan is doing required removing the supercharger. Well, both my intercoolers are leaking. Quite a bit actually. That sucks. I hadn't noticed any symptoms (mainly misfires on cold starts), but it's possible that the increased NVH from the lightweight flywheel and undampened crank pulley masked the misfire.

Then when I was at Crown, I had them check the tread depth of my tires on my SQ5. They ranged from 3/32 to 5/32. So time for new tires. The plan was to order tires tomorrow. Well, driving tonight I got a TPMS warning. One of the tires was down to 25psi. I filled it hoping that it was just a slow leak. I drove for about 30 minutes, then the car sat for about three hours. I got back in and as soon as I started driving, TPMS warning again. Down to 20psi now. So much for it being a slow leak. I was planning to order from tire rack, but that'll take a few days for delivery. Shit.

So now I'm down to zero working Audis. Ugh. Time for bed.

rhanson
07-19-2017, 08:15 AM
Awesome build DBFL. I especially like the aesthetics.

DBFL
07-19-2017, 08:34 AM
Awesome build DBFL. I especially like the aesthetics.

Thanks

Loe
07-22-2017, 06:05 AM
A few updates...

The JHM issue has been resolved. Jake was great to deal with and he handled everything well.

The car is currently at Crown Motorsports. Evan asked if he could have the car for a few weeks to "do some stuff." I actually didn't even ask him what this "stuff" is until a day after I dropped off the car.

Now for the bad news. Some of the "stuff" that Evan is doing required removing the supercharger. Well, both my intercoolers are leaking. Quite a bit actually. That sucks. I hadn't noticed any symptoms (mainly misfires on cold starts), but it's possible that the increased NVH from the lightweight flywheel and undampened crank pulley masked the misfire.



I've suspected many are leaking without any evident of it leaking aside from occasional lowering in coolant levels out slowly over time (and not due to the usual seasonal changes)

If you were curious for next time, the intercooler part # under VW's catalog is about $70 cheaper ($173, and you can normally save shipping costs if you go to your local VW dealer) CLICK HERE (https://parts.volkswagensantamonica.com/oem-parts/volkswagen-inter-cooler-06e145621r) . Gotta love that Audi tax, makes you wonder what the Porsche equivalent part# pricing is on the hybrid Cayenne/Panamara is...

stereojorge
07-22-2017, 07:07 AM
I've suspected many are leaking without any evident of it leaking aside from occasional lowering in coolant levels out slowly over time (and not due to the usual seasonal changes)

That's me right there! I haven't had any codes, nothing stored, nothing acting weird, but I keep seeing my coolant level drop and I need to bring up to "Max" line :( Standard APR Stage 2 with TCU Tune. OEM everything else.

DBFL
07-22-2017, 08:45 AM
I've suspected many are leaking without any evident of it leaking aside from occasional lowering in coolant levels out slowly over time (and not due to the usual seasonal changes)

I'm sure I would have noticed under normal circumstances. But due to the lightweight flywheel and undampened crank pulley I have a ton of NHV on cold starts (well, all the time actually). And that would have masked the feel of the misfire. And with the transmission coming out plus some of the other work that been done recently, we've had to drain and refill the coolant system a few times. So I couldn't monitor the coolant levels. It really is a good thing that Evan asked to borrow the car to do some "stuff."

Datalogger1
01-06-2018, 11:55 AM
Any more updates on the car? Did you get your leaks fixed?

DBFL
01-07-2018, 12:27 AM
Any more updates on the car? Did you get your leaks fixed?

Iíve been really busy with work, so I havenít had the time to update the thread (or even drive the car much).

Yes, the leaks were fixed. The intercoolers were shot, so they were replaced. While everything was apart the supercharger was ported and polished. And the new intercoolers were coated with a coating to help pull heat out of the air.

Iíll have to try and locate some pictures to do a proper update.

Next up is fixing the front brakes. While swapping to my track wheels last month I noticed that some of the screws that secure the hats to the rotors are loose. Iím assuming that is from expansion and contraction at the track. It turns out that Iíve put over 900 miles on these rotors at Sebring. Iím hoping to have time to do that tomorrow.

Jcam14
01-07-2018, 09:09 AM
so imma be honest, i read the first page and then came to this last page, I was wondering if you have any 1/4 mile times posted as far as slips. Im curious what kind of time your making with all the work done to the car, and what kind of dyno HP did you put down? Amazing build, looks like you have quite a bit of money invested.

DBFL
01-07-2018, 12:18 PM
so imma be honest, i read the first page and then came to this last page, I was wondering if you have any 1/4 mile times posted as far as slips. Im curious what kind of time your making with all the work done to the car, and what kind of dyno HP did you put down? Amazing build, looks like you have quite a bit of money invested.

Dyno sheet is on post #76.

I donít have many 1/4 mile slips as my primary focus is road course tracks. Most of my 1/4 mile slips are from when I was having clutch issues, so they are not a good representation anyway. The best time so far is 11.8, which isnít very good. I havenít been to the strip since the clutch was changed out. Iíll be going on the 20th of this month for a private event that I organized for my local Audi club. So hopefully Iíll get decent results.

DBFL
05-05-2018, 08:30 PM
Time for a quick update...

The S4 has been at Tampa Autosports for the past few months. I had an EPC light come on while at the track a few months ago. It was really nothing major. Got a code for it running lean, this was because of stale gas. I let it sit for too long with MS109 in the tank, which went stale and the car didnít like it too much. A couple tanks for fresh gas took care of that.

The other issue was from a bad supercharger gasket. We took the supercharger off one too many times without changing the gasket. New gasket installed and problem solved.

Since the supercharger had to come off, Evan decided to update the port and polish - itís a bit more aggressive now. And the supercharger housing was sent out to be coated in a material that helps pull heat out of the metal.

An alignment was done while Evan had the car. The specs are perfect, but itís pulling slightly to the right. It appears that I have some brake drag in the front right corner. So Iíll order a rebuild kit for the front calipers. Chances are that one (or more) of the pistons are is sticking a little bit. But since Iíve put nearly 1000 miles on these brakes on the track, Iím not surprised at all.

Yes, all of this could have been done in just a couple days. But I told Evan to put it to the side and work on it in between other jobs. I was really busy with work, trying to complete a few projects before having back surgery twice in two months. So I had no plans to drive the car anyway. And it gave me the opportunity to somewhat organize my garage. And it was nice being able to park the SQ5 in the garage for a little while. Another day of organizing and I might be able to park both cars in the garage.

Iím working on a couple more upgrades. Hopefully in a few more weeks I can get them installed. Iím just waiting for my back to heal from this latest surgery.

In the meantime, here are a couple pictures...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180506/519a9bc6ecd060a18cd2938a7b0ce3dc.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180506/735fdcc657a4b348f6bd95ab07383e02.jpg

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Loe
09-27-2018, 05:01 AM
moved to builds as requested sir

DBFL
09-27-2018, 02:50 PM
moved to builds as requested sir

Thanks Loe!

DBFL
10-17-2018, 11:28 PM
Tapatalk finally updated their iPhone app. So I can upload photos again!!! Thanks for the heads-up Jorge.

As many already know, I got to be the beta tester for Issamís new throttle body upgrade. Throttle response is definitely improved. And the sputter that I had when accelerating from cruising speed without downshifting is completely gone. I guess the car just wanted more air. I canít wait to see how it responds on the track.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181018/9c6ccbf9b16aa00a3dab64566e8c74d5.jpg

My new seats arrived yesterday. RECARO Sportster CS in black vinyl/black alcantara. I wanted a bit more side bolstering for the track. I just have to convince the puppy that they arenít for her.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181018/1c7600b601a7b95974446237dd9759a6.jpg

Plus now I can add harnesses. Iíll be ordering Schroth Quick Fit Pros once I confirm that the buckle is compatible.

The car is at Tampa AutoSports now getting the rear calipers rebuilt. It feels like the pistons may be sticking some and the factory rebuild kit is pretty inexpensive.

Iíll be going to the dyno pretty soon to test the new throttle body on the GIAC race file using MS109.

And my new track pads came in a few days ago as well. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181018/c151a86bc6250700fc6e17aa6738c160.jpg

Ferodo DS1.11 for the front and Hawk DTC-30 for the rear. I really wish that there were better track focused pads available for the rear.

Iím also buying an enclosed trailer to haul the car to the track since I finally bought a truck for work. All just in time to go to Sebring in 2 weeks.

Cleaned up the garage finally (with a lot of help from a couple friends). Finally an organized space where I can park two cars.

Before:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181018/837d2c39c4f7a97007acbfad2a039d8d.jpg

After:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181018/a5f4d8923fded427714fe72b18b443b1.jpg

Thatís it for now. More updates soon.

Edit: I guess I forgot to mention it a few months ago, but I also switched the ECS intake for a Tampa AutoSports intake and removed the killer chiller.

KRp220
10-23-2018, 05:07 AM
couple of questions!
-what size TB did you go with?
-does GIAC have an ETA for the release of the update tune?
-can you elaborate on this? "And the sputter that I had when accelerating from cruising speed without downshifting is completely gone."
thanks!

DBFL
10-23-2018, 11:57 AM
couple of questions!
-what size TB did you go with?
-does GIAC have an ETA for the release of the update tune?
-can you elaborate on this? "And the sputter that I had when accelerating from cruising speed without downshifting is completely gone."
thanks!

75mm
No timetable on a release as far as Iím aware. When GIAC decides the logs look good and they have it all dialed in they will release.
Iím not sure how else to describe the sputter other than how I did. But it only happened on 6mt cars and in Avery early revision of the DP file. That problem has long been fixed. I just never had the newest file flashed.

DBFL
10-27-2018, 01:28 PM
A couple quick shots after washing the car a few nights ago.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181027/19754b400db563faf08bcec635f1f92c.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181027/bf45e32463e5b5e49f4e0bb8b82f6faf.jpg

And I finally bought a trailer to haul the S4 to the track. Much better than that U-Haul crap I was using.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181027/0d66f83819747eacdf7a6135842ca6fd.jpg

The Recaros go in this week - just waiting for the brackets to arrive.

DBFL
10-30-2018, 02:33 PM
A few more parts were delivered for this weekend.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181030/e8a109c849515e3047ef6cfb40c401f4.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181030/8c2483c3a19026d5443884a556b9eb9b.jpg

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Mops@Nemesis
10-30-2018, 02:39 PM
How was I not aware you had an SQ?

Those look crazy wide for 265.

DBFL
10-30-2018, 02:45 PM
How was I not aware you had an SQ?

Those look crazy wide for 265.

Yeah, itís been my daily for the past two and a half years. Itís the longest Iíve ever kept a car (other than the S4 which Iíll never get rid of). Iím just waiting for the Mercedes to be released at the port and Iím trading it in.

The tires are definitely wide. I think itís because they have a more square sidewall. I went with a 265/30 so Iíd have more clearance. I think a 35 would have been an issue.

DBFL
10-31-2018, 03:33 PM
Recaro Sportster CS seats and Schroth QuickFit Pro harnesses installed. I used Recaro sliders (not the best quality) and Planted Technology brackets and spacers.

I coded out the seatbelt chime for now. Iíll make custom wiring harnesses soon to wire the seatbelt sensors back in. Iíll also be making a custom harness so the car thinks that the airbags, seat position sensors, and passenger seat occupancy sensor are all still hooked up. I donít want to stare at an air bag warning light.

Also, the back seat will be going back in when I get back from Sebring. I just canít be bothered doing it now.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181031/ebc58aebc9184efca49b39c82961982c.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181031/27350d7eb98bf855bed3b26aebef9452.jpg

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PBKIDD24
11-02-2018, 10:52 PM
And my new track pads came in a few days ago as well. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181018/c151a86bc6250700fc6e17aa6738c160.jpg

Ferodo DS1.11 for the front and Hawk DTC-30 for the rear. I really wish that there were better track focused pads available for the rear.


You should check out Carbotech. They have a large selection of track dedicated compounds for both the front and rear, as well as street compound for everyday use. A site vendor, Purems, has them available for purchase.

http://ctbrakes.com/faqs.asp#compounds2

DBFL
11-03-2018, 04:11 PM
You should check out Carbotech. They have a large selection of track dedicated compounds for both the front and rear, as well as street compound for everyday use. A site vendor, Purems, has them available for purchase.

http://ctbrakes.com/faqs.asp#compounds2

Thanks. Iíll look into it for next time.

DBFL
11-05-2018, 01:43 PM
Another successful at Sebring. I was able to shave 3.5 seconds off my previous personal best lap time. I have to pull the SD card from my dash cam and go through nearly 7 hours of footage (I forgot to pack my GoPro). In the meantime, here are a few photos...

The view from the balcony of my hotel room

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181105/6bf789553e5a5465c2cde8411d74e910.jpg

A couple shots of the car

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181105/4f619a4ec36d139070da099c501dacde.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181105/3214fcd7d2eb64fdedf199767347ad5a.jpg

My broken windshield... A bug flew into the car as I was going on track. I lightly swatted it while wearing a padded glove yet somehow this was the result.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181105/f68f7ba15c5225ebe33b397cc5d64b66.jpg

This thing was out there too

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181105/4b8307006afa36135c2bf535f7f190a7.jpg

bhvrdr
11-05-2018, 07:09 PM
I'm enjoying your build very much! So when does this go from occasional lap day car to getting a cage? Is there an over under pool on this yet?

Mike

DBFL
11-05-2018, 08:11 PM
I'm enjoying your build very much! So when does this go from occasional lap day car to getting a cage? Is there an over under pool on this yet?

Mike

Thanks.
And hell no for the cage. Thatíll never happen. But I am going to start looking for a used Cayman that I can strip and put a cage into.

Antimatter
11-13-2018, 10:01 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181105/4f619a4ec36d139070da099c501dacde.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181105/3214fcd7d2eb64fdedf199767347ad5a.jpg

Looks DOPE! What size and offset are those wheels?

Thanks

DBFL
11-13-2018, 10:05 PM
Looks DOPE! What size and offset are those wheels?

Thanks

Thanks.
The wheels are 19x9 et40