Over it.

[Tenedorr]

6 months, still don't know what the problem is. Officially over it. ANGRY. SO. ANGRY. So I researched Audi Executive and PR folks emails and sent them this. Probably 7 emails total. Also posted on their FB page. I'm started now and am not going to stop until I get some results. Here's the first email.

"I bought a 2007 A4 2.0 about 6 months ago. I didn't just buy a car, I bought an image. An idea. A dream, if you will. Should have been a sweet ride is what I thought. It has sucked super bad for probably 5 of the 6 months. Like the topic of conversation around town used to be "wow nice car Rob" but now it's "hey how's you car running haha" it's humiliating and it sucks. Now I'm not a super wealthy guy by any means but I dont mind spending money for great results, one of which would be to have a real nice car. Well since my ride has been running super shitty pretty much the entire time I've owned I decided to pull the trigger and bring it to a dealership. What a mistake! I got fleeced. Those assholes just put parts into my car until the trouble codes disappeared without diagnosing and fixing the root problem. It's like going to the doctor for cancer and they just give you something for the pain. FIX THE FUCKING PROBLEM! I don't get it I still don't even know what the problem is! Now I'm out a bunch of money AND I STILL HAVE A CAR THAT RUNS LIKE SHIT! Seriously my first car when I was 15 was a 1980 Datsun hatchback. I drove that thing into a pond. That car, after being driven into a pond, still ran better than my car. I am so upset, I feel so BETRAYED by Audi, I don't even know what to do. I drive this car, this "shiny thing" and it drives worse than a Ford Escort. I used to drive a 1998 Ford Explorer and not a day goes by that I don't wish I had bought another on of those instead. So anyway rant aside I want some frigging assistance from AOA. Man the fuck up guys. I bought this car with certain expectaions and have been SO LET DOWN. Do you know how bad this feels? To have a car where I'd rather walk than drive the fucking thing? I want you guys to say "Yes Robert, we will take your car and make it right. Drop it off to anyplace other than Thompson and we will take care of you" instead of this bullshit frigging run around I've been getting. PLEASE!"

[FraggyA4]

What are the symptoms? Sorry if I missed it.

[Tenedorr]

The RPM's surge at cruising speed. There is play in the gas pedal before it actually takes off. When I put in sport or even in Drive at higher RPM's it will accelerate rough then buck and quit until I let off the gas. It drives horrible. I actually almost got in an accident trying to pass an 18 wheeler and halfway through it quit and there was oncoming traffic. It just unreal. I've dumped thousands into this and still it sucks.

[Axis]

If you're not doing the work yourself, go to the regionals section of the forums and find a good indy shop near you.

[dalmation53]

When things like this happen sell that bitch an get a new one. Problem solved i had a steering wheel vibration on my mazda 3 for 3 years i changed everything you can think off an it was still there. Got mad after 3 years sold that bitch an got the audi. Some cars just have problems that cannot be solved due to numerous things. Spend 3k trying to fix it or spend 3k and get a new one. Your call.

[FraggyA4]

The RPM's surge at cruising speed. There is play in the gas pedal before it actually takes off. When I put in sport or even in Drive at higher RPM's it will accelerate rough then buck and quit until I let off the gas. It drives horrible. I actually almost got in an accident trying to pass an 18 wheeler and halfway through it quit and there was oncoming traffic. It just unreal. I've dumped thousands into this and still it sucks.

Sounds like a problem with the TCM and ECU. Mostly the TCM.

[dackler]

So you wrote emails to people telling them you hate the car and it drives "shitty" yet you fail to even mention the actual problems the car is having? You could have been far more elaborate on what problems you were having and the "solutions" you were offered. Providing details on those things would have made your email sound less childish.
Good luck getting some help. And hopefully Audi will extend a hand as well, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

[Tenedorr]

The thing you dont know is that I have been trying to be civil with these people for 5 months now. They keep saying "bring it to a dealer" ao I brought it to a dealer. They replaced both fule pumps, filter, sensors, sent me on my way $2000 later. Did not solve the issue. They didn't even test drive it. This isn't the first email I sent I guess I should have mentioned that. I have been email, calling, going to dealerships the ENTIRE time I've owned this car it sucks I'm pissed and they are going to hear it now. And yeah, it does suck bad.

[Tenedorr]

Apologies for the poor spelling. I'm angry typing.

[FraggyA4]

I bet the car was built on a monday after octoberfest

[drumnjuny]

cars suck. get a motorcycle that's what i did.

[Operator]

If you're not doing the work yourself, go to the regionals section of the forums and find a good indy shop near you.

BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hadn't driven my car for 9 months because it was at the dealer getting troubleshot by them and Audi. Sent it to an indy shop, and in less than 4 hours I had a fix. That's not to say all dealers will foul, but at some point, you may need to try something else.

[Tenedorr]

I have gone the indy route. One guy says ECU. One guy says there is no problem. Cleared codes and drove it for 150 miles trouble free and code free. Seriously what the hell?

[Tenedorr]

I am also on my 3rd hpfp and 2nd lpfp.

[Chrisw023]

How many miles are on the car?

[drumnjuny]

at some point, you may need to try something else.

QFT. if it makes u feel better i struggled for a long time with my car and i'm still not sure if it runs right lmao

and i really wanted to set it on fire / drive it off a cliff

and 90% of the time i would just daydream about punching babies.





oh and everyone still asks and is still surprised when i say yep my car is indeed running haha.

[Tenedorr]

QFT. if it makes u feel better i struggled for a long time with my car and i'm still not sure if it runs right lmao

and i really wanted to set it on fire / drive it off a cliff

and 90% of the time i would just daydream about punching babies.





oh and everyone still asks and is still surprised when i say yep my car is indeed running haha.

It's hilarious and sad at the same time. Seriously the first thing people say when they see me is "How's the car running"

[mec]

So you wrote emails to people telling them you hate the car and it drives "shitty" yet you fail to even mention the actual problems the car is having? You could have been far more elaborate on what problems you were having and the "solutions" you were offered. Providing details on those things would have made your email sound less childish.
Good luck getting some help. And hopefully Audi will extend a hand as well, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

This is true.

[Tenedorr]

How many miles are on the car?

at this point it's got 92k I bought it with 82k it's been like this for 8k of those 10k I know no one likes a complainer but I just don't know what to do anymore? I mean seriously I've brought it to three different mechanics and all they've done is take my money. No resolutions. I can't sell it because I financed it and am unable to pay the loan off. I can't imagine I'm the first person this has happened to I'm really hoping that someone will see one of my hundreds of posts and know what direction to go in. I know that Audi isn't going to do shit this was more of a fuck it email but I want them to get a taste of how I feel.

[Tenedorr]

This is true.

No it isn't. I have a case file with Audi and rapport. I have tried being patient. This is the latest e-mail out of probably 70 throughout the course of several months.

[Tenedorr]

Mec you know I've been having these same issues off and on the entire time I've owned the car you have commented on some of my posts offering resolutions, all of which were solid ideas.

[audihere06]

How much are the rpm surging? I've actually heard of the bucking problem before. Could be a bad diverter valve, pcv, maybe coils, carbon buildup. As for the trans are you quattro or fwd? Could u get a list of the codes.

[mec]

No it isn't. I have a case file with Audi and rapport. I have tried being patient. This is the latest e-mail out of probably 70 throughout the course of several months.

I'll tell you right now as a business owner. I have received e-mails comparable to what you just sent. "Shitty" and "sucks" are great keywords for your e-mail to be sent right into my trash bin.

You are upset, we get it. You want adult help? Then Communicate like an adult, not a 16 year old that is upset that the world is unfair.

I'm sure this isn't what you want to hear, you'll probably get upset, but hey you always need someone to realign your expectations, you're not getting help from AoA, not with that letter.

What you've described (vaguely) sounds like a manifold leak, causing issues with the idle stabilization system, or more likely your transmission is on its way out.

Going to the dealer and being uninformed is as much your fault as it is the dealer's. You want to point a finger? look to yourself. You handed your car over to someone, without even being informed. Ask questions, do your own research, invest in a VCDS, or borrrow a local one.

In your example about Cancer and a doctor. You took the pills and never even asked what they do and what they cured. You never bothered to hop online and see if your symptoms perhaps didn't require the need for the prescription the doctor issued.

You can complain online all day about it, but the truth is that won't fix a thing, you need to settle down, get the resources and tools to fix the car. Look at it this way....you said it yourself, you are 6 months into ownership with 5 months of issues...and you don't even know what the issue is. That's like you being 5 months sick, and not even knowing what you have. Get diagnosed.

[mec]

Mec you know I've been having these same issues off and on the entire time I've owned the car you have commented on some of my posts offering resolutions, all of which were solid ideas.

I know. I don't mind helping, but I keep seeing you make posts about how unhappy you are and how terrible the car is and how betrayed you are. And thats not going to get you anywhere. I'm not telling you this to put you down, I'm telling you this so that you can stop it and do something productive. Like learn to fix it on your own, or sell the car and move into something that will make you happy.

[Tenedorr]

Fair enough. I've got nothing but respect for you Mec. I did bring for diagnosis after describing the problems and got 3 different solutions. From my experience being management when someone takes the time to write a pissed off letter like this and I see the history going back 5 months then I do something about it. People that complain to the waiter don't get any resolution. People that complain to the GM do. I have been TRYING to get a diagnosis and it's not happening. I have tried to ask questions and watch whats going on and have been accused of "hovering." I have also bought tools and done work myself but I am no mechanic. I bought a code scanner and it wouldn't communicate with my car. What the hell I can't win here. I've been trying nice and getting the same bullshit results.

[mec]

Fair enough. I've got nothing but respect for you Mec. I did bring for diagnosis after describing the problems and got 3 different solutions. From my experience being management when someone takes the time to write a pissed off letter like this and I see the history going back 5 months then I do something about it. People that complain to the waiter don't get any resolution. People that complain to the GM do. I have been TRYING to get a diagnosis and it's not happening. I have tried to ask questions and watch whats going on and have been accused of "hovering." I have also bought tools and done work myself but I am no mechanic. I bought a code scanner and it wouldn't communicate with my car. What the hell I can't win here. I've been trying nice and getting the same bullshit results.

code scanner is probably s cheapo. get someone local with VCDS to scan your engine and tcu

[trj]

OP, If I was AoA and I read that email, I would not even bother to reply and mark your address as spam. I get you are frustrated, but if you are writing a complain, then respect the organization which might provide a resolution. The words you used are unacceptable in a professional environment.

My advice (not sure if you have done it): Talk to AoA in person, register a case and they will provide you a case number. Inform what happened in detail over the phone and write a supplemental email with all the details along with the dates, miles, dealership, labor and parts that were replaced. And tell them how it didn't resolve the issue. If AoA were to do anything then they will direct you to (possibly another) dealership and communicate with the dealership as well on how they want to handle the issue. You may want to bring up how unsatisfied you are with the dealership (current) work so they can look into it.

Hopefully, you get your car fixed or buy a car that will have less/no problem. I have one final advise: If you want a worry free life, buy a car with full warranty, then you know you will be taken care of if any issues arise. Buying a used car is always a gamble. You either end up fixing PO's mess ups or inherit the problems that PO couldn't fix.
Good luck my friend.

[mec]

OP, If I was AoA and I read that email, I would not even bother to reply and mark your address as spam. I get you are frustrated, but if you are writing a complain, then respect the organization which might provide a resolution. The words you used are unacceptable in a professional environment.

My advice (not sure if you have done it): Talk to AoA in person, register a case and they will provide you a case number. Inform what happened in detail over the phone and write a supplemental email with all the details along with the dates, miles, dealership, labor and parts that were replaced. And tell them how it didn't resolve the issue. If AoA were to do anything then they will direct you to (possibly another) dealership and communicate with the dealership as well on how they want to handle the issue. You may want to bring up how unsatisfied you are with the dealership (current) work so they can look into it.

Hopefully, you get your car fixed or buy a car that will have less/no problem. I have one final advise: If you want a worry free life, buy a car with full warranty, then you know you will be taken care of if any issues arise. Buying a used car is always a gamble. You either end up fixing PO's mess ups or inherit the problems that PO couldn't fix.
Good luck my friend.

great advice!

[audihere06]

How about your work orders from the dealer? Do they list the codes?

[Tenedorr]

OP, If I was AoA and I read that email, I would not even bother to reply and mark your address as spam. I get you are frustrated, but if you are writing a complain, then respect the organization which might provide a resolution. The words you used are unacceptable in a professional environment.

My advice (not sure if you have done it): Talk to AoA in person, register a case and they will provide you a case number. Inform what happened in detail over the phone and write a supplemental email with all the details along with the dates, miles, dealership, labor and parts that were replaced. And tell them how it didn't resolve the issue. If AoA were to do anything then they will direct you to (possibly another) dealership and communicate with the dealership as well on how they want to handle the issue. You may want to bring up how unsatisfied you are with the dealership (current) work so they can look into it.

Hopefully, you get your car fixed or buy a car that will have less/no problem. I have one final advise: If you want a worry free life, buy a car with full warranty, then you know you will be taken care of if any issues arise. Buying a used car is always a gamble. You either end up fixing PO's mess ups or inherit the problems that PO couldn't fix.
Good luck my friend.

Thank you. What you described is the route I have gone and now this is where I am. This was me being done with AOA and thinking maybe this email is so absurd that it will get attention. I read reviews of the restaurants I run daily and as much as I love the great reviews these are the ones that get my attention. The ones that get immediate attention are the ones like this that go to my boss. As far as the warranty goes yeah sure that'd be saving me some money but I don't care about the money I just want it fixed. The reason I am so angry about this is I have done everything right. I had an issue. I went to Thompson Audi for diagnosis. I went back to have them repair it. The issue wasn't resolved. I contacted AOA. They said bring it back to the dealer. I did. The dealer put another $1200 into my car. No resolution. Contacted AOA. They said bring it back to the shop. Do you see the pattern here?

[naiku]

I'll tell you right now as a business owner. I have received e-mails comparable to what you just sent. "Shitty" and "sucks" are great keywords for your e-mail to be sent right into my trash bin.

This x 100.

OP I can understand being frustrated with your car (and with Audi) but you sound like you did no research into the problem at all. I typed "surging" into the search box here, and got this thread:

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/469922-RPM-FLUCTUATION-So-common-there-s-a-TSB-on-it?highlight=surging

Which has a link to a TSB that addresses the issue, and then this thread:

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/406280-Finally-found-the-problem-

Which has a possible cheap fix from a well respected member here. Now I am not saying that this is absolutely your problem, but if you had gone to the dealer armed with that TSB, or even to an independent shop, or tried the DIY in the 2nd thread, you would have saved yourself a bunch of headache.

Good luck, I hope you get your car fixed, I genuinely do, I hate when mine does not run right for some annoying reason. Before sending any emails though, take a deep breath, no one likes being talked to like they are garbage, call AoA, be polite on the phone and you may get somewhere.

[drumnjuny]

yeah i wasn't tryna beat u down further but your approach has pretty much ended any chance that AoA will help you haha...

bottom line is with a car, shit is hard to diagnose. there are no gurus, no shop or dealership you take it to will know instantly what's wrong... its just how it is with 1000 moving parts and complex software and hardware in a very complex machine with lots of failure points.

best you can do is replace things, run logs, and check codes and see if anything helps. that's why this forum exists - so that if you have a similar problem to someone else you can try what fixed their car. most dealerships will only go off their own experience so you're hoping that mechanic or service guy set to your car has had that exact problem happen to him before.

taking it back more than once to the same shop is a waste of time unless they are going to do work for free - if they can't figure it out on the first go around, then the chance they will figure it out (vs randomly swapping things and hoping it fixes it) is pretty low on the second go around. just my 2 cents, FWIW not everyone will agree.

[drumnjuny]

also i have jb welded over that exact valve thing that naiku's thread link points towards. it didnt do shit to help my problem i was trying to solve. lmao.

[B7Joe]

mec has just given you a gift. Accept it. Inform yourself and start fresh.

I empathize with you, I do. But buying any car, especially a relatively high mileage one is a crap shoot, even when you exercise due diligence.

And please keep this romantic idea that you were buying an "image" and a "dream" to yourself as it makes you seem like a naive teenager. Trust me on that one.

Live and learn. Best of luck to you.

[trj]

Thank you. What you described is the route I have gone and now this is where I am. This was me being done with AOA and thinking maybe this email is so absurd that it will get attention. I read reviews of the restaurants I run daily and as much as I love the great reviews these are the ones that get my attention. The ones that get immediate attention are the ones like this that go to my boss. As far as the warranty goes yeah sure that'd be saving me some money but I don't care about the money I just want it fixed. The reason I am so angry about this is I have done everything right. I had an issue. I went to Thompson Audi for diagnosis. I went back to have them repair it. The issue wasn't resolved. I contacted AOA. They said bring it back to the dealer. I did. The dealer put another $1200 into my car. No resolution. Contacted AOA. They said bring it back to the shop. Do you see the pattern here?

Escalate - Escalate - Escalate. As you know, the higher you escalate, more power the higher level authorities have to look into your problem. I have worked long enough in technical support field for a giant organization to know what powers the higher level managers have. Talk to the owner of the dealership, talk to someone higher at AoA. Tell them to give you a loaner while your car is being worked on till it gets fixed. If it takes 6 months, let it be you still have a loaner.
If you want to take it to an indy, and your issue gets resolved. You might want to ask for a refund, AoA has the power to do that if you provide them with proper receipt. DO NOT threaten to sue them, they have lawyers sitting there drinking coffee forever just for cases like this.

Hopefully, it will be a fixed or you will have to sell it or just learn to live with it. I can relate with your frustration because I have an older BMW and this B7. There is always something wrong with one of them. I have learnt to live with them. My neighbors always ask, what happened to your car again? My answer is "nothing, just killing time".

[drumnjuny]

if you don't want to diagnose problems, buy a japanese car. fact.

[drumnjuny]

(shit i probably will)

[ignus99]

(shit i probably will)

NOOOOOOOOOOOO....

Well... ok, yes. But you have to promise us that it will make you happy.

[drumnjuny]

oh i'll be sitting on my b7 tambien

[Tenedorr]

I was looking into an Infiniti M35 but it got bought before I pulled the trigger. Pretty dope car but I liked the idea of an Audi where I live a lot more. I know I'll be back in love with it when/if this ever gets resolved.

[Obsidian]

You may want to go look into a WRX or something more novice friendly when it comes to mechanical knowledge and reliability.

[TheWaterboy]

You may want to go look into a WRX or something more novice friendly when it comes to mechanical knowledge and reliability.

+1 to this. I bought and rebuilt a Legacy after owning my B5. Its almost like child's play. Cheap too.

[Tenedorr]

Hindsight is 20/20 besides Audi is a stellar product I just have an unusual problem and want it dealt with. Well mission accomplished I was acknowledged by Brad Stertz, Scott Keogh and Andrew Lipman. I got their attention and separated myself from the masses which was the target of the e-mail. I also apologized for the language of the e-mail and assured that I would be much easier to deal with than my e-mail would lead them to believe. I'm really not that much of an asshole but sometimes a man needs to make a little noise to get the ball rolling.

[trj]

^ yay. Now let them fix the damn car. lol. And sleep peacefully.

[AKO]

I thought you said those relays helped and your issue had gone away?

[Tenedorr]

That's what I thought until the first time I went to pass an 18 wheeler and floored the car. It quit mid pass. Now the RPMs are surging, the gas pedal feels slow to respond and it's bucking and quitting at 3/4 throttle or more.

[Shanster]

OP, sorry to hear about your issues you're having.

Any misfires?

[Tenedorr]

Negative

[mec]

$20 says you have several TCU and ECU codes. $20 also says you should buy a VCDS.

[allstock]

Same ^ I sense a possible TCM reflash in order.

[LINDW4LL]

Tenedorr, it sounds like you bought a lemon.

Honestly, if it's bucking that bad you have to have codes. Buy a VAG-COM cable, they don't depreciate.

[kegobeer]

Did you check the TB and gas pedal, as I recommended in your other post?

[B-Time]

The RPM's surge at cruising speed. There is play in the gas pedal before it actually takes off. When I put in sport or even in Drive at higher RPM's it will accelerate rough then buck and quit until I let off the gas. It drives horrible. I actually almost got in an accident trying to pass an 18 wheeler and halfway through it quit and there was oncoming traffic.


Almost sounds like a CVT issue. Which transmission do you have? FWD or quattro?

[Tenedorr]

Quattro

[audihere06]

Sounds like the torque converter isn't locking up. Someone else had theirs replaced by Audi. But a good flush and filter could also do the trick.

[audihere06]

Try searching for the bucking issue as well I swear I think I've seen it on here before.

[Tenedorr]

It's not bucking so much as power loss. It's sleight power loss a few times then it just is complete until I let off the gas pedal. Today it was about 28'F and the car performed fine. No RPM surge, no power loss, the gas pedal was responsive with no play.

[Tenedorr]

Today was the exception to the rule. Typically the rpm is pulsing under normal easy driving conditions. Under acceleration it either goes away or it's not noticeable. Under nearly WOT it seems to lose power completely. It doesn't feel like the tranny is slipping it feels more like im flooding out the engine or something, it just dies until I let off the gas pedal then everythings back to normal. Idk if it's rich or lean, I'm going to take a peek at the plugs and see what they look like shortly. I have replaced hpfp, lpfp, plugs, coils, fuel filter. I did drive it for a few weeks in limp mode.

[4rings5stars]

It's not bucking so much as power loss. It's sleight power loss a few times then it just is complete until I let off the gas pedal. Today it was about 28'F and the car performed fine. No RPM surge, no power loss, the gas pedal was responsive with no play.

This won't be an issue. There's no cable, drive by wire now.

Too bad you weren't closer to CT. I'd scan it for you. There's def something cutting power and without the vcds, you have know ides of knowing what and why.

You driving and someone shotgun logging, plus you seem to be able to duplicate it easily, and you'll figure it out in short order

[80sGuy]

Check the air hose thoroughly. A minor leak can cause bucking which makes one think it's the transmission. While you're at it, see if the MAF is gummed up.
It's not bucking so much as power loss. It's sleight power loss a few times then it just is complete until I let off the gas pedal. Today it was about 28'F and the car performed fine. No RPM surge, no power loss, the gas pedal was responsive with no play.

[Tenedorr]

This won't be an issue. There's no cable, drive by wire now.

Too bad you weren't closer to CT. I'd scan it for you. There's def something cutting power and without the vcds, you have know ides of knowing what and why.

You driving and someone shotgun logging, plus you seem to be able to duplicate it easily, and you'll figure it out in short order

I appreciate the vote of confidence! I really hope so. I think I should have said unresponsive instead of play. I'm going to bring it back to my closest mechanic and ask him to scan the car and see what I've got for codes. Will report back after and until then have a fine weekend gentleman. Thank you again for all the help.

[4rings5stars]

I appreciate the vote of confidence! I really hope so. I think I should have said unresponsive instead of play. I'm going to bring it back to my closest mechanic and ask him to scan the car and see what I've got for codes. Will report back after and until then have a fine weekend gentleman. Thank you again for all the help.

Roger that. Good luck

[Tenedorr]

So I brought it to a mechanic friend to check codes he said he didn't have the right software but he took it for a drive. Said it definitely didn't seem like a transmission issue. He said that most turbos have a rev limiter and it felt like mine was failing. Thoughts?

[FraggyA4]

So I brought it to a mechanic friend to check codes he said he didn't have the right software but he took it for a drive. Said it definitely didn't seem like a transmission issue. He said that most turbos have a rev limiter and it felt like mine was failing. Thoughts?

Don't think our car has a rev limiter because you can definitely red line it and let the engine blow up. Sounds like someone who knows nothing about german cars. You really should just find someone near you with a VCDS cable and get it scanned.

Here is the location of a bunch of TDI owners who have VCDS and if you contact them they will most likely be happy to scan it for you.
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=212025731095460330953.000492929ee4cc223453e&ll=41.442726,-97.294922&spn=29.878055,86.572266&z=4&iwloc=000492ce69bc1ee2eac43&dg=feature

[LINDW4LL]

Don't think our car has a rev limiter because you can definitely red line it and let the engine blow up. Sounds like someone who knows nothing about german cars.

lol, of course your engine has a rev limiter; not sure if serious. It's set around 6,900 I believe.


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[Shanster]

My unitronic tune removes the rev limiter...so you're both right?

[FraggyA4]

lol, of course your engine has a rev limiter; not sure if serious. It's set around 6,900 I believe.


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I guess I took it as a physical part, however I believe our cars are tuned to be rev limited to 6900 rpm. But I don't think there is a physical part that controls that on our car. But if there is I will gladly accept that I'm wrong.

This would mean that it can't fail.

[LINDW4LL]

My unitronic tune removes the rev limiter...so you're both right?
You're telling me they completely removed the rev limiter? Are you sure they didn't just raise it a few hundred RPMs?

I find it hard to believe that any tuner, especially a major company like Unitronic, would ever do that. It makes no sense.


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[LINDW4LL]

But I don't think there is a physical part that controls that on our car. But if there is I will gladly accept that I'm wrong.

This would mean that it can't fail.
Right, it's in the ECU, not a physical part. I've never heard of a mechanical rev limiter and I don't believe there is such a thing.

By cutting fuel at 6900 it prevents the engine from damage.


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[FraggyA4]

You're telling me they completely removed the rev limiter? Are you sure they didn't just raise it a few hundred RPMs?

I find it hard to believe that any tuner, especially a major company like Unitronic, would ever do that. It makes no sense.


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Anyone who goes BT and adds upgraded valve springs bumps up to 7500 rpm meaning that it has to be removed in tuning in order to make use of those extra RPMs

[LINDW4LL]

Anyone who goes BT and adds upgraded valve springs bumps up to 7500 rpm meaning that it has to be removed in tuning in order to make use of those extra RPMs
You can raise the rev limiter in the tune. It's very simple. It just seems stupid that any even half-competent tuner would remove it.


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[FraggyA4]

You can raise the rev limiter in the tune. It's very simple. It just seems stupid that any even half-competent tuner would remove it.


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Right but to get back to the original point I was making, the rev limiter can't fail because it's not a physical part. Just a part of the tune that controls the engine.

[LINDW4LL]

Right but to get back to the original point I was making, the rev limiter can't fail because it's not a physical part.
Correct, I acknowledged that above.


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[Shanster]

I could have sworn at one point Uni's marketing said "removes rev limiter." I think in reality it increased it, so they had to change their marketing to reflect that. For example for a Stage 2 tune, it says "increases rev limiter to 7100 rpm."

[Tenedorr]

I believe I am running stock. If it's tuned I don't know about it. Isn't there a thing called wastegate or diverter valve that will exhibit the same symptoms I'm showing if it's malfunctioning? A couple real quick blips of power loss then complete power loss under WOT until I let off the throttle?

[FraggyA4]

A busted DV will give you all sorts of power loss. Give it a look, you can get to it if you put the car on ramps.

[audihere06]

That would be some shit if he spent thousands of dollars on a problem only to be fixed by a $60 part....

Might as well check the pcv as well.

[Adub-Drew]

You sir have what is called a lemon, sadly the only cure to fixing it is squeezing it with lots of money until you have fucking lemonade. I've been down that road and in total have put close to $12,000 into my 22k car. Yes looking back it was stupid to fix and I could have had a much nicer car and a lot less headaches. As bad as it sounds my advice to you is just cut your losses, sell and get something else. The b7 truly is a great car when running properly, after having my car properly run I can say this; if my car were to ever get totaled or in a sever accident and I was in shape to drive, I wouldn't event think twice to pull the trigger on another one.

[{PMS}fishy]

My money is on a warn cam lobe and lack of fuel pressure at high loads.

[Tenedorr]

Definitely not the worn cam lobe. That has been checked up and down. I don't remember the terminology maybe it's called the the travel was checked and its dead on.

[Tenedorr]

The lift. Thats what was measured and was spot on.

[Tenedorr]

Still no CEL and no EPC and it hasn't gone into limp mode again which is a god-send. It is currently running sluggish especially the first ten minutes or so after starting. The throttle seems a little unresponsive or spongy if that makes sense. The rpms surge 100 back and forth at cruising speed and when you go WOT like to pass it'll still experience a few spurts of power loss and if you keep going it will just have complete power loss and it will stay that way until you let off the gas at which point it will go back to how it has been driving. It's not like the transmission is slipping it's like its running really rich or really lean or there some rev limiter or something kicking on premature or maybe the tranny is bogging? Any suggestions or ideas?

[LINDW4LL]

Your description sounds like a typical plug/coil/DV/boost leak issue.

I forgot if you have any codes or not. Seriously, order a VAG-COM cord.

[Tenedorr]

I am working on that. Still hurting financially after my trip to the Audi dealership but started talking to a guy that wants $250 for a set up. Ive got $150 I can afford to spend right now and am waiting to see if he'll take it. If he does then boom pulling the trigger immediately. I dont think it'd be coils or plugs since both are brand new. I even got the 3 pronged bosh plugs from Jake at JHM.