JHM Stage 1 Review - The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.

[eliteplague]

First of all, I want to say the guys at the JHM have been quite helpful and professional in the way they have interacted with me. Special thanks to Zee, Dru, and Jake.

Now, let's talk about the tune.



The Good: The vehicle has truly become something else, it's as if it's not an A4, anymore but something a LOT better. It's quite more responsive, a good push on the gas pedal pushes me back, and my vehicle is completely stock except for an upgraded DV and K&N filter. How do I really describe the tune? Imagine this, you've been with the same girl for 2 years, things have started to get boring, it wasn't as exciting anymore. You guys don't have as sex as often as you used, you don't sext each other like when you first met, the passion just kind of dissipated, the relationship just isn't as exciting anymore, it's like you're married sort of deal. Now, what does tune did, it brought that excitement back. The passionate kinky everyday sex has come back, thing are getting super heated again, you're sending dirty texts to each other again while at work about how you're going to make amazing love to her when you guys get home, etc. you get the point. The car truly "woke" up.

So in order to test this I decided to go up against my friends APR Stage 1 2006 GTI (Automatic) vs JHM Stage 1 2006 A4 (Tiptronic/Quattro) in Mexico. Out of the 3 runs we did, I beat him on all 3.

The Bad: This is really strange, but my PSI only peaks at 14-15, and tapers down to 10-11. Could this because of the Torque Pro gauge I'm using? Or is this how the tune is supposed to be on Stage 1 Tip? The car certainly doesn't feel like it's getting that low of a PSI, I would figure a stage 1 would at least be peaking at 20 PSI and tapering down to 18.



The Ugly: Misfires, misfires, everywhere of the cylinder. So here's how this started, this is right after I tuned the car, I decided to take it for a quick spin, it was going alright until I got a check engine light when I went over 4000 rpm (car started shaking when I hit the accelerator). I plugged in my fault code reader and got P0304 (cylinder misfire detected), (Cylinder #4). So I decided to switch the coil from cylinder 1 to cylinder 4, and erased the fault code. I drove the car again and this time it was P0301 (cylinder #1 misfire), so at this point I knew it was the spark plugs/coils. I completely replaced that coil from cylinder 1 with a new coil/spark plug. And the car ran fine again, perfectly fine, until tomorrow.

I decided to drive it again today, testing this powerful tune, and guess what happened? P0301 came back on, but this time I received another code with it P0299.

Any idea what's going on regarding the PSI and cylinder misfires?


Overall, I'm pleased with the tune, I just wish I can sort this PSI problem out and cylinder misfire.

[audihere06]

Sounds like u may have a leak. The new higher psi may have caused it. Its not the gauge your using or you wouldn't have the low boost code. Check for leaks. Also have you replaced the pcv?

[eliteplague]

Sounds like u may have a leak. The new higher psi may have caused it. Its not the gauge your using or you wouldn't have the low boost code. Check for leaks. Also have you replaced the pcv?

I'll have to do that, might as well check the DV valve again. I've had the new one for 1 year now.

[mec]

Horrible review....This is mostly an erotic novel and problems with your car, has nothing to do with the tune, take care of the car and the car will take care of you.

[eliteplague]

Horrible review....This is mostly an erotic novel and problems with your car, has nothing to do with the tune, take care of the car and the car will take care of you.

Thanks for the input!

[mec]

Thanks for the input!

that's actually just advice ;) I'll give you my input later

[FraggyA4]

I thought this review was a description of you and mec's relationship on audizine.

[Jake@JHM]

Thanks for the review!

With added boost pressure it can be putting too much stress on old/bad plugs or coil packs. I would get those replaced as soon as you can. This could also be the reasoning behind the lower boost.

Jake

[Andrew149]

I thought this review was a description of you and mec's relationship on audizine.
I thought so too, Mec is always plugging his cable in his car and pleasuring her @_@

[eliteplague]

Update: Just took the car for another good run. I'm not getting any misfires at the moment, but my boost peak is still very low.


Going to try to do a boost leak test tomorrow.

[Andrew149]

Update: Just took the car for another good run. I'm not getting any misfires at the moment, but my boost peak is still very low.


Going to try to do a boost leak test tomorrow.
Have you replaced your pcv? From what I read it can drop your boost 1-2psi

[Jake@JHM]

Update: Just took the car for another good run. I'm not getting any misfires at the moment, but my boost peak is still very low.


Going to try to do a boost leak test tomorrow.

Where did you get your flash done? Can you PM your name so I can check which program(s) were flashed?

Jake

[mec]

I thought this review was a description of you and mec's relationship on audizine.

Negative.... I made a few jokes that got carried away and the PM's stopped :) But you know me i am always over the top in my jokes. And then there was that whole thing about she might be a dude.....and well that was that.

Denied my friend request so I'm pretty sure its a dude.

[JDillon15]

Negative.... I made a few jokes that got carried away and the PM's stopped :) But you know me i am always over the top in my jokes. And then there was that whole thing about she might be a dude.....and well that was that.

Denied my friend request so I'm pretty sure its a dude.

You aren't kidding anyone. Anything that's willing is about your level! ;D

[mec]

You aren't kidding anyone. Anything that's willing is about your level! ;D

You know the rules,...... I'll try anything once.

[Jake@JHM]

You know the rules,...... I'll try anything once.

That can be dangerous.


Oh yea, forgot to add the parts to buy.

Plugs: http://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/spark-plug-bosch-tri-electrode-bosch-heat-range-18t-20t-27t-p-686.html
Packs: http://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=07K905715F&x=0&y=0

[JDillon15]

That can be dangerous.

"Danger is my middle name"

[mec]

That can be dangerous.


Oh yea, forgot to add the parts to buy.

Plugs: http://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/spark-plug-bosch-tri-electrode-bosch-heat-range-18t-20t-27t-p-686.html
Packs: http://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=07K905715F&x=0&y=0

heat range 5 huh? I've heard having the correct spark plugs is super important with tuning, do you specifically recommend these for the jhm tune? That seems like a very specific plug.

[Jake@JHM]

heat range 5 huh? I've heard having the correct spark plugs is super important with tuning, do you specifically recommend these for the jhm tune? That seems like a very specific plug.

I highly recommend these yes. The are 1 step colder, effective, and very cost friendly.

[mec]

I highly recommend these yes. The are 1 step colder, effective, and very cost friendly.

Truth, that is a very good price on them, plus you've got that cam follower sale! time to stock up on maintenance parts.

Do you guys usually advise to inspect hte cam follower before upgrading? Any noticible difference in cam follower wear?

[Jake@JHM]

Truth, that is a very good price on them, plus you've got that cam follower sale! time to stock up on maintenance parts.

Do you guys usually advise to inspect hte cam follower before upgrading? Any noticible difference in cam follower wear?

Yup, stock up for sure!

What do you mean before upgrading? Upgrading what? Difference between what?

[mec]

Yup, stock up for sure!

What do you mean before upgrading? Upgrading what? Difference between what?

Do you recommend checking the cam follower before you get a JHM tune, did you notice accelerated cam follower wear with the JHM tune, or was it about the same?

[Jake@JHM]

Do you recommend checking the cam follower before you get a JHM tune, did you notice accelerated cam follower wear with the JHM tune, or was it about the same?

Tuning has no affect on cam follower wear. We cant what change the HPFP spring rate is with software or how hard the cam lobe is either. [;)]

[audimeister]

Similar issues (with boost levels, not the GF.)

Headed to JHM tomorrow. Will post up when solved.

[AudiTunes]

I am also having a boost issue, I'm unable to get past 15 psi peak - just found out today when I installed my boost gauge. I mean cars runs well on the tune, but it never spikes past 15. I'm wondering if it's the ECU flash file (I picked the one that was assigned to me, but I'm wondering if it's a faulty version), I noticed there is a huge list of versions.


I do not have any issues with cylinders misfiring, I'm using the iridium spark plugs that cost about 12 bucks from bosch. My coil ignition springs are from autozone.


Any thoughts? I also doubt it's a boost leak because a boost leak should at least let me spike at a high number and then drop very fast.

I'm 93 octane.

Do I need to change my spark plugs to copper? Or Buy new updated coil packs?

Would appreciate any info, especially from JHM staff.

[Jake@JHM]

I am also having a boost issue, I'm unable to get past 15 psi peak - just found out today when I installed my boost gauge. I mean cars runs well on the tune, but it never spikes past 15. I'm wondering if it's the ECU flash file (I picked the one that was assigned to me, but I'm wondering if it's a faulty version), I noticed there is a huge list of versions.


I do not have any issues with cylinders misfiring, I'm using the iridium spark plugs that cost about 12 bucks from bosch. My coil ignition springs are from autozone.


Any thoughts? I also doubt it's a boost leak because a boost leak should at least let me spike at a high number and then drop very fast.

Do I need to change my spark plugs to copper? Or Buy new updated coil packs?

Would appreciate any info, especially from JHM staff.

Hey man,

You can either have a boost leak or a faulty boost gauge. Audimeister above's issue was a faulty boost gauge that was reading lower than actual boost levels.

I recommended the FR5DTC plugs since they are one step colder, which is needed for higher boost levels.

http://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/spark-plug-bosch-tri-electrode-bosch-heat-range-18t-20t-27t-p-686.html

[AudiTunes]

Hey man,

You can either have a boost leak or a faulty boost gauge. Audimeister above's issue was a faulty boost gauge that was reading lower than actual boost levels.

I recommended the FR5DTC plugs since they are one step colder, which is needed for higher boost levels.

http://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/spark-plug-bosch-tri-electrode-bosch-heat-range-18t-20t-27t-p-686.html


Alright, will order them, they are quite cheap compared to the 12 dollars ones I have.

Do you recommend I also upgrade my coil ignition packs to version E or F?

[Jake@JHM]

Alright, will order them, they are quite cheap compared to the 12 dollars ones I have.

Do you recommend I also upgrade my coil ignition packs to version E or F?

How many miles do you have on them? If they are high mileage I would upgrade to the F, we stock them.

[jaycurn]

That can be dangerous.


Oh yea, forgot to add the parts to buy.

Plugs: http://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/spark-plug-bosch-tri-electrode-bosch-heat-range-18t-20t-27t-p-686.html
Packs: http://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=07K905715F&x=0&y=0

I also recently started having misfires in higher boost situations so just installed both the plugs and coils Jake recommended here this wknd and so far so good. Idle is somewhat smoother and she's purring like a litte cat! I only have a couple hundred miles on them so far and replaced the fuel filter as well, while I was at it so the car is still adjusting a little. Thanks Jake!!

[AudiTunes]

How many miles do you have on them? If they are high mileage I would upgrade to the F, we stock them.


less than 30 miles, I replaced all 4 before I tuned the vehicle. I'm just wondering if I should get the newer revision, maybe my autozone coil packs are preventing me to hit high peak because they are an old revision.

The coil packs I got from autozone look similiar to this

http://www.nltuning.com/shop/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/500x500/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/2/_/2.0t_coil_packs_2-2_2.jpg


I'll have to look into boost leaks, since I'm not getting any misfires.

[Jake@JHM]

I also recently started having misfires in higher boost situations so just installed both the plugs and coils Jake recommended here this wknd and so far so good. Idle is somewhat smoother and she's purring like a litte cat! I only have a couple hundred miles on them so far and replaced the fuel filter as well, while I was at it so the car is still adjusting a little. Thanks Jake!!

Sweet! No problem man!


less than 30 miles, I replaced all 4 before I tuned the vehicle. I'm just wondering if I should get the newer revision, maybe my autozone coil packs are preventing me to hit high peak because they are an old revision.

The coil packs I got from autozone look similiar to this

http://www.nltuning.com/shop/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/500x500/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/2/_/2.0t_coil_packs_2-2_2.jpg


I'll have to look into boost leaks, since I'm not getting any misfires.

Those should be okay, did you change your plugs?

Also, what boost gauge did you use? A customer today was using an ECS gauge and it was reading about 4psi below what it was really boosting. If you have VCDS, log boost and see what it comes out to, check for boost leaks, and fix the misfire because that will reduce boost as well.

[AudiTunes]

Sweet! No problem man!



Those should be okay, did you change your plugs?

Also, what boost gauge did you use? A customer today was using an ECS gauge and it was reading about 4psi below what it was really boosting. If you have VCDS, log boost and see what it comes out to, check for boost leaks, and fix the misfire because that will reduce boost as well.



I'm not getting any misfires like OP did, so I can't fix them. :P. Everything is fine on that end.

But I'm using the podi boost gauge.

In regards to spark plugs, I'm using "Bosch Platinum-Iridium", so should I switch to the copper ones you recommended? Because if that will fix the low peak, I'll buy them right
now.

And thanks for your help. Hopefully I can fix my problem and get the most out of this amazing ECU tune.

[Jake@JHM]

I'm not getting any misfires like OP did, so I can't fix them. :P. Everything is fine on that end.

But I'm using the podi boost gauge.

In regards to spark plugs, I'm using "Bosch Platinum-Iridium", so should I switch to the copper ones you recommended? Because if that will fix the low peak, I'll buy them right now.


Whats the heat range? Check for a boost leak. Often times they are there and not noticed until you add more boost.

[AudiTunes]

Whats the heat range? Check for a boost leak. Often times they are there and not noticed until you add more boost.

Heat range is 6, I believe. Is that bad?

Yeah, I'll definitely check for boost leak.

Appreciate your help, Jake.

[Jake@JHM]

Heat range is 6, I believe. Is that bad?

Yeah, I'll definitely check for boost leak.

Appreciate your help, Jake.

Bosch 6 is the OEM heat range, so I would go with the ones I linked. The are one step colder which is better for boosted cars.

[AudiTunes]

Bosch 6 is the OEM heat range, so I would go with the ones I linked. The are one step colder which is better for boosted cars.

Can you PM my account password for jhmmotorsports.com? I have deleted the email and forgot to write down the pass. I'll order the spark plugs as soon as I log into jhmmotors.. Or you can send it to my email, either is fine.

[Jake@JHM]

Can you PM my account password for jhmmotorsports.com? I have deleted the email and forgot to write down the pass. I'll order the spark plugs now. Or you can send it to my email, either is fine.

Click "forgot password" and it will send you a new one =]

[AudiTunes]

Click "forgot password" and it will send you a new one =]

Awesome.

Thanks, Jake.

[Jake@JHM]

No problem!

[AudiTunes]

No problem!

Placed the order, if that doesn't fix it, at least I have the correct spark plugs for a tuned car.

Now onto boost leak research!

[JDillon15]

That can be dangerous.


Oh yea, forgot to add the parts to buy.

Plugs: http://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/spark-plug-bosch-tri-electrode-bosch-heat-range-18t-20t-27t-p-686.html
Packs: http://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=07K905715F&x=0&y=0

Please stop finding things for me to buy. My wallet will thank you as well.

Do you guys recommend checking the gap on these before install? I bet you even have a link to that tool ;)

[Jake@JHM]

Placed the order, if that doesn't fix it, at least I have the correct spark plugs for a tuned car.

Now onto boost leak research!

Thanks for the order! These are great plugs! Let me know if you have any other questions.

[mec]

Soooooooooooo @eliteplague........whats up?

[audimeister]

You can either have a boost leak or a faulty boost gauge. Audimeister above's issue was a faulty boost gauge that was reading lower than actual boost levels.


This.

Also note that there was a code for coolant temp that was fixed by replacing the thermostat and temp sensor. After clearing and driving the car a fair amount yesterday, the ecu adapted and is now boosting stronger and far more consistently (seeing 16+ psi now, even w/my stingy gauge and stock cat I had to install to pass smog. Previous peak was 15 with an ebay TP.) Just a reminder that my old 1.8t was finicky when the temp sensor went flaky. If your car is boosting inconsistently, temp sensor could be the culprit. It was a very common problem on B5-6's.

I can now say that this tune is far stronger than my sedan was on GIAC 93 when I lived in Texas.

I should also mention JHM customer service has been great, and the RS4 OEM clutch/LWFW adaptor is the best clutch/flywheel combo I've had in all of my tuned B chassis cars. All of the benefits of a LWFW and stronger clutch and none of the drawbacks. Drives exactly like stock on hills and traffic, but picks up revs a bit faster, and gets my car one step closer to BT-ready, all for a great price. It's a perfect example of oem+.

Thanks, guys.

[AudiTunes]

Alright, so I replaced the spark plug with the new copper ones from JHM, and I still can't get past 14-15.3 psi. I also decided to replaced my ignition packs with the new revision "F" ones, and it still didn't do anything.

Next I downloaded that "Torque pro" app to make sure my boost gauge isn't faulty, and it was pretty accurate with my podi gauge. One thing I noticed that the torque pro app tells me is that my load is 100% at 15.3 psi. What does that mean?

Also I hit 14-15 psi at 3K RPM, after that it drops to 12-13 and stays there till about redline which it tapers off naturally to 10-11


My next option is to take it to an audi tuning shop and have them look at it, if it's not a boost leak, I'm wondering if it might be the particular ECU file version, or maybe I need wastegate adjustments.



Will continue to post updates.

[AudiTunes]

EDIT: Sorry for double post.

[Jake@JHM]

Alright, so I replaced the spark plug with the new copper ones from JHM, and I still can't get past 14-15.3 psi. I also decided to replaced my ignition packs with the new revision "F" ones, and it still didn't do anything.

Next I downloaded that "Torque pro" app to make sure my boost gauge isn't faulty, and it was pretty accurate with my podi gauge. One thing I noticed that the torque pro app tells me is that my load is 100% at 15.3 psi. What does that mean?

Also I hit 14-15 psi at 3K RPM, after that it drops to 12-13 and stays there till about redline which it tapers off naturally to 10-11


My next option is to take it to an audi tuning shop and have them look at it, if it's not a boost leak, I'm wondering if it might be the particular ECU file version, or maybe I need wastegate adjustments.



Will continue to post updates.

Did you verify you are on the tune file and not in stock mode? Check for boost leaks, like your diverter valve and intercooler couplers.

Jake

[AudiTunes]

Did you verify you are on the tune file and not in stock mode? Check for boost leaks, like your diverter valve and intercooler couplers.

Jake

It's definitely on the tune file, on my stock file I peak 10-11 psi. Car is also very responsive, compared to what stock was.

I'm thinking it's a huge boost leak somewhere, preventing me to reach peak PSI. I'm just wondering about the whole 100% load on 15 psi, on that app. Is that normal?

And my diverter valve looks fine. I'm using this one. Have about 30k miles on it.

http://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/images/B7-A4-20t-diverter-valve_06H145710D.jpg

Anyway, I'll take it to a shop and have the car looked at.

[thenofjboy]

Do a boost leak test before you take it to a shop. No reason to pay someone, yet… you can make DIY tester for cheap, just gotta search

Also check All the intercooler couplings as Jake already pointed out.

[Jake@JHM]

It's definitely on the tune file, on my stock file I peak 10-11 psi. Car is also very responsive, compared to what stock was.

I'm thinking it's a huge boost leak somewhere, preventing me to reach peak PSI. I'm just wondering about the whole 100% load on 15 psi, on that app. Is that normal?

And my diverter valve looks fine. I'm using this one. Have about 30k miles on it.

http://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/images/B7-A4-20t-diverter-valve_06H145710D.jpg

Anyway, I'll take it to a shop and have the car looked at.

So you KNOW that you have the updated DV or are you just assuming?

[pw211]

So here's a question:

How would you guys compare a K04'd B7 (lets say Unitronics tuning? Is there a better option?) to a JHM Stg. 2 B7?

[Jake@JHM]

So here's a question:

How would you guys compare a K04'd B7 (lets say Unitronics tuning? Is there a better option?) to a JHM Stg. 2 B7?

We have gone faster with a k03 in the 1/4 that people have with a k04. However, we don't have any stage 2 tunes out yet.

[pw211]

We have gone faster with a k03 in the 1/4 that people have with a k04. However, we don't have any stage 2 tunes out yet.

That's what I noticed haha. However, I'm curious how that translates across the board (driveability, reliability, etc.). Do you think that one of you in a K04'd car couldn't do a faster time than your "Beta" stage 2 (aka do you think that could be just driver ability)? Do you think the tuning out for a K04 is lacking then or just the turbo is the limiter there?

[LINDW4LL]

That's what I noticed haha. However, I'm curious how that translates across the board (driveability, reliability, etc.). Do you think that one of you in a K04'd car couldn't do a faster time than your "Beta" stage 2 (aka do you think that could be just driver ability)? Do you think the tuning out for a K04 is lacking then or just the turbo is the limiter there?
Don't be fooled by their quarter mile time. A well-tuned K04 car would still be much faster on the street, and faster on the drag strip if driven by the same JHM driver in the same conditions.

[Jake@JHM]

You compared a competitors K04/software to a JHM/KO3. A JHM/k04 setup will be faster than a JHM/k03 setup.

[Jake@JHM]

Don't be fooled by their quarter mile time. A well-tuned K04 car would still be much faster on the street, and faster on the drag strip if driven by the same JHM driver in the same conditions.

There is no fooling going on, My B7 k03 car has ran faster than any B7 k04 car to date.

[LINDW4LL]

There is no fooling going on, My B7 k03 car has ran faster than any B7 k04 car to date.
I didn't deny that.

Do you disagree with what I said in my post?




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[mec]

less arguing, more eliteplague. Or she might be Auditunes, we know how she likes to have multiple accounts.

[pw211]

Jake my understanding is you have no intention of k04 software though?

I think LINDW4LL is saying no k04 has beat a JHM car because there hasn't been a good enough driver. Stick a JHM guy in a well tuned k04 and it will win.. Which was how I honestly interpreted the drag results as well.

[LINDW4LL]

I think LINDW4LL is saying no k04 has beat a JHM car because there hasn't been a good enough driver. Stick a JHM guy in a well tuned k04 and it will win.. results as well.
Yes. If JHM took a well-tuned K04 car to the strip along with Jake's K03 car, and did runs on the same day with the same driver, the K04 car is obviously going to win.

The K04 is superior to the K03, plain and simple. JHM can tout their record quarter mile time, and that's fair; but under equal conditions the K04 car will easily beat the K03 car.





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[Jake@JHM]

I didn't deny that.

Do you disagree with what I said in my post?




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Depends what you mean by a well-tuned k04 car. All of the k04 results on the boards are right in line with their trap speed.

[mec]

Yes. If JHM took a well-tuned K04 car to the strip along with Jake's K03 car, and did runs on the same day with the same driver, the K04 car is obviously going to win.

The K04 is superior to the K03, plain and simple. JHM can tout their record quarter mile time, and that's fair; but under equal conditions the K04 car will easily beat the K03 car.





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Hmmmmmm I've got a friend with a GIAC k04 that has quite the balls......What do you say jake? Meet half way in southern california for a little head to head?

[Jake@JHM]

Yes. If JHM took a well-tuned K04 car to the strip along with Jake's K03 car, and did runs on the same day with the same driver, the K04 car is obviously going to win.

The K04 is superior to the K03, plain and simple. JHM can tout their record quarter mile time, and that's fair; but under equal conditions the K04 car will easily beat the K03 car.





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That REALLY depends on the k04 tuning. So far it looks like most OTS k04 tunes are pretty laid back.

[Jake@JHM]

Hmmmmmm I've got a friend with a GIAC k04 that has quite the balls......What do you say jake? Meet half way in southern california for a little head to head?

We are hosting Audi Night in a couple days at Sac Raceway..

[mec]

We are hosting Audi Night in a couple days at Sac Raceway..

that's not even close to half way.

[Jake@JHM]

Jake my understanding is you have no intention of k04 software though?

I think LINDW4LL is saying no k04 has beat a JHM car because there hasn't been a good enough driver. Stick a JHM guy in a well tuned k04 and it will win.. Which was how I honestly interpreted the drag results as well.

We may do something for the k04, since we do have some demand for it. I know we are going to be doing something bigger first though. However like I said the currently k04 1/4 mile times are right in line with their traps speeds, so a driver mode isn't going to magically make it faster.

[Jake@JHM]

that's not even close to half way.

Just saying.. you know where i'll be!

[mec]

Just saying.. you know where i'll be!

But would you guys ever be interested in racing a stage 1 or stage 2 k03 vs a GIAC k04? and willing enough to drive a few hours south to meet half way?

[pw211]

Well thanks for the insight to everyone. I continue to learn a lot in these "other" threads I keep hearing about

[mec]

Well thanks for the insight to everyone. I continue to learn a lot in these "other" threads I keep hearing about

what other threads? Also are you already on a k04?

[Jake@JHM]

Well thanks for the insight to everyone. I continue to learn a lot in these "other" threads I keep hearing about

que?


But would you guys ever be interested in racing a stage 1 or stage 2 k03 vs a GIAC k04? and willing enough to drive a few hours south to meet half way?

Honestly, probably not. We already know how well our software performance.

[mec]

que?



Honestly, probably not. We already know how well our software performance.

So then if you guys already know how well it performs do you believe a stage 1 jhm could beat a k04 giac? or a stage 2 could beat a k04 giac?

[Jake@JHM]

So then if you guys already know how well it performs do you believe a stage 1 jhm could beat a k04 giac? or a stage 2 could beat a k04 giac?

There is an insufficient amount of data to complete your answer.

[AudiTunes]

So you KNOW that you have the updated DV or are you just assuming?

I know I have updated DV, my old had a tear in it (orange rubber part), replaced it myself with no issues. That's why I said it has 30k miles on it, because my old one has been replaced, and my new one looks exactly like the picture I posted. I checked it out yesterday, and it looked fine.

Usually if it's the DV it throws the code, I believe. P0299. No codes here, and DV is fine.

Has to be boost leak.

[Jake@JHM]

I know I have updated DV, my old had a tear in it (orange rubber part), replaced it myself with no issues. That's why I said it has 30k miles on it, because my old one has been replaced, and my new one looks exactly like the picture I posted. I checked it out yesterday, and it looked fine.

Usually if it's the DV it throws the code, I believe. P0299. No codes here, and DV is fine.

Has to be boost leak.

Glad we are narrowing it down! Let me know if you find anything else. I know a torn PCV diaphragm can cause an internal boost leak.

[AudiTunes]

Glad we are narrowing it down! Let me know if you find anything else.

Will do.[up]

[thenofjboy]

Both Jake and Martin have a lot more knowledge about turbos than I do, as well as some others on this thread but the KO4 flows more than a KO3. It just how it is. It's been like that for years. My B5KO4 GIAC > my B5KO3 GIAC. And I only had the regular KO4 chip, not the aggressive chip GIAC offered. The KO4 can Def be pushed!

JHM might have the better trap and/ or quarter miles times (I think, but id have to read above about the qt times) but JHM also has launch control. Thats Hugeee- its gotta be so much fun! That's Def going to give them the leg up on a lot of races, esp against a K04 GIAC/UNI OTS tune.

Same driver, same conditions etc.....:
A good race would be JHM Stg1 w/o launch control vs GIAC/UNI/APR KO3 OTS
It would be a very good race JHM stg1 1/2 against of the few KO4 guys on here that have custom tuning.


thats my 2 cents! haha Its great to see what JHM is doing for the community and I'm really looking forward to see what they come out with....mmm meth

[pw211]

what other threads? Also are you already on a k04?


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Threads outside of FTLWTBDWICTW

[mec]

Both Jake and Martin have a lot more knowledge about turbos than I do, as well as some others on this thread but the KO4 flows more than a KO3. It just how it is. It's been like that for years. My B5KO4 GIAC > my B5KO3 GIAC. And I only had the regular KO4 chip, not the aggressive chip GIAC offered. The KO4 can Def be pushed!

JHM might have the better trap and/ or quarter miles times (I think, but id have to read above about the qt times) but JHM also has launch control. Thats Hugeee- its gotta be so much fun! That's Def going to give them the leg up on a lot of races, esp against a K04 GIAC/UNI OTS tune.

Same driver, same conditions etc.....:
A good race would be JHM Stg1 w/o launch control vs GIAC/UNI/APR KO3 OTS
It would be a very good race JHM stg1 1/2 against of the few KO4 guys on here that have custom tuning.


thats my 2 cents! haha Its great to see what JHM is doing for the community and I'm really looking forward to see what they come out with....mmm meth

in around a month or a month and a half I'll record some GIAC k04 vs JHM stage 1/2 and post it up. I have no doubt the k04 will win, from a dig or from a roll. the k04 is a beast, and I've seen both JHM and a k04 perform, physics is physics, the k04 just is a way better turbo.




Threads outside of FTLWTBDWICTW

Yeah, sorry man, atleast the FTWLTBDWITCW thread is funny, always something going on in there, out here, in the real world....its rarely exciting, usually just the boring ol shenanigans.

[Jake@JHM]

in around a month or a month and a half I'll record some GIAC k04 vs JHM stage 1/2 and post it up. I have no doubt the k04 will win, from a dig or from a roll. the k04 is a beast, and I've seen both JHM and a k04 perform, physics is physics, the k04 just is a way better turbo.





Yeah, sorry man, atleast the FTWLTBDWITCW thread is funny, always something going on in there, out here, in the real world....its rarely exciting, usually just the boring ol shenanigans.

Get that k04 to the track and make it official!

And yes, a k04 is better than a k03 in terms of performance capabilities. However, the car can only perform as well as the tuner makes it.

Also, make sure that k04 car isn't running meth too.

[Andrew149]

Get that k04 to the track and make it official!

And yes, a k04 is better than a k03 in terms of performance capabilities. However, the car can only perform as well as the tuner makes it.

Also, make sure that k04 car isn't running meth too.
Jake is your car gonna be at the track?

[pw211]

Get that k04 to the track and make it official!

And yes, a k04 is better than a k03 in terms of performance capabilities. However, the car can only perform as well as the tuner makes it.

Also, make sure that k04 car isn't running meth too.


why's that?

[Jake@JHM]

Jake is your car gonna be at the track?

I hope so!


why's that?

Unfair advantage for a comparison, unless you are wanting to purely see who's cars faster.

[Andrew149]

I hope so!



Unfair advantage for a comparison, unless you are wanting to purely see who's cars faster.
Awesome!!! More b7s the better

[LINDW4LL]

JHM's major advantage with the stage 1/stage 2 tunes is that they've found a way to add more fueling without the HPFP requirement; something other tuners were not able to achieve. That's what's allowing them to be faster than the other stage 1/stage 2 tunes, for the most part.

I wouldn't expect a JHM K04 tune to have such an advantage.

[mec]

JHM's major advantage with the stage 1/stage 2 tunes is that they've found a way to add more fueling without the HPFP requirement; something other tuners were not able to achieve. That's what's allowing them to be faster than the other stage 1/stage 2 tunes, for the most part.

I wouldn't expect a JHM K04 tune to have such an advantage.

Its not just the fueling, its that the tune is more aggressive while still being safe.

I think what happened is that as usual APR came to market first with their shitty underpowered tune, then you have GIAC, REVO, Unitronic, basically adding 10-20 hp over the APR benchmark, all of these tuners are always concerned with the newest of the new, so they never come back to retune a platform, all of their effort is in getting the newest b8 and b9 software going. So you end up with a sub par benchmark. The JHM tune for sure isn't black magic, its just a higher quality tune, and there is no doubt a K04 JHM tune would do the same thing as the k03 tune has done, blow everyone else out of the water. And I guess most people don't really care, but I' mjust super interested in teh technical aspect of the tune, how it does this and that.

[Jake@JHM]

JHM's major advantage with the stage 1/stage 2 tunes is that they've found a way to add more fueling without the HPFP requirement; something other tuners were not able to achieve. That's what's allowing them to be faster than the other stage 1/stage 2 tunes, for the most part.

I wouldn't expect a JHM K04 tune to have such an advantage.

It's a little more complicated than that lol. We are able to make more power with the fueling we have.

[LINDW4LL]

It's a little more complicated than that lol. We are able to make more power with the fueling we have.
Right. I'm not downplaying your tuning at all. You guys (or erm.... Kurt) are good. I don't doubt that- if you made a K04 tune; it could very likely be the most powerful OTS tune available.

I'm saying that if you hadn't found out how to get more fuel out of the stock HPFP, you would be much closer to the other stage 1/2 tunes since all of them are fuel limited. That's JHMs big advantage for the stage 1 file.



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[Jake@JHM]

Right. I'm not downplaying your tuning at all. You guys (or erm.... Kurt) are good. I don't doubt that- if you made a K04 tune; it could very likely be the most powerful OTS tune available.

I'm saying that if you hadn't found out how to get more fuel out of the stock HPFP, you would be much closer to the other stage 1/2 tunes since all of them are fuel limited. That's JHMs big advantage for the stage 1 file.



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I understand what you are saying. However, we are not magically making more fuel with the stock parts. We just have a better formula to making more power with what the stock hardware can provide.

Also, yes our calibrator is a genius and a highly respected tuner in the Audi industry. He is an employee of JHM and we work together to create our software.

[vce1232000]

there is no doubt a K04 JHM tune would do the same thing as the k03 tune
Hmmm[confused] You mentioned JHM KO4 tune[drool].... When[facepalm]

[mec]

Hmmm[confused] You mentioned JHM KO4 tune[drool].... When[facepalm]

ha, never probably. who knows. Jake just said that there was something else coming, but didn't elaborate, we can only guess.

[Charles.waite]

But us b7 guys LOOOOOOVE to speculate...

[mec]

But us b7 guys LOOOOOOVE to speculate...


he did mention one thing....

about a gtx42 with quad scroll....hmmm

[audimeister]

They're a tough one to crack. I even went to JHM and spent a few grand this month. Sitting there for hours, I couldn't get them to spill ANYTHING about what's next...