Front Brake (Pads & Rotors) Recommendations

[JWreck]

Hi everyone,

Searched through the forum, found a mess of $#&!, decided to garner feedback myself.

I'm looking at replacing front pads and rotors. Looking for recommendations from folks who have used various brands, including OEM. Unlike a lot of people it seems, I really actually like the bite of the OEM pads. I don't track the car, daily use, sometimes aggressive (OK lots of aggressive) driving. Also want to get feedback from folks who have used them for a while to make sure after bedding them in there's no issues either.

Thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

PS Dealer wanted $1k. [o_o]

[Pyromatic177]

Akebono are great pads with minimal dust. Rotors, everyone likes the ECS rotors.

[Dakkath]

I'd have to admit, I'd do Akebono + ECS Rotors if/when I have to do mine.

1000 bucks? I'd have a chat with the SA on that bullshit.

[whiped]

The Akebono pads lack the bite he states that he likes.

The Stoptech/Hawk pads others are running seem to maintain the bite a little bit.

[jsh139]

$1K for pads and rotors is par for the course if you go through the dealer. I've heard that magic number so many times. Get some Akebono pads and Zimmerman rotors and be done with it. Go to an independent shop if you don't want to do the work yourself. In fact, depending on the condition/thickness of the rotors, you might just be able to lightly resurface them. Dealer will almost always say they can't be resurfaced.

[JWreck]

Never heard of Akebono until I started searching this forum. No idea of their reputation. Seems like others like them, but sounds like they lack a bite. In the end I'm ok with that but they still need to stop well.

I'd rather just get new pads and rotors at the same time rather than resurface them. Definitely will do the work myself.

[EstorilS4]

I've run EBC redstuff pads with their USR slotted rotors on previous cars (specifically, G35 sedan 6MT) and loved the setup for "spirited" street driving (never used on the track). Absolutely silent operation with almost zero brake dust (basically the OPPOSITE of these damn stock S4 pads!)

Do people on here not like EBC for some reason that we newbie Audi owners should know about?

[JWreck]

I've run EBC redstuff pads with their USR slotted rotors on previous cars (specifically, G35 sedan 6MT) and loved the setup for "spirited" street driving (never used on the track). Absolutely silent operation with almost zero brake dust (basically the OPPOSITE of these damn stock S4 pads!)

Do people on here not like EBC for some reason that we newbie Audi owners should know about?

Actually the last car I had EBC on, I hated them. They didn't last, they never bedded in quite right (you can blame me if you want, but never had a problem with other brands).

[hotleadsingergu]

Akebono is easily the way to go for the pads, and ECS makes great rotors (slotted, not drilled).

Buy the pads separately (front and rear) on Amazon. ECS had them for like $180, I think, but I got the full set for $130 on Amazon, brand new. Rotors just buy from ECS.

It's honestly easy enough to change all 4 in an afternoon, and you'll save yourself probably $500 and get a better final product.

[hotleadsingergu]

As for the bite...it's true, there's reduced initial bite. They still stop perfectly, though. They're smoother, from start to finish, which is preferable if you're not tracking the car. If you *are* tracking the car regularly, you should be switching out pads when you hit the track. The Akebonos will take it, but after probably 2-3 runs you should be changing the pads anyway.

[Davido1]

Just installed Adams Rotors and Akebono pads all around. Definitely reduced initial bite, but overall very happy with this setup.

[cspcrx]

I got quoted the same as you from my dealer. I picked up ECS rotors and Akebono pads, on sale, and did the work myself. A lot less and much better parts and looks.
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[EstorilS4]

Actually the last car I had EBC on, I hated them. They didn't last, they never bedded in quite right (you can blame me if you want, but never had a problem with other brands).

Curious, did you run them with the stock rotors or EBC rotors? Was contemplating keeping the stock rotors when I swap the pads since they only have 30k miles on them. My prior experience with EBC was only when replacing both pads and rotors.

Also, did you run the redstuff pads or something else from EBC?

[Zaxon55]

I initially did OEM sized stoptech rotors and street performance pads.
http://i.imgur.com/m3sebBk.jpg

They were good, but if I was staying OEM+ I would have gone with ESC rotors and Hawk or Carbotech pads.

[torinalth]

if you go hawk, just reconsider HPS pads, ive never liked them and they are routinely loud and not very good. If you dont want to give up the initial bite then consider stoptech pads and powerslot rotors. If I wasn't set on low dust and no noise (akebono pads and resurfaced OEM rotors) I'd have gone that route.

[A4 Centaur]

I went with the Hawk Ceramic Pads for both the 380mm Stoptech fronts and the S4 rears.

Also running the Stoptech slotted rotors.

[jimrobbington]

Never heard of Akebono until I started searching this forum. No idea of their reputation. Seems like others like them, but sounds like they lack a bite. In the end I'm ok with that but they still need to stop well.

I'd rather just get new pads and rotors at the same time rather than resurface them. Definitely will do the work myself.
I ran Akebono on my stage 2+ A4. Yes, they lack that initial bite from the factory, but they are more linear, and the responsiveness is better overall. It's very easy to get used to the new breaking characteristics and enjoy them better than before. The anti-dust and Andi-squeal are plenty of enhancement for me.

That being said, I believe that what I just ordered is the best/cheapest OEM+ setup you can get. Meyle rotors and Akebono pads from FCPeuro.com (free shipping option, otherwise shipping is still 900% cheaper than ECS). The whole setup with shipping cost me $404.

[kpykng1]

I've used R1 concepts pads and rotors before on my SS and they were great. So last week I bit the bullet and ordered all new pads and rotors for my S4, the R1 premier series ones. I'll post up some picks when they arrive. They had a father's day coupon code for 12% off and free shipping.

[sacandagaD]

Akebono are great pads with minimal dust. Rotors, everyone likes the ECS rotors.

This. I have ECS slotted up front and stock rotors on the back. The car has sat outside for last two weeks, so the rears have the usual surface rust on them but the ECS rotors look like new.

[XLR8 Craig]

We use StopTech Street Performance pads and slotted sport rotors on cars that are looking for a bit more than stock and not quite ready for a Big Brake Kit. We also use Zimmerman rotors with Akebono for those who want quality replacements, low dust/noise but don't want to sacrifice performance. Never had any complaints with our recommendations so far.

You can view our discount pricing on Stoptech parts right here on our website http://vag.excelerateperformance.com/stoptech/b-10217.aspx

[JWreck]

So after reading through everyone's suggestions, I think I've narrowed it down to ?? options:

ECS rotors + Akebono Pads
ECS rotors + StopTech Pads
StopTech rotors + StopTech pads

Is it worth getting slotted for the front only for a $100 price jump? Anyone think it looks weird having slotted front rotors and solid rears?

[Bruno_s4]

No discussion of the new Hawk HPS 5.0 pads?
I will report back my feelings in the next couple weeks....

[sacandagaD]

So after reading through everyone's suggestions, I think I've narrowed it down to ?? options:

ECS rotors + Akebono Pads
ECS rotors + StopTech Pads
StopTech rotors + StopTech pads

Is it worth getting slotted for the front only for a $100 price jump? Anyone think it looks weird having slotted front rotors and solid rears?

It doesn't look weird at all because the rotor is still solid, and the slots are not really noticeable unless you are up close anyway. I'd say slotted and drilled might look odd.

[El Presidente]

I replaced my oem pads/rotors to Hawk 5.0 pads and Zimmerman rotors. So far so good!

[WJN S4]

I did Stoptech drilled and Hawk HPS 5.0... much better and solid feel than stock, stronger, and no dust. Definitely consider that combo

[bayonet14]

I got quoted the same as you from my dealer. I picked up ECS rotors and Akebono pads, on sale, and did the work myself. A lot less and much better parts and looks.
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I just did this combination - and if all you have is the supplied car jack - you can do all the work yourself and save ;)

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[JWreck]

Hawk seems to be about double the cost of the others. For Stoptech pads, is everyone using Street or Sport?

[S4'ed]

Zimmerman rotors, Mintex of Pagid pads (OEM, good initial bite, lots of dust), or Akebono (less initial bite, much less dust)

[JWreck]

Why is this such a hard decision!

I'm going with ECS slotted rotors. Still deciding on pads. Stoptech, Hawk or Akebono are in the running. As I understand it, Akebono is similar power to stock with less dust and less bite. Stoptech may be same bite as stock and less dust? Hawk seems to be rated 50/50 on whether they're noisy, but everyone seems to agree they have more power and bite than stock.

[s42014DSG]

Why is this such a hard decision!

I'm going with ECS slotted rotors. Still deciding on pads. Stoptech, Hawk or Akebono are in the running. As I understand it, Akebono is similar power to stock with less dust and less bite. Stoptech may be same bite as stock and less dust? Hawk seems to be rated 50/50 on whether they're noisy, but everyone seems to agree they have more power and bite than stock.

HPS 5.0 doesn't have more bite than stock in my experience. I generally also feel less safe with them than I did stock. With less bite initially there's always this sinking feeling that you may not stop in time unless you truly stomp on the brakes - not a feeling I'm a fan of after a couple of months using HPS.

[JWreck]

HPS 5.0 doesn't have more bite than stock in my experience. I generally also feel less safe with them than I did stock. With less bite initially there's always this sinking feeling that you may not stop in time unless you truly stomp on the brakes - not a feeling I'm a fan of after a couple of months using HPS.

This is exactly what I'm afraid of. I'm just not sure if it's a warranted fear. I mean, technically all of these pads should be as good as OEM, it just might take some retraining of the legs

[s42014DSG]

This is exactly what I'm afraid of. I'm just not sure if it's a warranted fear. I mean, technically all of these pads should be as good as OEM, it just might take some retraining of the legs

It certainly will and has with me. What I find is: either you brake well in advance and come to a gentle stop or you pile on the pressure. I haven't found a happy medium quite yet. 8/10 times it inspires the necessary confidence.

[JWreck]

Maybe I can deal with the dust and just go OEM. But the squealing in the cold is what kills me the most.

[jimrobbington]

I don't get it. It's not like any of these options provide worse breaking ability, they merely change the characteristics of the braking feel. You will be 100% used to the new braking style required within days.

[B8Addict]

I went with zimmerman rotors and textar brake pads(oem suppler) for my rears. Total cost was $187 from pelican parts for everything. Installed myself. Love the OEM bite and don't care about brake dust.

[mcoomer]

Dust sucks but I went with the stock pads when it came time to replace them. I'm like you...I like the bite. Not that I enjoy being cut off, but it happens sometimes when ass hats jump lanes and I like knowing the OE pads bite hard enough to clean the seats when you stand on them. Like that bite.

Mike

[jamesj2k]

Akebono Ultra Premium ceramic. Have then for 30k+ miles. No problems and almost no brake dust!

[JWreck]

Thanks again for your input, everyone. I think I'm going to call up ECS and pull the trigger on the slotted one piece rotors and Akebobo pads.

Everyone seems to use the two piece, are the one piece slotted rotors still good?

[JWreck]

What size of socket do we need for the stock lugs?

[jimrobbington]

Thanks again for your input, everyone. I think I'm going to call up ECS and pull the trigger on the slotted one piece rotors and Akebobo pads.

Everyone seems to use the two piece, are the one piece slotted rotors still good?
Get ready to be bent over on shipping!

[whiped]

Get ready to be bent over on shipping!

I laughed pretty hard at this...

Sadly it's very true!

[JWreck]

Get ready to be bent over on shipping!

It was free...?

[jimrobbington]

I laughed pretty hard at this...

Sadly it's very true!
Like seriously, this day and age, ECS is ridiculous with their shipping charges. If I can get something that ECS carries anywhere else, I will. Because it will be cheaper if for no other reason than shipping. I upgraded my free shipping from fcpeuro for 9.99 and got all my rotors/pads in under 5 days. ECS wanted almost $90 for their cheapest shipping option on the exact same order.

[jimrobbington]

It was free...?
Unheard of! Did you have a coupon? Or trade ZJs?

[JWreck]

Unheard of! Did you have a coupon? Or trade ZJs?

No....just called, placed my order after asking a few questions, and shipping was free. They said it would be here by Thursday.

[Vanimal]

I have those 2 piece ECS rotors on my S5. Here's what they look like after a 1-2 PA winters on a "well kept" car. I'm hoping it's just dried residue as its hard to clean them with the wheel on. I'm pretty OCD with my car ,I clean it weekly I never let it go or dirt cake on my wheels.

I called ECS about getting a replacement hat part, but they say they no longer sell that part due to liability reasons. He said its prob dried residue that needs to be scrubbed & blasted off. They deff aren't as black as they were new, which is expected. I have new wheels coming in this week. I'm going to scrub the rotor hat with some 1:1 All purpose while I have the wheels off with a toothbrush. I have a ECS 20mm spacer on the rear to get me flush with the stock 19's. Which shows the rotor hat more than normal since the wheel is pushed out about 1" off the hub. I won't be running spacers with my new wheels as they are the perfect fit offset wise.

Again i am hoping its just dried chalky residue which it seems. I normally use a hand mitt to wash my wheels so its hard to get back to the rotor hats. & i keep forgetting to get a proper cleaning brush to get in there. I will scrub them good when i have the wheels off this week. [wrench]

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[SportVier]

^Wow. OP, I think you made the right call on the one-piece rotors. [up]

[Vanimal]

Don't get me wrong they are nice. Luckily they came on my car when I bought it so beggars can't be choosers. But if I were ever to replace them I wouldn't spend $1,200 "$599" a set to get them again. I have them paired with hawk pads.

Once my new wheels are on with the spacers off the hat part should be hidden much better.




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[Thurston]

Hi everyone,

Searched through the forum, found a mess of $#&!, decided to garner feedback myself.

I'm looking at replacing front pads and rotors. Looking for recommendations from folks who have used various brands, including OEM. Unlike a lot of people it seems, I really actually like the bite of the OEM pads. I don't track the car, daily use, sometimes aggressive (OK lots of aggressive) driving. Also want to get feedback from folks who have used them for a while to make sure after bedding them in there's no issues either.

Thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

PS Dealer wanted $1k. [o_o]

I have to agree with the "unlike most people i actually like the bite of the oem brakes" - I do to and in fact I see it as one of the strengths on this car but nevertheless it is repeatedly bashed in reviews unanimously.

[JWreck]

So, anyone know the socket size for the lugs?

[14S4GWM]

I can't remember off the top of my head but don't you have a socket set laying around for a quick test fit.

[XLR8 Craig]

17mm :)

[sacandagaD]

I have to agree with the "unlike most people i actually like the bite of the oem brakes" - I do to and in fact I see it as one of the strengths on this car but nevertheless it is repeatedly bashed in reviews unanimously.

I have not noticed any real loss of "bite" with the Akebono's over stock. Perhaps it is because the pads "dig" into the slotted rotors more?

[cspcrx]

^+1

[StatusQuo]

Get a Brakemotive kit from eBay. I have personally used them and have have nothing but good things to say about them.

They are not the typical eBay quality although they are only sold on eBay.

They are cross-drilled and slotted and have very good initial bite. You can find a pad/rotor combo as well.

The person who I have installed for has put over 50k on them and there are no signs of cracking on the rotors and she drives aggressive as hell.

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[Loe]

can someone supply part #'s for the akebono pads front/rear?

[jsh139]

can someone supply part #'s for the akebono pads front/rear?

Front: 8K0698151H
Rear: EUR1018

ECS also sells them as a kit with a different part #: https://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-B8_S4-Quattro-3.0T/Braking/Pads/ES2763651/

[14S4GWM]

^ Make sure to get a new wear sensor too.

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

FYI our performance rotors and service kits including ECS rotors are all free shipping. They have been this way for some time.

Click HERE (https://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-B8_S4-Quattro-3.0T/Braking/Performance/Front_-and-_Rear/?salesrep=JMarusic&utm_source=audizine&utm_medium=forum&utm_content=JMarusic&utm_campaign=postreply)

Jason

[ynottony]

Not to hijack the thread, but my SA told me that if I were to do the brakes myself, I would need a tool (VAG-COM or something) to be able to release the rear caliper because of the electronic parking brake. Is that true?

[14S4GWM]

Not to hijack the thread, but my SA told me that if I were to do the brakes myself, I would need a tool (VAG-COM or something) to be able to release the rear caliper because of the electronic parking brake. Is that true?

Yes, several threads on this.

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Working_on_the_Electro-Mechanical_Parking_Brake_(EPB)

[jimrobbington]

I have not noticed any real loss of "bite" with the Akebono's over stock. Perhaps it is because the pads "dig" into the slotted rotors more?
Weird. Impossible not to notice the first time you brake after install. Not that I'm complaining, I love that the akebono feel much more linear. But first time I braked the other day after install, got a little butterfly in my stomach for sure.

[14S4GWM]

Weird. Impossible not to notice the first time you brake after install. Not that I'm complaining, I love that the akebono feel much more linear. But first time I braked the other day after install, got a little butterfly in my stomach for sure.

I can actually coast and creep up into my garage instead of felling like I jammed the pedal to the floor 6 times. It was a huge difference to me.

[sacandagaD]

Weird. Impossible not to notice the first time you brake after install. Not that I'm complaining, I love that the akebono feel much more linear. But first time I braked the other day after install, got a little butterfly in my stomach for sure.

Do you have slotted rotors as well? I was very easy on the brakes until I got out on the road and did a break in on them. I bet I didn't do 30 mph until I got on open road, people probably thought I was like a 100 year old Florida driver.

[jimrobbington]

Do you have slotted rotors as well? I was very easy on the brakes until I got out on the road and did a break in on them. I bet I didn't do 30 mph until I got on open road, people probably thought I was like a 100 year old Florida driver.
Not on this car, but I did on my previous car with Akebono. Seemed about the same difference iirc.

[Loe]

Front: 8K0698151H
Rear: EUR1018

ECS also sells them as a kit with a different part #: https://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-B8_S4-Quattro-3.0T/Braking/Pads/ES2763651/

What's the difference between the above akebono front part # and the EUR1322A for the fronts?

[waxxonMTL]

I have to agree with the "unlike most people i actually like the bite of the oem brakes" - I do to and in fact I see it as one of the strengths on this car but nevertheless it is repeatedly bashed in reviews unanimously.

i appreciate the oem bite too.. in 8 month of owenership, i believe i heard 2-3 squeal.. i really don't understand why i'm getting so little squeal or most ppl on here, never drove a sport car before the s4 and have no point of reference. I'm about 25% of my brake pad and needs to start thinking about a replacement.. thinking akebono or oem again.

[xuandatou]

I would say it depends on you wanna hard bite or quiet & low brake dust ?

[jsh139]

What's the difference between the above akebono front part # and the EUR1322A for the fronts?

Hmm. I think that the pads are different for B8 vs B8.5. Rock Auto sells both EUR1322 and EUR1322A. ECS only sells EUR1322A and 8K0698151H (citing that it is a EUR1322). Might be worth an email to ECS to make sure you get the right pads. Sorry I can't be more help [:(]

[Loe]

Hmm. I think that the pads are different for B8 vs B8.5. Rock Auto sells both EUR1322 and EUR1322A. ECS only sells EUR1322A and 8K0698151H (citing that it is a EUR1322). Might be worth an email to ECS to make sure you get the right pads. Sorry I can't be more help [:(]

I went ahead and reviewed Akebono's website. Seems like EURO1322A can be used on the B8.5 S5 (I didn't look for all years). I went ahead and ordered the 1322A's, I'm at about 30% life left, my pad sensors have not come on but my brakes make a horrible grinding noise braking hard from higher speeds, and I'm getting sick and tire of the brake dust from the OEM pads

[jsh139]

Obviously, make sure you check the condition of your rotors, too.

[dls11b8]

Not to hijack the thread, but my SA told me that if I were to do the brakes myself, I would need a tool (VAG-COM or something) to be able to release the rear caliper because of the electronic parking brake. Is that true?

NO. Using VAG-COM is the factory preffered method, but it is not the ONLY method.

If you don't have the tool, just unscrew the EPB module from the back of the caliper, turn the screw in manually, re-assemble, and proceed like normal brakes.

[14S4GWM]

Hmm. I think that the pads are different for B8 vs B8.5. Rock Auto sells both EUR1322 and EUR1322A. ECS only sells EUR1322A and 8K0698151H (citing that it is a EUR1322). Might be worth an email to ECS to make sure you get the right pads. Sorry I can't be more help [:(]


I went ahead and reviewed Akebono's website. Seems like EURO1322A can be used on the B8.5 S5 (I didn't look for all years). I went ahead and ordered the 1322A's, I'm at about 30% life left, my pad sensors have not come on but my brakes make a horrible grinding noise braking hard from higher speeds, and I'm getting sick and tire of the brake dust from the OEM pads

I ordered my Akebonos from ECS last year and I believe one model has the wear sensor and one doesn't. The model I ordered was supposed to come with a wear sensor and did not. I called ECS and they shipped me one. Just a heads up for you guys, you may want to ask about that.

[Loe]

I ordered my Akebonos from ECS last year and I believe one model has the wear sensor and one doesn't. The model I ordered was supposed to come with a wear sensor and did not. I called ECS and they shipped me one. Just a heads up for you guys, you may want to ask about that.

gr8, thank you for the heads-up. When I looked at the photo's on Amazon, it looks as though the "A" designation had a brake sensor, however I'm not near the sensor yet so my understanding is that it should be reusable so I'm not too worried.

[waxxonMTL]

how much can a set of front caliper S4 can go for ? do they sell quickly to a4 owner ?

[JWreck]

Are you guys using adhesive on the outer pads like the OEM ones?

[14S4GWM]

Are you guys using adhesive on the outer pads like the OEM ones?

I didn't, just greased em up.

[jimrobbington]

how much can a set of front caliper S4 can go for ? do they sell quickly to a4 owner ?
The calipers are exactly the same on the S4 as on the A4. The only difference is the caliper CARRIER, FYI.

[waxxonMTL]

The calipers are exactly the same on the S4 as on the A4. The only difference is the caliper CARRIER, FYI.

so it's worth nothing lol.. guess i will stay s4 then and screw the q5.

[jimrobbington]

so it's worth nothing lol.. guess i will stay s4 then and screw the q5.
I mean, they are still worth something, there's just no demand. Lol.

[fignewton]

Had my warning go on Saturday, so started reading through all the threads on rotors and pads. Decided to stay with the OEM pads, as I like the bite and performance. Went with StopTech slotted Sport Rotors, as I've run ST BBK before on my TT, and figured they'd be good quality. I also thought from some posts that they were made in USA. Just got the boxes, and nope... Made in China. Milling finish and coating looks very good though, even on vanes and edges of disks. So, if anyone is wondering about the origin of rotors now you know about StopTech sports.
Fig

[Loe]

I went ahead and reviewed Akebono's website. Seems like EURO1322A can be used on the B8.5 S5 (I didn't look for all years). I went ahead and ordered the 1322A's, I'm at about 30% life left, my pad sensors have not come on but my brakes make a horrible grinding noise braking hard from higher speeds, and I'm getting sick and tire of the brake dust from the OEM pads

Quick update, my pads arrived and I can confirm the EURO1322A comes with the front brake pad sensors.

[waxxonMTL]

Quick update, my pads arrived and I can confirm the EURO1322A comes with the front brake pad sensors.

you had oem pad before ? let us know how it feel ? with my recent stg2.. i realised im going throught pad a lot quicker than anticipated LOLLL :) i will need new one.. thinking rebuying oem or akebono. seems like hawks are hit or miss and not much recommanded for cold temp.

[JWreck]

So I installed Akebono pads and ECS slotted rotors a few weeks ago. Was loving them, nice and dustless, no squealing....until today where I was driving spiritedly, and coming to a quick stop, I had some shuddering. A little concerning as I never had this on the stock brakes.

[sacandagaD]

So I installed Akebono pads and ECS slotted rotors a few weeks ago. Was loving them, nice and dustless, no squealing....until today where I was driving spiritedly, and coming to a quick stop, I had some shuddering. A little concerning as I never had this on the stock brakes.

I've got a few thousand miles on the same set-up and haven't had any shuddering under hard even braking. Haven't panic stopped them, but I would imagine you would get some shudder from the pads biting the slots if you really mashed them.

[stoked_S4]

I need to replace front brake pads soon. Not sure if I need new rotors or resurfacing will suffice for now. Has anyone upgraded their brakes lines to stainless steel who are running Akebono pads? This combo may bring back OEM initial bite.

I like the OEMs initial bite as well and will put up with some winter brake noise and some dust(have dark black optic wheels that don't show dust as bad as silver color peelers).

If I go OEM pads any issues running ECS geomet slotted rotors? Anyone running this combo who can provide a feedback?

[A.C.]

I need to replace front brake pads soon. Not sure if I need new rotors or resurfacing will suffice for now. Has anyone upgraded their brakes lines to stainless steel who are running Akebono pads? This combo may bring back OEM initial bite.

I like the OEMs initial bite as well and will put up with some winter brake noise and some dust(have dark black optic wheels that don't show dust as bad as silver color peelers).

If I go OEM pads any issues running ECS geomet slotted rotors? Anyone running this combo who can provide a feedback?
I just ordered that same setup from ECS tuning with Hawk pads. Currently my car is under the knife with body and performance mods. I should have the car back near Mid September. .hopefully

[sirsycott]

i've gone through several brake setups on many cars

here's my summary
EBC reds - brake dust still an issue and loss of bite, didn't fade well
Hawk HPS - great drive, similar to oem bite, but stronger stompdown so better stopping power (more pressure, car wants to stop even more)
Stoptech Street (provided with bbk) - similar to oem bite, more dust than oem, pads were very brittle and started to crumble (had to replace due to premature failure)
Akebono - pretty noticeable loss of bite, brake fade a little better than ebc red, but i wouldn't take these to a canyon for spirited driving


my next set of pads , might be hawk HP Plus , just as i'm looking for more track oriented and harsh conditions to cater to

[SDBolts]

IMHO, Carbotech 1521 (Used to be the Bobcat) are the best pads out there. Great feel, good fade resistance for a street pad, minimal dusting and excellent lifespan.

[A.C.]

IMHO, Carbotech 1521 (Used to be the Bobcat) are the best pads out there. Great feel, good fade resistance for a street pad, minimal dusting and excellent lifespan.
I was thinking about Carbotech once I noticed NGP was selling them. But a little more than what I wanted to spend.

[stoked_S4]

Thinking about sticking with OEM's. Does anyone know who have the best prices on OEM rotors & pads?

[Johnnycash]

I need to replace front brake pads soon. Not sure if I need new rotors or resurfacing will suffice for now. Has anyone upgraded their brakes lines to stainless steel who are running Akebono pads? This combo may bring back OEM initial bite.

I like the OEMs initial bite as well and will put up with some winter brake noise and some dust(have dark black optic wheels that don't show dust as bad as silver color peelers).

If I go OEM pads any issues running ECS geomet slotted rotors? Anyone running this combo who can provide a feedback?

i have ecs drilled slotted geomet with ss brake line on the fronts w akebonos, and stoptech cryotech drilled rotors with ss lines on the rears and akebonos, will never go back to a stock setup and for daily driving the difference for me was negligible, they work fine when pushed hard and the non-brake dust factor is night and day.

[jsh139]

Thinking about sticking with OEM's. Does anyone know who have the best prices on OEM rotors & pads?

Try: https://genuineaudiparts.com/parts/2014/Audi/S4/?siteid=214407&searchText=

[stoked_S4]

Thnx.

Was about to order OEM but saw this review

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/601251-A-beginners-guide-to-selecting-rotors-written-by-a-begiiner-after-lots-of-research

and order these:

http://brakeperformance.com/brake-rotors/premium-dimpled-&-slotted-brake-kit-black-zinc-coating.php

[LYKUNO]

Has anyone ever used "Frozen Rotors (http://www.frozenrotors.com/category/frozen-rotors/)" from Diversified Cryogenics? They've been around for a long time (since my VR6 GTI days) and offer a variety of standard, slotted and cross-drilled/slotted rotors as well as pad types. Never used them myself but was intrigued by the concept.

[subzero05]

had good past experiences with EBC..

[engr_dave]

I just replaced my fronts with Akebono ceramic pads and Zimmerman rotors on Labor Day. The reduction in "bite" is quite noticeable, but I already like it: More linear, easier to modulate... yet still stops hard when you want it to.

Note of caution: My OE outer pads were glued on, so, being the anal person I am, I carefully cleaned the adhesive residue off of the caliper face with lacquer thinner. Some of the thinner dribbled through the hole in the caliper and around the front side and streaked one side's "S4" logo. Dammit.

[JS81]

Going with Girodisk rotors this winter. Pricey upfront but consider total cost of ownership. If they last twice as long as other brands....

Guys on 6speedonline have been giving them a beating at the track and they hold up great.

Plus the sales manager (Mike) is an Audi guy with a B5

[JWreck]

So, I'm approaching about 9 months on the ECS rotors and Akebono pads. I'm starting to look at replacing them because I don't like the feel and the grinding noise from them. They lack bite, I feel like I had less stopping power and they get a lovely grinding/moaning sound under heavy braking. I think I'd rather deal with the dust.

Just wanted to check in and provide some feedback. YMMV.

[k9lovr]

So, I'm approaching about 9 months on the ECS rotors and Akebono pads. I'm starting to look at replacing them because I don't like the feel and the grinding noise from them. They lack bite, I feel like I had less stopping power and they get a lovely grinding/moaning sound under heavy braking. I think I'd rather deal with the dust.

Just wanted to check in and provide some feedback. YMMV.

How many miles have you put on in those 9 months? Any salt from winter in Tx?

[JWreck]

How many miles have you put on in those 9 months? Any salt from winter in Tx?

Probably 10-12k miles. No salt.


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[dls11b8]

So, I'm approaching about 9 months on the ECS rotors and Akebono pads. I'm starting to look at replacing them because I don't like the feel and the grinding noise from them. They lack bite, I feel like I had less stopping power and they get a lovely grinding/moaning sound under heavy braking. I think I'd rather deal with the dust.

Just wanted to check in and provide some feedback. YMMV.

I'm in the same boat. I've had the akebonos for almost a year, and they are to the point where they scare me if I need to brake hard. I get about 3-5 seconds of continuous moderate/hard braking (say, 70-25mph) before they start to fade, and performance drops off sharply after that. To the point that I have almost 0 braking power after they get hot. I also get that grinding noise.. at first I thought it was the tires, but it stayed through tire swaps and rotations.. and only happens under braking.

I'm thinking I'll try a hawk pad next. The initial bite I don't mind, but I couldn't stand the dust on the oe pads.


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[absolutarin]

You'll get more brake power (or probably better bite than OEM) and way lesser brake dust with EBC Red stuff. Top notch quality!! I've been using them since last October and I DD this car. ~8k+ miles with them - fall through winter through spring, and still haven't found a single thing to gripe about.

For the rotors, I've seen ECS tuning selling their own and a few StopTech ones too. I haven't personally used aftermarket rotors so can't talk about them. But one thing I can say is that they'll affect your wheel setup so make sure you have enough room to clear if you go the BBK way.

Good luck and let us know your experience. Cheers! [emoji482]


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[doppyflong]

This last page really steered me away from Akebono... Just ordered the EBC slotted/ dimpled rotors and RedStuff pads for front and rear. Will update once installed, which is hopefully soon because I can not wait to get to the land of no brake dust!

If anyone else is looking, they have a nice little special for $90 off and free shipping on their site... Ended up $449 out the door.

edit: Does anyone have any input on doing stainless brake lines? Not going to track the car but wondering if I'll see any improvements around town or during spirited driving.

[jimrobbington]

This last page really steered me away from Akebono... Just ordered the EBC slotted/ dimpled rotors and RedStuff pads for front and rear. Will update once installed, which is hopefully soon because I can not wait to get to the land of no brake dust!

If anyone else is looking, they have a nice little special for $90 off and free shipping on their site... Ended up $449 out the door.

edit: Does anyone have any input on doing stainless brake lines? Not going to track the car but wondering if I'll see any improvements around town or during spirited driving.
Lol @ your name

From what I've been told, upgrading brake fluid alone would probably be your best street option for the money.

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[whiped]

This last page really steered me away from Akebono... Just ordered the EBC slotted/ dimpled rotors and RedStuff pads for front and rear. Will update once installed, which is hopefully soon because I can not wait to get to the land of no brake dust!

If anyone else is looking, they have a nice little special for $90 off and free shipping on their site... Ended up $449 out the door.

edit: Does anyone have any input on doing stainless brake lines? Not going to track the car but wondering if I'll see any improvements around town or during spirited driving.

I got mine for very similar. Autozone and their 20% off with free shipping is awesome on the EBC line.

I did SS lines with my brakes. Well worth the $100 if you are in there anyway. (I'd do the fluid at the same time too)

[bokiboki]

Does anybody have these installed and what are the impressions?

http://vag.excelerateperformance.com/stoptech/stoptech-brake-pads-sport-series/30913220/i-380731.aspx

[JWreck]

This last page really steered me away from Akebono... Just ordered the EBC slotted/ dimpled rotors and RedStuff pads for front and rear. Will update once installed, which is hopefully soon because I can not wait to get to the land of no brake dust!

If anyone else is looking, they have a nice little special for $90 off and free shipping on their site... Ended up $449 out the door.

edit: Does anyone have any input on doing stainless brake lines? Not going to track the car but wondering if I'll see any improvements around town or during spirited driving.

Have you installed them yet? Any comments on the EBC setup?

[ReDeViL]

SS lines are definitely worth it for the slightly improved feel.
I was on ebc reds on my previous ride and swore off them after the amount of dust and so so performance.
On the hawk hps 5.0 now and couldn't be happier, great for daily driving due to the gradual bite, but still plenty of bite for emergency situations.

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[JWreck]

SS lines are definitely worth it for the slightly improved feel.
I was on ebc reds on my previous ride and swore off them after the amount of dust and so so performance.
On the hawk hps 5.0 now and couldn't be happier, great for daily driving due to the gradual bite, but still plenty of bite for emergency situations.

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Good to hear as I'm about to replace my Akebono pads up front with HPS 5.0


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[doppyflong]

Have you installed them yet? Any comments on the EBC setup?

Rotors are back ordered currently. Hoping I can have everything installed by mid June and will update.

[rudyr]

+1 on Carbotech being the best, but $$$. I used them (I think I got them free as sponsorship) on the Miata I raced in the One Lap back in 2004 and they were amazing.

Putting some EBC Reds + EBC rotors on tomorrow. A little concerned hearing the EBC complaints here, but I have the same setup on my wife's RDX and they seem fine.

[whiped]

I've had no problem with my EBC setup [up]

[EstorilS4]

I've always had good performance out of the EBC redstuff/USR slotted combo. They will dust heavily at 1st until the "brake-in" coating wears off the pads, but dust way less than stock after that. They also have ZERO noise whereas my stock pads squealed like a stuck pig (unacceptable in a car like this, IMO). The redstuff is NOT a race pad, nor is it a huge improvement over stock performance, if any. Less initial "bite/grabbiness" than stock, which is not a bad thing to me. Still maintain good pedal feel/control. Can't comment on fade as I don't track or canyon the car, but they are great for spirited street/daily driving.

[doppyflong]

Rotors/ Pads/ SS lines installed and about 100 miles in so far with another 100 to go before I can begin braking more aggressively. Completely agree with @EstorilS4 regarding bite and pedal feel. I can't tell any difference in pedal feel and I do like the more linear braking feel I've experienced so far. Pretty much the same driving style, so I won't be able elaborate further on fade in a track setting. However I will update after a few hundred miles with some more thoughts. In the mean time, driving like a saint around the city and blown away to see 20mpg [o_o]

Up next: get my rear bumper fixed (likely replaced) since someone backed into me while parked...

[jsh139]

Just bought front Akebono pads and Zimmerman rotors from FCPEuro. Excited to install these bad boys in a week or so.

[whiped]

Rotors/ Pads/ SS lines installed and about 100 miles in so far with another 100 to go before I can begin braking more aggressively. Completely agree with @EstorilS4 regarding bite and pedal feel. I can't tell any difference in pedal feel and I do like the more linear braking feel I've experienced so far. Pretty much the same driving style, so I won't be able elaborate further on fade in a track setting. However I will update after a few hundred miles with some more thoughts. In the mean time, driving like a saint around the city and blown away to see 20mpg [o_o]

Up next: get my rear bumper fixed (likely replaced) since someone backed into me while parked...

I just drove mine normal for a tank of gas then bed them in.

Normal for another tank of gas then bedded them again. All seems fine to me.

I had some asshat tag my back bumper while parked too. Has been on my "Fix me" list for like 10 months now...

[JWreck]

Replaced front Akebono pads and rear stock pads with Hawk HPS 5.0. Now all 4 corners are Hawk HPS 5.0 and ECS slotted rotors.

The difference is quite amazing. The stopping power is present all the time.

The Akebono pads would fade after one stop from highway speeds. The Hawks are strong all the time, almost better after a few hard stops.

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[dave1078]

Replaced front Akebono pads and rear stock pads with Hawk HPS 5.0. Now all 4 corners are Hawk HPS 5.0 and ECS slotted rotors.

The difference is quite amazing. The stopping power is present all the time.

The Akebono pads would fade after one stop from highway speeds. The Hawks are strong all the time, almost better after a few hard stops.

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I've always liked Hawk HPS/5.0 pads. I'm glad to hear they're working well on this platform too. Definitely worked better after bedding them though.

[mjwolff35]

Has anyone ever tried Hawk Performance Ceramic pads? I haven't seen it mentioned in this thread.
They look moderately priced over on Europaparts.

[justincrediblee]

Just ordered Akebono pads from ECS, and have some quick questions:

- Just want to make sure my shipment was correct - certain it is but don't wanna show up at the shop to find out it's not. The front pads come with the wear sensor and pads, rear just the pads?
- Any recommendations for brake lube?

[Johnnycash]

Just ordered Akebono pads from ECS, and have some quick questions:

- Just want to make sure my shipment was correct - certain it is but don't wanna show up at the shop to find out it's not. The front pads come with the wear sensor and pads, rear just the pads?
- Any recommendations for brake lube?

yes. anti-seize for lube.

[Tashfeen]

Just wanted to ask if it was OK to change the brake fluid first before changing the whole setup. I have a B8.5 with 21k on the clock and OEM pads still have 40% live left (I know I drive like Ms. Daisy). I am planning on changing the rotors but at least not for next two months and my brake fluid is due for a change. Would appreciate your help. Thanks.


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[jsh139]

Just wanted to ask if it was OK to change the brake fluid first before changing the whole setup. I have a B8.5 with 21k on the clock and OEM pads still have 40% live left (I know I drive like Ms. Daisy). I am planning on changing the rotors but at least not for next two months and my brake fluid is due for a change. Would appreciate your help. Thanks.


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I don't see why not as long as it is changed and the system is bled properly? I had my brake fluid changed about a month ago and I'll be installing new pads and rotors in a few weeks.

[Tashfeen]

I don't see why not as long as it is changed and the system is bled properly? I had my brake fluid changed about a month ago and I'll be installing new pads and rotors in a few weeks.

Thanks man. I know it is not a lot of money but if the system is to be bled again with the change in setup then I'll be inclined to do it all in one go. I don't like doing things in bits [emoji12]


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[doppyflong]

Wanted to update this with something that I missed during my research, even though it is mentioned on EBC's website.

In regards to the EBC slotted/ dimpled rotors, these have a very audible "wind" noise that has gotten louder over the past 500 miles or so. It's by no means unbearable and usually occurs at 30 mph+, however, it is definitely present and can be heard even with the windows up. It's especially noticeable when you're driving next to a barrier or another vehicle, as it reverberates off whatever object you're near. It sounds a little like the window is cracked a tiny bit. I've been very happy with the performance of the EBC setup, but had I known about this noise, I would have definitely considered a smooth rotor (and probably still gone with slotted because they do look pretty cool).

Just a heads up in case this is a deal breaker for anyone! [up]


Rotors/ Pads/ SS lines installed and about 100 miles in so far with another 100 to go before I can begin braking more aggressively. Completely agree with @EstorilS4 regarding bite and pedal feel. I can't tell any difference in pedal feel and I do like the more linear braking feel I've experienced so far. Pretty much the same driving style, so I won't be able elaborate further on fade in a track setting. However I will update after a few hundred miles with some more thoughts. In the mean time, driving like a saint around the city and blown away to see 20mpg [o_o]

Up next: get my rear bumper fixed (likely replaced) since someone backed into me while parked...

[whiped]

Wanted to update this with something that I missed during my research, even though it is mentioned on EBC's website.

In regards to the EBC slotted/ dimpled rotors, these have a very audible "wind" noise that has gotten louder over the past 500 miles or so. It's by no means unbearable and usually occurs at 30 mph+, however, it is definitely present and can be heard even with the windows up. It's especially noticeable when you're driving next to a barrier or another vehicle, as it reverberates off whatever object you're near. It sounds a little like the window is cracked a tiny bit. I've been very happy with the performance of the EBC setup, but had I known about this noise, I would have definitely considered a smooth rotor (and probably still gone with slotted because they do look pretty cool).

Just a heads up in case this is a deal breaker for anyone! [up]

It gets slightly better the more and more you break them in but yes.

I'd take this clicking over the squealing of the OEM setup any day.