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adam044
01-01-2015, 01:06 PM
Here's my plan, FMIC, upgraded sway bars, snub mount & short shifter this year. Then next year (If I can wait that long) K04 turbo upgrade w/ a new tune/injectors.

I'm looking for some suggestions for a FMIC, Ive seen the CXRacing kit posted a lot but wondering what everyone likes/uses or if that is the best one to go with.

Also sway bar upgrade recommendations would be great. Leaning more towards something aftermarket rather than the S4 upgrade.

alexvanlewen
01-01-2015, 01:26 PM
CXRacing is garbage.

nynoah
01-01-2015, 01:26 PM
For your turbo size and plans get the CX Racing kit this one.
http://www.cxracing.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=CXR&Product_Code=KIT-A4-B5-IC0035&Category_Code=ICKAD

adam044
01-01-2015, 01:34 PM
For your turbo size and plans get the CX Racing kit this one.
http://www.cxracing.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=CXR&Product_Code=KIT-A4-B5-IC0035&Category_Code=ICKAD

Yup that's the one I was looking at.

Turbo_B5
01-01-2015, 01:42 PM
I was looking at http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=400662679277 for when I upgrade my turbo.

Seerlah
01-01-2015, 01:49 PM
^Core is larger on the CX Racing one.

adam044
01-01-2015, 02:36 PM
^Core is larger on the CX Racing one.

Yup was just going to say that. $60 for shipping on that one also so if you were looking to save some only it's not as much as you think.

Turbo_B5
01-01-2015, 03:44 PM
The CXRacing one is including shipping to Canada is $486.10 USD, $543.30 CAD. and the eBay one including shipping to Canada is $347.95 USD, $403.85 CAD. Extra $140 for the CXRacing. Will I see substantially better performance with the CXRacing? Don't wanna spend an extra $140 if I don't have to.

EDIT: CXRacing does come with mounting brackets though.

gearhead9992
01-01-2015, 03:52 PM
this is what im doing
http://www.ebay.com/itm/27-X5-5-X2-5-ALUMINUM-BLACK-FMIC-BAR-PLATE-FRONT-MOUNT-TURBO-INTERCOOLER-/151070482471?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item232c80a027&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CXRacing-3-Intercooler-Piping-Audi-A4-S4-A6-S6-A8-TT-/120342867127?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c04fe6cb7&vxp=mtr

im going to powder coat the piping black ass well my b5 is black as well I like the sleeper look

gearhead9992
01-01-2015, 04:01 PM
along with some of these to complete the all black

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-3-0-Inch-Universal-Straight-Silicone-Hose-Coupler-Intercooler-Pipe-Black-/381106046346?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item58bbb0c58a&vxp=mtr

Turbo_B5
01-01-2015, 04:32 PM
^ all that piping is for 3inch. That core you selected is 2.5inch inlet. outlet is not listed.

adam044
01-01-2015, 05:19 PM
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The CXRacing one is including shipping to Canada is $486.10 USD, $543.30 CAD. and the eBay one including shipping to Canada is $347.95 USD, $403.85 CAD. Extra $140 for the CXRacing. Will I see substantially better performance with the CXRacing? Don't wanna spend an extra $140 if I don't have to.

EDIT: CXRacing does come with mounting brackets though.

Oh you're outside the U.S. so I guess you do have a good amount of savings.

jsbs1991
01-01-2015, 08:58 PM
Is there one that you could use with stock bumper and still keep your fog lights in? I don't mind trimming my bumper or anything I just want to keep my fog lights in.

ray4624
01-01-2015, 09:19 PM
eBay piping and treadstone tr18.

If I had fogs, I would be able to keep them with my race tech fmic. Did have to trim the bumper grills though.


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biketsai
01-01-2015, 10:42 PM
If I were stopping at a K04, I would get a side mount and maybe some upgraded hoses and call it a day.

adam044
01-02-2015, 02:12 AM
Why is that?

adam044
01-02-2015, 02:12 AM
Yeah losing the fogs is going to suck. It's one of my favorite things about the car.

gmx
01-02-2015, 03:34 AM
If I were stopping at a K04, I would get a side mount and maybe some upgraded hoses and call it a day.

This.
You should probably do FMIC last when you actually get K04+tune. I wouldn't recommend installing a FMIC and go straight to the Apikol with modified oem ducting to fit it if you really need an intercooler upgrade (log your IATs with the K04).
It would probably be better to get an aftermarket hybrid, such as FT/Loba/GTT turbo etc

adam044
01-02-2015, 05:25 AM
What's the problem with installing a FMIC with the setup I have now?

I'm not sure what an Apikol is either I've never done engine upgrades other than ecu tunes so sorry.

How do you like your H Sway Bars? Link?

Seerlah
01-02-2015, 06:55 AM
Apikol is a company

http://www.apikol.com/index.php/products/b5-a4-side-mount-intercooler-1997-2001.html

adam044
01-02-2015, 09:27 AM
The side mount is more. Why go with that? Is it more efficient with a tuned k04 than w a FMIC found gmx's post a little confusing.

pbcrazy
01-02-2015, 09:46 AM
Yeah losing the fogs is going to suck. It's one of my favorite things about the car.

You don't have to as long as you use <2.5" piping, can be tricky though depending on the placement of the piping but possible nonetheless (may have to modify the brackets or something, I don't have fogs but I could fit them if I did have them). Being facelift works in your favor for that one.

adam044
01-02-2015, 10:03 AM
You don't have to as long as you use <2.5" piping, can be tricky though depending on the placement of the piping but possible nonetheless (may have to modify the brackets or something, I don't have fogs but I could fit them if I did have them). Being facelift works in your favor for that one.

Are you still running the stock turbo? Just bigger injectors with a tune? What FMIC do you have?

Actually think I found the kit you Got on United motorsports website.

pbcrazy
01-02-2015, 10:14 AM
Are you still running the stock turbo? Just bigger injectors with a tune? What FMIC do you have?

Actually think I found the kit you Got on United motorsports website.

Frankenturbo f21, 630cc injectors, United motorsports stage 3 tune. I actually just have a cxracing fmic, Virginia is relatively cold most of the year so it has worked just fine for me. If I was in Texas or something then I would have definitely gotten a more efficient core.

Only thing I got from UM is the tune. FMIC was like $80 on ebay

adam044
01-02-2015, 11:51 AM
Frankenturbo f21, 630cc injectors, United motorsports stage 3 tune. I actually just have a cxracing fmic, Virginia is relatively cold most of the year so it has worked just fine for me. If I was in Texas or something then I would have definitely gotten a more efficient core.

Only thing I got from UM is the tune. FMIC was like $80 on ebay

Oh okay. UM sells stage 3 kit for $599. Good to know though.

I actually just pm'd k0mpresd because I've heard good things about him and his tunes.

Seerlah
01-02-2015, 12:03 PM
You already have a tune in your sig. Just stick with it.

adam044
01-02-2015, 12:18 PM
You already have a tune in your sig. Just stick with it.

I am sticking with it for now but if I go with a bigger turbo/injectors I'd get another tune to take advantage of the upgrades.

biketsai
01-02-2015, 03:33 PM
I say the side mount because it's a small turbo that can likely get adequate cooling with that unit. Sure it may be more expensive but it's a sure fit and you don't have to hack up your bumper (unless you have a S4
Bumper). I went through 2 intercooler setups, had random issues with it and wish I could've stopped at a side mount. Once you hack up that bumper you never go back.

pbcrazy
01-02-2015, 03:50 PM
I say the side mount because it's a small turbo that can likely get adequate cooling with that unit. Sure it may be more expensive but it's a sure fit and you don't have to hack up your bumper (unless you have a S4
Bumper). I went through 2 intercooler setups, had random issues with it and wish I could've stopped at a side mount. Once you hack up that bumper you never go back.

As long as you use a 2.5" thick core with <2.5" piping then you don't have the hack the actual metal crash portion of the bumper. Just some plastic trimming around the lower grills.

adam044
01-02-2015, 04:03 PM
I say the side mount because it's a small turbo that can likely get adequate cooling with that unit. Sure it may be more expensive but it's a sure fit and you don't have to hack up your bumper (unless you have a S4
Bumper). I went through 2 intercooler setups, had random issues with it and wish I could've stopped at a side mount. Once you hack up that bumper you never go back.

But but then I don't get the cool FMIC look... haha. Definitely an option though, that is why I'm asking for help after all.

adam044
01-02-2015, 04:04 PM
As long as you use a 2.5" thick core with <2.5" piping then you don't have the hack the actual metal crash portion of the bumper. Just some plastic trimming around the lower grills.

That I can do, sounds like a dremel would work for that, yes?

biketsai
01-02-2015, 04:06 PM
If you're going for the FMiC look then go for it. There is an ebay company that makes premade piping for like $175 on ebay.

adam044
01-02-2015, 04:20 PM
Frankenturbo f21, 630cc injectors, United motorsports stage 3 tune. I actually just have a cxracing fmic, Virginia is relatively cold most of the year so it has worked just fine for me. If I was in Texas or something then I would have definitely gotten a more efficient core.

Only thing I got from UM is the tune. FMIC was like $80 on ebay

Where did you find the intercooler for $80? The entire setup is $350 ish

adam044
01-02-2015, 04:25 PM
If you're going for the FMiC look then go for it. There is an ebay company that makes premade piping for like $175 on ebay.

What about that godspeed FMIC you have?

Looks like you have a mean car by your avatar.

Turbo_B5
01-02-2015, 04:55 PM
I was looking at http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=400662679277 for when I upgrade my turbo.

Godspeed is just ebay Chinese shit. They changed there name to rev9. That one I linked above I have been watching for over a year and it was formally named godspeed.

adam044
01-02-2015, 05:26 PM
Godspeed is just ebay Chinese shit. They changed there name to rev9. That one I linked above I have been watching for over a year and it was formally named godspeed.

Ah okay, the name made it sound more than it was I guess. So far I'm thinking the CXRacing one. Seems like the bumper on these cars don't leave much room for anything much bigger.

adam044
01-02-2015, 05:29 PM
FMIC, K04 turbo, new tune, bigger injectors, snub mount, short shifter and F/R sway bars. Just pile it on!!! I'm going to end up ordering every thing all at once because like I said I am not a patient person.

pbcrazy
01-02-2015, 05:32 PM
Where did you find the intercooler for $80? The entire setup is $350 ish

Core was like $80. Piping was around $120 (origin motorsports, also ebay)

Seerlah
01-02-2015, 05:40 PM
As long as you use a 2.5" thick core with <2.5" piping then you don't have the hack the actual metal crash portion of the bumper. Just some plastic trimming around the lower grills.

Not true. It depends on intercooler height. I have the TR18T behind the stock bumper and actually designed it with measurements from my stock bumper. Took a lot of cutting and trimming, but fits behind the stock bumper while retaining AC, fog lights, and all grills. But...installation will dictate this.

biketsai
01-02-2015, 05:58 PM
Don't get the Godspeed, I just dont care enough to change it enough and I got it way before the Treadstone came out. Treadstone at least, however I wonder if that has too much volume for a K04.

adam044
01-02-2015, 06:03 PM
Not true. It depends on intercooler height. I have the TR18T behind the stock bumper and actually designed it with measurements from my stock bumper. Took a lot of cutting and trimming, but fits behind the stock bumper while retaining AC, fog lights, and all grills. But...installation will dictate this.

Now that's a full size inter cooler! Does seem I bit overkill for a k04 though. Thoughts?

GrapeBandit
01-02-2015, 07:16 PM
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/606888-An-other-eBay-fmic-thread
read this thread if you like. . .

adam044
01-02-2015, 08:03 PM
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/606888-An-other-eBay-fmic-thread
read this thread if you like. . .

Ummmm, so go with the TR18T? No one seemed to like the eBay FMIC which I'm not surprised by. I really didn't want an eBay FMIC but that's all people are suggesting.

Looking like I can get a TR18T for close to the same price as the CX Racing kit on eBay.

adam044
01-02-2015, 08:05 PM
Not true. It depends on intercooler height. I have the TR18T behind the stock bumper and actually designed it with measurements from my stock bumper. Took a lot of cutting and trimming, but fits behind the stock bumper while retaining AC, fog lights, and all grills. But...installation will dictate this.

Got links to the piping you used? The core is easy to find.

I imagine it's just trim a little try it, trim some more try it, and repeat and repeat until it fits?

Seerlah
01-03-2015, 04:17 AM
I had it custom installed. 2.25" universal hot side and 2.5" universal cold side cut and welded to fit.

adam044
01-03-2015, 06:28 AM
I had it custom installed. 2.25" universal hot side and 2.5" universal cold side cut and welded to fit.

Oh... Yeah no way am I paying someone to install a FMIC.

Seerlah
01-03-2015, 06:40 AM
I had it done by a forum member. Forgot how much I threw him. He just wanted me to buy him a new tank of argon gas, which I did. But threw maybe an extra $50 on top. For what you want, just get a CX Racing kit or the Apikol SMIC.

adam044
01-03-2015, 07:19 AM
well I may have just done a complete change of mind. Pm'd K0mpresd he said tune with 17psi and a test pipe. I can't get rid of my cat here in NH so now I'm thinking upgraded downpipe and a high flow cat to complete my exhaust. I'd be happy with 17psi and it would be much cheaper than a turbo upgrade. Although the cat and downpipe and expensive from a quick look at 034.

Now would the stock turbo benefit from a FMIC such as the TR18T or would that be overkil? Or would a CX Racing do the job? Or is it not necessary but I could do it if I wanted to?

adam044
01-03-2015, 07:21 AM
I had it done by a forum member. Forgot how much I threw him. He just wanted me to buy him a new tank of argon gas, which I did. But threw maybe an extra $50 on top. For what you want, just get a CX Racing kit or the Apikol SMIC.

Okay. Think I may have a change in plans. See the post above this. I still think an intercooler will be beneficial but we'll see what you guys say. I also asked k0mpresd what he thinks about a FMIC with a stock turbo. Can't hurt right?

I do plan to run it down the drag strip for fun this year if that matters at all.

Seerlah
01-03-2015, 07:40 AM
My car is far from street legal. I don't have a cat converter and I dump my pcv system to under the car via two -10an hoses. Everything ripped out. You just need to know how to go about it. About to head out the door in a couple minutes to get my car inspected (expires this month). Can't get it inspected at places like Valvoline.

I usually go to a tuner shop like 20-30 miles away. They do all safety and light checks, but they don't care about my emissions stuff as long as I don't have a CEL and I pass all readiness via OBD II scan (think they do it because my car is not a hack job). But found a place in my home town now. $30 cash and he only checks the OBD II port (you can't have a CEL).

adam044
01-03-2015, 07:56 AM
I've been going to my guy for 4-5 years now but I don't think he would let me slide for that. obviously I would never pass with a cel but even the shop that I got my exhaust from would do a straight pipe on my friends Talon for some reason.

I think I'm going to go with the downpipe and high flow cat with a tune from k0mpresd. And I think a CX racing FMIC just for the hell of it.

Best part is I can order all this stuff now and have it installed asap!

adam044
01-03-2015, 08:40 AM
So can I get a universal high flow cat or should I go with this one http://store.034motorsport.com/high-flow-catalytic-converter-b5-b6-audi-a4-1-8t.html and for the down pipe this one http://store.034motorsport.com/downpipe-3-audi-b5-1-8t-stock-fitment.html or something else?

I see high flow cats from magnaflow and others for $100 so what's why I ask.

gmx
01-03-2015, 09:04 AM
FMIC for the hell of it, that's a new one. Before you do it one home run, install it before and after then log intake temperature. Comment on throttle response/butt dyno :)

GrapeBandit
01-03-2015, 09:13 AM
get a fake cat[up] they are $40
http://www.siliconeintakes.com/dsm-intercooler-piping/catalytic-converter-p-320.html

adam044
01-03-2015, 09:17 AM
FMIC for the hell of it, that's a new one. Before you do it one home run, install it before and after then log intake temperature. Comment on throttle response/butt dyno :)

Lol. Well I planned to install one and just went through asking all of you so I think I should still do it.


Thoughts on the DP and cat?

pbcrazy
01-03-2015, 09:18 AM
So can I get a universal high flow cat or should I go with this one http://store.034motorsport.com/high-flow-catalytic-converter-b5-b6-audi-a4-1-8t.html and for the down pipe this one http://store.034motorsport.com/downpipe-3-audi-b5-1-8t-stock-fitment.html or something else?

I see high flow cats from magnaflow and others for $100 so what's why I ask.
After I failed inspection this year because of my test pipe I added a 3" magnaflow spun cat. Passed inspection and i have noticed 0 difference in how it drives. I could see right through the thing so I don't think it actually does much, granted hard ass shops will probably still fail you for it not being "oem"

adam044
01-03-2015, 09:18 AM
get a fake cat[up] they are $40
http://www.siliconeintakes.com/dsm-intercooler-piping/catalytic-converter-p-320.html

I need a cat to pass inspection... If I didnt I would get a test pipe not a fake cat.

adam044
01-03-2015, 09:20 AM
After I failed inspection this year because of my test pipe I added a 3" magnaflow spun cat. Passed inspection and i have noticed 0 difference in how it drives. I could see right through the thing so I don't think it actually does much, granted hard ass shops will probably still fail you for it not being "oem"

That's actaully the cat I saw when I did a quick search. My guys not a hard ass like that so that would be fine.

So got the cat now what about a DP?

GrapeBandit
01-03-2015, 09:20 AM
I need a cat to pass inspection... If I didnt I would get a test pipe not a fake cat.
get a system tbat bolts to your stock cat. get a test pipe on ebay for like $60-$70 and just swap the cat in once a yr for inspection. cheaper and still ahead of the game

pbcrazy
01-03-2015, 09:26 AM
That's actaully the cat I saw when I did a quick search. My guys not a hard ass like that so that would be fine.

So got the cat now what about a DP?

I would go custom. Most of the premade ones are way overpriced for <2' of piping and a flex. I think I paid $175 for my 3" downpipe

adam044
01-03-2015, 09:45 AM
get a system tbat bolts to your stock cat. get a test pipe on ebay for like $60-$70 and just swap the cat in once a yr for inspection. cheaper and still ahead of the game

I'm not dealing with that every year. I'm going to probably get what Pb has. I really wouldnt be saving that much by doing that.

adam044
01-03-2015, 09:47 AM
I would go custom. Most of the premade ones are way overpriced for <2' of piping and a flex. I think I paid $175 for my 3" downpipe

So true. Stupid me for not thinking that. My exhaust shop does awesome work, that will be easy for them and they can fit it all together nicely. So I guess all I need to order is the cat and make a call to my shop!

And of course the tune so I can get rid of this crap speedtuning 12 psi tune.

pbcrazy
01-03-2015, 09:47 AM
I'm not dealing with that every year. I'm going to probably get what Pb has. I really wouldnt be saving that much by doing that.

1 or 2 hp at most for an extra 2 hours of work every year. Wasn't worth it to me

adam044
01-03-2015, 09:57 AM
1 or 2 hp at most for an extra 2 hours of work every year. Wasn't worth it to me

Yeah absolutely not worth it. I want it installed and to be done with it. can't wait for a better tune.

adam044
01-03-2015, 11:27 AM
So PB this is the spun cat. http://www.amazon.com/Magnaflow-59959-Universal-Catalytic-Converter/dp/B000RQS6VW# I Assume you have no check engine lights when you had it installed? No O2 sensors or anything like that? As long as I don't have a check engine light I think I'm fine.

GrapeBandit
01-03-2015, 12:18 PM
I'm not dealing with that every year. I'm going to probably get what Pb has. I really wouldnt be saving that much by doing that.

if you cant swap a pipe out once a year that has only 6 nuts holding it in, you shouldnt be modding your car. are you not capable of taking 6 nuts off?

adam044
01-03-2015, 12:37 PM
if you cant swap a pipe out once a year that has only 6 nuts holding it in, you shouldnt be modding your car. are you not capable of taking 6 nuts off?

Lol. Still not doing it. Going with the cat.

pbcrazy
01-03-2015, 12:59 PM
So PB this is the spun cat. http://www.amazon.com/Magnaflow-59959-Universal-Catalytic-Converter/dp/B000RQS6VW# I Assume you have no check engine lights when you had it installed? No O2 sensors or anything like that? As long as I don't have a check engine light I think I'm fine.
Looks like the one I have. And I already have a spaced secondary o2 sensor as I had a test pipe (and still do, I put the cat just after the flex pipe), so it may or may not cause a CEL not really sure.


if you cant swap a pipe out once a year that has only 6 nuts holding it in, you shouldnt be modding your car. are you not capable of taking 6 nuts off?
For a 0-1hp (at max) gain then I saw no reason to have to deal with replacing the cat every year, not to mention the fact that some states have fines up to $5,000 for being catless (and yes they can smell when you are catless, not all cops are dumb). If you want to do that then by all means go for it. I couldn't justify the risk for a gain that cannot be measured or felt.

adam044
01-03-2015, 01:06 PM
Looks like the one I have. And I already have a spaced secondary o2 sensor as I had a test pipe (and still do, I put the cat just after the flex pipe), so it may or may not cause a CEL not really sure.

So can I order a spaced secondary O2 sensor and have the shop install it when I have them do the cat and DP? I know I saw the sensor's on 034's website for like $18. Not entirely sure what a spaced O2 sensor is as Ive never done this before.

Or I guess I can just try it as is and if I get a CEL I got from there. I don't have to worry about anything until April. Gives me plenty of time.

Im just waiting for k0mpresd to reply to my PM about 2-3 things, want to be 100% sure before I order what I want.

pbcrazy
01-03-2015, 01:08 PM
So can I order a spaced secondary O2 sensor and have the shop install it when I have them do the cat and DP? I know I saw the sensor's on 034's website for like $18.

My test pipe came with a J-pipe built in. Some people have had luck with anti-foulers, but I would just get a J-pipe and have it welded in if you get a CEL, if you don't then just don't mess with it

adam044
01-03-2015, 01:12 PM
My test pipe came with a J-pipe built in. Some people have had luck with anti-foulers, but I would just get a J-pipe and have it welded in if you get a CEL, if you don't then just don't mess with it

Okay cool.

Can anyone here confirm if I will get a CEL or not? If I 100% will then it makes sense to just have everything done all at once rather than going back to the shop a 2nd time.

jjvwg
01-03-2015, 02:40 PM
Now that's a full size inter cooler! Does seem I bit overkill for a k04 though. Thoughts?

i ran my TR18T with cxracing piping on my k03 for a few months before i went GTRS. never had a problem, didnt lose any boost and spooled all the same. i would go that route or apikol SMIC!

adam044
01-04-2015, 06:51 AM
Can you link me to the proper piping?

Seerlah
01-04-2015, 06:59 AM
^ He has a b6. And this really isn't rocket science. This thread should not be as long as it is.

adam044
01-04-2015, 07:09 AM
Eh who cares, there's good conversation happening.

Do I have a map sensor I need to worry about. I saw someone say yes and some say no.



Here's the paln as of now: hopefully I can get into the exhaust shop this week to get a custom DP and the rest of my stock exhaust replaced. I'm also going to ask it they have high flow cats which I imagine they do so if that's the case I would have them do that as well rather than ordering one.

Then Thursday after work I will pop my ECU in the mail and overnight it to K0mpresd so he can have it Friday and hopefully get it back to me by Monday afternoon for work on Tuesday morning.

Seerlah
01-04-2015, 07:28 AM
Not really. This is a good conversation intercooler thread.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/417927-Not-the-same-intercooler-thread?highlight=intercooler+thread

You just seem really undecided on a really simple decision. Pardon if I am coming off rude. Not my intent (sincerely).

adam044
01-04-2015, 08:18 AM
Well that's becusse I am haha. Want it done right and there's a couple different options that's all. Just weighing them all out. But I'm leaning towards the tr18t with CX racing piping. I'm just a little worried about making it fit.

Seerlah
01-04-2015, 08:22 AM
If you want it done once and not have to do it again, then TR18t is the way to go. Will cater to any setup up to roughly 400whp. You would just need to tweek hot side piping as your setup changes. Cold side should not change much, if any.

jjvwg
01-04-2015, 08:53 AM
Can you link me to the proper piping?

Just get in contact with cxracing and tell them you want to buy just the piping from their b5 FMIC kit.

ray4624
01-04-2015, 10:27 AM
If you can't tweak some ic piping you shouldn't be working on your car lol.

Tr18 with eBay/cx racing piping is the way to go. If I didn't get the racetec kit with my turbo I would have gone that route.


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adam044
01-04-2015, 10:41 AM
If you want it done once and not have to do it again, then TR18t is the way to go. Will cater to any setup up to roughly 400whp. You would just need to tweek hot side piping as your setup changes. Cold side should not change much, if any.

Awesome that one it is! Now to find the cheapest price on it.


Just get in contact with cxracing and tell them you want to buy just the piping from their b5 FMIC kit.

Will do!


If you can't tweak some ic piping you shouldn't be working on your car lol.

Tr18 with eBay/cx racing piping is the way to go. If I didn't get the racetec kit with my turbo I would have gone that route.


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Lol I think I can manage.

Seerlah
01-04-2015, 10:55 AM
Cheapest price would most likely be direct from them. They ran a group buy for me when first released for $200+shipping and that is when many people scooped them up. Naysayers did afterwards, and paid the extra $60 or so [:p]

adam044
01-04-2015, 11:27 AM
So the cx racing piping seems really expensive. its more than the inter cooler.

Cx racing http://www.ebay.com/itm/CXRacing-94-01-Audi-A4-B5-FMIC-Intercooler-piping-Kit-2-5-Core-/160657740518?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2567f292e6

Other option? http://www.ebay.com/itm/A4-1-8T-B5-98-01-DIRECT-BOLT-ON-FRONT-MOUNT-INTERCOOLER-PIPING-SILICONE-HOSE-KIT-/231441280410?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3AAudi&hash=item35e2f9ad9a&vxp=mtr

jjvwg
01-04-2015, 02:06 PM
So the cx racing piping seems really expensive. its more than the inter cooler.

Cx racing http://www.ebay.com/itm/CXRacing-94-01-Audi-A4-B5-FMIC-Intercooler-piping-Kit-2-5-Core-/160657740518?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2567f292e6

Other option? http://www.ebay.com/itm/A4-1-8T-B5-98-01-DIRECT-BOLT-ON-FRONT-MOUNT-INTERCOOLER-PIPING-SILICONE-HOSE-KIT-/231441280410?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3AAudi&hash=item35e2f9ad9a&vxp=mtr

thats not a bad price for the cxracing piping kit. i paid $320 shipped from them for b6 piping but i also got the intercooler mount. they didnt sell just the piping on ebay back when i did my install back in the summer of 2013. not sure on the cx b5 core, but the tr18t overall length was the same as the cx b6 core. i was able to use the cxracing piping without any modification on my k03. the cxracing piping has been used by many here unlike the other kit you linked to. up to you in the end, but the cxracing kit might be worth the extra bit of money. also, the ad for the other piping doesnt picture the bung for the MAP sensor. i would check and make sure it comes with one otherwise you'll have to have someone weld one on for you. heres a link to my install to give you some ideas on getting it all mounted up, different chassis but same motor so it should help you some.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/545750-Treadstone-TR18T-install-and-review-with-logs!

adam044
01-04-2015, 02:34 PM
thats not a bad price for the cxracing piping kit. i paid $320 shipped from them for b6 piping but i also got the intercooler mount. they didnt sell just the piping on ebay back when i did my install back in the summer of 2013. not sure on the cx b5 core, but the tr18t overall length was the same as the cx b6 core. i was able to use the cxracing piping without any modification on my k03. the cxracing piping has been used by many here unlike the other kit you linked to. up to you in the end, but the cxracing kit might be worth the extra bit of money. also, the ad for the other piping doesnt picture the bung for the MAP sensor. i would check and make sure it comes with one otherwise you'll have to have someone weld one on for you. heres a link to my install to give you some ideas on getting it all mounted up, different chassis but same motor so it should help you some.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/545750-Treadstone-TR18T-install-and-review-with-logs!

It's worth the extra money then to know that it is correct.

Shipping on the tr18t is killer. $30, ouch.

nynoah
01-04-2015, 03:20 PM
Buy no other FMIC kit from Ebay other than the CXracing one. The other kits will have no internal fins and they are worthless. I mean absolutely worthless... as in your stock intercooler is better. Stop trying to save a few bucks. You will end up wasting your money and spending it twice. The CXRacing kit works fine for your turbo aspirations. The TR18t core is a great core but I think it is going to be too big for a K04, you will get lag and pressure drop due the volume being too large. TR18t is fine for a Franken Turbo or bigger.

biketsai
01-04-2015, 03:27 PM
Look to see if there is another company that sells that intercooler piping kit. I paid $175 for mine and it's the exact same.

adam044
01-04-2015, 03:33 PM
Buy no other FMIC kit from Ebay other than the CXracing one. The other kits will have no internal fins and they are worthless. I mean absolutely worthless... as in your stock intercooler is better. Stop trying to save a few bucks. You will end up wasting your money and spending it twice. The CXRacing kit works fine for your turbo aspirations. The TR18t core is a great core but I think it is going to be too big for a K04, you will get lag and pressure drop due the volume being too large. TR18t is fine for a Franken Turbo or bigger.

I'm going with the TR18T with my k03, others have ran it fine with the k03. There's a think to logs a few posts up also.

adam044
01-04-2015, 03:34 PM
Look to see if there is another company that sells that intercooler piping kit. I paid $175 for mine and it's the exact same.

Did you find it on eBay? $175 would make me feel better.

nynoah
01-04-2015, 03:55 PM
The CXRacing piping is 2.0 on the hotside and 2.5 on the cold side. All other kits you have linked to are are 2.0 to 2.0. You want 2.0 to 2.5 cold side.

ray4624
01-04-2015, 04:19 PM
It really doesn't matter for what he is running for a turbo. It's all going to be overkill anyways.

I run 2" on a 2871 and it's not that bad as long as it isn't boiling hot out.


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pbcrazy
01-04-2015, 04:26 PM
Other option? http://www.ebay.com/itm/A4-1-8T-B5-98-01-DIRECT-BOLT-ON-FRONT-MOUNT-INTERCOOLER-PIPING-SILICONE-HOSE-KIT-/231441280410?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3AAudi&hash=item35e2f9ad9a&vxp=mtr

Thats the kit I have. Not a perfect fit but it's still leak free and stable after 2 years and for quite a bit cheaper than you could get it custom made

GrapeBandit
01-04-2015, 06:41 PM
Am I the only one that apart from aesthetics, a FMIC won't do much, especially since he lives in New Hampshire?
New Hampshire suddenly doesnt have summer or warm days anymore[confused]

ray4624
01-04-2015, 09:00 PM
Not hot enough to warrant a fmic on a ko3.


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gmx
01-04-2015, 11:33 PM
If you're exhaust fab guy is good. Properly size your intercooler for your turbo. 250hp for k04-015. About 300-400hp for any other hybrid.
Get a goood core, get endtanks welded on and pipes made up. I bet it's cheaper and far better than that useless ebay shit.

Regarding the thread Seerlah linked earlier:
No offence to bikestai but his Godspeed 30*3*10" just reeks typical ebay. I run the same turbo, and my ER Comp with a far more efficient core (granted, it is heavy bar & plate, 20*3*11") only has an IAT delta of 2-3C max. His is 10C which is still decent but goes to show intercooler quality of similar size.

adam044
01-05-2015, 02:15 AM
The CXRacing piping is 2.0 on the hotside and 2.5 on the cold side. All other kits you have linked to are are 2.0 to 2.0. You want 2.0 to 2.5 cold side.

Wasn't paying attention since I know I need 2 and 2.5. Good catch thanks.

adam044
01-05-2015, 02:18 AM
It really doesn't matter for what he is running for a turbo. It's all going to be overkill anyways.

I run 2" on a 2871 and it's not that bad as long as it isn't boiling hot out.


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Well I don't want to run an eBay intercooler and the price difference between the treadstone and cxracing isn't enough to make me go with the cxracing. I'm open to other options if you have any suggestions

adam044
01-05-2015, 02:18 AM
Not hot enough to warrant a fmic on a ko3.


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Tuner said go for it.

adam044
01-05-2015, 02:20 AM
If you're exhaust fab guy is good. Properly size your intercooler for your turbo. 250hp for k04-015. About 300-400hp for any other hybrid.
Get a goood core, get endtanks welded on and pipes made up. I bet it's cheaper and far better than that useless ebay shit.

Regarding the thread Seerlah linked earlier:
No offence to bikestai but his Godspeed 30*3*10" just reeks typical ebay. I run the same turbo, and my ER Comp with a far more efficient core (granted, it is heavy bar & plate, 20*3*11") only has an IAT delta of 2-3C max. His is 10C which is still decent but goes to show intercooler quality of similar size.

They probably could weld me up up my intercooler didn't think of that. I actually think it would be more. I can ask though.

adam044
01-05-2015, 09:36 AM
So custom down pipe, high flow cat, high heat flex pipe, and the rest of my exhaust (like 80%) replaced with 2.5 inch piping.

Who wants to guess? I stopped by the shop today for an estimate.

MetalMan
01-05-2015, 10:16 AM
$900+, assuming stainless steel with mandrel bends.

adam044
01-05-2015, 10:23 AM
Of course stainless steel. What else would you use? Serious question.

$750.

GrapeBandit
01-05-2015, 10:40 AM
Of course stainless steel. What else would you use? Serious question.

$750.$750 isnt bad, but go 3" not 2.5.

got my mandrel bent 3" 409 stainless turboback with v-bands, 3 o2 ports, no resonators and 2 mufflers for $525! best $525 I spent. quiet and absolutely zero drone no matter what rpm and gear. I got lucky with that

adam044
01-05-2015, 11:14 AM
$750 isnt bad, but go 3" not 2.5.

got my mandrel bent 3" 409 stainless turboback with v-bands, 3 o2 ports, no resonators and 2 mufflers for $525! best $525 I spent. quiet and absolutely zero drone no matter what rpm and gear. I got lucky with that

That's dirt cheap. My muffler alone was close to $200.
2.5 is what I'm already at when I Had my exhaust done earlier this year. Don't know why that's what they used but that's why they did. Fine with 2.5. I need that extra .5 clearance anyways. Lol

MetalMan
01-05-2015, 12:10 PM
Of course stainless steel. What else would you use? Serious question.

$750.

Aluminized steel would be an option, albeit an inferior (and less expensive) one.
Does that price include the HFC, muffler(s), flex section, all parts, etc. as well? My "guess" includes all of those components.

adam044
01-05-2015, 12:32 PM
Aluminized steel would be an option, albeit an inferior (and less expensive) one.
Does that price include the HFC, muffler(s), flex section, all parts, etc. as well? My "guess" includes all of those components.

Yes. I already have a muffler, same people that will be doing this. I did the muffler within the first month of getting the car haha. Including the muffler $900 is very close. My muffler and some 2.5'' piping was $350. I only did some of my exhaust at first because as you know its very expensive and I had just bought the car and needed to do some more important maintenance first.

If you go to the "My Update Thread" link in my sig my muffler sound clip/pictures is one of the very first posts if you are interested.

adam044
01-05-2015, 12:33 PM
Not hot enough to warrant a fmic on a ko3.


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Recommend something then, I am going to do an intercooler its just a matter of what one I will do. CX Racing one for $350 compared to the TR18T for $265 +- $200ish for piping = $465. So for $100 more I get a much better setup than the CX Racing one.

Does treadstone sell a model below the TR18T, if they do that would probably do the job.

GrapeBandit
01-05-2015, 12:52 PM
That's dirt cheap. My muffler alone was close to $200.
2.5 is what I'm already at when I Had my exhaust done earlier this year. Don't know why that's what they used but that's why they did. Fine with 2.5. I need that extra .5 clearance anyways. Lol

I have this muffler
http://pypesexhaust.com/i-13475156-m-80-race-pro-muffler-14-x-3-outlet-304ss-mvr203s.html
and a muffler with a flapper in it. the guy I bought it from said it was an A8 flapper muffler. I threw my system on in a hurry before I really got to inspect the so-called "A8 flapper muffler" due to time constraints. either way, it works very well, so I could care less. if/when I take the system off for whatever reason or happen to climb under the car, I will see if I can get a part # off it to see if it is indeed an Audi part.

ray4624
01-05-2015, 01:19 PM
Stick with the 2.5 on the stock/ko4 turbo. That's the way to go. Many places recommend a 3inch dp/tp to a 2.5 exhaust.

I went with aluminized steel for my exhaust because I usually burn holes in it from being to low before it rots out. I've done my complete exhaust twice on my car and I'm at 750 total.




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adam044
01-05-2015, 05:52 PM
Do I need a snub mount with the bracket or can I just get the mount for $20?

adam044
01-05-2015, 06:31 PM
Look to see if there is another company that sells that intercooler piping kit. I paid $175 for mine and it's the exact same.

Searched on eBay for a while but couldn't find a kit that I knew would work.

Avant Nate
01-06-2015, 09:59 AM
I hate my 3 in exhaust. I really suggest you stay 2.5, especially for K03/K04.

adam044
01-06-2015, 12:14 PM
I hate my 3 in exhaust. I really suggest you stay 2.5, especially for K03/K04.

I am staying with 2.5. wasnt even considering 3 inch.


Still can't decide on the FMIC. No a lot of options which suck.

alexvanlewen
01-06-2015, 12:16 PM
I am staying with 2.5. wasnt even considering 3 inch.


Still can't decide on the FMIC. No a lot of options which suck.
It really does. I hate this, it's hard enough to find one that will fit a stock bumper let alone a good and affordable kit

adam044
01-06-2015, 01:09 PM
It really does. I hate this, it's hard enough to find one that will fit a stock bumper let alone a good and affordable kit

Like it's either a cheap eBay one or the treadstone one which isn't priced bad it's just the piping is $200+ Hopefully a member can find a kit for less because I can find one.

ray4624
01-06-2015, 01:14 PM
the 2" piping will be fine for you.
The chep piping on ebay will work just fine...its cheap but its aluminum piping...how bad can you fuck that up.
main thing is that the tbolts are probably shitty.

treadstone and cheap piping for under 500...thats about as cheap as its going to get for an intercooler that is overkill for both of you.

If you would like, i can sell you my complete racetech kit for like 400 and go buy the treadstone and get some piping made up which is what i should have done in the first place haha.

adam044
01-06-2015, 01:25 PM
the 2" piping will be fine for you.
The chep piping on ebay will work just fine...its cheap but its aluminum piping...how bad can you fuck that up.
main thing is that the tbolts are probably shitty.

treadstone and cheap piping for under 500...thats about as cheap as its going to get for an intercooler that is overkill for both of you.

If you would like, i can sell you my complete racetech kit for like 400 and go buy the treadstone and get some piping made up which is what i should have done in the first place haha.

I know the eBay piping is fine it's almost as much as the inter cooler though haha.

I'd gladly take your racetech setup off your hands for $400. Send some pictures my way? PM me and I can send you my number if you want.

adam044
01-06-2015, 01:28 PM
This the racetech? http://www.racetec-us.com

pbcrazy
01-06-2015, 01:32 PM
$400 for the racetec is a good deal, but still overkill for a k03. Just do an $80 core + $120 piping for a $200 setup which will outperform your k03.

ray4624
01-06-2015, 01:34 PM
yea that race tech.
The piping is pretty beat and has been repaired in a spot where it looked like a bov was welded at some point.
Ill take some pictures tomorrow. Ill have to decide if i have the energy to pull it off the car lol.

adam044
01-06-2015, 01:58 PM
$400 for the racetec is a good deal, but still overkill for a k03. Just do an $80 core + $120 piping for a $200 setup which will outperform your k03.

I guess... I don't really want an eBay one though. I guess if you run. Cx racing one with a Franken turbo I should be more than fine.

Can you link me to what you think I should do? The cx kit is $375.

adam044
01-06-2015, 01:59 PM
yea that race tech.
The piping is pretty beat and has been repaired in a spot where it looked like a bov was welded at some point.
Ill take some pictures tomorrow. Ill have to decide if i have the energy to pull it off the car lol.

Hmm okay. I'll have to see how beat it is thank you

ray4624
01-06-2015, 03:01 PM
I guess... I don't really want an eBay one though. I guess if you run. Cx racing one with a Franken turbo I should be more than fine.

Can you link me to what you think I should do? The cx kit is $375.

the cx racing kit is an ebay kit.
Why do you think whole kit is only like 50 more dollars then the piping kit?
fwiw just go with the cx racing kit. You will fulfill your need of having the fmic and its cheap.

you wont be able to see much in the pictures of the FMIC.
If youre ever close to central mass lmk and i can pull the bumper off for you.

adam044
01-06-2015, 03:37 PM
the cx racing kit is an ebay kit.
Why do you think whole kit is only like 50 more dollars then the piping kit?
fwiw just go with the cx racing kit. You will fulfill your need of having the fmic and its cheap.

you wont be able to see much in the pictures of the FMIC.
If youre ever close to central mass lmk and i can pull the bumper off for you.

I know it's an eBay kit. I'm saying he has a bigger turbo and runs it just fine. I guess if I could get it for $200ish like he said I would do that. But at $375 I would just get the much better one.

$400 for a racetech though is extremely tempting.

pbcrazy
01-06-2015, 03:42 PM
Piping: http://www.ebay.com/itm/A4-1-8T-B5-98-01-DIRECT-BOLT-ON-FRONT-MOUNT-INTERCOOLER-PIPING-SILICONE-HOSE-KIT-/231444643401?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3AA4&hash=item35e32cfe49&vxp=mtr

Core: http://www.ebay.com/itm/CXRacing-27-x6-x2-5-Turbo-Intercooler-BMW-E30-E36-Mini-/290362663894?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item439af6a3d6&vxp=mtr

Plus some new T-bolts as the ones supplied are shit and will rust away after the first rain.

Total: ~$210

ray4624
01-06-2015, 03:46 PM
Piping: http://www.ebay.com/itm/A4-1-8T-B5-98-01-DIRECT-BOLT-ON-FRONT-MOUNT-INTERCOOLER-PIPING-SILICONE-HOSE-KIT-/231444643401?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3AA4&hash=item35e32cfe49&vxp=mtr

Core: http://www.ebay.com/itm/CXRacing-27-x6-x2-5-Turbo-Intercooler-BMW-E30-E36-Mini-/290362663894?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item439af6a3d6&vxp=mtr

Plus some new T-bolts as the ones supplied are shit and will rust away after the first rain.

Total: ~$210

only things missing here are the 2.5 inch cold side (he doesnt need it so who cares)
and the mounting brackets for the core (depending on fab skills this could be useful)

MetalMan
01-06-2015, 03:54 PM
Piping: http://www.ebay.com/itm/A4-1-8T-B5-98-01-DIRECT-BOLT-ON-FRONT-MOUNT-INTERCOOLER-PIPING-SILICONE-HOSE-KIT-/231444643401?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3AA4&hash=item35e32cfe49&vxp=mtr

Core: http://www.ebay.com/itm/CXRacing-27-x6-x2-5-Turbo-Intercooler-BMW-E30-E36-Mini-/290362663894?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item439af6a3d6&vxp=mtr

Plus some new T-bolts as the ones supplied are shit and will rust away after the first rain.

Total: ~$210


only things missing here are the 2.5 inch cold side (he doesnt need it so who cares)
and the mounting brackets for the core (depending on fab skills this could be useful)

Also missing is welding on the MAP sensor bung. Not necessarily an issue, and the piping kit may or may not come with one, but regardless it's a requirement.
I believe this piping kit uses the stock throttle body hose as well...

alexvanlewen
01-06-2015, 03:56 PM
Piping: http://www.ebay.com/itm/A4-1-8T-B5-98-01-DIRECT-BOLT-ON-FRONT-MOUNT-INTERCOOLER-PIPING-SILICONE-HOSE-KIT-/231444643401?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3AA4&hash=item35e32cfe49&vxp=mtr

Core: http://www.ebay.com/itm/CXRacing-27-x6-x2-5-Turbo-Intercooler-BMW-E30-E36-Mini-/290362663894?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item439af6a3d6&vxp=mtr

Plus some new T-bolts as the ones supplied are shit and will rust away after the first rain.

Total: ~$210
27" May be too long of a core

ray4624
01-06-2015, 03:58 PM
Also missing is welding on the MAP sensor bung. Not necessarily an issue, and the piping kit may or may not come with one, but regardless it's a requirement.
I believe this piping kit uses the stock throttle body hose as well...

ah always forget about the MAP bung...im AEB and dont need it.
I also like how the cx racing piping goes to the throttle body. I like the hard pipe there to weld my BOV to.

adam044
01-06-2015, 04:10 PM
Yup that's why I was having trouble finding piping because only the cx racing one had the map bung. I can't weld so that would be an issue.

Wow 2-5 psi drop with that intercooler, that's huge.

Guess I have some things to think about. Appreciate all the help.

MetalMan
01-06-2015, 04:19 PM
Yup that's why I was having trouble finding piping because only the cx racing one had the map bung. I can't weld so that would be an issue.

This was one of my primary requirements when I made my choice about FMIC stuff for my '01... CX Racing piping kit with a CX Racing FMIC I already had laying around... it's the same one as included in the CX Racing kit and works decently well with the FT. I'm sure the TR18T would be much better, but so would meth.

pbcrazy
01-06-2015, 05:46 PM
27" May be too long of a core

Nope. 27" would fit just fine.


Wow 2-5 psi drop with that intercooler, that's huge.

Forgot about the map bung, and yes it does use the stock throttle body hose. And it lists a 2-5psi drop at 35 psi, I sure hope you aren't running 35psi on the k03 lol

adam044
01-07-2015, 10:37 AM
This was one of my primary requirements when I made my choice about FMIC stuff for my '01... CX Racing piping kit with a CX Racing FMIC I already had laying around... it's the same one as included in the CX Racing kit and works decently well with the FT. I'm sure the TR18T would be much better, but so would meth.

Only blue meth.

adam044
01-07-2015, 10:39 AM
Nope. 27" would fit just fine.

Forgot about the map bung, and yes it does use the stock throttle body hose. And it lists a 2-5psi drop at 35 psi, I sure hope you aren't running 35psi on the k03 lol

Nah you're right I'm not running 35 psi, closer to 50. ;)

pichno
02-08-2015, 07:53 AM
Buy no other FMIC kit from Ebay other than the CXracing one. The other kits will have no internal fins and they are worthless. I mean absolutely worthless... as in your stock intercooler is better. Stop trying to save a few bucks. You will end up wasting your money and spending it twice. The CXRacing kit works fine for your turbo aspirations. The TR18t core is a great core but I think it is going to be too big for a K04, you will get lag and pressure drop due the volume being too large. TR18t is fine for a Franken Turbo or bigger.

Not true. I bought this kit from ebay and the core is really nice! I should've took some damn pictures, but compared to friends of mine who have FMIC's from big name companies and paid more than double than what I did.....they looked damn near identical!! With this kit, I did have to hack the shit out of the plastic bumper and put it on, off, on, off probably a dozen times in attempt to minimize cutting more than absolutely necessary, but it ended up fitting TIGHT, so tight I didn't even need to use any mounting brackets or anything. I kept the fog lights too which was a bonus. How do I know this kit is quality for my K04? Well....Dave from Motoza had my IAT's from the stock intercooler and this unit, and said the IAT's now look VERY GOOD for my setup, hence upgrading to the FMIC (this FMIC pasted below) does the job just fine, and for only $212 shipped.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/98-01-A4-1-8T-B5-Upgrade-Bolt-On-Front-Mount-Intercooler-Piping-Kit-Map-Sensor-/171012398917?hash=item27d1221f45

I know there's going to be the "naysayers" which is just fine, to each their own.....but my situation is proof enough that you don't have to spend a shit ton of money to get a quality FMIC for a Stage 1, 2, or even K04 setup on these vehicles. I'm sure there's also going to be people asking for graphs, numbers, etc. well I'm sorry to say I'm not going to bother Dave for that stuff, I know/trust our correspondence enough to know the results. I told him that this kit was cheap and I was hoping for the best, so to let me know what he finds from the logs, and to my surprise his response was nothing but positive. Not to mention it's taking him far too long to respond to my emails as it is right now. Ultimately, I took a chance on this kit and it paid off, so yea.

Best picture I could find to replicate what the core/fins looked like inside (not provided through Ebay seller's pictures and yes I tried acquiring before purchase with no luck). Looks very close & possibly even more "dense" to the photos CXRacing provides when I compare them.




http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af25/joebass3/photobucket-13350-1340246824072.jpg

adam044
02-08-2015, 09:15 AM
Not true. I bought this kit from ebay and the core is really nice! I should've took some damn pictures, but compared to friends of mine who have FMIC's from big name companies and paid more than double than what I did.....they looked damn near identical!! With this kit, I did have to hack the shit out of the plastic bumper and put it on, off, on, off probably a dozen times in attempt to minimize cutting more than absolutely necessary, but it ended up fitting TIGHT, so tight I didn't even need to use any mounting brackets or anything. I kept the fog lights too which was a bonus. How do I know this kit is quality for my K04? Well....Dave from Motoza had my IAT's from the stock intercooler and this unit, and said the IAT's now look VERY GOOD for my setup, hence upgrading to the FMIC (this FMIC pasted below) does the job just fine, and for only $212 shipped.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/98-01-A4-1-8T-B5-Upgrade-Bolt-On-Front-Mount-Intercooler-Piping-Kit-Map-Sensor-/171012398917?hash=item27d1221f45

I know there's going to be the "naysayers" which is just fine, to each their own.....but my situation is proof enough that you don't have to spend a shit ton of money to get a quality FMIC for a Stage 1, 2, or even K04 setup on these vehicles. I'm sure there's also going to be people asking for graphs, numbers, etc. well I'm sorry to say I'm not going to bother Dave for that stuff, I know/trust our correspondence enough to know the results. I told him that this kit was cheap and I was hoping for the best, so to let me know what he finds from the logs, and to my surprise his response was nothing but positive. Not to mention it's taking him far too long to respond to my emails as it is right now. Ultimately, I took a chance on this kit and it paid off, so yea.

Best picture I could find to replicate what the core/fins looked like inside (not provided through Ebay seller's pictures and yes I tried acquiring before purchase with no luck). Looks very close & possibly even more "dense" to the photos CXRacing provides when I compare them.




http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af25/joebass3/photobucket-13350-1340246824072.jpg

Good to know, thanks for the post. I do wish you did have graphs though to prove your point ever further. But at that price with all the piping and MAP sensor looks to be a good deal if it does provide positive numbers.

May still do a FMIC on my K03 tune, wouldn't be for a few months though.

pbcrazy
02-08-2015, 09:21 AM
Not true. I bought this kit from ebay and the core is really nice! I should've took some damn pictures, but compared to friends of mine who have FMIC's from big name companies and paid more than double than what I did.....they looked damn near identical!! With this kit, I did have to hack the shit out of the plastic bumper and put it on, off, on, off probably a dozen times in attempt to minimize cutting more than absolutely necessary, but it ended up fitting TIGHT, so tight I didn't even need to use any mounting brackets or anything. I kept the fog lights too which was a bonus. How do I know this kit is quality for my K04? Well....Dave from Motoza had my IAT's from the stock intercooler and this unit, and said the IAT's now look VERY GOOD for my setup, hence upgrading to the FMIC (this FMIC pasted below) does the job just fine, and for only $212 shipped.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/98-01-A4-1-8T-B5-Upgrade-Bolt-On-Front-Mount-Intercooler-Piping-Kit-Map-Sensor-/171012398917?hash=item27d1221f45

I know there's going to be the "naysayers" which is just fine, to each their own.....but my situation is proof enough that you don't have to spend a shit ton of money to get a quality FMIC for a Stage 1, 2, or even K04 setup on these vehicles. I'm sure there's also going to be people asking for graphs, numbers, etc. well I'm sorry to say I'm not going to bother Dave for that stuff, I know/trust our correspondence enough to know the results. I told him that this kit was cheap and I was hoping for the best, so to let me know what he finds from the logs, and to my surprise his response was nothing but positive. Not to mention it's taking him far too long to respond to my emails as it is right now. Ultimately, I took a chance on this kit and it paid off, so yea.

Best picture I could find to replicate what the core/fins looked like inside (not provided through Ebay seller's pictures and yes I tried acquiring before purchase with no luck). Looks very close & possibly even more "dense" to the photos CXRacing provides when I compare them.


I actually think that is a CXracing core (not that it really matters), it is identical to mine. To be completely honest, all these cores likely come from the same factory and are just sold under different names, none of them have any sort of stamping on the metal or anything to say otherwise.

adam044
02-08-2015, 10:09 AM
I actually think that is a CXracing core (not that it really matters), it is identical to mine. To be completely honest, all these cores likely come from the same factory and are just sold under different names, none of them have any sort of stamping on the metal or anything to say otherwise.

Yup you are correct.

pichno
02-08-2015, 09:04 PM
Absolutely, wouldn't surprise me either, part of "marketing/sales" I suppose. I did forget to include that this Ebay seller did inform me via messaging/email it comes with a 2 year warranty.

viceprp
02-08-2015, 10:10 PM
too bad you aren't closer, I have a cx racing core in my basement that is either turning into wall art for the garage giving it away. Pick up only.

adam044
02-09-2015, 04:33 AM
too bad you aren't closer, I have a cx racing core in my basement that is either turning into wall art for the garage giving it away. Pick up only.

Ship it to 03079, I'll pay you. Then I'd just need piping.

viceprp
02-09-2015, 05:43 AM
Yeah, I'm not shipping. Someone will show up one day or its on the wall.

adam044
02-09-2015, 08:55 AM
Yeah, I'm not shipping. Someone will show up one day or its on the wall.

Then you shouldnt of even told me you had one. It would be incredibly easy to ship all you need is a box. Heck I have an S4 sway bar coming to me from another member, now that's a pain in the ass to ship.

If you ever get over your fear of shipping let me me know. [drive]

alexvanlewen
02-09-2015, 09:03 AM
Not true. I bought this kit from ebay and the core is really nice! I should've took some damn pictures, but compared to friends of mine who have FMIC's from big name companies and paid more than double than what I did.....they looked damn near identical!! With this kit, I did have to hack the shit out of the plastic bumper and put it on, off, on, off probably a dozen times in attempt to minimize cutting more than absolutely necessary, but it ended up fitting TIGHT, so tight I didn't even need to use any mounting brackets or anything. I kept the fog lights too which was a bonus. How do I know this kit is quality for my K04? Well....Dave from Motoza had my IAT's from the stock intercooler and this unit, and said the IAT's now look VERY GOOD for my setup, hence upgrading to the FMIC (this FMIC pasted below) does the job just fine, and for only $212 shipped.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/98-01-A4-1-8T-B5-Upgrade-Bolt-On-Front-Mount-Intercooler-Piping-Kit-Map-Sensor-/171012398917?hash=item27d1221f45

I know there's going to be the "naysayers" which is just fine, to each their own.....but my situation is proof enough that you don't have to spend a shit ton of money to get a quality FMIC for a Stage 1, 2, or even K04 setup on these vehicles. I'm sure there's also going to be people asking for graphs, numbers, etc. well I'm sorry to say I'm not going to bother Dave for that stuff, I know/trust our correspondence enough to know the results. I told him that this kit was cheap and I was hoping for the best, so to let me know what he finds from the logs, and to my surprise his response was nothing but positive. Not to mention it's taking him far too long to respond to my emails as it is right now. Ultimately, I took a chance on this kit and it paid off, so yea.

Best picture I could find to replicate what the core/fins looked like inside (not provided through Ebay seller's pictures and yes I tried acquiring before purchase with no luck). Looks very close & possibly even more "dense" to the photos CXRacing provides when I compare them.




http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af25/joebass3/photobucket-13350-1340246824072.jpg

Does this come with the MAP already welded? I have a welder, I'm just wondering. This looks good, never thought I'd say that about a Fastway Racer. Did you also get new T-Bolts?


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alexvanlewen
02-09-2015, 09:04 AM
Then you shouldnt of even told me you had one. It would be incredibly easy to ship all you need is a box. Heck I have an S4 sway bar coming to me from another member, now that's a pain in the ass to ship.

If you ever get over your fear of shipping let me me know. [drive]

Honestly a core would be easier than shit to ship


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pbcrazy
02-09-2015, 09:09 AM
Does this come with the MAP already welded? I have a welder, I'm just wondering. This looks good, never thought I'd say that about a Fastway Racer. Did you also get new T-Bolts?


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Replace all the t-bolts and silicone couplers with new quality ones. I didn't and two months later the 2/4 couplers were tearing and the t-bolts were rusted.

adam044
02-09-2015, 09:12 AM
Does this come with the MAP already welded? I have a welder, I'm just wondering. This looks good, never thought I'd say that about a Fastway Racer. Did you also get new T-Bolts?


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it says + map sensor so I think so, usually if it doesn't it won't mention anything about the Map.


Honestly a core would be easier than shit to ship


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Thank you! Haha

adam044
02-09-2015, 09:13 AM
Replace all the t-bolts and silicone couplers with new quality ones. I didn't and two months later the 2/4 couplers were tearing and the t-bolts were rusted.

What brand couplers did you go with?

MetalMan
02-09-2015, 09:18 AM
Does this come with the MAP already welded? I have a welder, I'm just wondering.

No, the MAP sensor bung is included but not installed. Will need to drill the piping and weld on the bung.

adam044
02-09-2015, 09:24 AM
No, the MAP sensor bung is included but not installed. Will need to drill the piping and weld on the bung.

Well there goes that kit.

pbcrazy
02-09-2015, 09:26 AM
What brand couplers did you go with?

http://www.siliconeintakes.com/
Couple straight and a hump hose

alexvanlewen
02-09-2015, 04:52 PM
http://www.siliconeintakes.com/
Couple straight and a hump hose

Wht's the piping size? Lets see some pics of the install! I wanna see what I'm getting myself into >:)

pbcrazy
02-09-2015, 05:01 PM
Wht's the piping size? Lets see some pics of the install! I wanna see what I'm getting myself into >:)

I used 2", I installed it 2 years ago and don't have any pictures (of the install anyway). It's really not bad once you get over the fear of trimming you bumper.

ray4624
02-09-2015, 05:40 PM
did you trim the bumper itself or just the support?
I didnt have to trim any plastic for the install of my Racetech kit.

pbcrazy
02-09-2015, 05:51 PM
did you trim the bumper itself or just the support?
I didnt have to trim any plastic for the install of my Racetech kit.

I didn't have to trim any of the support, just some plastic down around the outside lower grills (like 1/4" half-circle, 1.5" across)

adam044
02-09-2015, 06:10 PM
I had block out/decided not to do a FMIC but now this thread is back alive. FMIC on a ko3 though, eh...

ray4624
02-09-2015, 06:12 PM
^^waste of money IMO

If youre doing it for looks then thats cool but performance wise you dont need it.

pbcrazy
02-09-2015, 06:15 PM
^^waste of money IMO

If youre doing it for looks then thats cool but performance wise you dont need it.

It does look pretty nice for $200-300 lol, unless you're into that sleeper kinda thing.

adam044
02-09-2015, 06:27 PM
Not worth it. At least not right now. Especially if I'm going to buy a bike.

alexvanlewen
02-11-2015, 05:22 PM
Was poking around and found this.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-Audi-A4-1-8T-Quattro-B5-1-8L-Turbo-Aluminum-FMIC-Bolt-On-System/180919947789?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D29170%26meid%3D8c7a35848daf4313bd7681c36386 8519%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D1710 12398917&rt=nc

Looks like the MAP bung is already welded with a bigger core.

Mad Cow
02-11-2015, 05:28 PM
Was poking around and found this.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-Audi-A4-1-8T-Quattro-B5-1-8L-Turbo-Aluminum-FMIC-Bolt-On-System/180919947789?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D29170%26meid%3D8c7a35848daf4313bd7681c36386 8519%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D1710 12398917&rt=nc

Looks like the MAP bung is already welded with a bigger core.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that core doesn't look like it'll fit without hacking up the bumper rebar. Tubing looks pretty nice though.

pbcrazy
02-11-2015, 05:54 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that core doesn't look like it'll fit without hacking up the bumper rebar. Tubing looks pretty nice though.

It might fit, the core is only 2" thick which is the same as a raceland. You would probably still have to do some rather major cutting though

adam044
02-11-2015, 06:57 PM
1.75 piping though

viceprp
02-11-2015, 07:00 PM
It'll fit with some cutting of the cRash bar.

alexvanlewen
02-11-2015, 07:38 PM
1.75 piping though
That's what I'm saying