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champion
02-02-2015, 04:13 PM
I see some cheap connecting rods on ebay and on cx racing site. Anyone have any experience with these? I wonder since they are so cheap that they might fail even though they are supposedly made from 4340 forgings.

redline380
02-02-2015, 04:18 PM
10k miles on no name rods with 320awhp and 280awtq. Still fine

Knocking on wood like a mudderfucca right now lol

smittyzz
02-02-2015, 04:28 PM
10k miles on no name rods with 320awhp and 280awtq. Still fine

Knocking on wood like a mudderfucca right now lol
I think China's upping there game a little imo

Seerlah
02-02-2015, 04:34 PM
If you want name brand for cheap, go with Eagle. But most likely they are all the same rods from the same foundry. It's these companies (ie Integrated Engineering, Scat, etc) that put in the quality control once they receive them before re-branding and reselling. That quality control can be confirming weight differences, making +/- 1 gram of each others (in sets of 4), and making sure bores or crank journal and wristpins to be correct.

adam044
02-02-2015, 04:57 PM
CX Racing would be the only cheap parts I would even consider. Worth a shot.

GTRchop88
02-02-2015, 06:33 PM
44k miles on my eagle rods.[drive]

redline380
02-02-2015, 06:40 PM
But most likely they are all the same rods from the same foundry.

I honestly think this is accurate, but I am willing to go deeper. I think EVERY rod is made at the same factory. The treatment they get from there on out is what makes them different.

I would love for IE to come on here and tell me I am wrong. It would make their product more valuable in my eyes. But alas, cost is very important.

GrapeBandit
02-02-2015, 08:32 PM
haa, i may be looking into these since i had some recent carnage. id probably choose eagle or scat over generic ebay ones though, just for a piece of mind. or maybe not..lol

redline380
02-02-2015, 08:36 PM
haa, i may be looking into these since i had some recent carnage. id probably choose eagle or scat over generic ebay ones though, just for a piece of mind. or maybe not..lol

This is the set I got. Only paid $280 though when they had them on overstock

http://www.importperformanceparts.net/imports/togarods-euroaudi.html

GrapeBandit
02-02-2015, 08:50 PM
This is the set I got. Only paid $280 though when they had them on overstock

http://www.importperformanceparts.net/imports/togarods-euroaudi.html

not a bad deal for 280. they look like all the other h beam rods.

redline380
02-02-2015, 08:51 PM
not a bad deal for 280. they look like all the other h beam rods.

Exactly why I think rods are just one big conspiracy. Kind of. But not really. But somewhat.

GrapeBandit
02-02-2015, 08:55 PM
Exactly why I think rods are just one big conspiracy. Kind of. But not really. But somewhat.
they are from the same foundry in china. no conspiracy

mykeg6
02-02-2015, 09:57 PM
I am using Eagles. No issues for years.

Eagles are actually very popular for other car models as well.

Avant Nate
02-03-2015, 10:52 AM
also keep an eye on vortex classified. Paid 300 for new uninstalled scat rods.

rodgertherabit
02-03-2015, 06:03 PM
IE told me the forgings are from overseas, the machining, QC, and Guarantee is completed stateside.

Im gonna install IE rifle drilled drop ins for my b5 as I did my mk4. Great product, even better support. Picked em up on black friday tho so I got a deal.[wrench]

redline380
02-03-2015, 06:04 PM
IE told me the forgings are from overseas, the machining, QC, and Guarantee is completed stateside.


I believe that. But it doesn't detract from the fact they all come from the same factory.

rodgertherabit
02-03-2015, 06:11 PM
They are more than likely the same forgings. If you want to pay over a G for rods then they can be made in the USA till then, you are buying Chinese rods regardless. (pretty much what IE told me haha)

redline380
02-03-2015, 06:17 PM
They are more than likely the same forgings. If you want to pay over a G for rods then they can be made in the USA till then, you are buying Chinese rods regardless. (pretty much what IE told me haha)

not exactly true. you can get pauter rods around $700

rodgertherabit
02-03-2015, 06:19 PM
still out of my budget. Dont care. Chinese rods are going in again [:p]

redline380
02-03-2015, 06:23 PM
might as well get these straight from asia then

http://www.ebay.com/itm/I-beam-Connecting-Rods-Audi-VW-Volkswagen-Jetta-Golf-A4-1-8T-Engines-/231447568473?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3AVolkswagen&hash=item35e359a059&vxp=mtr

ray4624
02-03-2015, 06:32 PM
no bolts and 50 for shipping...cheaper going with a set of SCATs

rodgertherabit
02-03-2015, 08:16 PM
^lol ray's got it. I also opted for the rifle drilling.

Call me a IE fanboy when it comes to rods. I dont see the point going elsewhere. I konw my $$ was well spent! Thanks again Cassidy[cool]

thedownwardsprl
02-04-2015, 05:55 PM
I've used a cx turbo and lasted a week ....smokey

redline380
02-04-2015, 06:17 PM
I've used a cx turbo and lasted a week ....smokey

Chinese turbos are well known to be junk. It seems the rods all come from the same factory, so who knows? Mine have lasted so far.

thedownwardsprl
02-04-2015, 06:19 PM
Still my first time with the company was creep eek....learned that way lol

GrapeBandit
02-04-2015, 07:16 PM
Chinese turbos are well known to be junk. It seems the rods all come from the same factory, so who knows? Mine have lasted so far.
ypu said 290 for your chinese rods? did it come with rod bolts? im about to scoop up scat h-beamsfor 322 shipped with arp 2000 bolts

ray4624
02-04-2015, 07:18 PM
^that sounds appealing

redline380
02-04-2015, 07:22 PM
ypu said 290 for your chinese rods? did it come with rod bolts? im about to scoop up eagles for for 322 shipped with arp 2000 bolts

Yeah, they came with ARP hardware

GrapeBandit
02-04-2015, 07:23 PM
^that sounds appealingyup, BNIB. also going to pick up supertech pistons as soon as I can decide if I want to build a 20/20 or build on my stock stroke.

even if you get the cheap Chinese rods for like 200, they dont come with arp bolts. add in arp bolts thats another 115-120. might as well spend a few extra dollars and get something tried and proven.


Yeah, they came with ARP hardware
you got a good deal then

redline380
02-04-2015, 07:33 PM
you got a good deal then

Here's the link again. Seriously, call them up and bitch about the price. Its at $340 right now. Make up a story and tell them you can get them for $280 somewhere else. If they ask where, say you cant remember. Just make something up. I bet they meet it

http://www.importperformanceparts.net/imports/togarods-euroaudi.html

GrapeBandit
02-04-2015, 07:37 PM
Here's the link again. Seriously, call them up and bitch about the price. Its at $340 right now. Make up a story and tell them you can get them for $280 somewhere else. If they ask where, say you cant remember. Just make something up. I bet they meet it

http://www.importperformanceparts.net/imports/togarods-euroaudi.html
they will say bullshitting if I say 280 but I cant remember where...lol..they will probably say get them from that place then lol

redline380
02-04-2015, 07:38 PM
they will say bullshitting if I say 280 but I cant remember where...lol..they will probably say get them from that place then lol

That place will seriously work with you. I've done it.

GrapeBandit
02-04-2015, 07:44 PM
That place will seriously work with you. I've done it.
yours are probably identical to ie, eagle , and scat. no?

redline380
02-04-2015, 07:53 PM
yours are probably identical to ie, eagle , and scat. no?

As far as I can tell, absolutely. They look identical

ray4624
02-04-2015, 08:56 PM
grape, ask them if they will to a deal if you buy 2 sets.
I would be in for anything sub 300.

I was supposed to get NIB Ie rods for 300 and the dude just stopped responding to me :(

GrapeBandit
02-04-2015, 09:31 PM
grape, ask them if they will to a deal if you buy 2 sets.
I would be in for anything sub 300.

I was supposed to get NIB Ie rods for 300 and the dude just stopped responding to me :(
ill call them tomorrow and see. worst they can say is no. i guess its worth a shot

ray4624
02-04-2015, 11:32 PM
Cool let me know. Im serious haha I have to build t engine before I blow it up.


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GrapeBandit
02-05-2015, 10:19 AM
They said they dont carry the Toga rods anymore. I found the Scats on their site for $312.99+shipping though.

redline380
02-05-2015, 10:30 AM
They said they dont carry the Toga rods anymore. I found the Scats on their site for $312.99+shipping though.

Well there ya go. Sounds like a winner to me

GrapeBandit
02-05-2015, 10:41 AM
Well there ya go. Sounds like a winner to me

im gonna wait for them to get me a shipping quote, it doesnt factor in on tbeir site like most places. I can get them for $322 shipped from somewhere else. going to see which is cheaper. The other place has 3 sets left, so ill post the link after I find out which ones are cheaper. lol dont wanna post the link and then the 3 sets get gobbled up and me left with spending more money on the same set haha

redline380
02-05-2015, 10:45 AM
lol dont wanna post the link and then the 3 sets get gobbled up and me left with spending more money on the same set haha

I know how you feel. I just found a site with ridiculously low prices on refinished OEM wheels. I can get a set of Porsche twist for $700 shipped!

GrapeBandit
02-05-2015, 10:51 AM
I know how you feel. I just found a site with ridiculously low prices on refinished OEM wheels. I can get a set of Porsche twist for $700 shipped!
pretty cheap. actually real cheap. I was looking into some bbs style 5s and corbeau seats until my fkn crank gear keyway sheared off last week[evilmad]

GrapeBandit
02-05-2015, 01:35 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111267322038?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
here. Titan motorsports. I was going tk get these, but since im in state resident, they tack on like another $25. I can get them cheaper from somewhere else enjoy out of staters! ! ! lol

ray4624
02-05-2015, 02:02 PM
added to my watch list [up]

GrapeBandit
02-05-2015, 09:37 PM
added to my watch list [up]
added[confused] thought you were supposed to hit the BUY IT NOW button? lol
i ordered my scats tonight, along with a few other little goodies. when things break, i get the modding bug. it happened last time when my timing belt broke, it led to a 2L stroker w/gt35r lol

Seerlah
02-05-2015, 10:05 PM
Might as well stroker now [cool]

Start looking for deals on parts.

GrapeBandit
02-05-2015, 10:39 PM
Might as well stroker now [cool]

Start looking for deals on parts.
already one step ahead[up]

a few hours ago i paid for a forged 92.8mm crank(ABA) and 83.5mm pistons too[evilsmile]

ray4624
02-05-2015, 11:02 PM
Weren't you just saying how you are over going fast :)


And I'm debating what to buy first, those rods (was supposed to wait for taxes) or a scope for my ar15 that seems to be a good deal.

I don't need to wait for taxes. I just don't like large drops in my funds at once haha


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GrapeBandit
02-05-2015, 11:20 PM
Weren't you just saying how you are over going fast :)
i am, but my pistons are trashed so i needed new ones. the engine is completely apart, im not throwing stock rods back in, and for an extra $135 for the crank and $75 to machine the intermediate shaft down its worth it to go from 1781cc's to 2033cc's. I sure as hell wasnt going to buy a used engine and throw it in. im anal with my car lol. ill have all fresh stuff in my engine now, its a complete overhaul.

xdewaynex
02-06-2015, 05:30 AM
when things break, i get the modding bug. it happened last time when my timing belt broke, it led to a 2L stroker w/gt35r lol

An oil cooler gasket getting blown out is what led to my Frankenturbo install 5yrs ago, lol. Wish I had the extra cash to pick up some rods, but Id want to get a spare block first and build it on the side.

GrapeBandit
02-06-2015, 08:20 AM
An oil cooler gasket getting blown out is what led to my Frankenturbo install 5yrs ago, lol. Wish I had the extra cash to pick up some rods, but Id want to get a spare block first and build it on the side.
how does an oil cooler gasket lead to a FT build? haha

xdewaynex
02-06-2015, 09:16 AM
It just did, haha. It was actually around this same time 5yrs ago I was coming home from work, low oil light came on and when I parked the car all I saw was oil, even the trail down my driveway. I had extra money and since I was going to have to change it out I just said what the hell and ordered the FT kit, tune and injectors all at the same time.