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R490
11-17-2014, 06:02 PM
They've got some pretty cool stuff, but I don't hear much about it good or bad.

http://www.motodyne.com/frames/audi_a412v.html

I'm specifically looking at the ported intake manifold, the bored throttle body, silicone wires and the MPT performance chip.

I'm already thinking about a K&N intake, but would really like some extra performance, I've also still got to sort out my coilovers. (I'm not interested in a 1.8T currently, so no opinions about that please.)

redline380
11-17-2014, 06:04 PM
Never knew they existed. I think I want to start a thread listing all the manufacturers of all the aftermarket parts.

Case in point- Those metal injector seats. I can never remember where they are from. Think Ill start that kind of thread in a little bit actually

R490
11-17-2014, 06:10 PM
Never knew they existed. I think I want to start a thread listing all the manufacturers of all the aftermarket parts.

Case in point- Those metal injector seats. I can never remember where they are from. Think Ill start that kind of thread in a little bit actually

That would be really awesome! I've found a couple of severely outdated lists both here and on some other websites. Most of which the links are long since dead.

Motodyne is unique, because they still care about the 12v [:)]

Silverstreak98
11-17-2014, 06:18 PM
All I've ever seen about Motodyne is negative, and complaints about them being scammers. This has been over the course of the past ten years, just a sampling here (http://www.audiforum.ca/general-audi-discussion-44/can-you-trust-motodyne-60918/).

I haven't seen a single person have a good experience with them. In my opinion, I would stay very far away.

R490
11-17-2014, 06:25 PM
All I've ever seen about Motodyne is negative, and complaints about them being scammers. This has been over the course of the past ten years, just a sampling here (http://www.audiforum.ca/general-audi-discussion-44/can-you-trust-motodyne-60918/).

I haven't seen a single person have a good experience with them. In my opinion, I would stay very far away.

I'm going to try and give them a call tomorrow. Their website seems put together well enough, but there is a ton of negative stuff and I can't really seem to find many people with their products successfully installed.

Bordom
11-17-2014, 07:10 PM
All I've ever seen about Motodyne is negative, and complaints about them being scammers. This has been over the course of the past ten years, just a sampling here (http://www.audiforum.ca/general-audi-discussion-44/can-you-trust-motodyne-60918/).

I haven't seen a single person have a good experience with them. In my opinion, I would stay very far away.
This. If take a stroll on audiworld, you'll see nothing but hate for these guys. All 12v owners will vouch for the compete unreliability of this brand. Those super chargers for the 12v never came in full kits and buyers had to go to court to get product

R490
11-18-2014, 04:29 AM
This. If take a stroll on audiworld, you'll see nothing but hate for these guys. All 12v owners will vouch for the compete unreliability of this brand. Those super chargers for the 12v never came in full kits and buyers had to go to court to get product

Yeah, I took a nice walk about audiword. They aren't exactly super popular, but that's just taking advantage of us 12v owners there.

We need to unite, and force PES to give us a sub $4,000 S/C unit or something.

Bordom
11-18-2014, 08:39 AM
The PES G1 had a 12v application but those kits are super rare

R490
11-18-2014, 01:42 PM
The PES G1 had a 12v application but those kits are super rare

I will pay good money if one comes up. The PES G1 sounds like vehicular intercourse.

fed0ra
11-18-2014, 01:50 PM
You should just put together your own kit. The only thing that would be a huge pain would be tuning, I don't know what kind of options you guys have.

R490
11-18-2014, 02:02 PM
You should just put together your own kit. The only thing that would be a huge pain would be tuning, I don't know what kind of options you guys have.

I have access to a shop, but I don't have access to a dyno or anything like that. If I could fab a kit together, I totally would.

Bordom
11-18-2014, 03:17 PM
I will pay good money if one comes up. The PES G1 sounds like vehicular intercourse.
Lmao! [emoji117] [emoji108]

You should just put together your own kit. The only thing that would be a huge pain would be tuning, I don't know what kind of options you guys have.
Eaton M62's can be found affordably but the issue is sourcing a short enough snout to fit behind the right headlight assembly.

I have access to a shop, but I don't have access to a dyno or anything like that. If I could fab a kit together, I totally would.
The only chance we have is the earlier MMS200 B4 chip that is programmable if I remember correctly. 034 sells them but for modified N/A 12v. I.e. ported throttle body, 3" S3 maf, cylinder head and intake manifold gasket matching/porting.

Otherwise Megasquirt can be used while retaining instrument panel functionality for boost.

I've been throwing around the idea of an LS3 swapped A4 while retaining Quattro. Otherwise 4.2 abz will drop right in with no modification

Mad Cow
11-18-2014, 03:30 PM
Converting to DBW and using S4 electronics would probably be the only decent non-standalone option. It'll be nearly impossible to find someone to tune the 30v Bosch ECU, and if you've got a 12v with the Hitachi ECU it just won't ever happen because nobody cares anymore. The PES tune is trash anyway, so many stories of running terribly and melting pistons.

R490
11-18-2014, 04:29 PM
Lmao! [emoji117] [emoji108]

Eaton M62's can be found affordably but the issue is sourcing a short enough snout to fit behind the right headlight assembly.

The only chance we have is the earlier MMS200 B4 chip that is programmable if I remember correctly. 034 sells them but for modified N/A 12v. I.e. ported throttle body, 3" S3 maf, cylinder head and intake manifold gasket matching/porting.

Otherwise Megasquirt can be used while retaining instrument panel functionality for boost.

I've been throwing around the idea of an LS3 swapped A4 while retaining Quattro. Otherwise 4.2 abz will drop right in with no modification

Can't find them on the 034 website, but would like to see what they've got. Never heard of Megasquirt, But I'll have a look.

About those Eaton kits, will they even work with the 12v?

Bordom
11-18-2014, 05:13 PM
Can't find them on the 034 website, but would like to see what they've got. Never heard of Megasquirt, But I'll have a look.

About those Eaton kits, will they even work with the 12v?

You won't find it there. It was one of those limited runs many years back. A few guys on Quattro world have them but also stupid rare.

Megasquirt is a "cheap" stand alone engine management system that's tunable by you, or someone who knows how.

Which eaton kits are you referring to?

R490
11-18-2014, 05:19 PM
You won't find it there. It was one of those limited runs many years back. A few guys on Quattro world have them but also stupid rare.

Megasquirt is a "cheap" stand alone engine management system that's tunable by you, or someone who knows how.

Which eaton kits are you referring to?

Ah, Gotcha. I'm just not sure how Megasquirt would work on the 12v. I'm trying to get a list of HP increases I can find though.

Found this on S/C Audi. Seems kind of risky, since my A4 is a DD though. Probably why I'm not trying to get an engine swap.

http://scaudi.com/sc/index.php?showtopic=3632&mode=threaded&pid=22478

Bordom
11-18-2014, 05:27 PM
Hank_moody on Quattro world has a 400hp 12v turbo running on Megasquirt. He's got some threads and one may explain how to write it up. I have the dyno chart on my thread for you to look at.

I've seen that that a hundred times and each time I look at it I have wild fantasies. But I figure for the same price I can have a 4.2 and that sexy v8 sound

R490
11-18-2014, 05:34 PM
Hank_moody on Quattro world has a 400hp 12v turbo running on Megasquirt. He's got some threads and one may explain how to write it up. I have the dyno chart on my thread for you to look at.

I've seen that that a hundred times and each time I look at it I have wild fantasies. But I figure for the same price I can have a 4.2 and that sexy v8 sound

I'll try to hunt one of those down, and I'll take a look-see at your dyno chart. If you have any links on hand, that would be great. But I'm just lazy, Haha.

I have so many wild fantasies about my car, All the potential... Like this car a lot though, Never want to sell it. Maybe do a swap later down the line, but the stock engine is perfectly fine for my needs.

pbcrazy
11-18-2014, 05:36 PM
I'm specifically looking at the ported intake manifold, the bored throttle body, silicone wires and the MPT performance chip.

I'm already thinking about a K&N intake

Hate to break it to you but you could but upgrading a 12v is a waste of money. Without a turbo/super build (on a 12v? Just no) you will never see your money's worth out of chips/intakes/porting.

R490
11-18-2014, 05:39 PM
Hate to break it to you but you could but upgrading a 12v is a waste of money. Without a turbo/super build (on a 12v? Just no) you will never see your money's worth out of chips/intakes/porting.

Hear that all the time. About half don't think porting or intakes will do anything, or are worth it. Then the other half say they will. No idea who/what to believe. I personally don't care about a bit of trial and error, as long as it's reversible.

Mad Cow
11-18-2014, 05:43 PM
Hate to break it to you but you could but upgrading a 12v is a waste of money. Without a turbo/super build (on a 12v? Just no) you will never see your money's worth out of chips/intakes/porting.

So much this. The 12v is a dog and absolutely useless for making power, it'll run forever and leak oil profusely but it won't make power without a serious struggle. For the price of supercharging it you could swap in a 2.7t and upgrade the turbos to boot. Then you'll have a whole lot more power than you could ever dream of with the 12v, you won't be reinventing the wheel, and it'll be a whole lot more reliable. The only reason to try making power with the 12, or hell even 2.8 30v is if you're really committed to proving a point.

R490
11-18-2014, 05:50 PM
So much this. The 12v is a dog and absolutely useless for making power, it'll run forever and leak oil profusely but it won't make power without a serious struggle. For the price of supercharging it you could swap in a 2.7t and upgrade the turbos to boot. Then you'll have a whole lot more power than you could ever dream of with the 12v, you won't be reinventing the wheel, and it'll be a whole lot more reliable. The only reason to try making power with the 12, or hell even 2.8 30v is if you're really committed to proving a point.

That's the thing. I understand that it isn't exactly fast. At all.

But still, I like the car and how reliable it's turning out to be. I'd like to preserve the reliability and see what I can do to it while retaining it's good qualities. I wouldn't be trying to make a point, I'd be trying to do something experimental and unique.

Bordom
11-18-2014, 05:56 PM
I'll try to hunt one of those down, and I'll take a look-see at your dyno chart. If you have any links on hand, that would be great. But I'm just lazy, Haha.

I have so many wild fantasies about my car, All the potential... Like this car a lot though, Never want to sell it. Maybe do a swap later down the line, but the stock engine is perfectly fine for my needs.

Yeah, was on my phone and was too lazy to jump on the computer, but then I wanted food!

Link to my thread:
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/605034-Bordom-s-The-Elder-A4-Intro-Issue-Build-Misc-Question-Thread

You'll see near the bottom of my thread the injector port castings are terribly restrictive. How we make 172 Bhp, I'll never understand.

12v holy grails in performance:
Intake Manifold Workshop:
http://12v.org/audi/imworkshop/

Cylinder Head Workshop:
http://12v.org/audi/headworkshop/

Here is the thread to the dyno:
http://forums.quattroworld.com/12vv6/msgs/2851.phtml

Here is where Hank converts his pre-facelift A4 into an RS4 with full engine build:
http://forums.quattroworld.com/12vv6/msgs/2525.phtml

^There's some serious 12v porn in there *EDIT*: I forgot to mention the Intake on this build "outflows factory S4 and RS4 intakes, only being beat by a hand ported RS4 unit"

Mad Cow
11-18-2014, 06:04 PM
That's the thing. I understand that it isn't exactly fast. At all.

But still, I like the car and how reliable it's turning out to be. I'd like to preserve the reliability and see what I can do to it while retaining it's good qualities. I wouldn't be trying to make a point, I'd be trying to do something experimental and unique.

You won't get reliable with a homemade supercharger kit running a homemade Megasquirt harness. And if your tune's not exactly perfect say goodbye to your pistons and/or rods. If you want reliable swap in a 2.7t, if you wanna do something unique then by all means stay with the 12v, but don't kid yourself into thinking it won't be a massive headache.

R490
11-18-2014, 06:06 PM
Yeah, was on my phone and was too lazy to jump on the computer, but then I wanted food!

Link to my thread:
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/605034-Bordom-s-The-Elder-A4-Intro-Issue-Build-Misc-Question-Thread

You'll see near the bottom of my thread the injector port castings are terribly restrictive. How we make 172 Bhp, I'll never understand.

12v holy grails in performance:
Intake Manifold Workshop:
http://12v.org/audi/imworkshop/

Cylinder Head Workshop:
http://12v.org/audi/headworkshop/

Here is the thread to the dyno:
http://forums.quattroworld.com/12vv6/msgs/2851.phtml

Here is where Hank converts his pre-facelift A4 into an RS4 with full engine build:
http://forums.quattroworld.com/12vv6/msgs/2525.phtml

^There's some serious 12v porn in there

Whoa, NSFW!!! That stuff looks awesome! Thanks for the links! Site is rendering strange for some reason which I can't explain.

The 12v is super unappreciated, I'd still like an engine swap. But that stuff looks awesome. [drool]

Bordom
11-18-2014, 06:11 PM
Whoa, NSFW!!! That stuff looks awesome! Thanks for the links! Site is rendering strange for some reason which I can't explain.

The 12v is super unappreciated, I'd still like an engine swap. But that stuff looks awesome. [drool]

No problem! Quattroworld has some, for lack of a better term, kinky post structuring system

R490
11-18-2014, 06:14 PM
No problem! Quattroworld has some, for lack of a better term, kinky post structuring system

Haha, That's normal?

After some reaserch, seems that the 12v can get up to about 205 Hp based on manufacturer claims.

This thing is the most assuring though: http://www.giacusa.com/products/software/stage_info.php?engine=2.8%20Liter%20&stage=Xplus&make=Audi_%AE&model=A4%20/%20S4%20/%20RS4%20%AE%20%20&submodel=A4%20%AE%20(%20B5%201997%20-%202001%20)&chassis=A4%20%AE&dynoplot=&hp=6%20-%209%20HP&torque=6%20-%209%20Ft/Lbs%20&chassis=A4%20%AE%20&id=15%20&rec_hw=exhaust%20&req_hw=

pbcrazy
11-18-2014, 06:16 PM
Whoa, NSFW!!! That stuff looks awesome! Thanks for the links! Site is rendering strange for some reason which I can't explain.

The 12v is super unappreciated, I'd still like an engine swap. But that stuff looks awesome. [drool]

In the time it takes you to read and perform these mods you can gone to work enough days to buy an s4 and keep your 12v as a daily. And the amount of money spent building it you can upgrade that s4 to be twice as fast.

Bordom
11-18-2014, 06:18 PM
Haha, That's normal?

After some reaserch, seems that the 12v can get up to about 205 Hp based on manufacturer claims.

This thing is the most assuring though: http://www.giacusa.com/products/software/stage_info.php?engine=2.8%20Liter%20&stage=Xplus&make=Audi_%AE&model=A4%20/%20S4%20/%20RS4%20%AE%20%20&submodel=A4%20%AE%20(%20B5%201997%20-%202001%20)&chassis=A4%20%AE&dynoplot=&hp=6%20-%209%20HP&torque=6%20-%209%20Ft/Lbs%20&chassis=A4%20%AE%20&id=15%20&rec_hw=exhaust%20&req_hw=

I've never seen that before, I think it's for the 30v however. I could be wrong, but since I have a 96 I'm screwed either way. Lol

Bordom
11-18-2014, 06:19 PM
In the time it takes you to read and perform these mods you can gone to work enough days to buy an s4 and keep your 12v as a daily. And the amount of money spent building it you can upgrade that s4 to be twice as fast.

Found a Santorin S4 for 2400 in Canada! I'm so close to getting necessary funding to pick it up!! [=(]

R490
11-18-2014, 06:26 PM
Found a Santorin S4 for 2400 in Canada! I'm so close to getting necessary funding to pick it up!! [=(]

Hooowwwwwwww? The cheapest S4 I've seen around these parts is $4,500 for a ripped seat, sketchy title package. I'd love me some good S4 though [:D]

Bordom
11-18-2014, 06:31 PM
Hooowwwwwwww? The cheapest S4 I've seen around these parts is $4,500 for a ripped seat, sketchy title package. I'd love me some good S4 though [:D]

It's a stage 2 6 MT with rebuilt block and timing already done! 320,xxx Km's on the clock! RIGHT IN MY HOME TOWN! If my student loans would come in and give me back my 4 months rent for school, I'D HAVE A NEW CAR!! [drool]

viceprp
11-18-2014, 06:34 PM
Exhaust and intake. Call it a day.

R490
11-18-2014, 06:34 PM
It's a stage 2 6 MT with rebuilt block and timing already done! 320,xxx Km's on the clock! RIGHT IN MY HOME TOWN! If my student loans would come in and give me back my 4 months rent for school, I'D HAVE A NEW CAR!! [drool]

Oooohhhh, That sounds just about perfect. If I'd ever emerge from my economic hellhole, a Zx-6R is my first order of business. Theeeennn an S4.

Bordom
11-18-2014, 06:39 PM
Oooohhhh, That sounds just about perfect. If I'd ever emerge from my economic hellhole, a Zx-6R is my first order of business. Theeeennn an S4.

Mmmm, Kawasaki

R490
11-19-2014, 02:35 PM
Mmmm, Kawasaki

Haha, *Licks lips*