Does 2010 B8 S4 have Bluetooth Audio?

[Nuzhuz]

Yes, I use bluetooth for phone calls...but can you play your music off your iphone on the 2010 first run B8 S4?


I just watched this video but this is for B8.5 - would the below method work on my car?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNtjZsxoC00

Thanks for any help![>_<]

[SwankPeRFection]

No, you cannot stream audio via BT on 3G MMI/NAV. Only 3G+ models, which is B8.5 and up.

[raudiace4]

Nope you cant. Its the most annoying thing about B8s.

[infinkc]

buy a Tune2air.

[SteveYem]

2010-2012 models do not have this capability built-in, but I believe there are some aftermarket options which work 'OK', such as Tune2Air. Do some searching around this forum and you will find some threads about it.

[Pworld]

Nada

[breyton490]

buy a Tune2air.

+1 this works well enough..

you won't see the name of song/file on your DIS, but it will allow you to stream music to your system. Audi feels like they are 3-4 years behind in the electronics found in most every other mfg. Its very frustrating to see a Honda Civic with more standard electronics than what Audi offers at times... oh well, a civic will always be a civic...

[mact3333]

Here we go again haha

Tune2air for 100.00 using compressed bluetooth that sounds like crap vs lossless AirEnabler using uncompressed wifi!

When this question asked next month I will be back to promote AirEnabler yet again...:)

[SwankPeRFection]

^^^ RatsNest FTW! [down]

[Leor604]

Here we go again haha

Tune2air for 100.00 using compressed bluetooth that sounds like crap vs lossless AirEnabler using uncompressed wifi!

When this question asked next month I will be back to promote AirEnabler yet again...:)

First, that's a nice "opinion" but unfortunately you are misinformed. I don't label myself as an audiophile but I am certainly not deaf. With 256kb source material, I cannot hear the difference between the tune2air and the SD card so, no, it doesn't "sound like crap" (Sirius sounds like crap and I wouldn't pay $1/month for it, but that's another story). A car is a noisy, shitty listening room so lossless audio is overkill, IMO.

Second, Tune2air gives you full control through both steering wheel and console controls as if the phone is plugged into the glovebox port. It displays all info on both the DIS and the Nav screen and also works flawlessly when a call comes in. It simply hands the phone off to the MMI, you answer/talk/hangup as you normally do and then the tune2air picks up playing where you left off. Also hands off to Siri the same way if you want to use voice for reading/composing/sending text messages. Don't know about other jurisdictions, but here in BC you are not even allowed to pick up your cell phone while waiting at a red light. Picking it up to change/skip/search etc is illegal even it the car is stationary. And, yes, I have seen police strolling between rows of cars at red lights looking for people on their cellphones. I believe it's a $156 fine.

Third, the tune2air is a true wireless solution. Plug it into the connector in the glovebox, store it in the little mesh pocket and never touch it again. I looked up a review of the AirEnabler here (http://evolver.fm/2014/02/13/airenabler-puts-apple-airplay-in-car-or-home-for-50-but-theres-a-catch/) and lol'd. Cables, usb power adapter, DAC (apparently you need one of these too as the bundled one is no good) hardly make for an elegant solution.

Fourth, you keep going on about the $100 Tune2air vs the $50 airenabler. Seriously? You quibble about $50 In a $50k+ car? Then, in your other thread, you spent another $30 on the clunky DAC, another $15 for a fuse tap so you're at $95 and then you still have to run wires to get power in your glovebox??? In the end, you spent as much money, more time, have no audibly better sound quality and still can't control it with MMI.

Fifth, in your other thread you admit you have not listened to a Tune2air, but the airenabler "is night and day difference". Way to bump that forum cred.

You must have shares in the company because I see no other reason for your one-man promotional crusade of this horrible setup.

[mact3333]

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First, that's a nice "opinion" but unfortunately you are misinformed. I don't label myself as an audiophile but I am certainly not deaf. With 256kb source material, I cannot hear the difference between the tune2air and the SD card so, no, it doesn't "sound like crap" (Sirius sounds like crap and I wouldn't pay $1/month for it, but that's another story). A car is a noisy, shitty listening room so lossless audio is overkill, IMO.

Second, Tune2air gives you full control through both steering wheel and console controls as if the phone is plugged into the glovebox port. It displays all info on both the DIS and the Nav screen and also works flawlessly when a call comes in. It simply hands the phone off to the MMI, you answer/talk/hangup as you normally do and then the tune2air picks up playing where you left off. Also hands off to Siri the same way if you want to use voice for reading/composing/sending text messages. Don't know about other jurisdictions, but here in BC you are not even allowed to pick up your cell phone while waiting at a red light. Picking it up to change/skip/search etc is illegal even it the car is stationary. And, yes, I have seen police strolling between rows of cars at red lights looking for people on their cellphones. I believe it's a $156 fine.

Third, the tune2air is a true wireless solution. Plug it into the connector in the glovebox, store it in the little mesh pocket and never touch it again. I looked up a review of the AirEnabler here (http://evolver.fm/2014/02/13/airenabler-puts-apple-airplay-in-car-or-home-for-50-but-theres-a-catch/) and lol'd. Cables, usb power adapter, DAC (apparently you need one of these too as the bundled one is no good) hardly make for an elegant solution.

Fourth, you keep going on about the $100 Tune2air vs the $50 airenabler. Seriously? You quibble about $50 In a $50k+ car? Then, in your other thread, you spent another $30 on the clunky DAC, another $15 for a fuse tap so you're at $95 and then you still have to run wires to get power in your glovebox??? In the end, you spent as much money, more time, have no audibly better sound quality and still can't control it with MMI.

Fifth, in your other thread you admit you have not listened to a Tune2air, but the airenabler "is night and day difference". Way to bump that forum cred.

You must have shares in the company because I see no other reason for your one-man promotional crusade of this horrible setup.

[infinkc]

+1 this works well enough..

you won't see the name of song/file on your DIS, but it will allow you to stream music to your system. Audi feels like they are 3-4 years behind in the electronics found in most every other mfg. Its very frustrating to see a Honda Civic with more standard electronics than what Audi offers at times... oh well, a civic will always be a civic...

Mine shows all the tracks and song titles like if i were physically plugged in to the port. Or are you talking like with pandora? titles come over from pandora , but if you start skipping tracks it messes it up. this is with an ip5

[Layza]

I bought the Tune2Air a few weeks ago. I love it and to "me" the music through my phone sounds great! Only regret I have is that I didn't buy it sooner.

[Leor604]

I bought the Tune2Air a few weeks ago. I love it and to "me" the music through my phone sounds great! Only regret I have is that I didn't buy it sooner.

So you have a acoustic neuroma, too??? I thought I was the only one.

[LeadToRome]

"You must have acoustic neuroma" is the new "yo mama's fat".

[Layza]

So you have a acoustic neuroma, too??? I thought I was the only one.


I guess so and I'm happy about it, LOL..

[Leor604]

And no I didn't need to buy the extra DAC for 30.00 so it truly does cost 50.00...and the power kit to tap into fusebox was like 12.00.

...and from your other thread...


I ordered a 30.00 DAC from Amazon and will try it out this weekend. I will also tap power from passengers side fuse box and run power into the glove box so no cords will be visible.


Esp. since the BT unit Tune2Air is 100.00....this unit is 50.00 and has great email support...guy gets back to you within few hrs every time...spend another 30.00 on upgraded DAC and its still cheaper...spend another 15.00 on fuse tap hardwire to get power from fusebox and you're into it 95.00 tops.

Right now, sound is abit thin but I am hoping new DAC improves this.

Don't like being called out on your own contradictions?

So did you spend the $30 (and the $12 -$15 to make it "95.00 tops"), or are you using the crappy bundled DAC and listening to thin (but lossless) sound? It's either $50 and thin sounding with a ghetto power cord to the cigarette lighter (definitely not wireless), or $95 and a pain in the ass to install and lacking MMI control. By your own words, it can't be both.

Despite your personal attack on my hearing and calling me a hypocrite (you'll have to be more specific as I don't see any hypocricy in my statements), I'm really trying to understand what's so compelling about this setup that you push it with such zeal. You haven't convinced me (nor anyone else as far as I can tell) that it's worth the effort and still lose MMI controls/display. And, disregarding your infantile statements regarding Canadian law and cellphone legality, I *am* trying to set an example for my driving age children by not using my handset in the car. I'd like my kids to be as safe as possible out there. Sorry if that offends you.

Later, dude.

[breyton490]

Mine shows all the tracks and song titles like if i were physically plugged in to the port. Or are you talking like with pandora? titles come over from pandora , but if you start skipping tracks it messes it up. this is with an ip5

I am using a Galaxy S3 - I dont think Android devices are able to show the track info on the DIS using the Tune2Air. No track info whether its Pandora, mp3 on the device, etc. DIS shows Media or external device.. cant quite remember

[mact3333]

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...and from your other thread...so where is the power cord to the cig lighter you yard?..it doesn't exist! wow you are a dense a-hole...:)...thats why I have the power kit to fuse box...do you even understand how this thing works?...dont think so...you are using same port in the glovebox as I am





Don't like being called out on your own contradictions?

So did you spend the $30 (and the $12 -$15 to make it "95.00 tops"), or are you using the crappy bundled DAC and listening to thin (but lossless) sound? It's either $50 and thin sounding with a ghetto power cord to the cigarette lighter (definitely not wireless), or $95 and a pain in the ass to install and lacking MMI control. By your own words, it can't be both.

Despite your personal attack on my hearing and calling me a hypocrite (you'll have to be more specific as I don't see any hypocricy in my statements), I'm really trying to understand what's so compelling about this setup that you push it with such zeal. You haven't convinced me (nor anyone else as far as I can tell) that it's worth the effort and still lose MMI controls/display. And, disregarding your infantile statements regarding Canadian law and cellphone legality, I *am* trying to set an example for my driving age children by not using my handset in the car. I'd like my kids to be as safe as possible out there. Sorry if that offends you.

Later, dude.

[SwankPeRFection]

Honestly mact, some of us would rather have an AirPlay capable device plugged into the MMI cable and getting power from it rather than having to splice into a fuse box for power or otherwise. This is why I call your solution a rats nest. I gave you an example of a device that can do just that and you shot it down due to a single software defect that the company is working on ironing out. Regardless, if you want all that in your glove compartment to do what you do, more power to you, but some want a single/small device to plug into the MMI cable and get the job done. It's called a clean install solution. I look at it along the same lines as if you were upgrading the speaker system in the car and you had the choice of cutting the stock harness clips and spading them for the aftermarket speakers or using proper connectors/adapter pigtails made for the car to go to aftermarket speakers. Some people prefer a cleaner more proper solution to something.

[mact3333]

Honestly mact, some of us would rather have an AirPlay capable device plugged into the MMI cable and getting power from it rather than having to splice into a fuse box for power or otherwise. This is why I call your solution a rats nest. I gave you an example of a device that can do just that and you shot it down due to a single software defect that the company is working on ironing out. Regardless, if you want all that in your glove compartment to do what you do, more power to you, but some want a single/small device to plug into the MMI cable and get the job done. It's called a clean install solution. I look at it along the same lines as if you were upgrading the speaker system in the car and you had the choice of cutting the stock harness clips and spading them for the aftermarket speakers or using proper connectors/adapter pigtails made for the car to go to aftermarket speakers. Some people prefer a cleaner more proper solution to something.


Swank, since you are behaving in a civil manner this time, I will answer with civility.

I just don't get the "rats nest" argument and here is why...no matter what you use to get music onto your car system, you ARE using that MMI port...with tune2air, belkin, blackberry, air enabler, you have to use that port.

The main difference between tune2air and air enabler is that the wifi box with air enabler is abit bigger, but given its in glove compartment you won't see it. With AE you need a power source, hence the fusebox kit. Without it, you will need a ugly cord to your cig lighter plug which wasn't an acceptable option for me.

Is the install abit more involved?. yes.. but its a 5 min job...to tap the power source to fusebox its a 10 min job but my thread shows you exactly where to get power from and how to do it.

I guess I am taking this topic personally cause when I originally brought up using a lossless wifi based unit for the S4, people on here said it couldn't be done. I believe I was the first to do this on the S4 and it took me a long time to research this subject on BMW MB's and etc. There are 1000's of people retrofitting a Apple Airport Express by taking it apart and changing the power supply to use as a wifi unit in the car(and I was close to doing this as I even ordered an airport express) but this solution is so much more simple.

Now if you truly cannot hear the difference between SD card and HD radio or XM or bluetooth streaming, then you probably shouldn't get this unit cause some peoples acoustic nerve may not be very sensitive. I can hear the difference between all different sources. Also, maybe some people don't have the B & O system and perhaps this plays into it. All I can say is that for a stock system, the BO system sounds quite good.

Also, there are many benefits to using either Spotify and Pandora vs using the MMI steering wheel controls. The scroll wheel is very limiting and cause you have to change things or search in linear fashion. With Spotify you can scroll a lot easier, you can make playlists, you can use Shazam to find a song being heard on radio and download it right there...you can search for songs on home computer and download unlimited amounts of music and it auto syncs to your iPhone so you don't have keep downloading songs onto SD card or iPhone using iTunes, which is a hassle. One other benefit is that anyone else in your car can jump onto your wifi unit and take control of the music with their own iPhone or iPad.

And the reason I gave you a hard time before regarding the unit from (Sweden?), was that the reviewer clearly said it wouldn't work for the car yet you said to me "if you watched my video" you would see its a better option, hence I was sarcastic towards you. And you will never get a unit as small as the tune2air cause a wifi unit will never be as small as a BT unit because the technology is not the same....BT units can be 1 X 1 inch but a wifi station will always be bigger than that...but not sure why this is a problem if its 3 X 3 inches as long as its stored in the glovebox and out of the way.

Bottomline, if you want lossless streaming where you can get the benefits of using platforms like Spotify or Pandora, then AirEnabler is a great option and my thread has given specific instructions on how to do this for 50.00 plus change...now if you truly cannot hear the difference between SD, radio, XM, bluetooth, then you probably should go for the 100.00 Tune2Air(btw this unit should cost like 30.00-50.00 tops) cause there is no sense going for anything beyond that.

But a lot of people see the benefit of Spotify and Pandora as this is the way of the future, whereas using a iPod or iPhone using bluetooth is 5 year old technology and within the next 3-5 years, it will go out like CD players, as most cars will come with their own wifi stations and will have internet access...that is the future imho.

[MYFASTA4]

if it has 3g mmi you can get this adapter
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/266895-Bluetooth-Adapter-Audi-Music-Interface-(Great-Stuff!)

[milk242]

Leo,

Are you truly that stupid and juvenile?...your acoustic neuroma spread to your brain and it usually doesn't do that.

I told you I bought the DAC for 30.00 but I also said you don't need to since it comes with one....so minus 30.00.... so where is the power cord to the cig lighter?..it doesn't exist!..wow you are a dense a-hole...:)...thats why I have the power kit to fuse box...do you even understand how this thing works?...dont think so...you are using the same port in the glovebox as I am yet you can't seem to understand this...you really are showing you know nothing about audio systems...and you are being critical of something you don't own, haven't tried and no nothing about so is being called out now?.

If you can't afford air enabler and you want me to buy one for you so you can try it out?...I will if you STFU ...[:D]

Its like someone saying that GIAC stage 2 is the same as stock as they can't feel any difference, but all its saying is that person knows nothing about car performance.

BTW, it sounds great now...I said it sounded abit thin cause I am used to having 2-3 K stereo upgrades but after some adjustments on my iPhone itself, it sounds great...next.

Lastly, if you tell me you have never looked at your phone while driving you are a farkin liar on top of stupid...[:D]

I will STFU if you buy me one.

[MisterB8er]

Wifi vs Bluetooth audio quality arguement aside... (seems very subjective)
I have used built-in bluetooth for streaming on my other vehicles ('12 Kia Optima, '11 Dodge Ram) with no noticeable audio quality difference than wired, Sirius, or FM. Is it safe to assume Tune2Air would provide at least as good sound quality as a stock bluetooth system would?
My point being, I like streaming via bluetooth on built-in systems and if Tune2Air can provide at least that good of quality then I am sold.

[Leor604]

I'm sure you'll be happy with the Tune2Air. It is far better quality than Sirius so, if you find that acceptable, you'll be very happy with the audio quality from your phone (assuming your source material is OK). It will play anything that is on your phone and will also stream audio from apps. I've tried it with Songza, Netflix and Youtube and it works great.

[mact3333]

I'm sure you'll be happy with the Tune2Air. It is far better quality than Sirius so, if you find that acceptable, you'll be very happy with the audio quality from your phone (assuming your source material is OK). It will play anything that is on your phone and will also stream audio from apps. I've tried it with Songza, Netflix and Youtube and it works great.


I apologize for the personal attacks on you from earlier today, I obviously have a lot of history regarding this subject...that was classless of me...I will no longer participate in any more bluetooth vs lossless Airplay debates!

[Leor604]

I apologize for the personal attacks on you from earlier today, I obviously have a lot of history regarding this subject...that was classless of me...I will no longer participate in any more bluetooth vs lossless Airplay debates!

No worries. As long as we kiss and make up, it's all good.

[cryptyk]

Another option, if your phone supports it, is an apt-x bluetooth dongle. Here's some info: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/593229-Installed-Apt-X-module-for-high-quality-streaming-audio-(B8)
- It's "lossless", so you get the higher audio quality like the wifi solution
- It's an open standard. Android phones already support it, and IOS may in the future
- It connects when you get in the car with no "boot up" time
- You can not use the steering wheel controls
- You have to either use a custom MMI cable that provides USB power, or you'll need to tap the fuse box

The way I view the different solutions:
Get the Tune2Air if you want something that works with any phone, is plug-and-play, works with steering wheel controls, and is good quality.
Get the Wifi setup if you want higher quality, don't mind tapping a fuse, don't care about steering wheel controls, and have an IOS device
Get the apt-x dongle if you want higher quality, don't mind tapping a fuse, don't care about steering wheel controls, and have an Android with apt-x support.

[s4buckeye]

Just returned the AirEnabler as it simply did not work on an M3 e93 w/o combox. First it was clicking with the OEM DAC, then added an aftermarket DAC and ground loop isolator as well to no avail as it had to be cranked way up to hear it and then there was way too much background hiss.

tune2air was seamless with the 30 pin y-cable, all functions came up in iDrive MMI and on the wheel. Sound quality was fantastic, and it worked in conjunction with factory bluetooth phone setup as well. will obviously work with most Audis as the instructions seemed to be written for it.