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dwbunks
01-11-2015, 02:10 PM
So in the summer I bought a 98 2.8L (shoulda held out for a 1.8t I know...zzz) with ~200k km on it and appeared to have not much wrong with it. Even though its a 2.8 I'm pretty happy with the car and where it sits, it's treated me pretty well and nothing too serious has gone wrong with it, it's been a PITA at times but I forgive her. Although here I am months later wanting more power from the car and I realize that the 2.8 isn't the engine for that.


The question is would you guys recommend swapping in a 2.7t or v8 swap with the 4.2? [confused]
If anyone has experience with swapping either of these in any advice/concerns or problems you ran into would be nice.

Although if I were to find a low km 1.8t for the right price I might consider swapping that in.

GrapeBandit
01-11-2015, 02:15 PM
1.8t
/thread

Mirza.Ramovic
01-11-2015, 02:16 PM
Since you have the 30V engine, you could make a bit of power with a custom exhaust, air intake, and a chip. The 2.8's are more for show rather than speed/tuning. On the plus side, they are pretty reliable cars.

To be honest, you would be better off buying an Audi with the 2.7T/1.8T engine in it. V8 swap is possible, but takes a lot of work, and modifying to make sure the engine sits right in the car.

dwbunks
01-11-2015, 02:18 PM
1.8t
/thread

Hahaha I knew that comment was bound to come sooner or laterm, but I'm really interrested in one of the other two mentioned unless I get a rediculous deal on a 1.8t

dwbunks
01-11-2015, 02:49 PM
To be honest, you would be better off buying an Audi with the 2.7T/1.8T engine in it. V8 swap is possible, but takes a lot of work, and modifying to make sure the engine sits right in the car.

I agree with you if I were to go 1.8t but audis aren't exactly a dime a dozen here and the s4s get sold faster than someone posts their ad so finding a car with one in it (even if I went a6 lol) would take a while

GrapeBandit
01-11-2015, 02:58 PM
buy a 1.8t engine and wiring harness from a partout or off vortex

demonmk2
01-11-2015, 03:00 PM
or just buy a 2.7t and swap it in.

oops... never mind missed the 98 part.

LINDW4LL
01-11-2015, 03:03 PM
B5 S4 or 2.7T.

R490
01-11-2015, 03:27 PM
Do you have much experience with swaps, and how much is your budget about?

dwbunks
01-11-2015, 03:35 PM
Do you have much experience with swaps, and how much is your budget about?

I do have some knowledge on swapping, and I'm currently helping my mechanic friend swap a type R engine into his civic and he's going to return the favor with my car.
And funds are as permitting as they've been in a while so the budget isn't massive but it should be able to cover this project

GrapeBandit
01-11-2015, 03:41 PM
B5 S4 or 2.7T.
why? so he has to pull the engine every time he needs to replace a turbo or work on it? fuk that. 1.8t all the way

LINDW4LL
01-11-2015, 03:43 PM
why? so he has to pull the engine every time he needs to replace a turbo or work on it? fuk that. 1.8t all the way
Because turbos blow so often [emoji23]

Drop it in with a set of RS6 hybrids. Upgrade MAF housing, injectors, clutch and fuel pump.

Make 450whp. Easy.


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GrapeBandit
01-11-2015, 03:44 PM
Because turbos blow so often [emoji23]

Drop it in with a set of RS6 hybrids. Upgrade MAF housing, injectors, clutch and fuel pump.

Make 450whp. Easy.


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not just turbos, but v6 engines just suck to work on.

LINDW4LL
01-11-2015, 03:45 PM
not just turbos, but v6 engines just suck to work on.
A V6 is easier than most engines.

Plus, that's for the mechanic to worry about.


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GrapeBandit
01-11-2015, 04:07 PM
A V6 is easier than most engines.

Plus, that's for the mechanic to worry about.


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a v6 is easier than a longitudinal I-4? lay off the drugs. plus the way it sounds, OP is most likely his own mechanic as am I

dwbunks
01-19-2015, 08:35 PM
Update: I found a working 1.8t engine and trans a few hours away from where I live with ~130,000 km on the pair and for only $300 for the two???? LOL guess I may be going this route afterall

dwbunks
01-19-2015, 08:36 PM
Also the rest of the parts on the car are going dirt cheap if anyone in Canada wants me to grab anything from it! all from a '99 a4

Corrado_Guy
01-19-2015, 09:10 PM
A V6 is easier than most engines.

Plus, that's for the mechanic to worry about.


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If you are paying that mechanic then it may make some people worry. Don't give up on the 2.8, I remember 034 was making a single turbo kit for one of the V6 motors and that would give you more than enough power. The V6 may have a few issues but they are good motors and they have one thing the 1.8T does not have and that is bottom end grunt. I have a hybrid GT28RS that I have been running at about 21 psi and it yanks the car forward but down low it has very little. Give the V6 some love, check 034's kit and see if that is within your budget.

Mad Cow
01-19-2015, 09:57 PM
Damn that's a great deal, I had to drive from Toronto to Sarnia to pick up my motor and it was still $400. You're gonna need a lot more than just the motor to do the swap though, tons of small random parts that need to be swapped over. If you don't have a parts car you're gonna be visiting the junkyard really often.

Drifter420
01-20-2015, 03:34 AM
I drove sarnia to Kitchener for a 200 tranny 300 for both that's a steal

dwbunks
01-20-2015, 11:42 AM
Give the V6 some love, check 034's kit and see if that is within your budget.
I don't think said kit exists yet (could very well be wrong)and I have plenty love for the 2.8... it just can't push what I want it to.

Mad Cow
01-20-2015, 01:26 PM
I don't think said kit exists yet (could very well be wrong)and I have plenty love for the 2.8... it just can't push what I want it too.

Yea there's not much point, stock to stock a 1.8t will handle more power than a 2.8. The best way to make power with the 2.8 is to start with a 2.7t bottom end, hell just start with a 2.7t and save yourself the trouble.