View Full Version : Stage 1 & 2 cars. What cars can you run with?
WaspBro
04-13-2015, 04:40 PM
I'm just curious as to what my future holds. Since upgrading the S4 or S5, what cars have you guys been able to run with?
phillips2024
04-13-2015, 04:42 PM
hung with one of those new ford fusions this morning. I think it was modified
boomtime
04-13-2015, 04:42 PM
hung with one of those new ford fusions this morning. I think it was modified
right!
doug97gxe
04-13-2015, 04:54 PM
i prey on stock S4's and S5's
Chandler
04-13-2015, 04:57 PM
The s5 is heavy ;)
That body tho...
WaspBro
04-13-2015, 05:03 PM
hung with one of those new ford fusions this morning. I think it was modified
Actually had a Ford fusion before the S4. Must have been a tough one, thanks for contributing.
PSUGOLD
04-13-2015, 05:05 PM
I hung with Pookie and Rey Rey last night.
boomtime
04-13-2015, 05:06 PM
Actually had a Ford fusion before the S4. Must have been a tough one, thanks for contributing.
Probably had a 300 shot of nozz
fitzydude
04-13-2015, 05:10 PM
With my Stage 1 Revo I like to prey on Apr stg 2+ cars. Also I love killing ss camaro's, coyote mustang's, and srt 8's.
mrmomo313
04-13-2015, 05:24 PM
Haven't really run anyone with the new setup yet.. Only thing I have run on pump gas was the cla45 amg and I absolutely destroyed that thing, he was stock though so not all that fair but a win nonetheless. Just want to see what it can do in the 1/4 mile now
Well in an Auto-X last month, dry conditions in the 60's, a friend in a 2011 Porshce Caymen was giving me a hard time, he came from a heavily modified VW R32, he told me understeer was going to kil me, well when the runs were done the S4 was faster.
Dominick's S4
04-13-2015, 06:05 PM
In the 1/4 mile the Stage II S4 is a beast and the Mustangs, Camaro's and Challengers are always seeing the rear end of the S4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvvJciXQKP4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCuGeIUgbJs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6l_gRLL-Y4
The S4 can be a sleeper, that was down right funny watching the Camaro warming up tires and then getting stomped in the 1/4.
[QUOTE=Dominick's S4;10654692]In the 1/4 mile the Stage II S4 is a beast and the Mustangs, Camaro's and Challengers are always seeing the rear end of the S4./QUOTE]
eurotic
04-13-2015, 06:32 PM
In the 1/4 mile the Stage II S4 is a beast and the Mustangs, Camaro's and Challengers are always seeing the rear end of the S4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvvJciXQKP4
Would you agree that the C7 had a terrible launch and if he didn't he would have destroyed you? Regardless though that is pretty impressive running.
boomtime
04-13-2015, 06:36 PM
In the 1/4 mile the Stage II S4 is a beast and the Mustangs, Camaro's and Challengers are always seeing the rear end of the S4.
Nice vids man!
I think this is what the OP was lookin for.
Would you agree that the C7 had a terrible launch and if he didn't he would have destroyed you? Regardless though that is pretty impressive running.
Right...the "what if" strategy....LOL
Racing is about the driver not just the car. A win is a win.
Props to this dude for reppin Ingolstadt muscle.
S4 00 2.7
04-13-2015, 06:39 PM
Good vids.
Brother Owl
04-13-2015, 07:29 PM
I've started calling my car the bavarian beast - here in the mile high rarified air my boost bypass valve is pretty much closed all the time (read: stage 1).
Stock S4 can roll with ss camaro's, new 5.0's, srt-8's and walk away from pretty much any JDM under 20lbs of boost.
The looks on their faces...
agent47
04-13-2015, 08:36 PM
That second vid of the challenger getting his ass owned- priceless. This is what I love about our cars. Perfect sleepers - coming home on Saturday night doing 85, I was closing in on a ford pony. I told my wife that as soon as I am very close, he will gas it- just what happened, he downshifted quick and his exhaust was screaming trying to pull away - a few seconds later his ass was whooped in triple digits [emoji48]
D-Press
04-13-2015, 08:57 PM
STOCK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TitCbkEqJ1A
REVO Stage 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GGGuElcJ9A
I'll try to get some decent videos of that Stage 1+ pulley soon...
IbisS4
04-13-2015, 09:11 PM
Stock Porsche Carrera GTS driven by a snotty old man.
aysix
04-13-2015, 09:14 PM
Not me
Mr. Three
04-13-2015, 10:31 PM
Depending on what speed you are talking about and whether from a dig or a roll, the E92 M3 can be good fun. From a dig, you have it completely...from a roll if you are not right in the upper end of your rpms, it will creep on you into triple digits. Deep triple digits the Stage Two 3.0T will come out on top. Not that I know that or anything...officially.
boomtime
04-14-2015, 05:54 AM
Here is a good vid to compare the stock s4 to revo stage 1 vs an rs4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KfMY96v_Gc
MakeYourLuck
04-14-2015, 06:07 AM
Well im still stock and More notably I have beat a semi build wrx, a few sti's, a 2010 m3, an srt8 Cherokee a stage 2 gti...I've been smoked by a tuned 335xi and embarrassingly lost to a hooked up BRZ after a few pulls on the highway the other day...the passenger waved goodbye...Im still not over it.
schirm
04-14-2015, 06:47 AM
OK well I have a friend with a C63 he would put about 1 or so car on me he was stock. Once he got an exhaust and tune it was about 3-4 cars.
my other buddy with a 135I some crazy Tune FMIC he puts down just around 400whp, we have a dyno day on Sunday so I will know for sure. He puts 1-2 cars on me.
next friend has a stock E92 M3 and I would put about a car on him. He recently got tuned and exhaust and now he puts about a car on me.
all these races are about 40mph pulls to 100-120ish depending on locations.
Another kid who tags along sometimes has a built GT30 STI. Hes always in the back of us lol.
I have still yet to use my race gas file so not sure how I would hold up with race gas.
Deckdout2
04-14-2015, 08:25 AM
Here are a couple of mine from past runs......
Civic Redlighted, and I still pulled a better time. 12.3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUWs7K9kWmk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TXUFg6-b5k
Deckdout2
04-14-2015, 08:33 AM
OK well I have a friend with a C63 he would put about 1 or so car on me he was stock. Once he got an exhaust and tune it was about 3-4 cars.
my other buddy with a 135I some crazy Tune FMIC he puts down just around 400whp, we have a dyno day on Sunday so I will know for sure. He puts 1-2 cars on me.
next friend has a stock E92 M3 and I would put about a car on him. He recently got tuned and exhaust and now he puts about a car on me.
all these races are about 40mph pulls to 100-120ish depending on locations.
Another kid who tags along sometimes has a built GT30 STI. Hes always in the back of us lol.
I have still yet to use my race gas file so not sure how I would hold up with race gas.
You need to run them all from a dig and report back with your results. You'll fair better from a dig with the Quattro.
schirm
04-14-2015, 08:36 AM
You need to run them all from a dig and report back with your results. You'll fair better from a dig with the Quattro.
Stock clutch with just about 90,000 miles does not like digs, they are all Autos, they have the upper hand until I get an upgraded clutch.
C63 ran 12.0 before tune exhaust 11.8 after.
M3 12.6 Before tune and exhaust
135I 12.5 before FMIC
Deckdout2
04-14-2015, 08:40 AM
Stock clutch with just about 90,000 miles does not like digs, they are all Autos, they have the upper hand until I get an upgraded clutch.
C63 ran 11.8
M3 12.6
135I 12.5
Ahh, word! With those times and your mod list, you are definitely in the running to be faster then them. Get that clutch, bump uglies from a dig. Winning! :)
schirm
04-14-2015, 08:43 AM
Ahh, word! With those times and your mod list, you are definitely in the running to be faster then them. Get that clutch, bump uglies from a dig. Winning! :)
When I can justify the 3,000 to do it I might. Unfortunately in the next few months I am installing central air in my house and redoing the kitchen. about 12-15K total. Clutch is currently not on the horizon until winter 2016, unless it goes out sooner.
Deckdout2
04-14-2015, 08:46 AM
When I can justify the 3,000 to do it I might. Unfortunately in the next few months I am installing central air in my house and redoing the kitchen. about 12-15K total. Clutch is currently not on the horizon until winter 2016, unless it goes out sooner.
You mean you don't want to just get a few box fans, and grill out every single day of your life? :)
schirm
04-14-2015, 08:49 AM
You mean you don't want to just get a few box fans, and grill out every single day of your life? :)
Haha that's the goal getting my house ready to rent out and running a beach bar in Costa Rica come September. So ill be BBQing surfing and chilling. So I probably wont even have my car next winter.
Shimmy
04-14-2015, 09:03 AM
That second vid of the challenger getting his ass owned- priceless. This is what I love about our cars. Perfect sleepers - coming home on Saturday night doing 85, I was closing in on a ford pony. I told my wife that as soon as I am very close, he will gas it- just what happened, he downshifted quick and his exhaust was screaming trying to pull away - a few seconds later his ass was whooped in triple digits [emoji48]
lol, ear to ear grin too i bet.
OK well I have a friend with a C63 he would put about 1 or so car on me he was stock. Once he got an exhaust and tune it was about 3-4 cars.
my other buddy with a 135I some crazy Tune FMIC he puts down just around 400whp, we have a dyno day on Sunday so I will know for sure. He puts 1-2 cars on me.
next friend has a stock E92 M3 and I would put about a car on him. He recently got tuned and exhaust and now he puts about a car on me.
all these races are about 40mph pulls to 100-120ish depending on locations.
Another kid who tags along sometimes has a built GT30 STI. Hes always in the back of us lol.
I have still yet to use my race gas file so not sure how I would hold up with race gas.
Lighter wheels and rotors would help you as well. And of course new clutch.
agent47
04-14-2015, 09:07 AM
lol, ear to ear grin too i bet.
Trust me, my wife burst out laughing as soon as the pony was on WOT and I passed him with so much ease. He could have something messed up on his car but damn it, who cares.
AudiTFSI3o3
04-14-2015, 09:12 AM
ran with a Vantage S some time while back. results surprised ME lol
drew4392
04-14-2015, 03:54 PM
That C7 video... was the S4 using launch control or just mashing the gas in dynamic mode... I wonder. Assuming it is DSG.
Black S
04-14-2015, 04:18 PM
I'm stage 2 S5 3.0t, 4 car lengths on a 2013 RS5 0-130kmh
WaspBro
04-14-2015, 04:35 PM
Good posts, thank you guys. That's what I'm talking about. What in God's name did that civic had done? That thing was stupid. For some reason I want to eat up "muscle" cars. I don't know why but I have an urge everytime I see them. Those new 5.0s are quick as hell tho.
boomtime
04-14-2015, 05:53 PM
Good posts, thank you guys. That's what I'm talking about. What in God's name did that civic had done? That thing was stupid. For some reason I want to eat up "muscle" cars. I don't know why but I have an urge everytime I see them. Those new 5.0s are quick as hell tho.
435HP stock with an 11 to 1 compression ratio. Close to $40k with some options... its not like the old 5.slow and its definitely not as cheap either.
And wait for it... a rear mechanical limited slip torsen differential
Hofahome
04-14-2015, 06:29 PM
Haha that's the goal getting my house ready to rent out and running a beach bar in Costa Rica come September. So ill be BBQing surfing and chilling. So I probably wont even have my car next winter.
You're a dick. JK, That's when I am putting on the snow tires.
I am still stock but I was dead even 40-90mph with my buddy in a 2004 CTS-V with intake/exhaust. Did about 5 runs with the exact same results. I just ordered stage II and now he is jealous and looking into rearmount turbo kits. Haha, that thing will scream.
I also agree about beating muscle cars, for the most part mustangs and challangers. Not usually a fan of the owners.
AWD4WheelSpin
04-14-2015, 07:42 PM
400hp EVO 7...close very close until the S4 heatsoaks.....its more of a manual vs DSG race though..
Brother Owl
04-14-2015, 10:53 PM
And wait for it... a rear mechanical limited slip torsen differential
wHaT?!
NO solid rear axle ... GASP!
And an independent rear suspension... HERESY!!
Henry Ford is rolling over in his grave
eurotic
04-15-2015, 05:24 AM
Right...the "what if" strategy....LOL
Racing is about the driver not just the car. A win is a win.
Okay Vin Diesel, settle down. [;)] (Sorry I couldn't resist).
I wasn't trying to by a dick or anything. OP was asking what a Stage 1 & 2 S4 can hang with not what cars someone has beaten at the drag strip. I agree that a win is a win but by what you are saying the S4, even in stock form, could hang with any other car on the planet, in a drag race, provided the other driver pooched the run somehow. I don't think that is what the OP was looking for.
JMUNFORD
04-15-2015, 05:35 AM
Good posts, thank you guys. That's what I'm talking about. What in God's name did that civic had done? That thing was stupid. For some reason I want to eat up "muscle" cars. I don't know why but I have an urge everytime I see them. Those new 5.0s are quick as hell tho.
Lol your not the only one! I take mustangs , challengers all the time they seem like they want to go more often , I did get my self handed to by a new z28 but that's when I was stock, that and a GTR I caught up were the only cars I couldn't hang with or beat
bpang1
04-15-2015, 11:39 AM
Our cars especially tuned to Stage 1 or 2 can beat your run of the mill Mustang GT, Camaro SS and SRT8 all from a dig no problem whatsoever especially if you have the S-Tronic.
It also punches above it's weight by being faster than many other cars that you would think are at a higher level of performance but your results will vary specifically concerning a launch from a dig versus a race from 40.
I am still stock (except AWE full exhaust/downpipe and Cold Air Intake). Would like a stage 2 but my head still debate the TD1 thing in a back thread. I will wait for the final answer to pop out.
Life is ironic. I had a weird night two weeks ago ...
I led in front of a Charger SRT8 from 60 to 110. Was a fun challenge ... even though I was surprised of the result.
Like an hour after, I got COMPLETELY destroyed by an old Bugeye STI. And I mean ... completely. Pretty sure he wasn't stock... lol
Chandler
04-15-2015, 02:33 PM
I am still stock (except AWE full exhaust/downpipe and Cold Air Intake). Would like a stage 2 but my head still debate the TD1 thing in a back thread. I will wait for the final answer to pop out.
Life is ironic. I had a weird night two weeks ago ...
I led in front of a Charger SRT8 from 60 to 110. Was a fun challenge ... even though I was surprised of the result.
Like an hour after, I got COMPLETELY destroyed by an old Bugeye STI. And I mean ... completely. Pretty sure he wasn't stock... lol
I took a charger SRT about a month ago on the interstate from around 60 up to 100 and cruised for a minute or so before he took off, I was quick to follow. Maybe 110 mph until we were neck and neck again, I downshifted back into 5th and took off, hit over 160 but don't tell the cops ;)
I obviously have a tune though to go past the 155 limiter. My clutch slips EZ too, so I was being mild with acceleration. BUT - that doesn't mean the dude driving wasn't a bit scare to go that fast. you never know...
brianc21
04-15-2015, 02:50 PM
I took a charger SRT about a month ago on the interstate from around 60 up to 100 and cruised for a minute or so before he took off, I was quick to follow. Maybe 110 mph until we were neck and neck again, I downshifted back into 5th and took off, hit over 160 but don't tell the cops ;)
I obviously have a tune though to go past the 155 limiter. My clutch slips EZ too, so I was being mild with acceleration. BUT - that doesn't mean the dude driving wasn't a bit scare to go that fast. you never know...
So what happens when you go over 160? My Speedo stops at 160, does the needle break off and your just left with the digital reading?
jimrobbington
04-15-2015, 04:20 PM
I've started calling my car the bavarian beast - here in the mile high rarified air my boost bypass valve is pretty much closed all the time (read: stage 1).
Stock S4 can roll with ss camaro's, new 5.0's, srt-8's and walk away from pretty much any JDM under 20lbs of boost.
The looks on their faces...
The elevation will cause the bypass valve to stay closed without a tune? I stomp on V6's all day in my 2.0T up here, I'm sure the 3.0T can crush NA V8's all day then up here. I can't wait to get my s4 !
So what happens when you go over 160? My Speedo stops at 160, does the needle break off and your just left with the digital reading?
Really? all the ones I have seen go up to 200 mph. It actually threw me off during my test drive because 60 mph is where 40 mph would be on my car. Didn't realise I was going so fast.
mrmomo313
04-15-2015, 04:26 PM
The elevation will cause the bypass valve to stay closed without a tune? I stomp on V6's all day in my 2.0T up here, I'm sure the 3.0T can crush NA V8's all day then up here. I can't wait to get my s4 !
Really? all the ones I have seen go up to 200 mph. It actually threw me off during my test drive because 60 mph is where 40 mph would be on my car. Didn't realise I was going so fast.
B8's have the 200mph speedo. b8.5s go to 160 I think
jimrobbington
04-15-2015, 04:31 PM
B8's have the 200mph speedo. b8.5s go to 160 I think
Strange. Wonder if it can actually hit 200 mph on a long enough road with a tune even.
mrmomo313
04-15-2015, 04:43 PM
Strange. Wonder if it can actually hit 200 mph on a long enough road with a tune even.
There's this thread of what some have got it up to: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/566546-What-is-the-fastest-you-have-driven-your-B8-S4?highlight=top+speed
Seems like 180 is doable, don't know what the true top speed is though.
rs4dreams
04-15-2015, 05:25 PM
There's this thread of what some have got it up to: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/566546-What-is-the-fastest-you-have-driven-your-B8-S4?highlight=top+speed
Seems like 180 is doable, don't know what the true top speed is though.
Some German guy running APR stage 2 got up to 191 mph on an autobahn which was the top of 6th gear in his 6MT. That's probably pretty close to the true top speed. Maybe 195. Doubt it can do 200 though.... Maybe on race gas or something like that.
jimrobbington
04-15-2015, 05:51 PM
Still, I find that pretty incredible. I laugh at the threads in this section that rag on this car as being slow.
CELison
04-15-2015, 06:14 PM
Still, I find that pretty incredible. I laugh at the threads in this section that rag on this car as being slow.
all relative.
jimrobbington
04-15-2015, 06:34 PM
all relative.
Right, because their other car is a GTR
evil_O
04-15-2015, 07:19 PM
Still, I find that pretty incredible. I laugh at the threads in this section that rag on this car as being slow.
I agree.
Nice meeting you btw.
rynurz23
04-15-2015, 07:27 PM
How about a modded M5 with drag radials.
http://youtu.be/M38uvJ0XHtQ
jimrobbington
04-15-2015, 07:28 PM
I agree.
Nice meeting you btw.
Indeed, you as well sir. Hopefully I'll be a real part of this B8 community sooner rather than later.
NoFear4285
04-15-2015, 07:52 PM
I have a Roc-Euro intake / NO tune and I ever so slightly pulled on a Challenger 392 Hemi doing a 50 to 120 run. Not too shabby for going up against a 470hp rated 2-door. It must be a heavy SOB.
mrmomo313
04-15-2015, 08:36 PM
I have a Roc-Euro intake / NO tune and I ever so slightly pulled on a Challenger 392 Hemi doing a 50 to 120 run. Not too shabby for going up against a 470hp rated 2-door. It must be a heavy SOB.
Wow pretty good. Yea those chally's weigh in at a hefty 4100lb and are less aerodynamic than their charger siblings. Still have monster v8's under the hood, nice win. I wouldve put my money on the chally after 80
Chandler
04-15-2015, 09:32 PM
So what happens when you go over 160? My Speedo stops at 160, does the needle break off and your just left with the digital reading?
It was a spontaneous event and I was not thinking about that. I looked down and I was passing 155 and I thought to myself "Hehe, no more cruising at 155..." I went about 1cm past 160 before letting off. I don't recall how close to the rev limiter I was while going that fast. I suppose we could do the math if we knew the gear ratios though and get theoretical max speed - but this is assuming the motor produces enough torque to fight friction and wind resistance at 7K+ RPMs. I got the car tuned to climb higher faster not to go 200 MPH on the interstate :p
s4buckeye
04-15-2015, 09:59 PM
Haha that's the goal getting my house ready to rent out and running a beach bar in Costa Rica come September. So ill be BBQing surfing and chilling. So I probably wont even have my car next winter.
did everyone simply miss the win here?
schirm
04-16-2015, 05:22 AM
did everyone simply miss the win here?
Haha thanks!
Dominick's S4
04-17-2015, 04:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc-QvlNN2UI
cnair
04-17-2015, 04:26 PM
Okay Vin Diesel, settle down. [;)] (Sorry I couldn't resist).
I wasn't trying to by a dick or anything. OP was asking what a Stage 1 & 2 S4 can hang with not what cars someone has beaten at the drag strip. I agree that a win is a win but by what you are saying the S4, even in stock form, could hang with any other car on the planet, in a drag race, provided the other driver pooched the run somehow. I don't think that is what the OP was looking for.
Exactly...that vette was freight training at the end
roadawg
04-17-2015, 05:28 PM
You need to run them all from a dig and report back with your results. You'll fair better from a dig with the Quattro.
On the street sure, but a race prepped track not so much. A RWD C63, or tuned 335i with a good driver can cut 1.8 60 fts, you wont have much of an advantage and they will pull you on the top end by a good bit.
The S4 doesn't have the top end legs that some other cars being compared in here, anything trapping 120 or higher will run away from you regardless of what you have.
roadawg
04-17-2015, 05:34 PM
Still, I find that pretty incredible. I laugh at the threads in this section that rag on this car as being slow.
In stock form, it is pretty slow from a roll. Even tuned its not that great in the grand scheme of things.
Sorry to sound like I am hating because I am not, but there are cars like the new M3 that with a simple tune will put a bus lengths on basically any S4 out there. F80 M3's, Vette's, AMG Merc's etc all trap 125 + pretty easily with basic mods and you don't have a chance and its not close.
boomtime
04-17-2015, 05:45 PM
Okay Vin Diesel, settle down. [;)] (Sorry I couldn't resist).
I wasn't trying to by a dick or anything. OP was asking what a Stage 1 & 2 S4 can hang with not what cars someone has beaten at the drag strip. I agree that a win is a win but by what you are saying the S4, even in stock form, could hang with any other car on the planet, in a drag race, provided the other driver pooched the run somehow. I don't think that is what the OP was looking for.
vin diesel doesnt ride a gixxer thou.
get your facts straight.
How about a modded M5 with drag radials.
http://youtu.be/M38uvJ0XHtQ
Nice vid.
This is what im talking about. Reality.
Exactly...that vette was freight training at the end
Sometimes people forget about... well you know... reality. Magazine numbers arent always accurate.
Do corvettes have traction problems. Sure they do. Is the driver a rookie sure he is!
Blame the car next: the real diff fluid is in needa changin!
I will say the challenger would have also cleaned up that vette and probably did at some point that day...
S4 > Chally > Vette
Brother Owl
04-19-2015, 11:16 PM
The elevation will cause the bypass valve to stay closed without a tune? I stomp on V6's all day in my 2.0T up here, I'm sure the 3.0T can crush NA V8's all day then up here. I can't wait to get my s4 !
Here's a good thread:
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/438708-High-Altitude-N-A-vs-Supercharged
Really? all the ones I have seen go up to 200 mph. It actually threw me off during my test drive because 60 mph is where 40 mph would be on my car. Didn't realise I was going so fast.
B8's have the 200mph speedo. b8.5s go to 160 I think
My stock B8.5 6MT was really close to redline at 155... [=(]
mojangles69
04-20-2015, 09:33 AM
Here are a couple of mine from past runs......
Civic Redlighted, and I still pulled a better time. 12.3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUWs7K9kWmk
Civics = FAIL
Civic Drivers = FAIL
All that noise and you still beat him! Ah HAHAHAHA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TXUFg6-b5k
Damn you took off on that run! Awesome launch!
Can't wait to go to Z-Max with you and do this. I've been in Charlotte for almost 3 years now and still haven't been!
mojangles69
04-20-2015, 09:34 AM
Great stuff on this thread and good examples of what our cars are capable of. Our platform is severely underrated and overlooked. But i don't mind because everyone's faces as you pass them by are PRICELESS!!!
Silverbullet S4
04-20-2015, 03:29 PM
My stock B8.5 6MT was really close to redline at 155... [=(]
...and after hitting redline shift to 5th....then 6th and you should be well north of 155.[;)] Is the 6MT geared lower than the DSG? Not that I'd know *cough* but you shouldn't be anywhere near topped out/gear limited at 155mph.
antisparkplug
04-20-2015, 06:00 PM
embarrassingly lost to a hooked up BRZ after a few pulls on the highway the other day...the passenger waved goodbye...Im still not over it.
This made me LOL.
Fight back against your emotional trauma - time to get a tune!!!
doug97gxe
04-20-2015, 06:09 PM
the 6MT will pull away from the DSG at higher speeds.. the 6MT is faster
S4 00 2.7
04-20-2015, 06:18 PM
did everyone simply miss the win here?
Lol
Can't one-up that one.
Brother Owl
04-20-2015, 11:20 PM
...and after hitting redline shift to 5th....then 6th and you should be well north of 155.[;)] Is the 6MT geared lower than the DSG? Not that I'd know *cough* but you shouldn't be anywhere near topped out/gear limited at 155mph.
Hmmm... my NAV was blocking the digital readout. Damn.
Guess it's time to bomb through Utah again
Chandler
04-22-2015, 09:10 AM
In case anyone is wondering... B8.5 S4 Stage 2 can't compare to a Z06 at over 80mph on the freeway. - It isn't going to happen. There is just no way in hell. ^.^
mojangles69
04-22-2015, 09:34 AM
Well im still stock and More notably I have beat a semi build wrx, a few sti's, a 2010 m3, an srt8 Cherokee a stage 2 gti...I've been smoked by a tuned 335xi and embarrassingly lost to a hooked up BRZ after a few pulls on the highway the other day...the passenger waved goodbye...Im still not over it.
LOL! I'd be pissed! Hooked up BRZ?? Jeez, I'd sell the car! [headbang] Hahahaha, I wouldn't be over it either.
Deckdout2
04-22-2015, 10:10 AM
Damn you took off on that run! Awesome launch!
Can't wait to go to Z-Max with you and do this. I've been in Charlotte for almost 3 years now and still haven't been!
It's a blast man. It's my way to kick some stress too......beating up on peeps. ha!
mojangles69
04-22-2015, 10:19 AM
It's a blast man. It's my way to kick some stress too......beating up on peeps. ha!
Haha! Heck yeah! Until I get my tune, going to the gym will have to continue to be my stress reliever. But hopefully DSG tune will become available soon! Can't wait!
LOL! I'd be pissed! Hooked up BRZ?? Jeez, I'd sell the car! [headbang] Hahahaha, I wouldn't be over it either.
There is a well know package that you can buy to install an LS2 engine (read V8 corvette engine) in a BRZ. This change the little car into a monster, but the car is no longer balanced in any ways.
But yes, this package IS fast.
http://www.carthrottle.com/post/a-brz-with-a-6-0-corvette-v8-hell-yeah-we-want-that/
Do not get me wrong, I am not sold to this idea... AT ALL. Just wanted to point out that those freeway monsters are existing.
There is a well know package that you can buy to install an LS2 engine (read V8 corvette engine) in a BRZ. This change the little car into a monster, but the car is no longer balanced in any ways.
But yes, this package IS fast.
http://www.carthrottle.com/post/a-brz-with-a-6-0-corvette-v8-hell-yeah-we-want-that/
Do not get me wrong, I am not sold to this idea... AT ALL. Just wanted to point out that those freeway monsters are existing.
Also superchargers and turbos out now for them. Buddy of mine just finished turboing his FR-S and my other buddy has a BR-Z supercharger kit with all components sitting on his garage floor until next week or so and installing it on his.
Bludool
04-22-2015, 12:21 PM
There is also a company that has all the hardware for mounting an LS2 in a Boxter.
14IS4
04-22-2015, 12:27 PM
I took a 2014 Roush Stage 2 Mustang up to 100 by about 2 cars. I know it's pretty much a GT but my tune was still adapting. I had only had it on about 10 miles at that point.
Mr. Spectacular
04-22-2015, 01:52 PM
I took a 2014 Roush Stage 2 Mustang up to 100 by about 2 cars. I know it's pretty much a GT but my tune was still adapting. I had only had it on about 10 miles at that point.
haha i bet you were plenty excited when that opportunity arose
theswoleguy
04-22-2015, 02:30 PM
voshlag does LS kits for an E36 :)
I lost to a supercharged s2k yesterday, i only have 200 miles on my car though and stock :/
14IS4
04-22-2015, 03:27 PM
haha i bet you were plenty excited when that opportunity arose
Yeah he just happened to pull up next to me at a light and we were the first in line getting onto the highway.
schirm
04-22-2015, 05:45 PM
Tuned, trans tune, exhaust E92M3 Vs tuned, Trans tune, FMIC, Test Pipes 135i, Vs Me all on Race gas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfOpYE3sRc0
evil_O
04-22-2015, 06:48 PM
Tuned, trans tune, exhaust E92M3 Vs tuned, Trans tune, FMIC, Test Pipes 135i, Vs Me all on Race gas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfOpYE3sRc0
Better than I would have guessed! Pretty impressive not coming out of a dig.
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jimrobbington
04-22-2015, 06:51 PM
Awesome indeed
johnstah
04-23-2015, 04:41 AM
A Lexus IS350 tried racing me yesterday when I was merging on to the highway. Needless to say, I smoked him bad... He gave up when I hit 120 mph, he was about a few car lengths behind me. not sure if he was scared of getting a ticket or his car cant keep up. I am stage 2.[drive]
mojangles69
04-23-2015, 09:25 AM
There is a well know package that you can buy to install an LS2 engine (read V8 corvette engine) in a BRZ. This change the little car into a monster, but the car is no longer balanced in any ways.
But yes, this package IS fast.
http://www.carthrottle.com/post/a-brz-with-a-6-0-corvette-v8-hell-yeah-we-want-that/
Do not get me wrong, I am not sold to this idea... AT ALL. Just wanted to point out that those freeway monsters are existing.
Yeah, I've encountered many of those highway monsters where they make a lot of noise and go absolutely nowhere until they hit 70/80 mph and then they take off like a rocket.
Almost $10k for the engine swap and kit??? That's not bad at all. Fortunately for us, very few of the kids who buy BRZ's and FRS's can afford that! Phew! Hahaha.
Also superchargers and turbos out now for them. Buddy of mine just finished turboing his FR-S and my other buddy has a BR-Z supercharger kit with all components sitting on his garage floor until next week or so and installing it on his.
Hopefully just these add on turbo's and superchargers aren't enough to keep up with us. Make sure to race em and post some vids when they do install their kits! Curious to know their specs and how they compare to yours!
mojangles69
04-23-2015, 09:29 AM
I took a 2014 Roush Stage 2 Mustang up to 100 by about 2 cars. I know it's pretty much a GT but my tune was still adapting. I had only had it on about 10 miles at that point.
Nice! Those Roush's are no slouch either!
voshlag does LS kits for an E36 :)
I lost to a supercharged s2k yesterday, i only have 200 miles on my car though and stock :/
Dang. That won't happen when you're stage 2 tuned though! plus your engine is still a baby. I didn't take mine over 3k rpm's until i was at 500 miles. Even then, I didn't ever even take it close to redline until i was at 1k miles.
Tuned, trans tune, exhaust E92M3 Vs tuned, Trans tune, FMIC, Test Pipes 135i, Vs Me all on Race gas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfOpYE3sRc0
Sweet!
A Lexus IS350 tried racing me yesterday when I was merging on to the highway. Needless to say, I smoked him bad... He gave up when I hit 120 mph, he was about a few car lengths behind me. not sure if he was scared of getting a ticket or his car cant keep up. I am stage 2.[drive]
LOL! LOL at lexus drivers and them ever thinking they drive a fast car. And then realizing they fell for Lexus's stupid advertising! I've even had douches in IS 250's try to race me. LMAO!
Hofahome
04-23-2015, 06:14 PM
A Lexus IS350 tried racing me yesterday when I was merging on to the highway. Needless to say, I smoked him bad... He gave up when I hit 120 mph, he was about a few car lengths behind me. not sure if he was scared of getting a ticket or his car cant keep up. I am stage 2.[drive]
I would think that you should put more than a few car lengths on his car up to 120 if you are stage II. Not to instigate a fight, just curious.
Whitee
04-23-2015, 07:10 PM
I would think that you should put more than a few car lengths on his car up to 120 if you are stage II. Not to instigate a fight, just curious.
I would agree. Maybe it was a quick sprint.
Jay007
04-29-2015, 09:17 AM
I've started calling my car the bavarian beast - here in the mile high rarified air my boost bypass valve is pretty much closed all the time (read: stage 1).
Stock S4 can roll with ss camaro's, new 5.0's, srt-8's and walk away from pretty much any JDM under 20lbs of boost.
The looks on their faces...
I disagree with the stock will roll with SRT8's. I owned two previous to purchasing the S4.
The Jeep SRT8 (stock even) would kill a S4 from 0-60 by a good 3-4 lengths. After that, the S4 would slowly close, but not in the 1/4 mile.
The Charger would be very close 0-60, and then walk away up top and trap around 5MPH faster in the 1/4. Stock to stock.
This is comparing the 6.1 liter SRT8's as well, not the current 6.4 liters. That being said, the 6.1 jeep is faster 0-60 than the 6.4 due to weight.
Nice to see this car tuned up is as impressive as it is though. I really didn't buy it to be faster / as fast as my previous toys. I wanted something a little more refined with a much better service history.
cobrario
04-29-2015, 09:54 AM
The Jeep SRT8 (stock even) would kill a S4 from 0-60 by a good 3-4 lengths. After that, the S4 would slowly close, but not in the 1/4 mile.
y.
I'm not sure which stock SRT Jeep you had but with poorer aerodynamics and @ about 5000 lb I find it hard to believe it would pull a stock S4 @ any point in a race. Glad you're enjoying yours [:)]
adrianm8
04-29-2015, 09:59 AM
I disagree with the stock will roll with SRT8's. I owned two previous to purchasing the S4.
The Jeep SRT8 (stock even) would kill a S4 from 0-60 by a good 3-4 lengths. After that, the S4 would slowly close, but not in the 1/4 mile.
The Charger would be very close 0-60, and then walk away up top and trap around 5MPH faster in the 1/4. Stock to stock.
This is comparing the 6.1 liter SRT8's as well, not the current 6.4 liters. That being said, the 6.1 jeep is faster 0-60 than the 6.4 due to weight.
Nice to see this car tuned up is as impressive as it is though. I really didn't buy it to be faster / as fast as my previous toys. I wanted something a little more refined with a much better service history.
Interesting since you are a previous owner. I've ran two SRT-8 Jeeps from a dig (new on dealer plates last summer, and a first gen two years ago) and edged both by half a length or so up to about 100km/h before shutting down. The new one I ran against twice and same result. I am stock with an intake.
johnstah
04-29-2015, 10:07 AM
I would think that you should put more than a few car lengths on his car up to 120 if you are stage II. Not to instigate a fight, just curious.
If I had fully depress the gas and kept it in "S", it would've been a quick kill. I believe I was in a higher gear at the time and downshifted and upshifted too early but nonetheless, he got rekted [:D]
Rez90
04-29-2015, 10:17 AM
I'm not sure which stock SRT Jeep you had but with poorer aerodynamics and @ about 5000 lb I find it hard to believe it would pull a stock S4 @ any point in a race. Glad you're enjoying yours [:)]
I also just sold my 2010 Jeep SRT8 for my new S4. The Jeep was faster in pretty much every aspect of acceleration.
My Jeep would put a car length on my X5M from 50-100. and my X5M put 3 car lengths on my S4 from 40-100.
bgm130
04-29-2015, 10:20 AM
The Jeep SRT8 (stock even) would kill a S4 from 0-60 by a good 3-4 lengths. After that, the S4 would slowly close, but not in the 1/4 mile.
i also had a 2007 SRT8 jeep and just NO to this. 0-60 is much better on the s4 with bolt on mods to the jeep(t-stat, flash, exhaust, intake) they are just about 4.0 0-60.
EHesh14
04-29-2015, 10:22 AM
I just raced a 2014 458 spider last night from about 60-130 and he only had me by a car length. I beat a stage 2+ focus st by a car length & won against a new srt8 by a few car lengths. Giac stage 2 with alpha boost cooler and all supporting mods. I've been thinking about adding a race gas file so i can keep up with my bro's 10 Wrx with a fully built stage 2 block engine with a rotated gtx35 and sti spec ra gear set minus sleeves.
Anyone know how much it would cost to add a file plus the program switcher?
AudBoost
04-29-2015, 10:50 AM
Tuned, trans tune, exhaust E92M3 Vs tuned, Trans tune, FMIC, Test Pipes 135i, Vs Me all on Race gas.
Much better results than I expected. Was thinking the 135 would run away with the show. A correctly tuned FBO (full bolt ons) N54 are beasts.
schirm
04-29-2015, 10:51 AM
Much better results than I expected. Was thinking the 135 would run away with the show. A correctly tuned FBO (full bolt ons) N54 are beasts.
Yeah if we are both on pump gas he puts like 2 cars on me.
AudBoost
04-29-2015, 11:21 AM
Yeah if we are both on pump gas he puts like 2 cars on me.
Still... great run against some stacked cars.
Jay007
04-29-2015, 11:22 AM
I'm not sure which stock SRT Jeep you had but with poorer aerodynamics and @ about 5000 lb I find it hard to believe it would pull a stock S4 @ any point in a race. Glad you're enjoying yours [:)]
0-60 numbers on a stock 2008-2010 Jeep SRT8 are in the 4.4 to 4.6 second range. A full half second quicker there than a stock S4. One exception to this is at much higher attitudes, the gap can be smaller do to the S4 being supercharged, vs the NA engine in the SRT8. I live at 3,500 feet though and I'm sure the Jeep is still a fair deal faster 0-60. Not much will touch them from a dig. Including 555+HP / $100k+ vehicles.
My Jeep tipped the scales at 4950ish with a full tank of fuel and me in it. The current gens are around 400lbs heavier.
Jay007
04-29-2015, 11:28 AM
i also had a 2007 SRT8 jeep and just NO to this. 0-60 is much better on the s4 with bolt on mods to the jeep(t-stat, flash, exhaust, intake) they are just about 4.0 0-60.
Strange there is so much conflicting information / thoughts on this.
So your saying your Jeep was in the 4.0 second range 0-60 or the S4? (with what mods?!)
Most of the bolt-on mods only help the SRT8's at higher speeds from my experience. I think I may have cut a tenth or maybe two tops off the stock 0-60's with bolt-ons and tune, but 60-110 it made a difference of a half second or even a touch more.
Jay007
04-29-2015, 11:37 AM
Interesting since you are a previous owner. I've ran two SRT-8 Jeeps from a dig (new on dealer plates last summer, and a first gen two years ago) and edged both by half a length or so up to about 100km/h before shutting down. The new one I ran against twice and same result. I am stock with an intake.
I could see that on the current gen model. They are definitely slower in the 0-60 than the previous, and I would think they would be very similar to the S4 in that range. They are also quicker up top now with different gearing and even more displacement. Could still be close with the two.
As for the previous gen run you had, that's a good result I would think being that you are stock. That impresses me if we can get our stock S4's to compete with a Jeep SRT8 in our altitude ranges. I still expect 9 times out of 10 though they would get us having driven one for 5 years. I never ran a S4 at the track unfortunately, but I did get to run few times against a 2012 stage 1 335xi. I would get him every time by a ways 0-60 but it was close in the 1/4 mile. He was typically only a tenth or two back from my 13.2-13.3's.
cobrario
04-29-2015, 11:48 AM
. I never ran a S4 at the track unfortunately...from my 13.2-13.3's.
maybe you should take your S4 to the track too.
Jay007
04-29-2015, 01:28 PM
maybe you should take your S4 to the track too.
That's the plan. Unfortunately the closest track to Calgary is now about 300km's away!
Keep in mind those times are at 2600-3400 feet above as well for comparison.
I would hope a stock S4 could crack the high 13's around that altitude on a decent temp day?
mrmomo313
04-29-2015, 01:50 PM
I also just sold my 2010 Jeep SRT8 for my new S4. The Jeep was faster in pretty much every aspect of acceleration.
My Jeep would put a car length on my X5M from 50-100. and my X5M put 3 car lengths on my S4 from 40-100.
Didn't you have stuff done to your Jeep though? Recognize the sig from bimmerpost. My stage 2 x5m will beat any 6.1 or 6.4 SRT jeep with bolt ons from a dig or roll on. With FI on the 6.1 jeeps thats another story, they will walk the M all day. At stage 2 on the s4 (race gas ~500hp) it is faster than stage 2 x5m (pump, 640hp). Stock vs stock though, yes the M puts a whooping on the s4.
mrmomo313
04-29-2015, 01:52 PM
I just raced a 2014 458 spider last night from about 60-130 and he only had me by a car length. I beat a stage 2+ focus st by a car length & won against a new srt8 by a few car lengths. Giac stage 2 with alpha boost cooler and all supporting mods. I've been thinking about adding a race gas file so i can keep up with my bro's 10 Wrx with a fully built stage 2 block engine with a rotated gtx35 and sti spec ra gear set minus sleeves.
Anyone know how much it would cost to add a file plus the program switcher?
Don't know on the price for GIAC but wanted to say the race gas file is so worth it. Really a whole different animal compared to pump gas map imo. Def consider getting it if you want to maximize what you can get out of the car
cobrario
04-29-2015, 01:59 PM
That's the plan. Unfortunately the closest track to Calgary is now about 300km's away!
well I hope you can make it at some point
Keep in mind those times are at 2600-3400 feet above as well for comparison.
I would hope a stock S4 could crack the high 13's around that altitude on a decent temp day?
- I think you may be underestimating your S4- guess we will see.
adrianm8
04-29-2015, 02:09 PM
That's the plan. Unfortunately the closest track to Calgary is now about 300km's away!
Keep in mind those times are at 2600-3400 feet above as well for comparison.
I would hope a stock S4 could crack the high 13's around that altitude on a decent temp day?
Maybe I can test it out as it's much closer for me. [:D]
Brother Owl
04-29-2015, 04:45 PM
I'm at 5280 altitude where our supercharged V6's will walk on almost any NA V8. Just sayin
I disagree with the stock will roll with SRT8's. I owned two previous to purchasing the S4.
The Jeep SRT8 (stock even) would kill a S4 from 0-60 by a good 3-4 lengths. After that, the S4 would slowly close, but not in the 1/4 mile.
The Charger would be very close 0-60, and then walk away up top and trap around 5MPH faster in the 1/4. Stock to stock.
This is comparing the 6.1 liter SRT8's as well, not the current 6.4 liters. That being said, the 6.1 jeep is faster 0-60 than the 6.4 due to weight.
Nice to see this car tuned up is as impressive as it is though. I really didn't buy it to be faster / as fast as my previous toys. I wanted something a little more refined with a much better service history.
helli217
04-30-2015, 07:08 PM
435HP stock with an 11 to 1 compression ratio. Close to $40k with some options... its not like the old 5.slow and its definitely not as cheap either.
And wait for it... a rear mechanical limited slip torsen differential
This made me laugh. There is so much hate on the Mustangs.
(DISCLAIMER) I am not brand loyal. I like fast cars, no matter who made them. I am unbiased. I've had many Audi's and am likely buying a B8.5 very soon...living in NY, outright performance is not my primary concern anymore. I want a car I don't have to garage for 7 months out of the year. :)
Mine's a 2012 GT/CS 6MT, 3.73, limited slip, etc. The new Mustang does have 15 more horsepower, but almost 200 lbs. heavier in most configurations. Stock for stock, they are slower than the 2011-14.
Although it was probably due for independent rear, there is something fun about it, and given the proper grip it rocks for drag racing.
My car is only off road X-pipe, GT500 exhaust, Airaid intake and AED tune. (Shifter, suspension, rear lowers and relo brackets) It traps 116-117. This is not a freak or unheard of. Add a cobrajet intake manifold and longtube headers and they are trapping 121-125. Also, if you've never driven one, the solid rear on this generation is not bad at all, just takes a little getting used too. I've owned alot of fast (much faster) vehicles and this car arguably the most fun. It's rowdy, loud, and fast as hell for very little investment. If I didn't live in the northeast the car would not be for sale.
Anyway, sorry to derail...
Silverbullet S4
04-30-2015, 07:57 PM
I'm at 5280 altitude where our supercharged V6's will walk on almost any NA V8. Just sayin
Yup. Lookin down on the mile high from here and can confirm 500hp+ NA's get raped at altitude. Have to watch out for some sleeper Evo's, STI's and blown 'stang/vette's though....
Brother Owl
04-30-2015, 07:58 PM
Yup. Lookin down on the mile high from here and can confirm 500hp+ NA's get raped at altitude. Have to watch out for some sleeper Evo's, STI's and blown 'stang/vette's though....
+1
EWM AMIN
04-30-2015, 08:27 PM
That second vid of the challenger getting his ass owned- priceless. This is what I love about our cars. Perfect sleepers - coming home on Saturday night doing 85, I was closing in on a ford pony. I told my wife that as soon as I am very close, he will gas it- just what happened, he downshifted quick and his exhaust was screaming trying to pull away - a few seconds later his ass was whooped in triple digits [emoji48]
It's moments like these that I love... The prediction, the event, the smile to your wife... & no one says a word.
Almost happened to me, but when I smiled, my wife said "Thier cops on the bridge") and sure enough they had a radar... Best news was, I didn't see the Mustang, so I assume he was the one they caught.
AudiTFSI3o3
04-30-2015, 08:52 PM
was on my way home from dinner with the lady and an e92 M3 rolls up next to me at the light. gives me the look and on green we take off. I walked him. not once, not twice, but about 4 times we did that. given each run was only 1/8th mile, it was still awesome.
cobrario
05-08-2015, 12:04 PM
I wasn't interested because the outcome was forgone -but after being pushed obliged a guy in an Infiniti Q50s with 30 day tags, it didn't turn out well for him. He must not read much... [:D]
idriveans4
05-08-2015, 12:05 PM
was on my way home from dinner with the lady and an e92 M3 rolls up next to me at the light. gives me the look and on green we take off. I walked him. not once, not twice, but about 4 times we did that. given each run was only 1/8th mile, it was still awesome.
did ur lady leave u?