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A1 A2 German
11-16-2014, 09:57 PM
With this great of results, this should be shared.

I can not slap an old oxidized dirty part on my car, and some times I'd rather have a used $280 OEM pump or starter (for a $100) opposed to new $145 non-OEM Chinese pump or starter, or x,y, z. The problem is getting it to a presentable state to install it, and sometimes it's just a matter of wanting to clean up your existing part before re-installing it. To do it right, parts need to be media blasted (sand/walnut shell blasted), but the problem is you don't have the down time and may need to drive that day. And a wire wheel pretty much sucks, it scores the piss of of the metal and you can not get into the nooks and crannies. And when you use a wire wheel, it looks exactly like you so, it looks like you used a wire wheel...as all the tiny corners and indented corners can never be reached. Basically flat spots look fair, but all corners and edges look like a*s. And you can always de-grease a part, put what about any rust and metal oxidation (leopard spots)? Well here you go. The kicker about the whole process is stated on the very bottom of this post.

Power steering pump before and after.

I need to note: I did not expect these results, so the real before picture was not taken...what's important to mention is my steering pump was on a pallet of parts from a salt state. It was in far worse condition as seen in this before pic and was basically physically shot, it looked like it was pulled from salt water, was heavily rusted, heavily leopard spotted, and was caked with fluids from neglect. To be honest, I didn't even want the dam thing, I just wanted to knock off some of the grease, tar and rust for test fits on a project and didn't want to contaminate the whole project as everything else had been freshly media blasted and powdercoated high gloss black. The pump was so bad I used a rag or towel to move it around as it was that bad.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/Blakelikesfood333/Audi%20Final%20Chapter%20Build/DirtySteeringPump1_zpsf8a9e16e.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/Blakelikesfood333/media/Audi%20Final%20Chapter%20Build/DirtySteeringPump1_zpsf8a9e16e.jpg.html)

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/Blakelikesfood333/Audi%20Final%20Chapter%20Build/Steeringpump1_zps2d2179ed.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/Blakelikesfood333/media/Audi%20Final%20Chapter%20Build/Steeringpump1_zps2d2179ed.jpg.html)
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/Blakelikesfood333/Audi%20Final%20Chapter%20Build/Steeringpump2_zpsa8be443e.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/Blakelikesfood333/media/Audi%20Final%20Chapter%20Build/Steeringpump2_zpsa8be443e.jpg.html)
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/Blakelikesfood333/Audi%20Final%20Chapter%20Build/Steeringpump3_zps334d810a.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/Blakelikesfood333/media/Audi%20Final%20Chapter%20Build/Steeringpump3_zps334d810a.jpg.html)


Oh yeah, the pics are at night, with no flash used.

The results were using a Dico brush wheel, and no thrills hand drill.

http://dicoproducts.com/nyalox.html

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/Blakelikesfood333/Audi%20Final%20Chapter%20Build/DicoBrush_zps3195bdaa.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/Blakelikesfood333/media/Audi%20Final%20Chapter%20Build/DicoBrush_zps3195bdaa.jpg.html)




The wheel is a fairly priced at $10, and can be had at pretty much any professional paint supply shop, and the pump, 15 years old in a salt state. It gets into every spot, and pulls the spotting right out of metal.

The kicker? Not only were no products used in any way, including fluids or metal polish, this process was not 2 hours of my time, nor 1 hour, or 30 minutes. Time? 10 minutes

coolgraymemo
11-16-2014, 10:01 PM
Now spray it with bedliner.

A1 A2 German
11-16-2014, 10:07 PM
Well played sir.

I will be happy to inform you there is no more p/u texture on my engine cover, intake, engine, etc, etc. That product did it's job for test fittings and protecting against the use of stainless steel line that scores metal, and numarious parts being pulled from being scratched and marked for other test fits. All satin black now.

BaseDrifter
11-16-2014, 10:13 PM
Wow, looks great. I'll have to pick one of these up and give it a whirl.

A1 A2 German
11-16-2014, 10:18 PM
Found a terrible pic from something else, you can see how bad the pulley was, it was so much rust is was caked rust:

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/Blakelikesfood333/Audi%20Final%20Chapter%20Build/Serpconversion1_zpse781bac2.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/Blakelikesfood333/media/Audi%20Final%20Chapter%20Build/Serpconversion1_zpse781bac2.jpg.html)

A1 A2 German
11-17-2014, 12:17 AM
Just whipped this out, it's my nightmare tb that won't come clean. I've spent hours on it, the problem being all the spotting is actually baked into the paint. On a flat spot, where you could drag a razor blade across, and pull up a flake, would reveal leopard spotting on the metal.


10 mins (needs one more pass but it's 1 a.m., so tomorrow)


http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/Blakelikesfood333/Audi%20Final%20Chapter%20Build/TB1_zps48296904.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/Blakelikesfood333/media/Audi%20Final%20Chapter%20Build/TB1_zps48296904.jpg.html)

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/Blakelikesfood333/Audi%20Final%20Chapter%20Build/TB2_zpsdcf11cf6.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/Blakelikesfood333/media/Audi%20Final%20Chapter%20Build/TB2_zpsdcf11cf6.jpg.html)

chris164935
11-17-2014, 01:08 AM
Which grit did you use?

Urtorsen
11-17-2014, 02:08 AM
If only of known about these rebuilding the calipers on the 24 yr old corrado


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Hatchman
11-17-2014, 03:30 AM
Looks like orange is 120 grit. They also sell it in grey for very course, and blue for polishing.

Mad Cow
11-17-2014, 06:08 AM
Amazing, gonna have to pick up a couple to do my TB and accessories. My motor was sitting outside on a pallet for god knows how long, it's just hideous.

SquishyPanda
11-17-2014, 07:24 AM
Wow I'm gonna have to try to find this.

melomandn
11-17-2014, 07:50 AM
Living in a heavy salt state I can't thank you enough for this discovery.

biketsai
11-17-2014, 08:00 AM
This would be perfect for cleaning up my turbo

rodgertherabit
11-17-2014, 08:25 AM
Polish all da tings!!!!!

Buying these for sure!

thanks bud!

Audifurdasleben
11-17-2014, 04:21 PM
You da man lol awesome find

ray4624
11-17-2014, 04:38 PM
I will definitely have to hit everything with these when I do a rebuild [up]

redline380
11-17-2014, 04:43 PM
Wow, these results are great. I can say it looks better than sandblasting.

Two questions- What is the RPM rating on them, like can I put it on an air grinder? And, is your name, OP, Blake Edwards? I find it highly coincidental that the customer testimonial on their site shares the same story you do. How did they get the testimonial up in one day?

A1 A2 German
11-17-2014, 05:01 PM
I put it in a non variable speed drill so I'll check out the rpm rating.

The disk states not to exceed ~2,500 rpm.....so an air grinder maybe outta the question.

And cool beans, after the thread I forwarded them a link to the Car Lounge thread with results, maybe they'll chime in.

bmos
11-17-2014, 06:06 PM
This looks awesome, I just ordered one!
I've been trying to figure out what I should use on my corroded auto bits and this looks absolutely perfect!

redline380
12-04-2014, 06:41 PM
Well, I went out and bought one, same one as OP. Long story short, I am less than impressed. This thing is on par with a wire wheel most of the time.

I bought one since I am cleaning up everything under the hood and tonight, I tries it out on my exhaust manifold, which is a t25 ATP. I tried the nylox out first, and it did alright. I switched to an abrasive disc on my air powered die grinder. That work like shit since the manifold is cast, and there are peaks and valleys everywhere. So, the abrasive disc didn't work well since it couldn't get down in the valleys.

I switched to the nylox, and it did better. Got all the rust off and made it good. But I thought, maybe I should try a wire wheel for comparison. Well, it performed the same, if not better. A little smoother finish and it seemed to lift the rust off easier. I will admit, the nylox never lost a shard while the wire wheel had a bunch of shit flying all over.

All in all, it depends if it is worth $9. Depends how long it lasts. It doesn't perform any better than a wire wheel. If it lasts ten times longer than 10 wire wheels, it might be worth it cause I'm sure I could get 10 wire wheels for $9. Its not a bad product, just nothing special in my eyes. I will be using this more in the coming weeks and months and will update if I think this review needs updating.

walky_talky20
12-04-2014, 07:10 PM
Red, the OP was cleaning up almost exclusively heavily corroded aluminum parts. It sounds like you were trying it on rusty cast iron? I'm not sure if that's exactly comparable.

redline380
12-04-2014, 07:18 PM
Red, the OP was cleaning up almost exclusively heavily corroded aluminum parts. It sounds like you were trying it on rusty cast iron? I'm not sure if that's exactly comparable.

Very fair assessment Walky. I will try it on aluminum tomorrow, perhaps the PS pump. I did give it a quick 2 second go on an aluminum member, and it worked good for those two seconds. Wish I wouldn't have rebuilt my rear S4 calipers already. Those would have been perfect to try this out on.

A1 A2 German
12-04-2014, 08:33 PM
I've never tried, used or own anything iron:

My head before and after: I'm not sure anyone would wire wheel the deck and valves:

Edit: Just so no confusion, note the valves are different. I got ahead of myself and started on my head with out doing a before pic, but looked exactly like this with black caked on carbon.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/Blakelikesfood333/Audi%20Final%20Chapter%20Build/1105065_zpskpjgkesd.jpeg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/Blakelikesfood333/media/Audi%20Final%20Chapter%20Build/1105065_zpskpjgkesd.jpeg.html)

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/Blakelikesfood333/Audi%20Final%20Chapter%20Build/20141118_092423_zps3ztnvre1.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/Blakelikesfood333/media/Audi%20Final%20Chapter%20Build/20141118_092423_zps3ztnvre1.jpg.html)

rodgertherabit
12-05-2014, 06:46 AM
3m makes the discs that are good to remove headgaskets and stuff, Bristleloc or some funky name. Worked great but I wanna give this a shot soo bad. Darn responsibilities haha

rockersteady
12-06-2014, 01:19 AM
I tries it out on my exhaust manifold, which is a t25 APR.

Inconel APR manifold? Damn, Carbide barely cuts inconel,

Man, I broke two machine shops getting work done (facing, stud removal and re-tapping threads) on APR manifolds! I should have learnt the first time.

OP. Thanks a bunch- this sure looks great, thanks for sharing!

redline380
12-06-2014, 09:22 AM
Inconel APR manifold? Damn, Carbide barely cuts inconel,

Man, I broke two machine shops getting work done (facing, stud removal and re-tapping threads) on APR manifolds! I should have learnt the first time.

OP. Thanks a bunch- this sure looks great, thanks for sharing!


I don't know why I said APR. I'm an idiot. I meant ATP, so cast iron not Inconel.

But I used this again last night on my turbo. Again, not thoroughly impressed. The wire wheel worked just as well, or better. The nylox left a bunch of deposits on the compressor cover, which was painted.

A1 A2 German
12-06-2014, 09:25 AM
I've never used this to strip paint (if thats what you're doing), this is great at removeing depoists and polishing the metal on raw materials.

Edit: And not really fair to compair this to a wire wheel, this is a polishing wheel, the compairable Nylox brush to a wire wheel is the Black (grey) brush.

redline380
12-06-2014, 09:38 AM
I've never used this to strip paint (if thats what you're doing), this is great at removeing depoists and polishing the metal on raw materials.

Edit: And not really fair to compair this to a wire wheel, this is a polishing wheel, the compairable Nylox brush to a wire wheel is the Black (grey) brush.

I really wanted to like this, and I still may if I find the right application. And I'm not trying to start anything by giving my review, just providing another subjective opinion.

A1 A2 German
12-06-2014, 09:47 AM
Lol, all good man, but if I ever see you on the street there maybe a thumb war [:D].

Yeah, cast is pretty tough and nasty, and sometimes paint and enimal can only be taken off by a professinal media blaster. I tried the Orange Nylox on paint, didn't do anything.....but tried it on the abs modual and now looks new! And no scratches, just looks like it's been polished. What I like about it is since it's soft it gets into all the corners and divots.

GrapeBandit
12-06-2014, 01:18 PM
I've never tried, used or own anything iron:

My head before and after: I'm not sure anyone would wire wheel the deck and valves:

Edit: Just so no confusion, note the valves are different. I got ahead of myself and started on my head with out doing a before pic, but looked exactly like this with black caked on carbon.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/Blakelikesfood333/Audi%20Final%20Chapter%20Build/1105065_zpskpjgkesd.jpeg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/Blakelikesfood333/media/Audi%20Final%20Chapter%20Build/1105065_zpskpjgkesd.jpeg.html)

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e259/Blakelikesfood333/Audi%20Final%20Chapter%20Build/20141118_092423_zps3ztnvre1.jpg (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/Blakelikesfood333/media/Audi%20Final%20Chapter%20Build/20141118_092423_zps3ztnvre1.jpg.html)
you did those valves too[confused]

ray4624
12-06-2014, 01:58 PM
Before pic isn't real


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A1 A2 German
12-06-2014, 02:36 PM
you did those valves too[confused]

Yes, they were even worse then the before pic I provided, the guy before me was running pig rich and/or had a glowing turbo which caked all the depoists on.

It took off everything, including the headgasket impression.

ray4624
03-23-2015, 02:17 PM
So i picked up one of the orange wheels and tried it on my intake manifold.
It didnt remove any of the leopard spots and did a pretty meh job over all.
were you using the orange? I was contemplating using some aluminum compound or something and see if that helped.
Maybe i just didnt put enough time into it.