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Chandler
04-11-2015, 02:04 PM
How many people would be interested in some sort of plate that is installed between the OEM accelerator pedal and arm to bring the pedal up a hair or three? I use heel and toe daily to down shift while breaking to a light or even entering corners. Sometimes I slip because of the pedals. I actually don't heal/ toe, I have a small portion on the gas and the rest on the brake down the center of my foot. I cheat a little from the original method.
Anyway, before I crawl around and even see what would need to be done to make it a practical mod... I thought I would ask.
Brother Owl
04-11-2015, 03:46 PM
I know the feeling and would def be interested. Having to shimmy my foot from the brake to the gas while exiting a corner has become an exercise in frustration...
And don't worry about cheating from the 'original method' it's kind of hard to do a 'true' heel/toe with size 13 shoes
Chandler
04-11-2015, 05:27 PM
I know the feeling and would def be interested. Having to shimmy my foot from the brake to the gas while exiting a corner has become an exercise in frustration...
And don't worry about cheating from the 'original method' it's kind of hard to do a 'true' heel/toe with size 13 shoes
I hear you. I am a 10.5 or 11 in my new balances. They are not exactly driving shoes.
M3KILR
04-11-2015, 06:02 PM
Don't have any issues with the B8 had to get new pedals on my B5 for proper heel and toe I'm a 9w fwiw.
Schadenfreude
04-11-2015, 06:36 PM
I always felt it was the spacing, not the height that made heel toe awkward. I've always like the AWE Tuning pedals in terms of bringing the pedals closer together and giving a bit more grip.
Brother Owl
04-11-2015, 06:44 PM
I always felt it was the spacing, not the height that made heel toe awkward. I've always like the AWE Tuning pedals in terms of bringing the pedals closer together and giving a bit more grip.
Hmmm I'll have to check out the Awe pedals as I have noticed the stock ones are quite slick with wet shoes - I live in CO so inclement weather is the norm!
My experience is that heel/toe downshifts in a corner when you're not applying full pressure to the brake means you have to tilt your toes 2-3 inches towards the firewall to get the revs matched
I think this experience is what the OP was referring to
Schadenfreude
04-12-2015, 04:53 AM
Hmmm I'll have to check out the Awe pedals as I have noticed the stock ones are quite slick with wet shoes - I live in CO so inclement weather is the norm!
My experience is that heel/toe downshifts in a corner when you're not applying full pressure to the brake means you have to tilt your toes 2-3 inches towards the firewall to get the revs matched
I think this experience is what the OP was referring to
I agree about the slippery pedal feel when wet. It was the actual reason I have been looking at the AWE pedals as they have rubber nubs for grip.
http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww10/rarekker/newpedals_installed_2_zps0e280c32.jpg (http://s700.photobucket.com/user/rarekker/media/newpedals_installed_2_zps0e280c32.jpg.html)
Chandler
04-12-2015, 08:48 AM
Hmmm I'll have to check out the Awe pedals as I have noticed the stock ones are quite slick with wet shoes - I live in CO so inclement weather is the norm!
My experience is that heel/toe downshifts in a corner when you're not applying full pressure to the brake means you have to tilt your toes 2-3 inches towards the firewall to get the revs matched
I think this experience is what the OP was referring to
Yes I am referring to very aggressive driving, keeping the car closer to redline then idle. Because of the pedal spacing and the difference length between the firewall per each pedal, the foot can slip off quite easily. Though this would be partially corrected by closer pedals as well.
I will look into the awe pedals mentioned above. I suspect they are a little wider? I like my OEM pedal look, clean aluminum with the black rubber. I wish the rubber was a little more aggressive so there was better grip when wet.
Edit, the photo just loaded on my phone. I actually can't image those being better with a wet foot then the pedals I have. I believe I have the s line package or some upgraded OEM version of pedals but I thought it was common. My foot is only slick at the edge of the pedal where the bevel is.
LYKUNO
04-12-2015, 12:58 PM
You guys might want to consider the SRPracing pedals. A friend has these billet pedals in his B8 S4 and loves them. Great grip/no slip and a feature that makes heel and toe work easier. An excerpt from their website (http://www.srpracing.com/rd_department.cfm): "We do our R&D on the track. Many of our customers buy our pedals because of the show quality looks. However, we make our pedals for serious use. Our passion is driving, on the street and track. Our pedals are made to enhance your driving through improved heel toe sizing and improved grip. Our pedals will typically have 1/2" to 3/4" of extra material on the left side of the gas pedal. Once installed, you can fine tune the height relationship between the gas pedal and brake pedal to furthur enhance your heel toe performance." They have a variety of pedal surface options (http://www.srpracing.com/pd-surface-finish.cfm) and anodizing colors as shown here (http://www.srpracing.com/pedal_pictures.cfm). The A4/S4 pedal set is $119 and the footrest if desired is $45:
http://www.srpracing.com/prod_images_large/a4_block_black_silver2.jpg
http://www.srpracing.com/misc_images/makingchips20140207_102259BU.jpg
Okan509
04-12-2015, 01:06 PM
^ those actually look like you would have traction in the wet.
the awe pedals looks like you would still be slippin and sliding all over.
Brother Owl
04-12-2015, 01:58 PM
You guys might want to consider the SRPracing pedals. A friend has these billet pedals in his B8 S4 and loves them. Great grip/no slip and a feature that makes heel and toe work easier. An excerpt from their website (http://www.srpracing.com/rd_department.cfm): "We do our R&D on the track. Many of our customers buy our pedals because of the show quality looks. However, we make our pedals for serious use. Our passion is driving, on the street and track. Our pedals are made to enhance your driving through improved heel toe sizing and improved grip. Our pedals will typically have 1/2" to 3/4" of extra material on the left side of the gas pedal. Once installed, you can fine tune the height relationship between the gas pedal and brake pedal to furthur enhance your heel toe performance." They have a variety of pedal surface options (http://www.srpracing.com/pd-surface-finish.cfm) and anodizing colors as shown here (http://www.srpracing.com/pedal_pictures.cfm). The A4/S4 pedal set is $119 and the footrest if desired is $45:
http://www.srpracing.com/prod_images_large/a4_block_black_silver2.jpg
http://www.srpracing.com/misc_images/makingchips20140207_102259BU.jpg
I'm liking those especially with the extra material between the accelerator and brake.
Good find
AKPS4
04-12-2015, 05:04 PM
I'm not good with heel and toe. It it seems like these pedals will make it much easier/better.
Brother Owl
04-13-2015, 03:27 PM
OP if you decide to fab anything let us know - I would also be interested in hearing anybody's experience with the SRPracing pedals mentioned above
LYKUNO
04-13-2015, 04:44 PM
OP if you decide to fab anything let us know - I would also be interested in hearing anybody's experience with the SRPracing pedals mentioned above
Here's an installation and review of the SRPracing pedals by an Evo owner that might be helpful: http://www.evolutionm.net/forums/vendor-service-parts-tuning-review/668219-review-srp-racing-custom-aluminum-racing-pedals.html
Chandler
04-13-2015, 04:57 PM
OP if you decide to fab anything let us know - I would also be interested in hearing anybody's experience with the SRPracing pedals mentioned above
My idea was to just raise the stock pedal because I prefer the look. But at the cost of these pedals that appear to bolt up and have more material there is no reason for me to create something that will ultimately just be a spacer. I like the kick out on all of the gas pedals... nothing I could make would give the same performance and be aesthetically pleasing.
OldSport//
04-27-2015, 07:57 AM
Great thread OP, thanks!
I just learned how to heel tow and the stock pedals are not working for me!! After reading the above I plan to try the SRPracing pedals or the AWE pedals. Will report back after I make a decision and try them out.
OldSport//
06-01-2015, 11:04 AM
Great thread OP, thanks!
I just learned how to heel tow and the stock pedals are not working for me!! After reading the above I plan to try the SRPracing pedals or the AWE pedals. Will report back after I make a decision and try them out.
I just wanted to provide an update, I contacted AWE and they indicated that there is a slight difference between B8 and B8.5 pedals and they don't have a B8.5 kit yet, bummer. I'm planning to contact SRPracing next to see if they've developed a B8.5 kit.
OldSport//
06-04-2015, 02:32 PM
I'm now working with Brian at SRPracing to develop a semi-custom pedal set. I think I want the accelerator to have a but wider lower kick-out section than their standard design to make side-blipping the throttle easier.
Has anyone else changed their pedals out and do you have any advice if so?
The Fat Kid
06-04-2015, 03:06 PM
Great thread OP, thanks!
I just learned how to heel tow and the stock pedals are not working for me!! After reading the above I plan to try the SRPracing pedals or the AWE pedals. Will report back after I make a decision and try them out.
I'm now working with Brian at SRPracing to develop a semi-custom pedal set. I think I want the accelerator to have a but wider lower kick-out section than their standard design to make side-blipping the throttle easier.
Has anyone else changed their pedals out and do you have any advice if so?
The pedals in my B6 A4 felt like they were not made for heel/toeing until I got better at it, and then they were fine. Maybe practice more before building a custom set of pedals since your wants might change with better technique?
I'm now working with Brian at SRPracing to develop a semi-custom pedal set. I think I want the accelerator to have a but wider lower kick-out section than their standard design to make side-blipping the throttle easier.
Has anyone else changed their pedals out and do you have any advice if so?
Do you know if SRPracing pedals fit B8.5 S4? I am surprised there are differences between B8 and B8.5.
OldSport//
06-17-2015, 06:54 PM
Do you know if SRPracing pedals fit B8.5 S4? I am surprised there are differences between B8 and B8.5.
I was surprised as well but both AWE and SRPracing said there were differences. I'm working with SRPracing on a proper B8.5 pedal setup now, will keep everyone posted and share some pics once they're installed and tested.
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I was about too order SRP pedal for my 2014 6MT and called SRP racing. I left a message and Brian returned my call in 10 min. It is true , there is some difference between B8 and B8.5. I was told they may have pedals for B8.5 in a week or two. This would be great.
I am going to call SRP racing at the end of this week. Hopefully I will be ordering my pedals soon.
AKPS4
06-18-2015, 04:04 AM
I have the SRP pedals for B8. will completly change the feel of the brake/gas and make it much easier to heel-toe. Awesome grip too
OldSport//
06-18-2015, 05:41 AM
I have the SRP pedals for B8. will completly change the feel of the brake/gas and make it much easier to heel-toe. Awesome grip too
Awesome, thanks for sharing, can't wait to get my pedals! Would you mind sharing a photo of yours when you have a chance?
switchedstance
06-18-2015, 06:12 AM
I don't have an issue, but I have had essentially the same pedal box in the last 4 cars. I have a size 14, and I toe the brake pedal and roll my foot sideways to blip the throttle. It's really more of a side and side, but works well for my clodhoppers.
AKPS4
06-18-2015, 08:05 AM
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/18/ba7d2602caa97536b50b8b0d4d9dddb6.jpg
OldSport//
06-18-2015, 10:33 AM
Very nice looking set of pedals, thanks!
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I'm now working with Brian at SRPracing to develop a semi-custom pedal set. I think I want the accelerator to have a but wider lower kick-out section than their standard design to make side-blipping the throttle easier.
Has anyone else changed their pedals out and do you have any advice if so?
Hi OldSport
It looks like we both are trying to get SRP pedals for 6 MT B8.5.
I talked to Brian today and he does not have "footprints" of our pedals. Are you going to make a template and send to him so he can fabricate those pedals?
OldSport//
06-20-2015, 06:38 AM
Hi OldSport
It looks like we both are trying to get SRP pedals for 6 MT B8.5.
I talked to Brian today and he does not have "footprints" of our pedals. Are you going to make a template and send to him so he can fabricate those pedals?
I am planning to do this yes. I've been away on vacation but return home today and plan to make the templates tomorrow. I'll let you know once this is done and we can both get our pedals in process.
Could you please make a template for a footrest at the same time?
sh!tmagnet
06-20-2015, 09:17 AM
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/18/ba7d2602caa97536b50b8b0d4d9dddb6.jpg
Is it just me or does that gas pedal look thicker? I mean it would be a good thing cause I think that's the biggest problem with trying to do heal to toe right now is the different in height.
AKPS4
06-20-2015, 05:44 PM
There is extra material on the left side of the gas pedal to close the gap between the brake and gas pedals. Here are two more pics
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/20/148734c18a286670d008ab728742782d.jpg
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/20/0b6bad0613757495261aec86672feeaa.jpg
OldSport//
06-20-2015, 06:07 PM
Could you please make a template for a footrest at the same time?
I'll give it a try. I have read a few b8 threads with folks struggling to reinstall these but I think I can handle it. May as well get the whole set done anyway.
OldSport//
06-20-2015, 06:09 PM
Thanks for the extra pictures, your pedals look great! I may go for the exact same design.
doug97gxe
06-20-2015, 06:30 PM
if i have DSG what do i do with the extra pedal plate?
sh!tmagnet
06-20-2015, 06:31 PM
I'm pretty sure there's a different order option for DSG
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sh!tmagnet
06-20-2015, 06:32 PM
There is extra material on the left side of the gas pedal to close the gap between the brake and gas pedals. Here are two more pics
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/20/148734c18a286670d008ab728742782d.jpg
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/20/0b6bad0613757495261aec86672feeaa.jpg
So can you adjust the height/thickness of the gas pedal?
Chandler
06-20-2015, 07:39 PM
So can you adjust the height/thickness of the gas pedal?
I don't think it is adjustable :p
It looks like the pedal is not flat, and it is raised on the left. A few side profile shots would answer this.
sh!tmagnet
06-20-2015, 07:54 PM
So how exactly does this improve heek toe then, by reducing the gap between the pedals? I've personally found the biggest problem is the height difference between the brake pedal and the gas... Or maybe my feet are just dumb
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Chandler
06-21-2015, 12:36 AM
So how exactly does this improve heek toe then, by reducing the gap between the pedals? I've personally found the biggest problem is the height difference between the brake pedal and the gas... Or maybe my feet are just dumb
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I agree, for me it is height. Hence me wanting to make a spacer plate of some sort. A lot of people these days cheat and roll their foot between the two pedals instead of doing the traditional heal toe. I do this in the S4 because it is not possible for me otherwise.
sh!tmagnet
06-21-2015, 06:01 AM
I agree, for me it is height. Hence me wanting to make a spacer plate of some sort. A lot of people these days cheat and roll their foot between the two pedals instead of doing the traditional heal toe. I do this in the S4 because it is not possible for me otherwise.
Have you spoke to SRP at all about making a thicker pedal or spacers? I thought I read on their site somewhere that you could do add spacers? Either way I do like the the look of these pedals, very nicely designed and engineered it would seem.
AKPS4
06-21-2015, 06:14 AM
I don't think it is adjustable :p
It looks like the pedal is not flat, and it is raised on the left. A few side profile shots would answer this.
The only adjustability you will get is when mounting the pedals. There are many mounting holes as you can see but the base pedals have limited space to fasten into. There is room for several mm's of adjustment up/down/left/right but thats really it. I was more concerned about the pedals hitting my floor mat or carpet, but that ended up working out ok.
OldSport//
06-21-2015, 07:03 AM
Removing the brake/clutch/gas pedals was quite easy. For the brake pedal you literally just pull straight back (I pulled from the top). Then for the gas and clutch pedal, run your fingers around the back of the pedals to get an idea that there is rubber covering every side and corner. You then need to pick the weakest corner, pry the rubber from that corner back with your fingers and then pull towards you. I imagine the reinstall will be quite a bit harder, we'll see. Then I haven't figured out the dead pedal quite yet but making templates for the rest now.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/21/810f9e74aac59a40cb4cca5eefe11141.jpg
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/21/7e210c9d8dac00a8c0d81def37df97eb.jpg
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/21/9206d5bcb3534e30252037b4802e450c.jpg
OldSport//
06-21-2015, 08:20 AM
The templates have been made and I'll be sending them to Brian shortly. FWIW, the reinstall of these was painful but doable. Once you've figured it out you could install these much more easily the next time, it's all about starting with the correct corner or end and then ending up on a corner that you can hold the rubber up on so it will slide back on with the pedal being pushed towards that corner. Anyway, you probably won't have to do this if you get screw-attach pedals but thought I'd mention it. Perhaps we can re-sell our factory pedals to a4/a5 owners.
Chandler
06-21-2015, 09:46 AM
Have you spoke to SRP at all about making a thicker pedal or spacers? I thought I read on their site somewhere that you could do add spacers? Either way I do like the the look of these pedals, very nicely designed and engineered it would seem.
I have not. I was going to do a home brewed solution and then see if it was worth taking to production. I personally just wanted to bring my accelerator up. I figured a dense rubber spacer would do the trick.
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The templates have been made and I'll be sending them to Brian shortly. FWIW, the reinstall of these was painful but doable. Once you've figured it out you could install these much more easily the next time, it's all about starting with the correct corner or end and then ending up on a corner that you can hold the rubber up on so it will slide back on with the pedal being pushed towards that corner. Anyway, you probably won't have to do this if you get screw-attach pedals but thought I'd mention it. Perhaps we can re-sell our factory pedals to a4/a5 owners.
Thanks a lot for the templates. I hope once Brian gets them it should not be long till he will have the product ready.[wrench][:)]c
sh!tmagnet
06-21-2015, 10:48 AM
I have not. I was going to do a home brewed solution and then see if it was worth taking to production. I personally just wanted to bring my accelerator up. I figured a dense rubber spacer would do the trick.
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What about having SRP make a spacer out of aluminum seeing as they will have the template for the B8.5 shortly and they already have the B8 pedals?
Chandler
06-21-2015, 10:57 AM
What about having SRP make a spacer out of aluminum seeing as they will have the template for the B8.5 shortly and they already have the B8 pedals?
I will reach out to them later this week unless you beat me to it. I am going out of town tomorrow until Wednesday and will probably not have free time to make such a leisurely phone call. I could email though.
The next thing is I have the b8.5 pedals, but the S line ones. I believe they are different then the regular premium plus pedals? That is what my sales person said anyway. Maybe she was thinking of the b8 pedals.
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sh!tmagnet
06-21-2015, 11:02 AM
I will reach out to them later this week unless you beat me to it. I am going out of town tomorrow until Wednesday and will probably not have free time to make such a leisurely phone call. I could email though.
The next thing is I have the b8.5 pedals, but the S line ones. I believe they are different then the regular premium plus pedals? That is what my sales person said anyway. Maybe she was thinking of the b8 pedals.
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I can most certainly make the call. I'm looking for the B8 setup myself, but I can inquire about both. I'm out of town at the moment (and without my car [=(] ), but would you happen to know approximately how thick a spacer would be required to make them more or less the same height? As I'm sure they will ask how thick a spacer we're looking for. Also anyone in particular I should talk to over there?
Cheers
Chandler
06-21-2015, 11:06 AM
I can most certainly make the call. I'm looking for the B8 setup myself, but I can inquire about both. I'm out of town at the moment (and without my car [=(] ), but would you happen to know approximately how thick a spacer would be required to make them more or less the same height? As I'm sure they will ask how thick a spacer we're looking for. Also anyone in particular I should talk to over there?
Cheers
I am also without my car. It is in the shop, almost 50 days now... my clutch assembly will arive likely by Thursday, meaning next Monday or Tuesday at the earliest... I will take a micrometer to it. The real question is user preference. The throttle response in our car is different in different modes. In dynamic the pedal travels a little less in the first 1/4th throttle to accelerate at a faster rate vs comfort mode. I believe I would want the pedal to be a few millimeters over the brake pedal because my brakes feel qooshie as well. Some people with different BBK setups may even like it where it is with an aftermarket pedal that kicks out. I think the ideal market for the spacer would be designed around stock brake pedal response with fresh fluid and good lines.
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sh!tmagnet
06-21-2015, 11:17 AM
I am also without my car. It is in the shop, almost 50 days now... my clutch assembly will arive likely by Thursday, meaning next Monday or Tuesday at the earliest... I will take a micrometer to it. The real question is user preference. The throttle response in our car is different in different modes. In dynamic the pedal travels a little less in the first 1/4th throttle to accelerate at a faster rate vs comfort mode. I believe I would want the pedal to be a few millimeters over the brake pedal because my brakes feel qooshie as well. Some people with different BBK setups may even like it where it is with an aftermarket pedal that kicks out. I think the ideal market for the spacer would be designed around stock brake pedal response with fresh fluid and good lines.
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Ouch, 50 days! That hurts. So was it a problem with the EC clutch kit or something else(sorry don't mean to derail the thread).
OldSport//
06-21-2015, 11:20 AM
I agree that having shims to try out is a good idea, I just don't know what I want to shim yet. I did have a race car driver try heel toe in my car and he thought the brake should come up a bit, for the factory pedals though. He also brakes like a race car driver. I'll mention shims to Brian when I call him tomorrow. Also, I think I may have clogged up his email with pedal pics so your emails to him today may not be going through.
Chandler
06-21-2015, 11:48 AM
Ouch, 50 days! That hurts. So was it a problem with the EC clutch kit or something else(sorry don't mean to derail the thread).
The shop did not install it properly the first time. The pressure plate pivot points adjuted, then the face of the disk would not fully contact the flywheell under load. I sent it off to eurocode to inspect for wear and to adjust the pivot points/ reinstall them. The clutch has been taken out three times now. I'm not very happy about it.
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sh!tmagnet
06-21-2015, 11:58 AM
The shop did not install it properly the first time. The pressure plate pivot points adjuted, then the face of the disk would not fully contact the flywheell under load. I sent it off to eurocode to inspect for wear and to adjust the pivot points/ reinstall them. The clutch has been taken out three times now. I'm not very happy about it.
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Holy shit, so was it just poor install or was it fault parts as well? Hope 4th time is the charm for ya bud. [;)]
Chandler
06-21-2015, 02:12 PM
Holy shit, so was it just poor install or was it fault parts as well? Hope 4th time is the charm for ya bud. [;)]
Poor install. They claim a bolt backed out of the pressure plate, meaning they didn't torque it down properly. So the plate came up in a spot not allowing it to disengage. They took it apart, found the issue and reinstalled it. It started slipping underload because of the pivot points.
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OldSport//
06-22-2015, 07:34 AM
So I just talked with Brian and he has a few other projects he's working on but should get to this soon. I also mentioned the shims and he said he is happy to make them for a small cost but highly recommends just using flat washers. That makes sense to me and if you get some wide washers I imagine they would hold up just fine.
I'll keep everyone posted and take some pictures when I get my pedals installed in the coming weeks. In terms of time frame, I'm shooting to have these installed and tested out before my next track weekend on July 11-12th.
OldSport//
06-26-2015, 01:58 PM
I just wanted to provide an update. Brian asked me to do a few additional checks to make sure the mounting holes for the clutch and brake pedal will line up properly. I plan to do that tomorrow morning or early next week and then Brian will get to work on the pedal set. Getting closer.
OldSport//
07-09-2015, 05:39 AM
The pedals have arrived!! Thanks Brian for doing such a great job, fit and finish is excellent.
I'm planning to drop them off at a shop down the street from me to be anodized and hopefully will be installing them next week. Brian can have them anodized also, just a little more lead time on his end and I happened to have a shop that specializes in anodizing near my house.
Here are the pedals:
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/09/1a2810755f9df1f549aa69a7d5bcc3f1.jpg
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/09/fba529cc2e5a4658bb4638b2a054cc5d.jpg
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/09/23ac4b702dc9759749571901dd733c06.jpg
UberBrute
07-09-2015, 06:38 AM
wow these look great. How does one order these? I didn't see them on the SRP site yet.
OldSport//
07-09-2015, 06:39 AM
wow these look great. How does one order these? I didn't see them on the SRP site yet.
I would just give Brian a call. He may be waiting for me to install these before he sells more sets (apologies for the delay if so).
Chandler
07-09-2015, 07:28 AM
The pedals have arrived!! Thanks Brian for doing such a great job, fit and finish is excellent.
I'm planning to drop them off at a shop down the street from me to be anodized and hopefully will be installing them next week. Brian can have them anodized also, just a little more lead time on his end and I happened to have a shop that specializes in anodizing near my house.
I am looking forward to some installation photos. Are you intending to raise any pedals with flat washers?
OldSport//
07-09-2015, 02:31 PM
I am looking forward to some installation photos. Are you intending to raise any pedals with flat washers?
I actually want to try them level first and then start raising as needed. This is something that may be a little different for everyone depending on their intended use. I imagine when I'm practicing heel-toe on the streets for example, I am not pressing the brake anywhere near as hard as I would be at the track. A race car driver evaluated my stock setup and said I could actually benefit from raising the brake pedal, his braking style is to the floor short duration braking though. I'm not quite there yet, though I do brake fairly late and hard. I may just have to experiment a bit to find out what I like. I'll let you know where I end up.
Chandler
07-10-2015, 05:26 AM
I actually want to try them level first and then start raising as needed. This is something that may be a little different for everyone depending on their intended use. I imagine when I'm practicing heel-toe on the streets for example, I am not pressing the brake anywhere near as hard as I would be at the track. A race car driver evaluated my stock setup and said I could actually benefit from raising the brake pedal, his braking style is to the floor short duration braking though. I'm not quite there yet, though I do brake fairly late and hard. I may just have to experiment a bit to find out what I like. I'll let you know where I end up.
Awesome. That makes a lot of sense.
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The pedals have arrived!! Thanks Brian for doing such a great job, fit and finish is excellent.
I'm planning to drop them off at a shop down the street from me to be anodized and hopefully will be installing them next week. Brian can have them anodized also, just a little more lead time on his end and I happened to have a shop that specializes in anodizing near my house.
Here are the pedals:
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/09/1a2810755f9df1f549aa69a7d5bcc3f1.jpg
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/09/fba529cc2e5a4658bb4638b2a054cc5d.jpg
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/09/23ac4b702dc9759749571901dd733c06.jpg
They look great. Did you go with SRP standard width or Brian made you even wider gas pedal? BTW. Thanks for all your work to make and send the templates to SRP. Let us know about the installation.
OldSport//
07-13-2015, 07:26 AM
Pedals just dropped off with anodizer, going with a hard black finish and they should be ready Thursday morning.
OldSport//
07-13-2015, 07:27 AM
They look great. Did you go with SRP standard width or Brian made you even wider gas pedal? BTW. Thanks for all your work to make and send the templates to SRP. Let us know about the installation.
You're very welcome! I did go with wider than standard in an attempt to make the pedals more ideal for side blipping. Brian can hook you up with either width though.
OldSport//
07-16-2015, 08:00 AM
I just picked up the pedals and they look fantastic! Installing this weekend most likely.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/16/137aa1fa0945b95d62341ac977509d91.jpg
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sweylo
07-16-2015, 08:31 AM
Wow, those look fantastic. Can't wait for the road test report.
Let me know if you had any problems with the installation. I talked to Brian yesterday and he said your templates were very well done. I will just wait to see if the fitment is fine and going to order my set. I am waiting for Brian to sent me outlines of standard and wide (yours) gas pedals to check which one would work better for me. please post your review after the install.[:D]
OldSport//
07-18-2015, 10:44 AM
Will do for sure and sorry for the delay. I plan to install them tomorrow morning and will take some pictures to confirm the fitment is right. The main thing is that the screw holes are in convenient locations.
OldSport//
07-19-2015, 01:31 PM
Pedals are in! Going to do a brief write-up on the install here.
First, if you want the screw heads to match your pedals, paint them! (I did this later and then had to wait a bit for them to dry).
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/19/fb124798b14cee346300eb65d17362d5.jpg
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OldSport//
07-19-2015, 01:34 PM
Pull the old pedals off (tips on how to do this earlier in this thread).
Then use painters tape or masking tape as a marking surface:
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http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/19/a86302a2e175b4692d798ce8cef67abc.jpg
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OldSport//
07-19-2015, 01:36 PM
I screwed up a little on the clutch pedal, measure twice drill once!! I ended up having to widen the upper right hole and the pedal is a bit crooked compared to the brake pedal. Close enough though.
Test fitting:
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/19/10d736eab4f15c005074b126b4abde01.jpg
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/19/c5b6dc1ab85ee553c393f1731e85a7b0.jpg
OldSport//
07-19-2015, 01:40 PM
Then I marked and drilled the gas pedal:
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/19/bf321e0b1534eec7c77717495ef010df.jpg
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/19/c0f740da53b850d25a7c04f98233104e.jpg
Remove the white label under the clutch pedal. Also, I needed a wider washer than Brian included for the center brake pedal bolt, I'll point him to this thread so he can see what I did. Got a little creative attaching the brake pedal and pre-attached everything before inserting (see below pictures):
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/19/67b8ae6e2f525fb25a9fef75b94a0861.jpg
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OldSport//
07-19-2015, 01:42 PM
Start attaching the pedals!!
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/19/5ba6c1721c7b5cfa202a134fc4367325.jpg
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OldSport//
07-19-2015, 01:43 PM
Pedals in!
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/19/35855171b49e06caa0c5e787d120d42b.jpg
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/19/5a6bcd3c2d186df16b737c926a6dec8d.jpg
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OldSport//
07-19-2015, 01:45 PM
Now off for a test drive.
I am glad everything went well with the installation. How do you like your wider gas pedal? This is the only thing I have to figure out. I have to decide between the standard SRP width and the one you designed. What shoe size do you wear. Thanks for nice pictures.
OldSport//
07-20-2015, 06:56 AM
So the test drive went well and I can easily heel toe even in narrow track shoes now, success!! Regarding the wider pedal, I am still uncertain if it was the right call. I think part of that is that I still need to get used to the new pedals and where they are at. A few times I went to brake and the right side of my foot also pushed on the accelerator. I really think that is just muscle memory but perhaps a slightly narrower pedal would avoid this. It may take me a few weeks of driving until I reach a conclusion. If I end up wanting a narrower pedal then I'll just order another gas pedal. This setup does work though and I think I'll end up sticking with it. I wear a size 11 driving shoe and a size 11.5 sneaker. Will drive to work with my sneakers tomorrow and see how it does with those, they're a bit wider and what I've been wearing at the track. Probably switching to my track shoes for the track going forward though.
Brother Owl
07-20-2015, 01:59 PM
So the test drive went well and I can easily heel toe even in narrow track shoes now, success!! Regarding the wider pedal, I am still uncertain if it was the right call. I think part of that is that I still need to get used to the new pedals and where they are at. A few times I went to brake and the right side of my foot also pushed on the accelerator. I really think that is just muscle memory but perhaps a slightly narrower pedal would avoid this. It may take me a few weeks of driving until I reach a conclusion. If I end up wanting a narrower pedal then I'll just order another gas pedal. This setup does work though and I think I'll end up sticking with it. I wear a size 11 driving shoe and a size 11.5 sneaker. Will drive to work with my sneakers tomorrow and see how it does with those, they're a bit wider and what I've been wearing at the track. Probably switching to my track shoes for the track going forward though.
Thanks oldsport! Looks good, but I wear size 13 wide and worried about accidental pedal contact. iirc you asked them to make the gas pedal extra wide - wonder if they would fab something halfway inbetween...
OldSport//
07-21-2015, 06:58 AM
Brian mentioned that he could easily modify the gas pedal width, so I'm sure he could accommodate your request. Please share pics if you go that route, will help me and others decide what's best.
I think I will go with a standard SRP gas pedal width which is wider than our stock gas pedal. If I need a wider one I will figure out how much wider from there. I am gong to place my order tonight. Thanks for all the pictures.
Brother Owl
07-22-2015, 03:00 PM
I think I will go with a standard SRP gas pedal width which is wider than our stock gas pedal. If I need a wider one I will figure out how much wider from there. I am gong to place my order tonight. Thanks for all the pictures.
Post some pics of the standard SRPs when you get them installed
So I got an email from Brian with outlines of clutch, brake and gas pedals. I cut a cardboard templates and attached them to my pedals to see how it will look like and feel. I tried the set up and I liked it. It turned out that a gas pedal template I received was a wider one ( OldSport's design). It worked for me so I am going with the wider one.
BTW. Even Brian advised me to go with OldSport's wider pedal. If I do not like it I can always make it narrower.[:D]
OldSport//
08-19-2015, 12:04 PM
My pedals are now for sale if anyone is interested. Pretty sure they will only fit B8.5 btw.
My S4 Part Out Thread (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/664508-2014-S4-**Part-Out**)
iviegatron
08-20-2015, 01:47 AM
My pedals are now for sale if anyone is interested. Pretty sure they will only fit B8.5 btw.
My S4 Part Out Thread (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/664508-2014-S4-**Part-Out**)
Please PM price.