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Gabriel_
03-23-2016, 04:21 PM
Any one know where I can get a t3 twin scroll manifold for my b5 a4 1.8t awd

Or a turbo that's equivalent to gt3071r a/r61 with a t4 twin scroll housing?

redline380
03-23-2016, 06:01 PM
You want Agtronics. A beautiful piece, one that may make it onto my car one day. Give them a call. There is another one out there that I can't think of, and no it isn't full race.

http://store.agtronicmotorsport.com/product_info.php?cPath=40&products_id=122

http://store.agtronicmotorsport.com/images/agms31005_01.jpg

Avant Nate
03-23-2016, 06:07 PM
You may have issues with the height of that manifold since it is made for transverse engines. I know vrmm knows more about this when he made his own.

Edit. That manifold is a t4 as well. As far as I know, no one makes a TS T3 for our platform.

Seerlah
03-23-2016, 06:29 PM
California Jay would have back in the day.

redline380
03-23-2016, 06:45 PM
Edit. That manifold is a t4 as well. As far as I know, no one makes a TS T3 for our platform.

OP asked for T4 too.

Remembered the other one.

$1000 for T4 twin scroll, purpose built for longitudinal

https://jdlautodesign.net/shop/vw-1-8t-longitudinal-top-mount/#prettyPhoto

https://jdlautodesign.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/VW-Audi-B5-B6-T4-Div_2.jpg

Gabriel_
03-23-2016, 06:46 PM
You know that's what I was trying to get, I've emailed them twice and called both numbers listed on their website and still can't get ahold of them.

Gabriel_
03-23-2016, 06:49 PM
You want Agtronics. A beautiful piece, one that may make it onto my car one day. Give them a call. There is another one out there that I can't think of, and no it isn't full race.

http://store.agtronicmotorsport.com/product_info.php?cPath=40&products_id=122

http://store.agtronicmotorsport.com/images/agms31005_01.jpg

You know that's what I was trying to get, I've emailed them twice and called both numbers listed on their website and still can't get ahold of them. And redline380 I'm looking for a t3

redline380
03-23-2016, 06:50 PM
You know that's what I was trying to get, I've emailed them twice and called both numbers listed on their website and still can't get ahold of them.

Agtronics? I've heard iffy things about whether they are totally in business or not but their website is still going so that has gotta mean something.

Gabriel_
03-23-2016, 07:07 PM
A cording to this page, if you look at the top is says agtronic motor sports closed it's doors February 1st 2013 they keep the site up tho

http://www.agtronicmotorsport.com/contact.php

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A cording to this page, if you look at the top is says agtronic motor sports closed it's doors February 1st 2013 they keep the site up tho

http://www.agtronicmotorsport.com/contact.php

Avant Nate
03-23-2016, 07:17 PM
OP asked for T4 too.

Remembered the other one.

$1000 for T4 twin scroll, purpose built for longitudinal

https://jdlautodesign.net/shop/vw-1-8t-longitudinal-top-mount/#prettyPhoto

https://jdlautodesign.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/VW-Audi-B5-B6-T4-Div_2.jpg

I'm dumb. That's a decent price on that JDL.

vrmm
03-23-2016, 07:49 PM
From Mike Hood on my twinscroll post:

Full-race offers 2 manifolds, their T3 open flanged manifold that I had them make me in 2004 and their Twin scroll T4 EFR manifold which they made on my car in 2011.

JDL Auto Design offers 2 manifolds for the A4 1.8t too. One done with a T3, T4 open or a V-band flange and then they offer a divided T4. No real point in making a twin scroll T3 manifold seeing the flange is much smaller and there really isn't much options for twin scroll T3 housings.


JDL's t3 is not twin scroll aka 'divided'. I'm pretty sure no one offers twinscroll in t3.
Maybe I should drop out of school and jig up something :p

Gabriel_
03-23-2016, 07:57 PM
Well looks like I'll just get one with a T4 flange, cut it off and weld a T3...... because garrett offers a t3 housing for the 3071r

I emailed JDL to see if they would do a custom T3 twin scroll. I'll let you guys know tomorrow what they say.

vrmm
03-23-2016, 08:08 PM
If I ever buy a t4 i've planned to cut my t3 off and put a t4 on. It would require putting slits in my current piping and bending it outward so it won't be a huge restriction.
Dropping a grand on something just to 'fuck it up' is something i've learned I won't do. I hate that I spent 350$ on my 034 downpipe and cut it up to fit the angle of my twinscroll.
That said you gotta do what you gotta do... Do you have the ability to make your own? I really only takes patience. You could buy a used gas mig welder and a chop saw + materials needed for 1k..
Just sayin :)

If I didn't have the ability to make my own I would have just went t4 and lived with that. There's a ton of good options out there for it. He351vgt is t3.5 and dirt cheap. Hx35 cheap. Controlling vgt is not simple though :/ and you'd have to drill the bolt holes out a little bit.. A lot bigger than a 3071r too. A twinscroll 3071r would be sweet twinscroll so carry on! I would suggest 3078 though. I could have totally lived with my comp 5456 if it was twinscroll. Albiet it's still slow :p It was a 3078 equivalent. Lag is shitty but just what we have to deal with.

Check this out... If I ever don't buy a used turbo it'll be airwerks
http://www.full-race.com/store/turbos/borgwarner-airwerks/borgwarner-s200sx-7670-turbo.html

Avant Nate
03-23-2016, 08:46 PM
If your looking for gt3071r power, I would do a vband efr 6758.

rodgertherabit
03-23-2016, 10:49 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^thhhhhhiiisss^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Davdraco1
03-23-2016, 11:02 PM
If I ever buy a t4 i've planned to cut my t3 off and put a t4 on. It would require putting slits in my current piping and bending it outward so it won't be a huge restriction.
Dropping a grand on something just to 'fuck it up' is something i've learned I won't do. I hate that I spent 350$ on my 034 downpipe and cut it up to fit the angle of my twinscroll.
That said you gotta do what you gotta do... Do you have the ability to make your own? I really only takes patience. You could buy a used gas mig welder and a chop saw + materials needed for 1k..
Just sayin :)

If I didn't have the ability to make my own I would have just went t4 and lived with that. There's a ton of good options out there for it. He351vgt is t3.5 and dirt cheap. Hx35 cheap. Controlling vgt is not simple though :/ and you'd have to drill the bolt holes out a little bit.. A lot bigger than a 3071r too. A twinscroll 3071r would be sweet twinscroll so carry on! I would suggest 3078 though. I could have totally lived with my comp 5456 if it was twinscroll. Albiet it's still slow :p It was a 3078 equivalent. Lag is shitty but just what we have to deal with.

Check this out... If I ever don't buy a used turbo it'll be airwerks
http://www.full-race.com/store/turbos/borgwarner-airwerks/borgwarner-s200sx-7670-turbo.html

this is the exact turbo my friend is running on is 79 Malibu LS. makes 500 at the wheels at like 12lbs. Still so much more in the turbo.

Gabriel_
03-24-2016, 06:23 PM
Good news I contacted Ronnie at JDL motorsports, he said I can order a T3 flange manifold through them. Tomorrow I'm going to call and order it through him personally. I'm pretty stuck on a twin scroll 3071r and now that I have the manifold everything else sits righy into place. I'll post some pictures when it arrives. Let the build begin!

GrapeBandit
03-24-2016, 06:35 PM
why not go TS v-band?

Gabriel_
03-24-2016, 09:25 PM
I haven't Seen a v-band .61a twin scroll on atp's website

vrmm
03-24-2016, 09:26 PM
Just to be 100% he said t3 divided? Cause like I said they do offer a t3 but in an open runner setup...

vrmm
03-24-2016, 09:28 PM
I love my v band exhaust. Holy balls it's awesome. I have never thought about changing my current setup of my turbo to v band, but if could pull it off it'd definitely be worth it!

GrapeBandit
03-24-2016, 09:40 PM
I haven't Seen a v-band .61a twin scroll on atp's website
you dont want a .61 on a TS. thats tiny as shit

vrmm
03-24-2016, 09:56 PM
My open 5456 was .63 and didn't get full spool until 4500. My twin scroll Hx35 is 4200-4500 depending on the gear. I think it's the equivalent of .89. I'd definitely go .83, but .63 would be legit too for its own reasons. I like the umph throughout rather than having it drift out like I would expect the .63 to do.
I've actually only read that to be the case and haven't experienced it personally, so take that as you will..

I hate my 1.8 because it has 0 power down low. I would actually love to try a .63. I don't think it would bridge that gap though...

Gabriel_
03-25-2016, 11:10 PM
The reason in want to go .61 is because I want to spool as fast as possible. Not to mention I bored and stroked the car to a 2.0t with 8.5.1 compression, a while ago. I'm also debating on getting a gtx series instead of the gt. I want to be around 400 for this car I only drive it during the summer or when I'm working on my ultrasport.