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Tanzimur
09-07-2015, 09:13 PM
Al rite im going to cut to the chase. 97 A4 B5 Fwd 5speed, driven by metal cable DBW i believe? Trying to upgrade i have the k04 turbo from this site speedyracer.com. had it for 2 years now more then 10k miles on the turbo itself no problems to this day, obviously the aggressive tune and injectors and so forth. So i plan on purchasing this... http://www.speedyracer.com/turbokit/turbo/turbokit/T25-28-Turbo-Kits-for03-05-VW-Passat-GL-Sedan-Wagon-4D-1-8L-DOHC-TurbocharedONLY- Only cause it comes with the manifold and i could use a newer fmic, Great price as well.

Can you guys tell me exactly what specific tune, injectors, maf housing and/ or fuel pump i may need? since Aeb over the shelf tune are hard to find on bt setups. Plese get in depth as well this is going to be my winter build!

Tanzimur
09-07-2015, 09:16 PM
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A1 A2 German
09-08-2015, 12:44 AM
A) How you got 10k miles off an Ebay turbo is beyond me.

B) That Ebay GT28rs will go boom! Like, the first day. Everything else you can use forever, the turbo on the other hand forget about it.

C) Look for a 557-P Box (AEB) 630cc tune, Unitronic is well liked or go Mastro.

D) Hell yeah '97 Frontrack. Frontracks fippen move.

Avant Nate
09-08-2015, 06:35 AM
That's a pretry good deal on all that stuff, even if the turbo is junk. Who knows, maybe you'll get lucky twice.
I have the Unitronics 415cc tune, not a big fan. But I bought it with an used eliminator package. Weird mid throttle, won't run maf disconnected.
I don't suggest using that BOV though.

Tanzimur
09-08-2015, 07:12 AM
Lol thanks for the reply guys! and hell ye frontraks scoot man, i was good with the power band my cranked waste gate k04 put down lmao. And ye honestly I like to prove people wrong with the ebay turbos and shenanigans i have put exactly 13,231miles on the k04 very slight back and forth movement now but man that thing is solid!

On the other hand idk what should i go with i cant seem to find a used turbo anywhere and all the other kits are freaking 1500 bucks like wtf. Better off goin the f21 way for a couple hundred more.

Where do you guys get your setup? i checked classfields i see nothing. My other question was if i go with a diffrent turbo for example a simple t3. How do i know what tune to go with? cause the t3s i can grab locally for 100 bucks and get rebuilt with warranty 300bucks. But i would buy new like here for that.

https://turboneticsinc.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=35_91&product_id=530

FeebleBiscuit
09-08-2015, 09:09 AM
I have a 98 Quattro AEB. I would suggest the frankenturbos f21. I'm running that with c2 stage 5 tune 550 injectors with 034 dv and 044 in tank high flow fuel pump. for about the last 5k. I've been to 6 track days on and I'm running 22psi. No problems with the turbo. The only problem I had was with the pump not holding prime. The pump was supposed to have a check value but I guess not. I wired up a prime button and no problems. For the price it's hard to beat and it new so you don't have to worry about someone selling you junk. eBay turbos suck. Don't waste your money.

redline380
09-08-2015, 09:34 AM
Keep in mind when you are buying Ebay junk, you are not getting the materially quality that you would get with a genuine product.

I would personally buy used before this crap.

harrowb5
09-08-2015, 10:05 AM
034 offers a tune for the AEB BT setups

A1 A2 German
09-08-2015, 11:27 AM
You have rods?

I hope you understand you'll blow your motor on the that turbo (considering it works like your ko4). And I do not mean after 2 years, I mean could happen the first day or week. An AEB can't handle that.


If you do not have rods, and want a stupid quick car get a used gt2871r Eliminater turbo and this manifold: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/664978-XS-Power-Tubular-Manifold-For-KKK-OEM-Flange-Turbos


If you have rods you can go full frame t3 flange or what ever. I'd go used over that stuff. Keep in mind you don't need the bov and need an intercooler kit minus the map sensor flange (unless you block it). I mean, you can get one of the ~best intercoolers made for ~230 shipped:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Treadstone-TR8-500HP-intercooler-750-cfm-HP-turbo-universal-4-cylinder-/121717619877?nav=SEARCH

And for ~$70 shipped on Ebay is the full intercooler pipe kit with all couplings and clamps specifically for the drive by cable aeb. Trust me man, I understand it adds up quick to $1,500. But you're talking $1,500 to take down $60,000+ cars, it's a no brainer.

What ever route you go you'll need a hfc or testpipe and freeflow exhaust. Worry not about what injectors, fpr, and such as that all depends on the tune and is tune specific.

Avant Nate
09-08-2015, 03:08 PM
You have rods?

I hope you understand you'll blow your motor on the that turbo (considering it works like your ko4). And I do not mean after 2 years, I mean could happen the first day or week. An AEB can't handle that.


If you do not have rods, and want a stupid quick car get a used gt2871r Eliminater turbo and this manifold: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/664978-XS-Power-Tubular-Manifold-For-KKK-OEM-Flange-Turbos


If you have rods you can go full frame t3 flange or what ever. I'd go used over that stuff. Keep in mind you don't need the bov and need an intercooler kit minus the map sensor flange (unless you block it). I mean, you can get one of the ~best intercoolers made for ~230 shipped:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Treadstone-TR8-500HP-intercooler-750-cfm-HP-turbo-universal-4-cylinder-/121717619877?nav=SEARCH

And for ~$70 shipped on Ebay is the full intercooler pipe kit with all couplings and clamps specifically for the drive by cable aeb. Trust me man, I understand it adds up quick to $1,500. But you're talking $1,500 to take down $60,000+ cars, it's a no brainer.

What ever route you go you'll need a hfc or testpipe and freeflow exhaust. Worry not about what injectors, fpr, and such as that all depends on the tune and is tune specific.
Don't get the tr8, you want the tr18, see cause it's made for the 1.8. Thanks Mitch.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Treadstone-Performance-FMIC-Intercooler-Audi-TT-A4-VW-Jetta-Golf-Turbo-TR18T-/141750003935?nav=SEARCH

Tanzimur
09-08-2015, 05:41 PM
Thank you guys for all the responses and i am now going with gt2871r elim kit unless some one ha a used turbo there trying to sell lol. and yes i already have 3in downpipe to 2.5in dumped out the back also have forge dv, fmic which is off at the moment. And no rods trying to hold off on building my spare block i have sitting.

demonmk2
09-08-2015, 05:46 PM
Look into the mixflow frankenturbos?

Seerlah
09-08-2015, 06:30 PM
Don't get the tr8, you want the tr18, see cause it's made for the 1.8. Thanks Mitch.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Treadstone-Performance-FMIC-Intercooler-Audi-TT-A4-VW-Jetta-Golf-Turbo-TR18T-/141750003935?nav=SEARCH

YW! One contribution i can say i made.

Tanzimur
09-08-2015, 07:18 PM
Lol at seerlah its been a while since ive posted and seen the og crew from 2 years ago that helped me put my ish back totgether. I doubt you guys remember me but who knows lol

And no demonick are they cheaper route go with? links?

Tanzimur
09-08-2015, 07:27 PM
Ok well nvm im an impatient f**k and the whole f21 hybrid setup is right in my ball park and can order it right now but im a 97 what tune and injectors do i need? any ideas?

A1 A2 German
09-08-2015, 07:53 PM
Thanks, I was gonna correct my statement and should have said "Something like the Tr8...." But warn that the TR8 I believe is an ~1" too thick.

Tanzimur
09-09-2015, 05:28 PM
so f21 mix flow way to go, now what tune would i go with?

Believer
09-09-2015, 07:13 PM
so f21 mix flow way to go, now what tune would i go with?

I've read good things about United Motorsports' hybrid tune for the AEB.

Tanzimur
09-09-2015, 09:26 PM
Ohh sweet your on a f21 build as well lol. and omw to check it out right now!

A1 A2 German
09-09-2015, 09:32 PM
If you find a used GT2871r Elim grab that over anything, next will be the F21, use that manifold on either one.

The Unitronic file I run runs awesome, there's probably something wrong with the others guys tune or hardware. Find a 440cc file or 630cc file.

Tanzimur
09-09-2015, 10:10 PM
Gotcha man, i have a few wanted posts up on the good ol fb groups so we shall see but other words ive been spending all the cash on the beater...

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Believer
09-10-2015, 06:52 AM
Ohh sweet your on a f21 build as well lol. and omw to check it out right now!

Yes sir! It's up and running now. Need to log it and get the data off to Dave at Motoza. Runs pretty nice on the base file though - just little things that need to be tweaked.