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blacka41point8t
09-10-2005, 02:48 PM
Im interested in racing this kid at my school who has a 2000 Vw gti. He is all stock except his stupid blow off valve that he thinks is so cool that he goes around the parking lot making sure people hear him. I really want to show him up. My mods are in the sig. He is stock besides the bov. Both are manuals. Any idea who would win? I dont want to get my ass walked on.

ColumbiaDeath
09-10-2005, 02:54 PM
Magazine racing is for ricers.

Race him and find out.

blacka41point8t
09-10-2005, 03:01 PM
I will race him But I dont know really anything about gti's. I just dont want to loose by a landslide by talking all this shit to him then him walking all over me. Whats their hp and torque? awd or fwd?

Skippster86
09-10-2005, 03:07 PM
if you are a decent driver, you will take him from the launch, just dont bog out.

Neo1130
09-10-2005, 03:12 PM
I vote him... Just cause he is lighter and has a BOV. [hail]

ColumbiaDeath
09-10-2005, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by blacka41point8t
I will race him But I dont know really anything about gti's. I just dont want to loose by a landslide by talking all this shit to him then him walking all over me. Whats their hp and torque? awd or fwd?

Then don't talk shit.

Whats the point of racing if you do all kinds of research to figure out if you can beat him for sure?

Heres the probable outcome:

You'll win the race, kid still thinks hes a badass in his car. Racing him and winning in your Audi will have no effect on his attitude.

AudiGuy666
09-10-2005, 03:24 PM
Just smoke his ass ..

blacka41point8t
09-10-2005, 03:47 PM
sounds good. I guess its all or nothing right? Think a launch or from a roll would be better?

ColumbiaDeath
09-10-2005, 04:02 PM
Launch. You'll have the adavantage if you can drive.

blacka41point8t
09-10-2005, 04:10 PM
Thanks guys.

A4Rob
09-10-2005, 04:13 PM
Trever, just race him from a stop. If he is fast his problem will be wheelspin. You will not have that problem.

jent
09-10-2005, 04:35 PM
yea, you should be able to take him....I would much rather have AWD than have his lighter car. Just don't be an idiot on the launch.

RedRocket
09-10-2005, 05:40 PM
Don't forget to spool up the turbo before you launch. In case you haven't already figured that out yet:

1. While in neutral give it a couple shots of gas to hit the revs at 6000.

2. When the RMPs drop down to about 2ish begin to engage the clutch as you normally would.

This at least gets the turbines spinning and reduces that bog.

Now put him in his place and tell us when you're done.

P.S. is your car runing well?

HotSauce
09-10-2005, 06:03 PM
Trever, don't try, you'll get shown up.

I know who you're talking about, and it's APR chipped. He also just got Kerber exhaust. He's lighter, has less rotating mass etc.

You will get toasted, chief.

Skippster86
09-10-2005, 06:10 PM
^^Damn...um, dont race him then. ^^

Skippster86
09-10-2005, 06:11 PM
I vote hot sauce races him. [up]

Rosati
09-10-2005, 07:02 PM
**** it just race him

then after that tell him


I have an audi. you have a "peoples car"

Rosati
09-10-2005, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by RedRocket
Don't forget to spool up the turbo before you launch. In case you haven't already figured that out yet:

1. While in neutral give it a couple shots of gas to hit the revs at 6000.

2. When the RMPs drop down to about 2ish begin to engage the clutch as you normally would.

This at least gets the turbines spinning and reduces that bog.

Now put him in his place and tell us when you're done.

P.S. is your car runing well?


?? dont get step number 2. the timing would have to be absolutely perfect if going from a flagger.



[confused]

blacka41point8t
09-10-2005, 07:19 PM
is he really chipped? thats not what tommy said.

RedRocket
09-10-2005, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by Rosati
?? dont get step number 2. the timing would have to be absolutely perfect if going from a flagger.



[confused]

What do you mean you don't get step 2? Timing would have to be perfect? He is racing, timing is everything.

Whatever her does, he's got to get that turbo spooling up.

If that GTI is chipped though, I would not expect him to win.

Rosati
09-10-2005, 07:55 PM
you want him to time the rev drop?

rev up to 6k and catch it at 2? then launch?

he can use his clutch to spool the turbo

2k isnt that much of a strain for a few seconds

SeanF
09-10-2005, 08:54 PM
guys, i dont see how that will help much, just catch the clutch right, and not too fast, it only takes like a 1/4 second to spool a k03

DRA4
09-10-2005, 09:26 PM
You have an A4 1.8T and you don't know the specs on a GTI 1.8T too, first learn about these cars before you race him.

Rosati
09-10-2005, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by 1.8.se7en
guys, i dont see how that will help much, just catch the clutch right, and not too fast, it only takes like a 1/4 second to spool a k03

2nd

and 2nd Dra4 as well.


man im bored

in the house saturday night gotta get off the 'zine. later guys

ColumbiaDeath
09-10-2005, 09:40 PM
Flagger?

How about a 3 honk, chasing is racing.

A4Rob
09-10-2005, 10:31 PM
Tell him if he wants to race a 1.8T he should give me a call :-)

A4Rob
09-10-2005, 10:33 PM
I mean, if he wants to get FVcked up by a 1.8T give me a call.









Street racing rules!!!
FREE MONEY!

dirtjumper577
09-10-2005, 10:36 PM
hey man i have driven both cars and the 1.8t gti has about 175 hp stock under the hood i think? around there but it is still a very quick car, if your car was stock i pretty sure he would take you but whatever you have some ups... race from a stop just dont do something dumn. k bye
p.s. tell us who wins

Andrew A4
09-10-2005, 11:28 PM
He is not that much lighter than you. The race will mostly come down to who is the better driver. I used to race my buddies GTI before he put in his GT28RS custom kit and many times i would take him, and we had similar mods. My chip was definately more aggressive than his though, and I still say i'm the better driver regardless of the beast he is driving now. (300+whp WRX)

BranCKY3
09-10-2005, 11:49 PM
It will be very close. If you can launch, you will take him. If you go from a roll or take the race from a stop up to like 80, prepare to get walked on.

BadBora
09-11-2005, 07:48 AM
Originally posted by A4Rob
Tell him if he wants to race a 1.8T he should give me a call :-)
I have my Jetta that i would love to race another awd 1.8t. But back to what you guys are saying. I have a jetta and with just a intake i dyno at 173hp and 183tq but that was in a winter day. Also my fiance audi adn i race all the time from a dig and a roll it turns out about 2 car lengths from the dig and 3-4 from a roll so watch out. I would say get a chip and tell him your STOCK[;)]


Ps i would love to race your audi in my Jetta <---- Even tho its a homo car/proplrs car/ a girl car LOL

I have many more mods now so audis dont worrie me only s4s. Going to the track today so hopfuly i hit 13 and hope it wasent a fluke last time.

TurbousMaximus
09-11-2005, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by BadBora

I have many more mods now so audis dont worrie me only s4s.

sorry to break it to you but, an s4 is an audi lol. maybe you should say a4's dont worry you, even thou i know plenty of a4's that will make it look like your jettas standing still.

bitterchild
09-11-2005, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by RedRocket
Don't forget to spool up the turbo before you launch. In case you haven't already figured that out yet:

1. While in neutral give it a couple shots of gas to hit the revs at 6000.

2. When the RMPs drop down to about 2ish begin to engage the clutch as you normally would.

This at least gets the turbines spinning and reduces that bog.

Now put him in his place and tell us when you're done.

P.S. is your car runing well?
what are you smoking?

drlandry00
09-11-2005, 11:57 AM
just square up with him an knock him in his mouth. that should keep him quiet.. then get some mods meanwhile and then race him.. GIDDY UP..

A4Rob
09-11-2005, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by BadBora
I have my Jetta that i would love to race another awd 1.8t. But back to what you guys are saying. I have a jetta and with just a intake i dyno at 173hp and 183tq but that was in a winter day. Also my fiance audi adn i race all the time from a dig and a roll it turns out about 2 car lengths from the dig and 3-4 from a roll so watch out. I would say get a chip and tell him your STOCK[;)]


Ps i would love to race your audi in my Jetta <---- Even tho its a homo car/proplrs car/ a girl car LOL

I have many more mods now so audis dont worrie me only s4s. Going to the track today so hopfuly i hit 13 and hope it wasent a fluke last time.

Congrats man. 173 HP[rolleyes]

blacka41point8t
09-11-2005, 05:05 PM
i need a k04 lol

A4Rob
09-11-2005, 05:07 PM
Or my setup. Assuming you are still interested in it...

AudiGuy666
09-11-2005, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by BadBora
I have my Jetta that i would love to race another awd 1.8t. But back to what you guys are saying. I have a jetta and with just a intake i dyno at 173hp and 183tq but that was in a winter day. Also my fiance audi adn i race all the time from a dig and a roll it turns out about 2 car lengths from the dig and 3-4 from a roll so watch out. I would say get a chip and tell him your STOCK[;)]


Ps i would love to race your audi in my Jetta <---- Even tho its a homo car/proplrs car/ a girl car LOL

I have many more mods now so audis dont worrie me only s4s. Going to the track today so hopfuly i hit 13 and hope it wasent a fluke last time.


Ohh wow.
there are planty of A4's that would SMOKE your jetta! 173 WHP ? thats nothing special. Sounds like a stock vr6!

rendyx
09-11-2005, 05:17 PM
To help you understand how hard it is to predict who would win...

I raced my buddy's H22a swapped Prelude a while ago, from a stop. He won.

I raced him again the next day, same road, and I won.

Not much changed in there to our cars, but a lot of other crap will affect you (launch, shifting, ambient temp, intake air temp, etc).

Just race him, you'll prolly both have a lot more respect for each other afterwards [:)]

BadBora
09-11-2005, 05:18 PM
Right now i dyno at 216hp 257tq now and yes I meant A4s not audi sorry about that. I am also sorry for saying I can beat all A4s I know not all but since i met some at the track they beat me on the 60 ft but thats it. I went to the track today and ran a 13.933
I know its nothing to brag about but its better than most. I didnt mean to offend once again I like the a4 just to much money to get the thing going!!!

EVIL-AUDI
09-11-2005, 05:33 PM
Are you really even chipped? You were asking before what chip to buy. BTW you'd lose in that race

MKGIY
09-11-2005, 05:39 PM
I would win the race with my GTI and so will he.

Mike

blacka41point8t
09-11-2005, 05:44 PM
yes rob I'm still interested in your t28 kit!!!!!!

C280 jr
09-11-2005, 05:55 PM
he will lose, stock GTI 2000 only has 150hp. and 160ft.tq. that sucks ass, a chipped audi will whoop it, and so whill my jetta

Elvir

EVIL-AUDI
09-11-2005, 06:12 PM
A 99 A4 only has 150 HP aswell. Since thi thread I'm pretty sure he isn't even chipped.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=63189

He's gonna lose

C280 jr
09-11-2005, 06:16 PM
well i read his siggy like he said and it says he has apr chip, if he does he will smoke him, if he does not have the chip he will lose

Elvir

EVIL-AUDI
09-11-2005, 06:19 PM
Yeah I saw his sig too then he posted saying he doesn't even have a chip yet.

C280 jr
09-11-2005, 06:39 PM
then he is gonna get his ass whooped, but in same time that GTI dude will mess up his car with the unnecessary BOV, especially if he had it for a longer period of time

Elvir

alen
09-11-2005, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by C280 jr
then he is gonna get his ass whooped, but in same time that GTI dude will mess up his car with the unnecessary BOV, especially if he had it for a longer period of time

Elvir

shouldn't you be studying dynamics bish? no 'zine for you on sunday night [cool]

blacka41point8t
09-11-2005, 07:45 PM
i sent my ecu yesterday to ecs who will put in my apr chip. so yes I consider myself chipped.

Skippster86
09-11-2005, 07:53 PM
I suggest you drive it around to get a feel for the chip before racing him. Or else youll just glaze your clutch or bog out and look like a fool.

C280 jr
09-11-2005, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by alen
shouldn't you be studying dynamics bish? no 'zine for you on sunday night [cool] yes daddy!

Elvir

RedRocket
09-11-2005, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by Rosati
same thing im sayin bitter.

im still waiting for this response.


So are you chipped or not kid!



What kind of a responce are you waiting for?

You said, "am I smoking?"

Why don't you use the keyboard to type your thought/comments on what doesn't make sense about what I stated and I can respond to that.

Rosati
09-11-2005, 09:31 PM
forget it rocket. we already covered it . sorry.

i deleted the post.

shepherd
09-12-2005, 06:17 AM
This thread is boring....but I'm still reading it, Damn!

RedRocket
09-12-2005, 07:12 AM
Originally posted by Rosati
forget it rocket. we already covered it . sorry.

i deleted the post.

Well that's ok, I was just wondering if I was wrong about all that. Seems to do the job fine with me, did you ever try it?

Rosati
09-12-2005, 08:18 AM
just think its too complicated

as someone said, it doesnt take much to spool the ko3 so he should be fine using his clutch (aka burning it) for a few seconds before the launch.

RedRocket
09-12-2005, 08:25 AM
Ya I know what you're saying the K03 is not that hard to spool right.....

But have you ever tried to launch like that? Try it if you have the 1.8, I'm just recommending.

Thanks for your response. [:)]

JMG
09-12-2005, 10:09 AM
If he is chipped and you both know how to launch, you will lose.

nizmosx
09-12-2005, 10:24 AM
my girl friend just bought a manual 2005 gti and its slow..... its got some power but it seems really slow. The gti feels quick in the lower rpms and just dies off fast. If it was chipped its a different story but if he is stock you will take him with your chip... The gti looses breath fast, and im speaking from experience being i have a modded a4 and my gf has a stock gti.

Audimarc
09-12-2005, 01:17 PM
Go out and buy a Cuda. Then you'll freaking kill him regardless of what nonsense he may or may not have under the hood.

http://www.telusplanet.net/public/aarcuda/images/cuda-1l.jpg

duffman1101
09-12-2005, 02:01 PM
lol.. great advice

MR VTEC
09-12-2005, 02:23 PM
i think red rocket is talking about automatics... [rolleyes]

C280 jr
09-18-2005, 01:52 PM
So, did you smoke him, or did you get smoked?

Elvir

pierce
09-18-2005, 01:59 PM
Yea, dub tee eff?

blacka41point8t
09-18-2005, 02:14 PM
havent raced yet. im in the process of doing the timing belt and all those goodies.

almaster666
09-18-2005, 04:48 PM
get a motorcyle, and youll smoke everyone, evem if you come accross a Ford GT or a Ferrari Enzo

AB18
09-18-2005, 05:41 PM
No he wont, ford gt with a 0 to 60 time of 3.6. Not alot of rockets on the road will do that. I have riddin alot i know this, bitter will chime in with alot more info then me about this, but i know lots of cars that will smoke alot of bikes. Ive seens s4s rape r6s and whatnot, cars like modded evos,s4s,m3s,stis,911turbos, all these cars can compete in the same field as alot of bikes.

bitterchild
09-18-2005, 06:02 PM
drag racing a bike is all rider. also top end bikes lose out. usually not within the quarter but if the car is powerful enough, yes.

offroader1006
09-18-2005, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by AB18
No he wont, ford gt with a 0 to 60 time of 3.6. Not alot of rockets on the road will do that.

pretty sure with the right rider a 600 should be able to pull that off, and most 1000's can do it a second quicker

almaster666
09-18-2005, 08:16 PM
600s can definetly beat a Ford GT, as most bikes are 3.0sec to 60... the right rider of course...
and then >1000ccs would smoke anything... as in 2.6-2.8 to 60

almaster666
09-18-2005, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by AB18
No he wont, ford gt with a 0 to 60 time of 3.6. Not alot of rockets on the road will do that. I have riddin alot i know this, bitter will chime in with alot more info then me about this, but i know lots of cars that will smoke alot of bikes. Ive seens s4s rape r6s and whatnot, cars like modded evos,s4s,m3s,stis,911turbos, all these cars can compete in the same field as alot of bikes.

a 300 hp car weighing 4000lbs. has a power to weight ratio of: 0.075 hp/lbs.

a 100 hp bike weighing 300 lbs has a power to weight ratio of: 0.3 hp/lbs.

and im not even talking about superbikes, like the Yamaha R1: top speed around 190 mph, 380 lbs, 180hp @ 12,500 rpm
0-60 in 2.5 sec...
find me one single car that'll keep up with that...
or to find a more modest bike:
the yamaha YZF600R:
1/4 mile in 11.2
0-60 in 3.3...
Ford GT, byebye

almaster666
09-18-2005, 08:34 PM
and im not even mentioning the price of a 600cc vs. that of a Ford GT

Rosati
09-18-2005, 10:31 PM
i hate when bikes **** with you on the road.

They forget how vulnerable they are

thas why i swerve a little when they **** around w/ me ;)


...nothin tooo dangerous for you bikers

Meddie600RR
09-18-2005, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by almaster666
a 300 hp car weighing 4000lbs. has a power to weight ratio of: 0.075 hp/lbs.

a 100 hp bike weighing 300 lbs has a power to weight ratio of: 0.3 hp/lbs.

and im not even talking about superbikes, like the Yamaha R1: top speed around 190 mph, 380 lbs, 180hp @ 12,500 rpm
0-60 in 2.5 sec...
find me one single car that'll keep up with that...
or to find a more modest bike:
the yamaha YZF600R:
1/4 mile in 11.2
0-60 in 3.3...
Ford GT, byebye

Hahaha, I like your info...180hp at the crank maybe, and no way in hell would an R1 hit 190 in any sort of stock trim...sorry.
And good luck getting an R1 0-60 in 2.5 seconds. Only a very few select riders can accomplish that. A realistic time would be mid to low 3's IF you were good. The regular street rider(majority of riders) probably couldn't do that.

Meddie600RR
09-18-2005, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by Rosati
i hate when bikes **** with you on the road.

They forget how vulnerable they are

thas why i swerve a little when they **** around w/ me ;)


...nothin tooo dangerous for you bikers

And you're an idiot for swerving, even if you might be kidding around, thats just plain stupid.

Rosati
09-18-2005, 11:14 PM
^^ thanks meddie

thats why i put it there so bikers know not to f. w/ cars like they do bc of idiots like me that will play back.

i like your a4 btw

BranCKY3
09-18-2005, 11:15 PM
You need to race this GTI.

My friend is getting his '05 5spd GTI 1.8t on tuesday... we'll see how it holds up against a k04. And then after I get it tuned for some more power I'll race him again. [:)]

almaster666
09-19-2005, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by Meddie600RR
Hahaha, I like your info...180hp at the crank maybe, and no way in hell would an R1 hit 190 in any sort of stock trim...sorry.
And good luck getting an R1 0-60 in 2.5 seconds. Only a very few select riders can accomplish that. A realistic time would be mid to low 3's IF you were good. The regular street rider(majority of riders) probably couldn't do that.

for the top speed: look it up on google...
im not making the damn numbers up.
might be 182mph, but definetly no lower.
and, sure, most riders can't accomplish 2.5, but the bike is capable of it
and low to mid 3sec, for the average rider, is still 1/2 a second faster than a Ford GT (3.6seconds to 60)...
a bike is faster than a car, i dont know if youve ever try to keep up with a bike, but youre not going to keep up, no matter the bike, even a 250cc unless you are in some kind of a supercar...

almaster666
09-19-2005, 12:30 AM
oh and by the way, Yamaha R1 is 11 yrs old... Bikes have gotten better and faster.
look up the Suzuki GSXR-1000 K5 for example...

almaster666
09-19-2005, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by Rosati
^^ thanks meddie

thats why i put it there so bikers know not to f. w/ cars like they do bc of idiots like me that will play back.

i like your a4 btw

theyre not f*ckin w/ you, they just passin you
youre the one gettin angry cos you cant keep up, man

Meddie600RR
09-19-2005, 11:48 AM
They didn't make R1's 11 years ago...they started in 98 with the R1 line..

But I dont want to fight with you cause were both riders (Im assuming you are) and it would be pointless.

I ride a Honda 954RR by the way...

almaster666
09-19-2005, 11:55 AM
^^^yes, i was actually thinking about the kawasaki ZX-9r (idunno why) which is 11 yrs old
my bad.
unfortunately, i dont have a bike...
ive ridden a couple of times and loved it
im thinking of getting sumthin, but i cant afford it and i need my car to haul stuff around in...

Audi-S4
10-15-2005, 09:12 PM
KEEP 6-5K RPM.
DONT DROP THE CLUTCH. Try before race to make some starts. You must feel when it doing his job. Almost at the end, if you have stock one.

In that case you will just fly away wrom the start. You better have Quattro on your dash panel.

Audi-S4
10-15-2005, 09:15 PM
Hey you have MODS, what r you scaring??? Just do it....

I raced with 325i + Dinan on it. And ofcourse I won on the 2 first gears. I had only chip at that time 97 1.8T Giac.

1.8tpower1627
10-15-2005, 09:39 PM
trevor, once you get it chiped ull be fine, you should smoke him.... just line them up and race.

lbs4
01-16-2010, 01:42 PM
i think he gti has the advantage over a a4 anyways without being chipped,. before my s4 i had an a4 and my brother just got a jetta 1.8t not gti and that thing would completely toast my old a4 and that car isnt chipped. i hada race with an old golf ,2.0 and i was in a 1.tq a4, that little shitbox still beat me, both from start and a rolling start, with enough room they will take it, the a4s stock are gutLESS

lbs4
01-16-2010, 01:51 PM
if your gonna chip it go with giac

keeganhartman
01-16-2010, 01:52 PM
5 years old[up]

Fukenfast
01-16-2010, 02:44 PM
5 years old[up]
haha, yeah he should be chipped by now

Coopa
01-16-2010, 05:01 PM
Back when rob was t28! If that dates it any. This thread is /

dangerous_dave
01-16-2010, 05:20 PM
This thread is dumb high school bullshit. Why don't you measure each others wangs while you're at it. A stock A4 is between 150 and 170 hp at the flywheel. A stock jetta is between 150 and 180 hp. The differences in both cars depends on if they have ko3 or ko3s turbos. The Audi will lose at the track due to the HUGE drivetrain loss due to quattro. If you are racing on the street you are a loser and it doesn't matter what you are driving. If he's chipped you lose by even more. This thread is dumb.

Polski
01-16-2010, 06:39 PM
How can you not know anything about gti's???
I guess you never discovered google lol.
To save you some brain usage ..vw are fwd,except for the 4motion passat, the 1.8t 2000 model is stock 150hp, chipped im guessing hes running like 180ish?
The whole point of a race is to find out who is a better shifter/driver.
My friend had a b16a integra (~160hp) manual and he almost had me while i had a 200hp 9-3 se auto rental.
You do have a chance to win, but i dont know how good of a driver you are...maybe go practice on empty, uninhabited streets first.

It's still kinda sad that you need all this info/advice just to race somebody, no offense intended, just my advice.

gl

Avant Nate
01-16-2010, 08:29 PM
I read this whole stupid thread to find out the results of the race and all I get is people not realizing that this is 5 years old and no payoff. I feel stupid.

b5power
01-16-2010, 10:13 PM
I read this whole stupid thread to find out the results of the race and all I get is people not realizing that this is 5 years old and no payoff. I feel stupid.

hahaha me too i read the 1st page then i saw the date went to the last page and still nothing...i wonder who won though? lol all well

PoormansA4
01-16-2010, 11:10 PM
another one back from the dead.

myb5quattro
01-17-2010, 05:41 AM
You have an A4 1.8T and you don't know the specs on a GTI 1.8T too, first learn about these cars before you race him.

THANK YOU. I couldn't believe he didn't know is gti was AWD or what..come on man, you can't be talking shit to him if you don't know anything about his car except make, model, and you don't like it. Plus shit talking is just annoying in general. This sounds like stupid high school drama and rumors about who's car has what.

dangerous_dave
01-17-2010, 07:02 AM
I guess the op finally graduated high school and realized racing is stupid.

Avant Nate
01-17-2010, 07:08 AM
He may have already graduated college and might be working on his masters its been so long.

Altech75
01-17-2010, 07:23 AM
just square up with him an knock him in his mouth. that should keep him quiet.. then get some mods meanwhile and then race him.. GIDDY UP..


This, who cares who would win in a race if you can beat his ass. Sounds like he needs it too.

flynnr
01-17-2010, 07:57 AM
How can you not know anything about gti's???
I guess you never discovered google lol.
To save you some brain usage ..vw are fwd,except for the 4motion passat, the 1.8t 2000 model is stock 150hp, chipped im guessing hes running like 180ish?
The whole point of a race is to find out who is a better shifter/driver.
My friend had a b16a integra (~160hp) manual and he almost had me while i had a 200hp 9-3 se auto rental.
You do have a chance to win, but i dont know how good of a driver you are...maybe go practice on empty, uninhabited streets first.

It's still kinda sad that you need all this info/advice just to race somebody, no offense intended, just my advice.

gl


ahhhhem r32? coulda been debadged

The*Fall*Guy
01-17-2010, 10:07 AM
This, who cares who would win in a race if you can beat his ass. Sounds like he needs it too.

5 year old thread dude[down]

Altech75
01-17-2010, 01:11 PM
5 year old thread dude[down]

I just woke up, give me a little slack.

Dillon
01-17-2010, 01:53 PM
Five years later and still discussing who would win the race. The gti guy probably has a baby's momma the two kids now and drives a mustang...

adr3naline fix
01-17-2010, 04:59 PM
edit....wow old thread

PoormansA4
01-17-2010, 05:28 PM
/thread please