Jack points for S7?

[NPKR]

Getting prepared to mount new wheels with winter tires within next couple of months. Can anyone tell me where in these photos of the undercarriage of my S7 I can safely place jackstands? Most of the undercarriage is covered and I'm not sure where I can lift.

Also, can I use a hydraulic floor jack with its round saddle to lift at the S7 's four designated lift points ( under the covers at the rocker panels) for the included scissor jack? The round saddle obviously doesn't match the scissor jack's saddle (see photo).

Assuming that I can use a floor jack to raise the car at the designated lift points, where can I place jackstands? Or would I be better off lifting somewhere else and placing the jackstands at the designated lift points?

I know this kind of question comes up now and again on different cars but I have looked extensively on this forum and others for answers but I haven't found anything substantive that deals with the S7.

I have never changed my own wheels before and don't want to damage anything. Thanks!

Designated Audi scissor jack jack point:

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Other undercarriage photos:

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[dennisg]

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/590650-Reverse-Logic-Jack-Pad


I picked up one of these and it works great. I got the lug bolt guide too. Both are awesome. Don't need jackstands to change wheels IMO. just do one at a time.

Raise car and then put in tire service mode on MMI. It will keep suspension from trying to adjust itself.

If you want to put jackstands under, I put them on lower control arms on front. Never had back up on stands yet.

[NPKR]

Thanks for the tip dennisg. This jack pad adapter sounds like just the thing I was looking for. I'll be ordering one. The S7 manual seems to indicate that a lug bolt guide is included is the car's tool kit. Is the one you ordered different or better than the one included with the car?

Everything I've read online tells you to use jack stands but considering you don't get under the car to change wheels I can see the logic in just using the jack alone as you do. I guess my only concern would be if the jack fails (not likely) the car would come down on the rotor or fender if the wheel was off. Maybe I'll just do it with the jack alone and take my chances. Certainly much simpler way to do it.

[HyperM3]

If you are just changing the wheels, why not just jack one corner/side at a time. No need to go through all the work to put jack stands on the car to change all four at once. You're making more work than you have to.

[moosehead1]

Those who follow the church of the jack stands are for the most part correct. Too many things go wrong with those who get under cars, use the emergency trunk scissor lifts, and attempt wheel changes on tilted ground.

That said, I use a heavy duty hydraulic floor jack and 4-way lug bolt wrench for low-stress winter wheelset changes on both the Audi and my SUV - without jack stands. I take care to use a level driveway, and do not get under the car. Basic DIY technique also says to both loosen lugbolts initially, and recheck tightening torque when the vehicle is weighted on the ground.

+1, to dennisg's jack pad and lug bolt guide, pretty cheap and works very well to stabilize both the vehicle and the wheel.

[dennisg]

PS when I said raise car I did not mean with jack. I meant to raise car with mmi in car settings then go to service checks and set tire change mode to ON

Also, I use hydraulic floor jack with that jack pad. I would never get under or put any part of my body under a car that was only on a jack of any kind. You shouldn't either!! But I will change a wheel on a good jack. Chances of it failing are almost nil.

I don't know if there is a lug bolt guide in my toolkit, (S6) but I think that it is easier to just buy this one and have it in my garage for wheel changes and not have to access the tool kit in the car. It is not expensive and it is very nice.

[NPKR]

If you are just changing the wheels, why not just jack one corner/side at a time. No need to go through all the work to put jack stands on the car to change all four at once. You're making more work than you have to.
My intent was to jack and change only one corner at a time. My concern was that with one wheel off, failure of the jack, although likelihood admittedly almost nil as pointed out, might result in potential damage to vehicle.

Now that I see from the many posts that the jack alone is likely sufficient and commonly practiced that is what I will be doing.

Thanks everyone.

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[CreoSTi]

I would never get under or put any part of my body under a car that was only on a jack of any kind. You shouldn't either!! But I will change a wheel on a good jack. Chances of it failing are almost nil.

+1

[Brooklyn]

reviving a thread from the dead, but I'd love to know where the heck to mount jack stands under the front of the car. I need the entire car on jack stands to paint my calipers and everything up front looks prone to crumbling under the weight of the car.

[hackths]

Jack up at the jack points- just use a normal jack under the curved locations. Then jack stands under the control arms.

[Brooklyn]

rgr - a little scared to use the control arms, but that seems to be the only place to put the things.

[hackths]

Don't be, they hold up the car all day :) been doing those points for every single car I have ever owned.

[hackths]

By the way, don't do it where the arm bolts to the car, just use the arm itself- it's a solid piece of metal. The bolt point is much thinner metal that surrounds the joint.