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Zeusfuess
08-20-2014, 02:35 PM
So after much reading about radar detectors I have become sad. It's seems all of the very best ones would be illegal in Colorado. We are one of like five states where laser jammers are a no no. So my real question is... What (for our state) is the best detector? Also who has them hard wired and what all is involved for such a setup?

philthyphil
08-20-2014, 02:42 PM
You can radar detectors here.

You cannot have laser jammers in Colorado.

You cannot have radar jammers anywhere.

philip_g
08-20-2014, 02:44 PM
You cannot have laser jammers in Colorado.


who cares.
don't be an idiot and it won't be a problem.

treginginco
08-20-2014, 04:34 PM
Valentine One --- hands down.

AudiTFSI3o3
08-20-2014, 04:42 PM
Escort 9500ix

philip_g
08-20-2014, 05:41 PM
Valentine One --- hands down.

most false alarms of any detector I've ever owned.

LINDW4LL
08-20-2014, 05:56 PM
most false alarms of any detector I've ever owned.
Turn off X and POP and 99% of your falses will be gone. Mine RARELY falses.

I have owned many of these through the years and swear by it. Escort's offerings are pretty good as well, but the V1 is my go to. Hands down

auditd0rk
08-20-2014, 06:05 PM
Valentine One --- hands down.

This. Mine has saved my ass a number of times.

And what LINDW4LL said. I disabled X and POP and don't get the annoying false alerts from the traffic speed radar littered along I-25 between the Springs and Denver.

AudiTFSI3o3
08-20-2014, 08:39 PM
most false alarms of any detector I've ever owned.

Valentine + Side Assist = [headbang]

LINDW4LL
08-20-2014, 08:56 PM
Valentine + Side Assist = [headbang]
Again, turn off POP and you won't have any issues..

100Daily
08-21-2014, 05:34 AM
I am a HUGE radar detector and laser jammer nerd. I frequent Radardetector.net.


Again, turn off POP and you won't have any issues..

What? I wish that was true on B8.5's, but POP isn't the problem. K-band falsing is a well known issue on V1 and side assist Audi's. I went through all of this when I first got my S4. I spoke to "Mike" at Valentine and he basically told me the known issue is when you pass a k-band source. The V1 "dials in" on that frequency. Since side assist uses K-band, the v1 will continually report the false k-band until manually cleared by the user. All is fine until the next time you pass a K-band, and once again the v1 will false over and over until cleared. Can you disable rear-k on the V1? Yes, but it still falses. Can you disable side assist on the car? Yes, but K still transmits and you still get falses. After hours of trial and error, and then help directly from the engineers at Valentine, I was told my only option was to fully disable K, which I have done now for years.


who cares.
don't be an idiot and it won't be a problem.

I went on a ride along with the Colorado State Patrol and used their LTI 20/20 to target speeders. They are manufactured right here in Colorado! The laser guns have software that can detect a jam. They won't get a speed, but they very well might get a jam code (depending on your jammer, and what laser they are using). If so, that alone is probable cause to pull you over. Even if you weren't even speeding. They pull you over and look at the front of your car, if they see jammers that is considered "illegal equipment". What happens if you are found driving with illegal equipment? Car impounded, and the state charges you to remove your jammer before you can get your car out of impound. Yes you can shut off the jammer with a switch, but it only takes a second to get nailed. An illegal equipment ticket is a lot worse than a normal speeding ticket.

So which one to get? V1, 9500xi, or redline? They all have 30 day free trials, so you can judge for yourself. They all have similar performance, it really comes down to features. For me, v1 was the winner because of the arrows. I NEED to know where the source is above all else. The V1 is chatty, but I live in the boon docks so that isn't a key concern. Out in the open country nothing beats a V1. If I lived in a city I would have probably kept the 9500 to cut false alarms with the GPS lockout. It's up to you, but I would avoid jammers regaurdless.

philip_g
08-21-2014, 05:45 AM
Turn off X and POP and 99% of your falses will be gone. Mine RARELY falses.

I have owned many of these through the years and swear by it. Escort's offerings are pretty good as well, but the V1 is my go to. Hands down

that's great, except my town actually uses x.

philip_g
08-21-2014, 05:47 AM
I went on a ride along with the Colorado State Patrol and used their LTI 20/20 to target speeders. They are manufactured right here in Colorado! The laser guns have software that can detect a jam. They won't get a speed, but they very well might get a jam code (depending on your jammer, and what laser they are using). If so, that alone is probable cause to pull you over. Even if you weren't even speeding. They pull you over and look at the front of your car, if they see jammers that is considered "illegal equipment". What happens if you are found driving with illegal equipment? Car impounded, and the state charges you to remove your jammer before you can get your car out of impound. Yes you can shut off the jammer with a switch, but it only takes a second to get nailed. An illegal equipment ticket is a lot worse than a normal speeding ticket.



and when have you ever heard of that happening? I'm willing to bet never. The officers get weird codes all the time with the laser guns, they usually just hit the car again and if they get a speed readout, they move on.

100Daily
08-21-2014, 05:51 AM
and when have you ever heard of that happening? I'm willing to bet never. The officers get weird codes all the time with the laser guns, they usually just hit the car again and if they get a speed readout, they move on.

I just told you exactly when I heard about it happening, on a ride along with the police! My friend is a cop. He said it happens frequently.

philip_g
08-21-2014, 06:45 AM
I just told you exactly when I heard about it happening, on a ride along with the police! My friend is a cop. He said it happens frequently.

I have not once seen a post on any forum where someone has been caught using a jammer.

mecham
08-21-2014, 07:25 AM
Valentine + Side Assist = [headbang]

I have both and dont have any problem???

nothing is disabled on my V1...i didnt even know u could disable anything until i read this post. [>_<]

100Daily
08-21-2014, 07:41 AM
I have both and dont have any problem???

nothing is disabled on my V1...i didnt even know u could disable anything until i read this post. [>_<]

It only effects B8.5's. I think a Audi changed the frequency of the side assist on the face lifted cars.

mecham
08-21-2014, 08:40 AM
It only effects B8.5's. I think a Audi changed the frequency of the side assist on the face lifted cars.


ah ok! [up]

mecham
08-21-2014, 11:50 AM
I can tell u the V1 update program blows!!! I got 2 V1's.

One is going to cost 279+shipping
other is 199+shipping

ugh..might as well get a new one :D

LINDW4LL
08-21-2014, 12:23 PM
I can tell u the V1 update program blows!!! I got 2 V1's.

One is going to cost 279+shipping
other is 199+shipping

ugh..might as well get a new one :D
If you have v1.8 or newer it's kind of pointless to upgrade IMO. Also, you can always get $300+ for your used V1s so it really never makes sense to upgrade.

auditd0rk
08-21-2014, 01:36 PM
that's great, except my town actually uses x.

Where do you live, 1985?

philip_g
08-21-2014, 04:21 PM
Where do you live, 1985?

I was quite surprised to get pulled over without a single chirp.

Aok303
08-21-2014, 04:58 PM
just buy invisivble ink and they cant see you but on truth

V1 very good but can have false alarms but everyone could use a free check once in a wile
9500i is good the app and phone adaptor to narrow down common false alarms with its learning memory is awesome (post offices, police stations, permanent speed check stations)

both are great. but a laser will still get you
it is right when Jammed the gun shows a different code then a miss read. they test daily to make sure they do work so yeah
I had to pull jammers out of cars of people caught so yes they do catch people

Most cops shoot twice if they get a jam signal so if the second time is clear and shows speed they chalk it up as handle error
and alot if they think they cant prove you were speeding at a very high rate it not worth there hassle to go through a search and seize process for the jamer.

KidGT
08-22-2014, 02:32 PM
I have not once seen a post on any forum where someone has been caught using a jammer.

Doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Traffic cops (particularly staties) occasionally suffer from douche-syndrome over not being real police, and will jack you up if they're having a bad day.

If they can't get a read on you for speeding (most jammers bring up an error message on the gun, like was said) so if you have a modded car they might just pull you over and hit you with a bunch of BS tickets like tint, no front plate, illegal exhaust mod, etc. just to be an ass since they cant get the stat for a speeding violation.

Most jammers can be rigged up to a switch, and give an audible noise when triggered allowing you to hit the brakes and turn them off so they can get a reading on you once you're under the speed limit.

Zeusfuess
08-22-2014, 02:36 PM
So it seems v1 gets the nod. Now the next question. Who has theirs hard wired? Has anyone done a picture intense writeup?

KidGT
08-22-2014, 02:40 PM
So it seems v1 gets the nod. Now the next question. Who has theirs hard wired? Has anyone done a picture intense writeup?

It's really easy.

Most wire it up to the in-cabin fuse box, though which one to use varies. There's probably a decent write-up in your model's sub-forum.

100Daily
08-22-2014, 02:59 PM
So it seems v1 gets the nod. Now the next question. Who has theirs hard wired? Has anyone done a picture intense writeup?

The V1 comes with a hardwire kit if you buy it new. If you don't have a kit you can buy one on Valentines website. And then also buy one of these, its called a tap-a-fuse
http://4x4icon.com/crossfire/pioneer_tuner/buss_fuse_tap.jpg

That is all you need. Route the wire under your headliner and down to your fuse box. It basically only takes positive and ground. Both are located in your fuse box next in your drivers side steering wheel. Simply connect the ground to the grounding post (self explanatory).

For the positive power you need to find a switching on/off fuse. You can use a multimeter and easily tell which ones power on and off with the key. Preferably don't use one for your airbags, or something critical. Use your owners manual to make sure the fuse you are going to tap into is for lighting or something non-safety related. That will give you on/off switching power. You take out that fuse, and plug in the tap-a-fuse you bought.

Get some cable ties because the Valentine kit comes with a LONG wire. Tie everything down tight. Job done.

I would mount it high, right where mine is. I made it so the V1's sensors sit just below the shade strip. Then run the cable up along the head liner.
http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l638/Bob_Neyens/IMG_9221.jpg (http://s1127.photobucket.com/user/Bob_Neyens/media/IMG_9221.jpg.html)

(pic is from my old A5, but would be the same for any Audi)
http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l638/Bob_Neyens/IMG_9203.jpg (http://s1127.photobucket.com/user/Bob_Neyens/media/IMG_9203.jpg.html)

I had a remote display custom modded with colored LED's that "ramp up" in color.
http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l638/Bob_Neyens/IMG_9217.jpg (http://s1127.photobucket.com/user/Bob_Neyens/media/IMG_9217.jpg.html)

I added 2 sided foam to "prop up" the unit so I could see it over my steering wheel.
http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l638/Bob_Neyens/IMG_9211.jpg (http://s1127.photobucket.com/user/Bob_Neyens/media/IMG_9211.jpg.html)

Remote displays are nice so you don't have to keep looking up and over at your detector, taking your eyes off the road. I also have a "remote switch" affixed to the back side of my cruise control stock (not pictured). That allows me to mute the V1 and change modes without taking my hands off the wheel.

badmk3
08-24-2014, 08:20 AM
How about not speed and leave it for the track?. Much better.

LINDW4LL
08-24-2014, 09:59 AM
How about not speed and leave it for the track?. Much better.
Yes officer.

I don't do any heavy speeding but there is always that LEO who will nail you for going 72 in a 65 at the end of the month (and it's well within his rights to do that, obviously). I like to be protected.

Aok303
08-26-2014, 07:28 PM
I have the V1, the unit is hidden in the head rear head rest, with display in the mirror and the mute switch by the ebrake

it looses about 20 to 50 feet depending on speed in testing, but i have yet to have a ticket from the state patrol
did get one from a bike cop using a laser that was hidden 30 feet off the road in Arvada, they use a press laser so i wouldnt of seen it early enough anyways

ProfileX
08-27-2014, 05:34 AM
I've owned the 9500i and the V1, and agree with most of the advice in here. I ended up selling the 9500i because I liked the front and rear indicators on the V1. The V1 was hard wired in my last car, and since I bought my new car I've never even used it, it's been sitting in the original box for 3 years so I guess I should think about selling it!

PCHS4
08-27-2014, 04:42 PM
Escort Max + Laser Interceptor in my ride, both hardwired. Saved my ass so many times I lost count.

Zeusfuess
08-28-2014, 02:07 PM
If you decide to sell that v1 let me know.

MNB5Tuner
08-28-2014, 08:01 PM
I don't understand why nobody has said anything about the 9500ci or K40 [confused]

Hands down the two best detectors on the market and nothing hanging from your windshield screaming give me a ticket if you do get pulled over.

http://www.radar-mirror.com/_RefFiles/DSC_0103.JPG




If you had to stick to an ugly windshield one Escort 9500ix/Max if you drive a lot in town, V1 if you do a lot of highway driving IMO

LINDW4LL
08-28-2014, 08:08 PM
I don't understand why nobody has said anything about the 9500ci or K40 [confused]

Hands down the two best detectors on the market and nothing hanging from your windshield screaming give me a ticket if you do get pulled over.

If you had to stick to an ugly windshield one Escort 9500ix/Max if you drive a lot in town, V1 if you do a lot of highway driving IMO
Because the K40 doesn't hold a candle to the other detectors; V1, Escort, and Sti-R. It kind of blows to be honest.

V1 has the best protection IMO, and is debatably the best overall detector available. The only downside is false alerts, which I believe to be largely blown out of proportion. I don't live in downtown Chicago or anything, but by turning off POP and X-band, I've eliminated 99% of falses and rarely get them.

As far as having something hanging from your windshield; mine is hardwired and near the top of the windshield near the mirror. It's barely visible, and not at all from outside the car. In my SUV I have a visor mount and again, it's not in the way and completely hidden to people outside (and police)

100Daily
08-28-2014, 08:10 PM
K40? No bueno

Guys of lidar tested, it failed: http://youtu.be/oQsa5HltHe0

Bad review from radar test. http://radartest.com/article_2.asp?articleid=100584

No jam on this vid. http://youtu.be/UfV3VJll9yI

Pretty sure k40 is junk. 9500 CI is nice though, but super expensive and no arrows.

myrison
08-28-2014, 08:22 PM
9500ix + Laser Interceptor for me (both hard wired). Combo is damn near bullet proof. The kill switch for the Laser Interceptor mounts under steering wheel in easy reach to turn off as soon as you slow down.

I got nailed by laser going to DIA 2 weeks ago, hit the brakes, and hit the kill switch about 2 seconds after it alerted. Never got a second look from the LEO as I passed by him on the shoulder.

LarryDallas
08-30-2014, 07:13 AM
I have a customer who had a DPD officer spot the jammers on the front of his NSX and got an expensive ticket that required hiring an attorney. He had me remove the jammer and and document its destruction. The officer didn't detect the jammer with his radar gun, the guy was only going 15mph and the officer saw the jammer in the lower grill and pulled him over.

I've tried a Beltronics unit before but now I use a V1. I'm sure there are a lot of detectors with better features now, but this works better than any I've used before. I also drive with Waze open on my phone, it has saved me from getting more tickets than the V1 has. It's community based, though, so it's not effective in rural areas.

I keep K band turned off and don't get any false alerts. Does anyone live in a place in Colorado that uses K or X?

benji28
08-30-2014, 11:54 AM
Radar detectors are kinda useless. I have an escort max, and some dick cop caught me at 21 over with a laser.

AudiTFSI3o3
08-30-2014, 12:52 PM
^^ Then again that's why they're called radar detectors. They do a great job alerting different bands of radar. Laser is more instant and once you're hit you're screwed.

PCHS4
08-30-2014, 02:11 PM
^^ Then again that's why they're called radar detectors. They do a great job alerting different bands of radar. Laser is more instant and once you're hit you're screwed.

I have been hit many times with laser guns while speeding and using the Laser Interceptor and no tickets.

Laser guns appear to only be used in the cities. I have yet to be hit by one on the freeways, highways, or interstates.

100Daily
08-30-2014, 02:13 PM
I have usually hit on freeways, highways, and interstates. I-70 is famous for them. Same with I-25. State patrol uses LTI 20-20's

benji28
08-30-2014, 03:38 PM
Yea if you're hit with a laser you're screwed unless you have a jammer. Only the real asshole cops use them tho

PCHS4
08-30-2014, 04:08 PM
Never seen them in Arizona or SoCal out of cities - just Ka band radar. Laser in town is widespread.

LarryDallas
08-31-2014, 07:58 AM
I got a laser alert coming around a corner while going through Colorado Springs and managed to it the brakes in time, it probably helped that I was in the right lane. Cops seem to focus more attention on the left lane but most of the drivers in the Springs are from bizarro states where the left lane is for slow traffic and the right lane is for passing.

mecham
08-31-2014, 12:01 PM
most of the drivers in the Springs are from bizarro states where the left lane is for slow traffic and the right lane is for passing.

omg lol...QFT!!!

auditd0rk
08-31-2014, 01:28 PM
My V1 saved me a couple times yesterday driving through Rocky Mountain National Park -- those park rangers weren't playing around.