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MrTopher
08-12-2005, 04:38 PM
Alright I need to look to the future not the past...
I just spent close to 1500 on a system for my MK2 when I should have saved it for my A4... Oh well.
But now I need to start looking for some goodies so I'm ready when I get her.
I want to drop my ish right away! Now the question is what companies are making coilovers for the new B7 A4?
I'm running KW's on my MK4 and love the feel!
And I'm running Weitec's on my MK2 cause they came on the car, and they ride like ass.
I haven't heard anything from KW about making coils yet. Does anyone know? The only other company I would rock would be H&R. Unless there are some other opinions.
Plus would this be to much to ask, but I'm looking for some pics of B7's on 18's. I'm going to be running my A8L's and I just want to get a feel of what its going to look like, I know the smart move would be to sell them and get some 19's but I love these wheels and they aren't being sold!
This is the look I want to go for with the stance with the wheels.
http://www.sebboonline.de/gallery/2004_wittenb/images/vw_wtb_2004_123.jpg
http://www.sebboonline.de/gallery/2004_cult_saisonauf/images/vw_cult_auftakt055.jpg
dubless
08-12-2005, 09:34 PM
I'm in the same boat as you are...as far as suspension goes. I need to make a decision as soon as possible. From the several posts I've read any application for a B6 S4 will work fine for a B7. Main reasons are that quite a few of the S4 suspensions bits were used in the B7 & the increased weight of the new platform matches up better to the spring rates used on S4 applications.
With that being said, Bilstein (through NS) seems to be offering a PSS9 system & Koni is also offering a system specifically for the B7.
DesertA4
08-12-2005, 09:43 PM
I know that APR offers products from STASIS and there are a couple of fellow members running the STASIS coilovers. I think zerinA4 has them on his ride and I think they are the Street version.
APR Stasis Coilovers (http://www.goapr.com/Audi/products/sus_stasis_b7a4.html)
tachril
08-13-2005, 02:16 AM
nope .. zerin is running tracksport ..IIRC
BoostedA4tQ
08-13-2005, 07:03 AM
I have a set of PSS9 that i was running on my B6 1.8t and im going to swap it on to my B7. I talked to Bilstein the told me the spring rate would be fine from the B6 but now im going to question them again and see if i should change them for the S4 springs. Since my car is a daily driver i dont want it to be so rough and the PSS9 are pretty stiff.
Ill keep you all posted.
ABT also has two coilover options available for the B7, a track sport and a street sport.
MrTopher
08-15-2005, 03:05 PM
I want to go low and I want it to ride smooth. Like the KW's I have now!
I've heard of the Bilsteins being a little rough.
ABT I have heard nothing about... And Stasis as well.
Little feed back would be nice!
I know that all the Stasis coilovers are made by Koni. My friend has KW V3's in his S4 and the ride is perfect, very smooth even with 19's.
I'm looking into either getting a set of Stasis Track Sports or a set of H&R's, i'm still trying to find out which one is going to have a smoother ride. One thing I found is that many people who have H&R's are saying that the rears have little adjustability in terms of raising.
John1.8T
08-15-2005, 04:36 PM
hey guys -
i'm in the same boat as all of you. I'm running the base suspension and its a bit too high for my liking. Can you guys post a bit more info on the ABT, Bilstein PSS9 and KW suspension setups that would be great. I'm lookin' around and finding some good stuff so i'm glad i'm getting a base for making a decision.
My main 2 questions are: how much do the afore mentioned setups drop the car? I'm not looking for anything more than 1-1.5 because I will be doing some mountain driving. Also, how much on average are these setups running? I noticed the APR/Stasis Street Sport runs around 1100 from their site so i just wanted to compare.
BTW - I'm not tryin' to thread jack here, just asking for a bit more info on the kits you guys have been talking about. Thanks!
My main 2 questions are: how much do the afore mentioned setups drop the car? I'm not looking for anything more than 1-1.5 because I will be doing some mountain driving. Also, how much on average are these setups running? I noticed the APR/Stasis Street Sport runs around 1100 from their site so i just wanted to compare.
Coilover suspension is height adjustable, which means you could change the ride height to whatever ride height you prefer. Most of the kits are going to have adjustability of +/- 2" or 3". The more expensive kits are going to have more options such as dampening adjustability. When choosing coilovers you should decide what you want something thats going to have a soft or stiff ride, the coilovers for the B6 are going to primarily the same as that of the B7 so your best bet is searching the forums and what set-ups other people are running and what type of ride they have.
Purems seems to have some pretty good prices on Koni's and H&R's www.pure-motorsports.com
John1.8T
08-16-2005, 05:56 AM
thanks EC-A4, the Koni's seem to be the ticket as of now.
BTW that link doesn't work.
DesertA4
08-16-2005, 08:47 AM
Here is the link for Pure Motorsports...
http://www.pure-motorsport.com/
RE5PECT
08-16-2005, 04:43 PM
i am running b6 s4 H&R Coils on my B7 A4 and im lovin it....
rxrodr3
08-16-2005, 04:48 PM
Pics please [up]
MrTopher
08-16-2005, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by RE5PECT
i am running b6 s4 H&R Coils on my B7 A4 and im lovin it....
How is the drop? Is is good. I'm looking to tuck tire in both front and rear!
BoostedA4tQ
08-17-2005, 08:00 AM
Well i made a call to Bilstein yesterday and this is how our conversation went.
They told me they have not tried the Suspension on the B7 yet and they do not know if it is the same. I told him that there is not difference in suspension that just the spring rate might be different because of the 2.0t. I really dont think there is any difference between the 1.8t and the 2.0t and the weight is the same so the spring rate should be the same also but im not positive. The person who helped me out at bilstein told me that the B6 1.8t PSS9 kit is the same as the Kit for the 3.0 B6 so with that being said I know i wont have a problem with the spring rate. I told him that i can assure him that the suspension setup is the same he responded me telling me that if the suspension falls apart they are not liable and the warranty is not granted any more either. I think its bull crap that i wont have warranty any more but we will see what happens I know i wont have a problem. I understand that the they dont want to be liable cause they havent tested it but i dont like the fact that my warranty will be up.
Another interesting note is that i was reading the New European Car and the cover car the Greed Speed B7 Avant is running the PSS9 Coilovers so now you tell me?
Fernando
I say go for it, there isn't really anything thats varied suspension wise between B6 and B7 so the suspension kits should pretty much be identical.
Like RE5PECT said, hes running B6 S4 coilovers on his 2.0T problem free and we all know that the S4 and A4 do have a slight weight difference. I find it odd that Bilstein knew nothing about the Greed Speed Avant using their PSS9's and also the fact that they would void out a warranty on their kit.
retrohasen
08-17-2005, 09:05 AM
Originally posted by BoostedA4tQ
Another interesting note is that i was reading the New European Car and the cover car the Greed Speed B7 Avant is running the PSS9 Coilovers so now you tell me?
Fernando
They are running the B6 S4 PSS9s on that car. The B7 suspension is basically the same as the B6 S4s, not the B6 1.8t.
If you go to APR's site the Stasis/Koni Coilovers they sell for the B7 are actually the B6 A4 coilovers.
BoostedA4tQ
08-17-2005, 10:49 AM
Yeah B6 A4 and S4 are the same setup different Spring Rate thats alll...so thats why i know i will be safe with the PSS9 just dont like the atitude Bilstein has toward warranty.
jeremy@matrix
08-17-2005, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by ECA4
I know that all the Stasis coilovers are made by Koni. My friend has KW V3's in his S4 and the ride is perfect, very smooth even with 19's.
I'm looking into either getting a set of Stasis Track Sports or a set of H&R's, i'm still trying to find out which one is going to have a smoother ride. One thing I found is that many people who have H&R's are saying that the rears have little adjustability in terms of raising.
STaSIS StreetSport or TrackSports are both Koni's and rebound damping adjustable.
The TrackSports offer custom spring rates and damping to match.
STaSIS TrackSport coilover Kit for A4Q; 4 STaSIS custom-valved KONI dampers; double digressive damping; single adjustable (rebound), wide band; adjustable while installed on vehicle; cadmium plated threaded steel
damper bodies; height adjustable; 4 STaSIS custom lower spring perches; 2 STaSIS custom upper rear spring perches; 4 linear rate Hyperco springs; 450 lb. to 1000 lb. spring rates; balanced and adjusted on SPA damper dynamometer
$2095
LMK if I can help answer any more questions.
Best,
Jeremy
Hey Jeremy,
How much do the Stasis StreetSports run?
jeremy@matrix
08-18-2005, 08:16 AM
Originally posted by ECA4
Hey Jeremy,
How much do the Stasis StreetSports run?
STaSIS StreetSport coilover kit for A4 Quattro; 4 KONI sport dampers; single adjustable (rebound), narrow band; suspension disassembly required for rebound adjustment; silver chromate plated threaded steel damper bodies; height adjustable; 4 progressive rate KONI springs (450/440 spring rate); balanced and adjusted on SPA damper dynamometer
$995
Let me know if you're interested!
Best,
Jeremy
John1.8T
08-24-2005, 12:32 AM
i'm not surprised they brought up warranty issues with putting B6 aftermarket suspension components on a B7. When i had a B6 i talked to some guys about putting aftermarket APR B6 suspension on my B6 and they said the same thing.
Apparently it rules out anything suspension related - tie rods, suspension arms, etc etc. that stuff can get pretty pricey too if something does happen.