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German Driver
11-08-2005, 08:21 PM
General Information Q&A

Q: What is the RNS-E?
A: The RNS-E is an Audi DVD based navigation system. The unit utilizes two SD card slots for MP3 playback.

Q: How do I know if this navigation will fit my car?
A: If you currently have a Symphony II head unit you will have no problem fitting the RNS-E into the console. If you have the Concert II head unit or any of the older single DIN OEM head units this operation will not be a plug and play install.

Q: What model RNS-E should I get?
A: 8P0 035 192 Audi A3 Europe: 8P
8P0 035 192 A Audi A3 Europe (MY 2006, without SDS) 8P
8P0 035 192 C Audi A3 North America (Basic, MY 2006) 8P *
8P0 035 192 F Audi A3 Europe (MY 2006, with SDS) 8P
8E0 035 192 C Audi A4 Europe (B6/B7) Most common
8E0 035 192 D Audi A4 Europe (B7, MY 2006, without SDS)
8E0 035 192 E Audi A4 North America (B7, MY 2005.5)
8E0 035 192 F Audi A4 North America (B7, MY 2006, with SDS?) *
8E0 035 192 J Audi A4 North America (B7, MY 2006, with SDS?) *
8E0 035 192 H Audi A4 Europe (B7, MY 2006, with SDS)
4B0 035 192 P Audi A6 Europe, C5 and Allroad (A4 B5 with faceplate mod)
4B0 035 192 R Audi A6 North America, C5 and Allroad (A4 B5 with faceplate mod)
*Unconfirmed, part number and description may not be correct.

Q: Does the RNS-E play CDs?
A: Yes the navigation DVD drive will play regular or burned CDs however only when the DVD map is removed from the drive.

Q: What are SD card slots used for?
A: A Secure Digital card, or SD as they call it, is a removable media storage card which allows the user to save MP3 files and play them back through their RNS-E unit. SD cards can be purchased in a range of storage capacity from as little as 16mb to 8gb (8 thousand megabytes). Price obviously coincides with storage size.

Q: Where can I get the DVD map by NavTeq?
A: The best place to source this map disk is on eBay.com or from NavTeq directly.

Q: Can I use satellite radio with the RNS-E?
A: Yes, although all RNS-E units are satellite radio ready, to allow for it to work on the Euro RNS-E you will need to flash the unit to US spec. Reason for this is that in Europe they do not offer satellite radio services so only US RNS-E units were able to link to receivers. You will need to have the most updated receivers as well model numbers are Sirius 8E0 057 593D, XM Part No. 8E0 057 593E

Q: Does the RNS-E provide the option of a telephone?
A: To operate and integrate a telephone you will need to acquire proper Audi Motorola phone and module. Parts are available at your Audi parts dept. See below for proper part number. Phone directory is displayed directly on your RNS-E screen and allows for names, numbers, and addresses to be stored for instant connection.

Q: Can my RNS-E utilize Bluetooth technology?
A: Yes, to get a wireless Bluetooth connection between your RNS-E and your Bluetooth hardware you will need to purchase the Bluetooth plug and play wiring harness, receiver module, and microphone for phone usage.

Audio/Video Quick Guide

Q: Since my RNS-E uses DVD based map discs, does it play DVD movies?
A: Unfortunately not, although the drive allows for DVD maps the unit will only read the dual layer map discs put out by NavTeq.

Q: How do I play a CD while the navigation is active?
A: The only way to operate a CD for playback is to use an external CD player. Audi has an OEM glove box unit which holds 6 discs at a time and connects directly to the Navigation. Both the US and European model are confirmed working with the RNS-E. The model numbers are 8E0 035 111 A and 8E0 035 111 D.

Q: Does the RNS-E allow for movies or video games to be viewed?
A: Like any monitor you can hook up an external audio/video source to the navigation system. Acting as an output source, the RNS-E will display movies or video games directly on the screen.

Q: What do I need to allow for video to be displayed?
A: An external video source such as a DVD player or video game console will be needed. Many owners prefer the Blaupunkt ME3 DVD/MP3/TV Tuner/CD player unit. This unit fits directly into your OEM glove box. Check eBay.com for prices and where to purchase. You will also need a Dietz 1470 multimedia interface. This is the link between the Navigation and the external video source.

Q: Can I watch video while driving?
A: Yes, however you will need the module which allows for video in motion. The part required is the Dietz 1280 video in motion module.

Q: Does the RNS-E allow for me to hook up an audio system?
A: Yes you go about adding speakers, subs, and amps just the same as you would with the Symphony II head unit.

Operating Your Navigation

Q: Can I input address while car is in motion?
A: Yes, unlike BMW and other European navigation systems the RNS-E allows for destination input at any point.

Q: Can I plot a stop over while in route to my end destination?
A: Yes the RNS-E allows for stop over stations during route. You can find location on map or input destination by state>town>street.

Q: By having the RNS-E can I now view navigation instructions on the DIS (driver information system) which is located on the dashboard?
A: Yes, unlike the predecessor RNS-D CD based navigation which required the TMC module, the new RNS-E navigation allows for the DIS to show all necessary information such as; street names, directional arrows, ETA, distance to turn with countdown, and miles on current route guidance. The DIS also provides the track info, artist name and song title, and all service information which was previously available with the toggle switch.

Q: Does the navigation system show destinations such as shopping malls, gas stations, police dept. etcetera?
A: Yes the driver has the option to display any or all of the dozens of categories.

To be continued... [az]

Please feel free to add any input and or suggestions to this post.

Stevelev
11-24-2005, 10:26 AM
With respect to RNS-E model # 8E0 035 192 D, what issues will occurr in trying to get this to run in a North American B6 (versus the 8E0 035 192 C) ??

German Driver
11-27-2005, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by Stevelev
With respect to RNS-E model # 8E0 035 192 D, what issues will occurr in trying to get this to run in a North American B6 (versus the 8E0 035 192 C) ??

I have upgraded my s/w to 0360 and do have a firmware upgrade for the unit that will allow you to operate a patched DVD on the D unit just as though it was a C unit with 0100 s/w. Prior to this advancement there was no way to operare US map DVD discs on this unit. If you do not use this update s/w you will not be able to operate the D unit with the normal patched DVD. It will however work just fine with the European disc. You will also see changes to the GUI on the screen and button functions. Great updates which I look forward to seeing on the US units.

Please understand that this not a US flash firmware upgrade but rather a s/w update to USA 2a.

Feeesh
12-01-2005, 10:33 AM
Does the DVD map disc cover the entire united states? Or are there multiple discs for multiple parts of the country?

German Driver
12-01-2005, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by Feeesh
Does the DVD map disc cover the entire united states? Or are there multiple discs for multiple parts of the country?

The DVD map disc covers all 50 states plus Canada. If you think just roads are packed on there remember it has restaurants, ATM machines, parks, airports, hotels... et cetera. The disc is very impressive.

04s4
12-01-2005, 05:40 PM
you got a pm

yaks
12-07-2005, 02:06 PM
Is there an easy way to disable the default warning message or will one have to do it via other methods (the name escapes me now, but the method that allows you to change factory settings via a laptop).

Thanks in advance!

German Driver
12-07-2005, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by yaks
Is there an easy way to disable the default warning message or will one have to do it via other methods (the name escapes me now, but the method that allows you to change factory settings via a laptop).

Thanks in advance!

As of now there is no known way to remove the legal warning. There is hopes that we can change an index value on the firmware files that will allow us to remove that feature. Unfortunately we have not yet gotten to this point.

yaks
12-07-2005, 03:54 PM
Thanks for the prompt reply. Too bad as it's an annoyance... but I can live with it.

German Driver
12-07-2005, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by yaks
Thanks for the prompt reply. Too bad as it's an annoyance... but I can live with it.

Not a problem. Feel free to stop by any time! And tell your friends [:p]

Stoodo
12-08-2005, 09:35 PM
" Q: Can I watch video while driving?
A: Yes, however you will need the module which allows for video in motion. The part required is the Dietz 1280 video in motion module."

If you run a GALA line from the Cluster to the RNS-E, and code it for an A6 unit, you can just put a switch on the GALA line to have video in motion.

Switching to the A6 coding has the RNS-E read the speed over GALA instead of over the CAN bus.

In other words, no need for the Dietz 1280.

(This was confirmed for the B6 S4/A4)

German Driver
12-09-2005, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by Stoodo
" Q: Can I watch video while driving?
A: Yes, however you will need the module which allows for video in motion. The part required is the Dietz 1280 video in motion module."

If you run a GALA line from the Cluster to the RNS-E, and code it for an A6 unit, you can just put a switch on the GALA line to have video in motion.

Switching to the A6 coding has the RNS-E read the speed over GALA instead of over the CAN bus.

In other words, no need for the Dietz 1280.

(This was confirmed for the B6 S4/A4)

This is true, and was also the case for the RNS-D. I will add this to the info guide but majority of novice owners might wish to do the more plug and play operation.

I know you mentioned behind cluster but here is a shot of the ABS GALA line (vehicle speed sensor) for those interested. It is located on the B6 A4 behind the drivers left foot kick panel in a block of connectors.

http://images8.fotki.com/v120/photos/3/312468/1364343/DSC01571-vi.jpg

Notice the dead pedal and block and color of the connector. My apologies for the close up shot however I was trying to get the pin location for another user.

04s4
12-27-2005, 06:54 AM
So on a 2004 S4 would it be in the same place. Also wondering how do I run the Gala wire to the system, meaning which pin do I splice the wire into. It seems that "Stoodo" has a different method of running the Gala wire to the system. Then "German Driver", just wondering if it works the same way. And for the coding to the A6, is that nessacary if i run it too the ABS Gala Line?

Stoodo
Why did you put the switch on the wire?
Thanks

blacka4
12-28-2005, 07:31 AM
Is it possable to install the RNS-E into a older A4 like a 99.5 prior to the CAN-BUS and still have it work correctly? I don't care about the diver information display I just want the nav, radio, my ipod and sat radio to work

German Driver
12-29-2005, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by blacka4
Is it possable to install the RNS-E into a older A4 like a 99.5 prior to the CAN-BUS and still have it work correctly? I don't care about the diver information display I just want the nav, radio, my ipod and sat radio to work

Sure is. It has been done many times. You would use the RNS-E fitted for an A6 and either trimming on the base of Nav or top of climate control would be needed to allow for proper fitment. I have couple A6 units available to those up fo the challenge. David Sarabi installed it in his B5 S4 more recently and has full ipod control as well. You would need to pick up CAN-Bus module which are easy to obtain. I can get all necessary parts.

German Driver
12-29-2005, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by 04s4
So on a 2004 S4 would it be in the same place. Also wondering how do I run the Gala wire to the system, meaning which pin do I splice the wire into. It seems that "Stoodo" has a different method of running the Gala wire to the system. Then "German Driver", just wondering if it works the same way. And for the coding to the A6, is that nessacary if i run it too the ABS Gala Line?

Stoodo
Why did you put the switch on the wire?
Thanks

Please do not get confused here. There is no tapping into GALA or ABS line with B6 platform cars. The RNS-E is direct plug and play. You pull the stock headunit out, plug in adapter harness place GPS antenna where you please and then plug adapter back into RNS-E and you are finished. 30 minutes install tops.

blacka4
12-29-2005, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by German Driver
Sure is. It has been done many times. You would use the RNS-E fitted for an A6 and either trimming on the base of Nav or top of climate control would be needed to allow for proper fitment. I have couple A6 units available to those up fo the challenge. David Sarabi installed it in his B5 S4 more recently and has full ipod control as well. You would need to pick up CAN-Bus module which are easy to obtain. I can get all necessary parts.

really? I know for a fact my car doesn't have CAN-bus.. why would I need the CAN-bus module. thanks

German Driver
12-31-2005, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by blacka4
really? I know for a fact my car doesn't have CAN-bus.. why would I need the CAN-bus module. thanks

Unlike the RNS-D (CD based) where you have to tap into 12V line, GALA ABS speed sensor, and various other wires, the RNS-E sends all information through the CAN-BUS system. This is the reason the Navigation is plug and play! [up]

blacka4
12-31-2005, 01:57 PM
umm ok looks like I will stick with my RNS-D and just wait to upgrade to the RNS-E when I get a new car so it is factory installed

wootang00
01-15-2006, 01:02 AM
i have a single din audi concert. how hard would it be to add the audi navi+ onto it. as i have been reading its not direct plug and play b/c i dont have the double din.. but wondering how much more work it would be to get it to work. thanks for the replies.

OverSpun
01-16-2006, 07:33 PM
Scott, can you PM me your AIM or MSN messenger handle? i have some questions for you, my buddy wants to buy an rns-e from you.

nick

German Driver
01-16-2006, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by wootang00
i have a single din audi concert. how hard would it be to add the audi navi+ onto it. as i have been reading its not direct plug and play b/c i dont have the double din.. but wondering how much more work it would be to get it to work. thanks for the replies.

Well install difficulty wouldn't be bad at all but you would need to acquire the lower climate control (which I have immediate access to) and then you will be set. Let me know if you are interested I can get you all set up. scott@rivalmotorsport.com

German Driver
01-16-2006, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by OverSpun
Scott, can you PM me your AIM or MSN messenger handle? i have some questions for you, my buddy wants to buy an rns-e from you.

nick

Sure thing, YGPM man!

029kid
11-13-2006, 06:40 AM
Very good information post, I love it.
I have just got my NAVI for my A3, and wants to install a DVD/TV tuner.

I see that you mention the Blaupunkt ME3, but I can not find it anywhere.
Not on eBay, and not where I live.

Can anyone recommend another good dvd/tv tuner for my system ?

Thanks!

German Driver
11-27-2006, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by 029kid
Very good information post, I love it.
I have just got my NAVI for my A3, and wants to install a DVD/TV tuner.

I see that you mention the Blaupunkt ME3, but I can not find it anywhere.
Not on eBay, and not where I live.

Can anyone recommend another good dvd/tv tuner for my system ?

Thanks!

Sure do. Check out your PM box. I have lots of info and images for you.

abdrury
12-20-2006, 09:24 AM
I apologize if this is a silly question but I couldn't find an answer:

While using the Nav function(s) are you able to listen to SAT or FM/AM or MP3s from SD cards? I know that the CD function is unavailable because the integrated DVD ROM is occupied by the Nav DVD. . . .

Thanks![:D]

AudiA4b6US
12-28-2006, 08:55 PM
Yes, using navigation lets you still listen to whatever is selected as audio source (radio, sat, CD in a glovebox changer, MP3 on SD, TV)

KPC1.8TQuat
01-17-2007, 08:48 PM
So, if I but a Euro spec RNS-E, what exactly do I need to make it work over here? The one I am looking at comes with the nav unit, gps antenna, and code card. If I have the symphony II system, do I need a unique wiring harness?

Thanks very much.

PetrolDave
01-18-2007, 12:32 PM
You need a Symphony II to RNS-E adapter (you must specify if you have Bose, CD changer, phone kit), and an antenna adapter.

A Euro unit won't accept a US map DVD. You need to make a "special" CD-R which converts the unit to accepting a US map DVD. All the info on this is on http://www.navplus.us

skiwi
01-22-2007, 02:09 PM
i'm looking at retro-fitting the rns-e unit to my rs6 w/symphony ii unit.

i've got an odd question to ask.

i'm contemplating the upgrade simply to get better integration with my cell-phone by way of the blue-tooth oem kit. down-under the rns-e wil not work as a nav unit as there are no maps available. this might change over the next 12 months, but who knows?

so the question. for those who use the rns-e, is it a worthwhile upgrade for a person who cannot use nav? i.e is the bluetooth/radio/sd/ipod & car interface a good step-up from the symphony ii/dis interface?

German Driver
01-23-2007, 01:06 AM
i'm looking at retro-fitting the rns-e unit to my rs6 w/symphony ii unit.

i've got an odd question to ask.

i'm contemplating the upgrade simply to get better integration with my cell-phone by way of the blue-tooth oem kit. down-under the rns-e wil not work as a nav unit as there are no maps available. this might change over the next 12 months, but who knows?

so the question. for those who use the rns-e, is it a worthwhile upgrade for a person who cannot use nav? i.e is the bluetooth/radio/sd/ipod & car interface a good step-up from the symphony ii/dis interface?

Yowsa, hard call. I'd say it's about 50/50. Having that SD cards is great fun and ability to hook up video to the monitor. Those two options alone are selling points for many. I would say give it a shot. The units are holding amazing resale value and I'd almost be willing to buy it back from you assuming condition was that as I shipped it. I really think the unit sells it self. Give me a ring and we can discuss some options. 315.299.7126

OneFastBMW
02-18-2007, 05:20 PM
As of now there is no known way to remove the legal warning. There is hopes that we can change an index value on the firmware files that will allow us to remove that feature. Unfortunately we have not yet gotten to this point.

Is there a way to disable this warning yet, what do i need to do to get it to go away

AudiA4b6US
02-18-2007, 09:13 PM
Just get the new 2007 DVD or update to sw 0150 and the disclaimer is history.

German Driver
02-19-2007, 10:31 AM
Just get the new 2007 DVD or update to sw 0150 and the disclaimer is history.

Correcto. We also got some new features such as virtual 3D display on on/off ramps, mute button, and preset icon changed.

parealtor
02-24-2007, 11:29 AM
the dvd in my 06 s4 avant was defective when I purchased the car a few weeks ago. The dealer is getting me a new one but seems to be dragging their feet. Is there a way to download the info somewhere and burn my own? How much is a 2007 nav dvd ?

PROXUS
02-24-2007, 11:42 AM
$199 + shipping directly from NAVTEQ store

candamian
02-25-2007, 01:35 PM
Hi, I can't find anyone else who has done what I am considering doing, which is to install a RSN-E Nav Plus unit from a 2006 a4 into a 2002 a4 (now there is a non Bose symphony II ) by trying to cut the harness wires from the 2006 and then matching them up with the wiring in 2002 a4 (which would also have to be cut or removed from the harness plugs). The reason why I am looking at this option is because I have access to a salvaged 2006 a4 with a navigation system. I was wondering therfore if there are easy to follow colorcoded diagrams of the wires in the harnesses in order to match them up between the 02 and 06 a4. I know it's crazy but I figured why not try to see if this can be done. Any help will be greately appreciated!

candamian
02-25-2007, 01:37 PM
Hi, I can't find anyone else who has done what I am considering doing, which is to install a RNS-E Nav Plus unit from a 2006 a4 into a 2002 a4 (now there is a non Bose symphony II ) by trying to cut the harness wires from the 2006 and then matching them up with the wiring in 2002 a4 (which would also have to be cut or removed from the harness plugs). The reason why I am looking at this option is because I have access to a salvaged 2006 a4 with a navigation system. I was wondering therfore if there are easy to follow colorcoded diagrams of the wires in the harnesses in order to match them up between the 02 and 06 a4. I know it's crazy but I figured why not try to see if this can be done. Any help will be greately appreciated!

AudiA4b6US
02-25-2007, 02:09 PM
Unless you have access to the pins, plugs and tools to build the matching side for your Symphony II connector, it's just causing more trouble at the end. If you can cut the B7 connector, contact someone who has built a couple custom adapters to concert the cut end to a workign plug and play adapter. Or just get a new plug and play adapter. You will need to get the antenna adapter anyway.

candamian
02-26-2007, 10:44 PM
I have just ordered the antenna, as it would be a huge pain to try to pull it out, and I will probably just end up getting the harness adapter as well. thanx for the response though

Four Play
08-18-2007, 04:58 PM
This may be a silly question, but the FAQ mentioned you cant play CDs while navigation is active w/o a CD changer, so can you play the radio while the navigation in active?

[:o]

AudiA4b6US
08-18-2007, 05:08 PM
This may be a silly question, but the FAQ mentioned you cant play CDs while navigation is active w/o a CD changer, so can you play the radio while the navigation in active?

[:o]
Yes, radio and SD cards play just fine.

Four Play
08-19-2007, 12:22 PM
Yes, radio and SD cards play just fine.

Thanks [up]

I'll be picking one of these up soon [:D]

dandmx04
11-03-2007, 09:50 AM
Can u explain how can i make several subfolders on my MP3 cards and the unit still recognize them and let me choose between them ?

AudiA4b6US
11-03-2007, 10:35 AM
Just create the folders. When you insert the card, the RNS-E will start playing form the lowest subfolder inside the first folder. User the RETURN button to go one folder level up, or press RETURN several times to go to the root of the card.

dandmx04
11-03-2007, 11:29 AM
tks..it worked [up]

dekidex
11-03-2007, 08:19 PM
Hello
Question from a new 2001 S8 owner with symphony II.

So can i just buy a RNS-e from ebay from a european seller,then simply have it instaled at a local sound shop?Is it plug and play?And in order for the Nav system to work i only need to get the NA DVD ROM for the Nav???

Thank You for any help!
Dean

Audi 2007
11-04-2007, 01:13 PM
I am the new guy here and want to say hi to everybody!!! Please help me with the advice. I have bought the Audi A6 3.2 2007 model in the USA and brought it to Canada. I have CD changer in my glove department and how can I find if my navigation can work. Looks like it is CD based navigation and when I press NAV OR INFO button on my MMI the massage is navigation CD is not installed. Can I just buy the CD or I need to do something different?
Thank you!!!

feza4
11-21-2007, 06:57 AM
Ok guys, looking to invest in one of these but have some ?'s about specifics of the system and its "user friendliness".

Currently in a 2007 A4 2.0tq. Enjoying the Symphony II unit (which includes the 6-cd changer), as well as the stock Audi BT integration. Was contemplating getting the RNS-E but needed to know.
a) Will my stock bluetooth integration swap over to the Nav unit or will I have to buy the bluetooth add-on for this specific unit?
b) Does this unit allow for a 6-cd changer to be added on, (whether in the trunk or glovebox)?
c) What is the ipod story? Expensive... easier interaction over the symphony unit. Pictures speak louder than words for me on this one if anyone would like to help me out.
Just wondering on all this b/c the avic units were on my list of possibilities alongside the RNS. That stock look is just soo much sexier though.

-Thanks in advance to anyone who can clarify any of this for me, much appreciated.

AudiA4b6US
11-21-2007, 07:19 AM
Bluetooth will continue to work, even better with the proper coding. You can add a glovebox changer but most people just use SD cards instead (much cheaper option and much better integrated since you can see artist/title/album on SD cards). It's iPod or CD changer anyway, not both at the same time, and all iPod integrations suck big time right now. iPod control looks and feels like CD control with your Symphony, no names/titles/etc, get the picture.

feza4
11-21-2007, 08:48 AM
Proper coding... so if I were to buy it now would I be able to hook up my phone right from the get go? As far as the ipod thing goes, I know the Symphony system has absolute crap when it comes to ipod integration. Im wondering if the RNS unit is any different/easier/ more user friendly with aftermarket integration. As I said before, pictures/ user testament would help a lot. Thanks, I know I'm picky about my questions, just want to make sure my money is going to good use.

wayneair
02-24-2008, 07:27 PM
hi, i'm brand frickkin' new to the world of Audi, as of 3 days ago. i just got an 06 A4 with bose symphony (which i suspect is symphony 2) w/ xm. so let me get this straight, i can get a RNS-e, unplug my symphony, plug in the RNS and be good to go?

downhillracer
09-26-2008, 12:23 AM
Would i still be able to use my dice ipod integration? Thanks (btw i have a 03 a4 with bose)

fritzner
09-26-2008, 03:46 PM
hey Dirk, Dave, Proxus, and German Driver!

i havent really seen you over here much.. or maybe were just hanging out in different areas..

i've said it over on navplus.us, but i will say it here.. if it werent for you we wouldnt be near where we are with the RNS-E.. thanks for all your help!!..

4RingRook
11-23-2008, 08:31 PM
I'm going to bump this thread as I'm strongly considering adding the RNS E, but I have some questions.

I currently have the Symphony II w/o Bose. I also have, and would like to keep, Sirius. If I buy the RNS, can I reuse the same module? (I see the Sirius listed above for the RNS, but I'm not sure if they're compatible) - Would I need to call Sirius to update the device ID?

The model number Ive been looking at in the classifieds is 8E0 035 192 C (most common above).

Also, how difficult is the install? If you do not have the multicolor DIS, will the nav directions still display?

Thanks, and my apologies if these questions have been asked before. [az]

bl0wn3ur0
12-16-2008, 07:13 PM
hey im interested in picking up a rns-e but ive read that some people were having problems getting their rds(radio info on dis) to work, is that a normal problem or did these people do something wrong?

I only ask because i can get a pioneer hu for a good price but dont want to lose my dis funtion.

scoobycarolan
03-11-2009, 10:26 AM
I have been considering a major internal upgrade on my B7. I currently have the stock radio & Sirius. If I want RNS-E, iPod, & Bluetooth should I do them all at once?

Will I still need the GPS antenna if I have satellite?

Will I need to Vag-Com anything to get it all up and running?

MCT9891
08-01-2009, 06:44 PM
Whats up buddy, Difference between EU and USA? Anything major?

clumpymold
08-15-2009, 11:13 PM
Wow, GREAT thread! I finally have ALL my questions regarding RNS-E answered. FINALLY! Thank you!!! [:)]

DG_ie
09-25-2009, 04:43 AM
Newbie here....

Symphony II (BOSE fully Amplified) to RNS-E (8PO 035 192 S)?

Plug and play install, except for GPS antenae behind the instrument panel.

I know this have probably been asked and answered many times. Great forum by the way.

Thanks!

koolade9
09-25-2009, 11:18 AM
Newbie here....

Symphony II (BOSE fully Amplified) to RNS-E (8PO 035 192 S)?

Plug and play install, except for GPS antenae behind the instrument panel.

I know this have probably been asked and answered many times. Great forum by the way.

Thanks!

what specifically would you like to know?

you can buy everything you need right here: navparts.com

DG_ie
09-26-2009, 10:18 AM
I want to upgrade from Symphony II Bose to RNS-E. I want to include the Bluetooth module. I know what I need, I just need to get it!.

Anyone have experience with the blue tooth functionality for iPhone 3G?

Would you people recommend the upgrade?

arun
04-20-2010, 08:52 AM
no posts on here lately...anyone know where to buy an rns-e from a reputable seller who is not out of stock? i have a b6 a4 with bose...any help in the right direction would be great, navparts.com seems to be out of stock, and i am a bit wary of the e-bay sellers from Poland. anyone else buy from these guys with good results?

Sharkfin
04-20-2010, 08:55 AM
several pop up every week in the classifieds, get one of those

BASARAB
04-20-2010, 09:11 AM
There are also some units on Ebay from NA sellers

arun
04-20-2010, 12:22 PM
several pop up every week in the classifieds, get one of those

i have been checking the classifieds, but i want something that is either new or in near perfect condition and has all the harnesses / discs / codes i will need...i was more looking for a known seller who has inventory and decent prices - do you know of any?

arun
04-20-2010, 12:24 PM
There are also some units on Ebay from NA sellers

do you know of any legit NA sellers who are not private parties? a good recommendation would really put my fears of ebaying at ease...thanks

BASARAB
04-20-2010, 04:03 PM
do you know of any legit NA sellers who are not private parties? a good recommendation would really put my fears of ebaying at ease...thanks

Dont know, but Kuko from Poland is legit, have not heard complains about him

Sharkfin
04-20-2010, 06:13 PM
There are no regular NA sellers for a decent price, and I have heard bad things of Kuko and he's not allowed to post on here about them anymore either.

badger1
04-20-2010, 06:16 PM
General Information Q&A
Q: What model RNS-E should I get?
A: 8P0 035 192 Audi A3 Europe: 8P
8P0 035 192 A Audi A3 Europe (MY 2006, without SDS) 8P
8P0 035 192 C Audi A3 North America (Basic, MY 2006) 8P *
8P0 035 192 F Audi A3 Europe (MY 2006, with SDS) 8P
8E0 035 192 C Audi A4 Europe (B6/B7) Most common
8E0 035 192 D Audi A4 Europe (B7, MY 2006, without SDS)
8E0 035 192 E Audi A4 North America (B7, MY 2005.5)
8E0 035 192 F Audi A4 North America (B7, MY 2006, with SDS?) *
8E0 035 192 J Audi A4 North America (B7, MY 2006, with SDS?) *
8E0 035 192 H Audi A4 Europe (B7, MY 2006, with SDS)
4B0 035 192 P Audi A6 Europe, C5 and Allroad (A4 B5 with faceplate mod)
4B0 035 192 R Audi A6 North America, C5 and Allroad (A4 B5 with faceplate mod)


Can someone clarify this? Is there a specific model I should look for (2004 S4) or will any work as long as it's North American? Thanks!

Sharkfin
04-20-2010, 06:17 PM
C-H, but for C/D you have to recode the unit to NA specs

Naudi04
04-27-2010, 07:05 PM
Anyone know if this will work in a 2004 S4 non-bose with factory Nav & Sat? I contacted the seller but he doesn't know exactly if it will work for my needs.

Seller says he believes it will work with A4/S4 and includes:
Navigation unit RNS-E
GPS antenna (which I don't need I already have sharkfin)
Original DVD map (2009)
Removal tools
Security code card
SD card (1Gb)
Plug and play adapter
User Manual

Productions date: 2009/04/22
Audi Partnumber: 8E0 035 192 T
Hardware status: H76
Software status: 0650

8E0 035 192 T Audi A4 Europe, MY 2008, 8E B7, sw 0650

Looks to be a Euro model from 2008-09 models. What needs to be done to these to run in America with Nav/Sat? is the 0650 supported?

Thanks!

PNW Avant
04-27-2010, 08:43 PM
Revision T is a European unit from 2008.

The software status is also European. This means the DVD is also euro.

It could also be a burned DVD with US maps patched to work with a European unit.

If you don't use the provided antenna, you'll need to buy a shark fin extension cable, and run it from the RNS-e through the headliner all the way to the back of your car where the antenna is located. The connections up front do not come stock.

Harnesses sold on the internet are hit and miss at best for Symphony II integration. Many people are fabricating these incorrectly.

Your SAT module will likely not work with the RNS-e, depending on the model number of the module. There are two revisions each for Sirius/XM modules. 1 for RNS-e, 1 not for RNS-e.

Hope this helps.

Naudi04
04-28-2010, 01:56 PM
Revision T is a European unit from 2008.

The software status is also European. This means the DVD is also euro.

It could also be a burned DVD with US maps patched to work with a European unit.

If you don't use the provided antenna, you'll need to buy a shark fin extension cable, and run it from the RNS-e through the headliner all the way to the back of your car where the antenna is located. The connections up front do not come stock.

Harnesses sold on the internet are hit and miss at best for Symphony II integration. Many people are fabricating these incorrectly.

Your SAT module will likely not work with the RNS-e, depending on the model number of the module. There are two revisions each for Sirius/XM modules. 1 for RNS-e, 1 not for RNS-e.

Hope this helps.

Thx PNW Avant.

My car DID come factory with Sharkfin/Nav in instrument cluster. I'm still at a loss on how or if the in cluster will work after in Install RNS-E, or how to get the wires from my Sharkfin into the RNS-E. Is there a cable behind the stock Symphony II I can use (the factory nav cable)?

So after reading all over the place I guess my only concern is being able to reprogram this Euro model to US. Make sure the plug-n-play adaptor wiring harness works, and then get a 2010 DVD maps disc and do another update so I'm current.

I understand that my Sat won't work unless I upgrade my sat box model. I'm just going to pass on that entirely, as I don't use Sat - did in the past, but don't care for it anymore.

A few of the threads I read were related to converting a EU model to US. They really didn't go into much detail in terms of how to start/finish, but vag-com and some software. All these threads are really old, and I don't know if the " T " model even allows for a EU to US change.

http://audiforum.us/maps-firmware/3742-upgrading-software-using-new-map-dependent-5.html

http://www.audiforum.us/rns-e/777-another-successful-conversion-eu-us-firmware-b6-a4.html

http://www.audiforum.us/rns-e/501-euro-rns-e-north-america-current-issues.html

http://www.audiforum.us/rns-e/1480-a6-rns-e-eu-us-upgrade-question.html

Any other ideas??

PNW Avant
04-28-2010, 02:45 PM
You will be able to flash any RNS-e, regardless of the revision, to be a US model.

You can use the VAG COM to program your RNS-e to display directions in the instrument cluster, in addition to the RNS-e screen.

All the S4s came with the sharkfin antenna. My car didn't have NAV or SAT radio, but all the connections are still there in the cargo area. I actually just added a SAT radio module, it was totally plug and pay. Sounds like you had the stock, b6 nav system with controls on the console.

I believe your old nav module is the back, behind the trunk panel. That's where the sat/GPS connections would be for that module. You won't have any GPS antenna connections up front, but I'd suggest just using the antenna that people are including with these retrofit kits. I had an RNSe for a while, and I just mounted the antenna behind the dash, specifically on top of my glove box. I got great SAT reception. If you are REALLY anal about the install, you'll get the extension cable though.

There's a DIY, albeit a little vague, for euro to US conversion on this telematics forum, including the files to use. Try that out.

Naudi04
04-28-2010, 04:45 PM
Good information PWN, appreciate it!

I did find a local mechanic who has a VAG COM and who can assist me if needed. Although he has never done anything with the RNS-E system I'm confident I'll figure it out from the information online.

I would really like to utilize the sharkfin so maybe I'll have to do the extension cable. I wasn't aware all S4's came with the Sharkfin though, learn something new everyday :)

Sure would be nice to have a functional nav on my inst. cluster and on the RNS-E, curious if any updates are made in the inst. Cluster with those new map discs. The graphics in the inst. cluster are pretty horrific, but still work I guess as intended.

PNW Avant
04-28-2010, 06:43 PM
You just get directions in the display, I believe, just like you had before. It's a pretty easy modification:

Select Control Module > 17- Instruments > Adaptation 10.

Channel Section, type 62, hit read. Add 4 to this value, hit test, then save.

Should work within a day, coding can be finicky.

Also, when you get and install your RNS-e unit, you'll want to re-code the unit to correspond to the specific options in your car (cd changer, bose, sat, etc.) This is done via RNS-e and VAG COM and info can be found here.

http://audiforum.us/rns-e/11750-sorting-out-rns-e-after-installation.html

czsrock1990
04-28-2010, 09:16 PM
ok so basically im not really familiar with car talk, i have an rns-e that does not have bluetooth or movie capability, but i want i to have them so what do i need to have it be able to

1)play movies (while in motion)
2)have bluetooth capabilities

PNW Avant
04-28-2010, 10:48 PM
Dude your question has been answered several times.

For bluetooth you need:

1 Bluetooth module.
2 Bluetooth antenna
3 Bluetooth mic (unless you have Onstar)
4 Custom harness (unless you have Onstar)

For DVD player you need:

1. External DVD player
2. Custom harness
3. Software hack to allow video in motion.

No offense, but considering I've already answered this question explicitly in this forum and the main B6/B7 forum, I don't think this is a project you should undertake yourself. This is not necessarily "plug and play" work. Take it to a professional to acquire these parts and perform the work.

Naudi04
04-29-2010, 09:05 AM
C-H, but for C/D you have to recode the unit to NA specs

So just to clarify this again. If you don't want to re-flash the Euro units to US and or worry about any issues, these are the only units to buy for A4/S4 B6+ correct for direct plug-n-play US?
US RNS-E only
8E0 035 192 E Audi A4 North America (B7, MY 2005.5)
8E0 035 192 F Audi A4 North America (B7, MY 2006, with SDS?) *
8E0 035 192 J Audi A4 North America (B7, MY 2006, with SDS?) *
8E0 035 192 P Audi A4 North America, MY 2007, 8E B7

Any other newer US model #'s?

And these are the disc(s) I would want for the most current maps (either)? And these map discs are compatible with all these RNS-E's above?
NAVIGATION DVD for RNS-E only
8P0 919 884 P (2007-0150) North America (3A)
8P0 919 884 Q (2007_1-0200) North America (4A)
8P0 919 884 AC (2008-0260) North America (5A) - DISABLES TV FUNCTIONALITY
8P0 919 884 AH (2009-0260) North America (6A) - TV FUNCTIONALITY STILL DISABLED

http://audiforum.us/part-numbers/7638-audi-navigation-dvd-part-numbers.html

PNW Avant
04-29-2010, 09:51 AM
Correct. You will want a North American RNS-e if you don't want to flash. There is a 2010 North American model number now but I don't know if its a straight swap like all the previous versions. There's a large thread about it on audiform.

All North American disks are compatible for North American RNS-es.

However, you'll definitely want the newest maps DVD, because these DVDs include firmware updates for the RNS-e as well. That is, unless you want video-in-motion (for playing DVDs, or back up cam), which has been disabled for software versions 0260 and above.

Edit: For that last DVD part number (AR), AGCC means "Arab Gulf Countries Council". You don't want that one.

Sharkfin
04-29-2010, 04:05 PM
All of the '09-'11 have the newest screens and are much more expensive (and harder to find)

carbonpro
06-07-2010, 05:44 PM
im looking into retro fitting my a4 b6 with rns-e,it has a concert II,single din.
apart from changing to double din cage.
would the the rnse work with the wiring????
would i recieve the info in my dis.i have the red/orange display,not multi colour.
regards.

bint2k
01-05-2011, 08:29 AM
does anyone know if the T revision will allow for the VIM hack?

koolade9
01-05-2011, 10:40 AM
^^yes.

jamerican1
02-22-2011, 11:51 PM
I have an 2008 with RNS-E and ipod integration. Would I be able to add my trunk mounted cd changer from my 2000 B5?

TRON1C
03-08-2011, 05:41 PM
Anyone successfully hooked up their 2011 RNS-E unit to play videos off the factory ipod hookup? Or enable the 2011 RNS-E unit to play video by whatever means, at all?

russant
05-10-2011, 09:42 AM
HELLO, I HAVE A 2007 A4 CABRIO WITH SATTELITE AND BLUETOOTH WITH SYMPHONY II. LOOKING AT RNS-E 8E0 035 192F WITH DISC, GPS ANTENNA, AND CODE. WHAT ELSE DO I NEED? I HAVE FOUND A LOT OF DIFFERENT ANSWERS WITH ANYWHERE FROM NEW HARNESS TO CANT BE DONE OR SIMPLY SWITCHING THE "K-LINE". PLEASE HELP!!!!!! THANKS RUSSANT

GramCracker
09-20-2011, 03:42 PM
I just got an RNS-E from a 2006 A3. I was wondering if all the Nav DVD's will work in it. I believe some are MMI disc's if I am correct. Will the MMI discs work in an RNS-E or do I need a disc specific to the RNS-E?

Thank you for any help/clarification!

AudiA4b6US
09-20-2011, 03:43 PM
Only DVDs that say RNS-E on the label will work, MMI DVDs won't work in the RNS-E.

GramCracker
09-20-2011, 04:06 PM
Only DVDs that say RNS-E on the label will work, MMI DVDs won't work in the RNS-E.

Thank you very much for the help [up]

Now I just gotta wait and see if this unit I purchased has a DVD in it or not...

Now my next question is, what is everyone's preferred way to connect their iPod to the unit?

NODO-GT
09-22-2011, 02:37 PM
is it possible to change menu color on audi RNS-E in Audi A4 b7?
navi is coloured in blue, SD/CD is in orange and i don't like orange...


also can anyone give me a link to full Bluetooth kit for RNS-E... on ebay or something...

psteph2
12-22-2011, 05:09 AM
Will my 2008 RNS-E(bose) fit and work with the new 2012 a3 w bose?

dedread6
12-22-2011, 10:38 PM
What do I need to install the RNS e into my B6 S4 ?


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onceover
01-15-2012, 03:10 PM
All of the '09-'11 have the newest screens and are much more expensive (and harder to find)

Is this true for sure? I've got a 2010 unit, but the PN is 192T, indicating old hardware, correct?

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll212/patderkacz/4efcc2d0.jpg

maxA3
04-04-2012, 08:46 PM
I just purchased a 2011 A3 TDI and the audio system says Audi Concert. Does this mean it would be better to go aftermarket or could I still go RNS-e? Which would be the best option? I've seen some nice aftermarket systems for half the price of the RNS-e.

Cheers,

Bill

3waygeek
04-05-2012, 03:12 PM
You can retrofit a RNS-e fairly easily; audiforum.us is a good place to learn how to do it. You'll need a VCDS cable (or access to a friend with one) to reprogram the car to recognize/accept the new headunit.

Lou-quattro
04-07-2012, 07:35 PM
any fitment issues for an rns-e coming from a b6 a4 cabrio to a b6 a4 sedan?

lorensson
04-13-2012, 12:06 AM
I have a 2004 s4 sedan with the 2-din tape + 6 CD unit (don't know if it's symphony or symphony II?) and I have the Bose audio option.

Sorry if this has been answered but I read through everything and it's all a bit much to understand at the start. I am interested in installing the RNS unit, but not sure which version (RNS-E, D etc) and I want the Bluetooth option. Could someone list the parts and costs of each to do it? Is it something that is a plug and play install or would I need to have it installed professionally with the Bluetooth unit?

Thanks so much!

dedread6
05-07-2012, 06:07 PM
RNS-E for sale $600. includes harness Nav antenna and map cd

bmoreS4
06-06-2012, 11:06 PM
Does anyone make a kit with all you would need to put an RNS into a B5 S4 with DD Symphony Bose system?

Bull-D
06-07-2012, 08:41 AM
if it is anything like it was to install into my 09 A3, there isn't really a kit needed. you need removal tools which you can get off ebay or likely one of the install placed in town, maybe even audi. just 4 little metal pieces that look like key blanks. also a 32 pin connector you can get from audi parts for about 28 bucks. i have the part number somewhere if you need me to dig it up. you use that to swap 3 wires from one
connector in the back to the 32 pin connector....this was done so i could use my OEM aux port that came on my A3. after that, it requires some VAG-COM mods to get all the features to work. that was it on my install. so far very happy i did the swap.

bmoreS4
06-07-2012, 09:12 AM
if it is anything like it was to install into my 09 A3, there isn't really a kit needed. you need removal tools which you can get off ebay or likely one of the install placed in town, maybe even audi. just 4 little metal pieces that look like key blanks. also a 32 pin connector you can get from audi parts for about 28 bucks. i have the part number somewhere if you need me to dig it up. you use that to swap 3 wires from one
connector in the back to the 32 pin connector....this was done so i could use my OEM aux port that came on my A3. after that, it requires some VAG-COM mods to get all the features to work. that was it on my install. so far very happy i did the swap.

Pics?

OrangeA4
06-23-2012, 10:34 PM
So no info on retrofitting Reverse cameras? ECS has the 700$ kit[rolleyes]

Found this........
http://www.factory-direct.jp/SHOP/736407/736408/list.html

Gives us hope that there are cheaper solutions. These are around 200 or less.
I'm going to look into this further and report back when I can.

Lou-quattro
07-01-2012, 06:11 AM
Alright well... After successfully using the nav for a few weeks after installing my RNS-E, my gps location is totally off now. The map DVD it came with is a burned copy and the bottom looks pretty scratched up. Could that be the problem? My gps antenna is located behind the head unit magnetized to that metal bar by the steering column which seems to be a common spot from what I've read. Audi and navteq haven't been helpful in telling me the best place to get a new map disc or which version. I'm definitely not buying one through Audi for $400 which is what they quoted me LOL. Any help would be appreciated.

Lou-quattro
07-17-2012, 07:31 PM
Bump for help.

McKVNT
01-17-2013, 05:51 AM
Quick question:

I've been reading all afternoon from various sources and am trying to figure out what I need to do this conversion. I have a 1999 S4, euro model so has pre-facelift centre console and concert headunit, I'm in the process of converting this to facelift now so space won't be an issue. What parts do I actually need for the conversion in my model? My dash has an analogue clock so I'm led to believe it does not have CanBus am I correct? What will I need?

Any help appreciated.

Chappo3.0
02-12-2013, 10:35 PM
Hey, just a question, I'm trying to sell my RNS-D nav plus that I pulled out of my 2003 a4, and I have a guy thats wanting to know if it will fit into his 2004 A8L ? He said Audi told him it was to hard and costly?

I'm thinking of selling it for $550 bucks if anybody's interested??
I'm in KEMPSEY, NEW SOUTH WALES, AUSTRALIA

jubei4769
05-07-2013, 09:20 PM
what is the part number for the rns-e with updated screen and sd slots

MadhatterPDC
07-09-2014, 10:30 AM
I apologize for the necro-bump, but I have been searching without success in finding how to access the hidden EQ settings for the RNS-E with Bose. I think this is the most relevant thread for that function. Any suggestions appreciated.

macster9090
11-08-2014, 09:47 PM
long story short i just got a 2012 unit for my b6 a4 its all new tec built in the style housing for the b6 cars i dont know anything about this unit but would like to get the best possible bluetooth working, i found an oem audi original bluetooth adapter for my car but idk how or if it will work with my unit i also want full functionality, i plan on doing a steering wheel swap soon.

thanks help is much appreciated

SlvrAvnt3.0
07-19-2015, 11:32 PM
Has anyone used the repairservice.web.com software to unlock their rns-e? I recently purchased one and dont have the code and the dealer cant get the code.

kuelderrek
04-18-2016, 03:58 PM
Today my RNS-E display (along with other center console display) keeps getting dimmer and coming back and getting dimmer and coming back like a constant loop. Today is particularly hot and my car has been sitting in the sun, not sure if that would cause this issue. I was wondering if anyone encounter the same problem before?

djinfiniTeeQ
05-16-2016, 12:26 PM
Looking at the list on the first post in this thread, it would appear that the A3/S3 RNS-E is not compatible with a '00 B5 S4. Can anyone confirm or deny at their earliest convenience? Considering buying a 1st gen A3/S3 RNS-E on eBay...

Thanks!!

Sorin Popovici
01-14-2017, 10:45 AM
Hello to everyone ! I have a power problem with my RNS-E (mk1) . The unit is mounted on an Audi a4 b6 , and it was taked from an Audi a6 c5 .The problem consists that the unit to start need a suplimentary connection beside the +,-,and can wire . The connection is made from continuos 12v to pin D13(radio on) , but the problem is that its consuming batery (the rear amplifier ) , Was anyone experience this kind of problem , is there a inside fuse ? or a relay between the main + and radio on ? P.S The unit comunicates with the dash , its chaiging the lumination ,etc.

hallvardr
01-02-2018, 05:36 AM
I found a RNS-E from an A3 cheap for sale (8P0 035 192S) can these fit in an A4?
Is the faceplate the only difference, and it's possible to get a new one, or is it not worth thinking about.

AudiA4b6US
01-02-2018, 05:51 AM
If your car needs a discrete "GALA" (speed) signal (some A4 B5 and A6 C5) then you need to find a 4B0 unit. Otherwise any RNS-E will work with proper coding. The A4 B5 and A6 C5 need the 4B0 faceplate, A4 B6 needs the 8E0 faceplate and A3 8P needs the 8P0 faceplate.

hallvardr
01-02-2018, 05:57 AM
Allright, thanks! very helpful!

Osher67
04-07-2018, 03:38 AM
Dose anyone know if or about the vim hack working on mk2 rns-e? 193 F (H06 i believe)