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kingkhalilz
05-06-2014, 07:33 PM
Motor

Make: head bolts oem
From: eurospec oem head bolts 112.00
Link: http://eurospecsport.com/products/co...e-updated.html

Make: rpm H beam rods
From: Racing parts maximum Price 408.00
Link: http://racingpartsmaximum.com/importrod.html

Make: main,rod,thrust Bearings coated
From: 034 338.00
Link: http://store.034motorsport.com/main-...ated-2-7t.html
http://store.034motorsport.com/rod-b...-and-2-7t.html

Make: Head gaskets and valve cover set
From: jhm 125.00 per side 250.00 total
Link: http://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalo..._56_60_100_130


Fueling
-Already purchased 1000cc ev14 injectors

Make: Spartan lazer
From: 14poiint7.com 200.00 for 2
Link:http://www.14point7.com/products/spartan-lambda-sensor

Make: Walbro
From: Summit racing 176
Link: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/vpn-f90000267


Turbos

Make: K24 with billet wheels
From: SRM 2,129
Link: http://sillyrabbitmotorsport.com/rs6-billet-turbo

Make: Diverter valves 710n
From: ecs tuning 110.00 For both
Link: http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/710n/ES581/

Make: bi pipes
From: SRM 150.00
Link: http://sillyrabbitmotorsport.com/aft...bo/s4-bi-pipes


Exhaust

Make: 3 inch true downpipes
From: FTG or SSAC they look similar 365.00
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/FTG-NEW-AUDI...4c28d2&vxp=mtr

Make: Magnaflow Straight through
From: Summit racing 105 each 210 for both
Link: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mp...FYZcMgodJRQAZw


Timing belt and Parts

Make: Timing belt kit
From: Ecs tuning 175.00
Link: http://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-C5_A6-...Timing/ES2576/

Make: Tensioner and lever
From: Europaparts 80.00
Link:http://www.europaparts.com/timing-belt-kit-2-7t.html


TOOLS

Make: Timing cam and crank lock
From: Ebay 40.00
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/3391-VW-AUDI...3c481b&vxp=mtr

Make: Polydrive
From: Ebay 15.00
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/VW-AUDI-1-2-...b7ef1a&vxp=mtr


Transmission

-Already has rs4 pressure plate

Make: 6 puck clutch
From: clutch net 165
Link: http://www.clutchnet.com/index.php?p...art&Itemid=140


Extras already have
-Has jhm front mount
-has rs4 Pressure plate
-has k04 that will come off


Pulled the motor the other day, poor k04's had been rapped bad. The compressor blade's are totally destroyed. Didn't find anything else un usual besides a ton of bolts missing for the last kid that did the k04's. and metal chips in the metal filter for the oil pump. I will post pics later.

I still have some parts that im waiting on. My clutch from clutch net?????? been a month called twice left a message, don't know what the hell that it about. About to call srm for one of his.

Also got scotty @advanced automotion getting me some gaskets and oem bolts. Hopefully he comes through fairly quick, or i will make a pricey trip to the dealer.

The bore looks amazing!!! so i will be reusing the pistons, new rings, honed, and balanced.

Im still questing what the hell caused the blades to get so messed up. If anyone has any theries. Also the head gasket i believed to be bad was a bad diagnosis because they looked real good when i took the heads off. So the turbos where making a lot of smoke. The timing belt was of course loose on one side and tight on the other, and off timing a little.
Will post more later

getslideways
05-06-2014, 07:54 PM
Head gasket failures are pretty rare, so you are probably right in your new diagnosis.

Also, I am digging that well organized and easy to read parts list format [up]

Peter1.8t
05-06-2014, 08:05 PM
Who's tuning it?

kingkhalilz
05-07-2014, 03:36 AM
Head gasket failures are pretty rare, so you are probably right in your new diagnosis.

Also, I am digging that well organized and easy to read parts list format [up]

Haha thanks! pics 2morrow morning, wondering if i should get a new oil pump? suggestions? and What the hell would chip the crap out of the turbine wheels. Not exhaust manifold i looked there.

kingkhalilz
05-07-2014, 03:37 AM
Who's tuning it?

I will be tuning the beast.

mooseclap05
05-07-2014, 03:38 AM
Who's tuning it?

X2, ps great list!

kingkhalilz
05-09-2014, 08:10 PM
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http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad124/kingkhalilz/20140509_182954_resized_zpsc3ee4f76.jpg (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/kingkhalilz/media/20140509_182954_resized_zpsc3ee4f76.jpg.html)


This pp is what i need advise on from the Wizards! Still good??
http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad124/kingkhalilz/20140509_183027_resized_zpscba01a5e.jpg (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/kingkhalilz/media/20140509_183027_resized_zpscba01a5e.jpg.html)

http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad124/kingkhalilz/20140509_183124_resized_zpsf20e966d.jpg (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/kingkhalilz/media/20140509_183124_resized_zpsf20e966d.jpg.html)

http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad124/kingkhalilz/20140509_182947_resized_zpsf5723164.jpg (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/kingkhalilz/media/20140509_182947_resized_zpsf5723164.jpg.html)

http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad124/kingkhalilz/20140509_183117_resized_zps131faa68.jpg (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/kingkhalilz/media/20140509_183117_resized_zps131faa68.jpg.html)


http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad124/kingkhalilz/20140509_183007_resized_zpsc36b51c2.jpg (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/kingkhalilz/media/20140509_183007_resized_zpsc36b51c2.jpg.html)

The bull shit..What the hell did this?? Sprayed metal all over.
http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad124/kingkhalilz/20140509_182935_resized_1_zpsa851b1bb.jpg (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/kingkhalilz/media/20140509_182935_resized_1_zpsa851b1bb.jpg.html)

http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad124/kingkhalilz/20140509_182929_resized_zps6f05f3bb.jpg (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/kingkhalilz/media/20140509_182929_resized_zps6f05f3bb.jpg.html)

http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad124/kingkhalilz/20140509_182712_resized_zps5177fa80.jpg (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/kingkhalilz/media/20140509_182712_resized_zps5177fa80.jpg.html)


http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad124/kingkhalilz/20140509_182908_resized_zps2d52a5ff.jpg (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/kingkhalilz/media/20140509_182908_resized_zps2d52a5ff.jpg.html)

Oil pump re-use??
http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad124/kingkhalilz/20140509_182804_resized_zps00ae364f.jpg (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/kingkhalilz/media/20140509_182804_resized_zps00ae364f.jpg.html)


http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad124/kingkhalilz/20140509_182731_resized_zpsab5ebc1d.jpg (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/kingkhalilz/media/20140509_182731_resized_zpsab5ebc1d.jpg.html)

Heads look real good!!
http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad124/kingkhalilz/20140509_182731_resized_zpsab5ebc1d.jpg (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/kingkhalilz/media/20140509_182731_resized_zpsab5ebc1d.jpg.html)

Clutch wasn't bad.
http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad124/kingkhalilz/20140509_183151_resized_zps2b975ef8.jpg (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/kingkhalilz/media/20140509_183151_resized_zps2b975ef8.jpg.html)

The fun :)
http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad124/kingkhalilz/20140509_182747_resized_zps482fbf11.jpg (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/kingkhalilz/media/20140509_182747_resized_zps482fbf11.jpg.html)

kingkhalilz
05-09-2014, 08:26 PM
I can post pictures of anything anyone would like to see, even the products I purchased. I finished the order from ecs for front main seal crank seal, flywheel bolts crank bolt, main bolts, cam caps/plugs. Piston rings i got from jhm they are already shipped out, props to them.

I have totally given up on clutch net, i am trying to get a hold of sean at srm since he sells the same clutch for a little more, im hoping he can cut me a deal on one. Im just tired of waiting for it, been past a month.

The machine shop will hone the block for me and as soon as i get the flywheel and clutch it will be sent off to get balanced as well. Im unsure of the turnaround time for the machine shop but im sure it will give me enough time to find 2.8 heads and a headlight + some other shit i know im missing.

I will be updating regularly.

Yesmar
05-09-2014, 08:39 PM
What's wrong with the oil pump? Any holes in the screen? Just clean it up and use it. Check this one out I pulled from an avalon.
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu307/yesmar21/Wrenchin/5F55BA96-0E39-44C9-AEE9-13B4BDB00061_zps0yavc7gt.jpg (http://s658.photobucket.com/user/yesmar21/media/Wrenchin/5F55BA96-0E39-44C9-AEE9-13B4BDB00061_zps0yavc7gt.jpg.html)
Cleaned it up with gasoline
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu307/yesmar21/Wrenchin/49EF2F63-AFA7-4160-99AE-342883B7266B_zpsxhdk8ylj.jpg (http://s658.photobucket.com/user/yesmar21/media/Wrenchin/49EF2F63-AFA7-4160-99AE-342883B7266B_zpsxhdk8ylj.jpg.html)
Still taking hard daily abuse just fine

kingkhalilz
05-10-2014, 01:19 AM
Good news!!! appreciate it!!

Anyone wana chime in on the pressure plate? :)

c02oil
05-10-2014, 08:29 AM
You might want to consider a stronger clutch setup. RS4 is not that strong.

kingkhalilz
05-10-2014, 11:30 AM
rs4 pp with the clutchnet will hold k24 on e85, it started to slip when sean hooked up nls. I think i will be fine on pump and meth. but i appreciate your concern. We will see what happens.

kingkhalilz
05-10-2014, 04:50 PM
Just got a hold of clutchnet, said it will ship out monday. Very excited!

zillarob
05-10-2014, 05:17 PM
It the disk is what I am thinking, pay very close attention to the clearance between it and the fw bolt heads.
Unsprung shouldnt be a prob, but doubt you will be able to use oem bolts with a sprung hub.

kingkhalilz
05-11-2014, 12:06 AM
Thanks, i explained this worry to clutchnet. They assured me it has been corrected. I will post pictures when i get it mated up to be certain. Does the disk hit the bolts or where is this issue at? I hope it fits with my fidanza flywheel.

LoonyBoyo
05-11-2014, 01:55 PM
rs4 pressure plate with a 6 puc sprung paddle?

S4 00 2.7
05-11-2014, 02:01 PM
You might want to consider a stronger clutch setup. RS4 is not that strong.

What are you referring to? The Rs4 PP is pretty strong.

zillarob
05-11-2014, 02:08 PM
Will be interesting to see how this setup works out, never tried it myself.

I could see the sac being a huge help to longevity when it comes to the fw/pp eating nature of the ceramic puck disks.
Although have seen it implied that the lack of marcel springs could be a cause of knocking the sac out. May just be marketing though.

kingkhalilz
05-12-2014, 12:47 AM
Will be interesting to see how this setup works out, never tried it myself.

I could see the sac being a huge help to longevity when it comes to the fw/pp eating nature of the ceramic puck disks.
Although have seen it implied that the lack of marcel springs could be a cause of knocking the sac out. May just be marketing though.

Knock the sac out? I'm a little lost. I dont plan on it lasting a long time, i am hoping it grabs and i will be able to launch on it.

zillarob
05-12-2014, 05:59 PM
Sac is the Self Adjusting Clutch mechanism. They like to give people a reason to look inside the bellhousing every now and again [evilsmile]

The disk thicknesses look to be close enough that I doubt you need to adjust the step.
Looked like .010-.020 thicker on oem, but just guessing that is where it would end up with the marcels compressed.

If I were doing this, I would reset the sac, bolt everything on a loose fw, and cycle it in the press to see where the sac ended up.
If it only adjusts a few clicks, prob good.
If it burns through half the adjustment right off the bat, I would think about adjusting the fw step to get it tighter.

kingkhalilz
05-13-2014, 12:28 AM
Sac is the Self Adjusting Clutch mechanism. They like to give people a reason to look inside the bellhousing every now and again [evilsmile]

The disk thicknesses look to be close enough that I doubt you need to adjust the step.
Looked like .010-.020 thicker on oem, but just guessing that is where it would end up with the marcels compressed.

If I were doing this, I would reset the sac, bolt everything on a loose fw, and cycle it in the press to see where the sac ended up.
If it only adjusts a few clicks, prob good.
If it burns through half the adjustment right off the bat, I would think about adjusting the fw step to get it tighter.

Even if the step isn't perfect, the pedal feel when grabbing would just move downward further until it does hit right? The sac wouldnt bottom out with a bunch of the clutch left would it?? .01-.02 difference when it would stop grabbing if it did right???? Shit, i should think about this more. How would i go about adjusting the fw step anyway.


picked up 2.8 heads and some other little goods life thermostat housing. More pics coming.

zillarob
05-13-2014, 01:12 AM
Honestly, you prob be fine just dropping it in. I would have a hard time not checking it though just to see where it was at.

Pedal will be fine. The sac will adjust to make up for it and release point should be same as stock. Thats what it is there for.
.010-.020 is not that big a diff in thickness between the disks. It would really only matter if you were trying to squeeze all the miles you could out of the clutch.

The first time you press the clutch all the way down after installing, the sac will adjust for the thickness of the disk.
Say the stock disk only has to go a few notches because of how thick it is. As it wears, it has the full range of the sac to go through before it wears out.
With a thinner disk, it may use up half of its range just to take the slack out right off the bat. Now you only have half of the range of the sac to wear through before it wears out.

To adjust the fw step, you would cut .010-.020 off of it to compensate for the disk thickness. So .270ish instead of .290.

These are just rough numbers to give you an idea, if you even want to mess with it.

kingkhalilz
05-15-2014, 12:16 PM
Honestly, you prob be fine just dropping it in. I would have a hard time not checking it though just to see where it was at.

Pedal will be fine. The sac will adjust to make up for it and release point should be same as stock. Thats what it is there for.
.010-.020 is not that big a diff in thickness between the disks. It would really only matter if you were trying to squeeze all the miles you could out of the clutch.

The first time you press the clutch all the way down after installing, the sac will adjust for the thickness of the disk.
Say the stock disk only has to go a few notches because of how thick it is. As it wears, it has the full range of the sac to go through before it wears out.
With a thinner disk, it may use up half of its range just to take the slack out right off the bat. Now you only have half of the range of the sac to wear through before it wears out.

To adjust the fw step, you would cut .010-.020 off of it to compensate for the disk thickness. So .270ish instead of .290.

These are just rough numbers to give you an idea, if you even want to mess with it.


Ah i totally get it. Since the Stock set up, is set up to run through the entire stock clutch wont it stop grabbing when .01-.02 is left on the new clutch since that is the difference? Thanks for the knowledge, i have overlooked this. Boring here still waiting for parts!! Flywheel and clutch should be here friday!!!!!

kingkhalilz
05-16-2014, 03:56 PM
Got my clutch and a bunch of crap from ecs tuning. The piston rings arrived and flywheel is in the mail i will post pictures tonight. I pulled 2.8 heads that look pretty damn good. pics of thos tonight also.

c02oil
05-18-2014, 10:35 AM
rs4 pp with the clutchnet will hold k24 on e85, it started to slip when sean hooked up nls. I think i will be fine on pump and meth. but i appreciate your concern. We will see what happens.

I misread I thought you were using a rs4 b5 clutch kit

kingkhalilz
05-18-2014, 12:04 PM
I misread I thought you were using a rs4 b5 clutch kit

Ah, yeah I see now. Good looks tho

kingkhalilz
05-18-2014, 04:35 PM
Well some real shitty news. I had a good friend of mine who knows a lot more than me about motors, said that the pressure plate has burn marks in it and that I should get a new one. So that blows, also the block probably cant be just honed its probably going to need to be re-bored. So that is terribly shitty. I checked the heads I pulled to see if they are leaking, and 2 exhaust valves on different cylinders are leaking.

The plan with the heads is to take them apart clean them and lap them. Gotta find a tool for the springs if there is one.

Gotta order a new pressure plate.

Gotta take the block to the machine shop so I know what pistons to get for the bore.

zillarob
05-18-2014, 04:46 PM
Put a straight edge across the pp and fw to see if they are dished.
Can get it surfaced if not flat. Think NW Connecting Rod will do them.

Northwest Connecting Rod
1705 S. 93rd St. Unit F-7
Seattle, Washington 98108
Phone: 206.763.2487

If flat and just the hot spots, the ceramic will prob chew through them quickly enough.

If you gotta buy pistons, might as well go 3l [evilsmile]

kingkhalilz
05-18-2014, 06:18 PM
The crank also has a little tiny scratch on one of the bearing surfaces for the rods.

I have a fidanza flywheel in the mail so im not worried about the flywheel. Just the pp. You think it would be okay to run?

I hear lots of issues with doing 3l. I would like to stay away from it. However, shit if im only gunna spend a little more I might as well.

Also, im worried about the exhaust valves not being sodium filled. If I got new exhaust valves would I need to lap them in or anything?

I really appreciate your help zillarob!

zillarob
05-18-2014, 06:34 PM
You are already doing all the expensive parts anyway, 3l crank is only a few hunert added.

Check the pp with a straight edge. Its fine if isnt bowl shaped.

What valves do you have that arent sodium filled?

kingkhalilz
05-18-2014, 06:50 PM
The 2.8 heads I believe are not sodium filled.

Might just go 3l then cause that bearing surface does have a scratch in it :) good excuse huh

So if the pp is straight she is still good to go? What is the significants of the burn marks?

Peter1.8t
05-18-2014, 06:53 PM
Just saying, it might be worth it to stop by AMD and talk to Jason since your right next to them.

zillarob
05-18-2014, 06:57 PM
2.8 are sodium filled.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-nvkxd0pDd7Y/UnBA2i3i4hI/AAAAAAAABv0/EkWkhRcERCo/s576/IMG_1250.JPG


The dif is the grooves for the locks cut higher so less spring pressure than the 2.7.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-OiO3tjkSITU/UnBAvWWIuiI/AAAAAAAABvo/54sajZm29Io/s576/IMG_1247.JPG


If you do swap valves around, need to lap them.

kingkhalilz
05-18-2014, 07:01 PM
Just saying, it might be worth it to stop by AMD and talk to Jason since your right next to them.

Yeah stopping in on Monday lol Thanks!

kingkhalilz
05-18-2014, 07:02 PM
2.8 are sodium filled.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-nvkxd0pDd7Y/UnBA2i3i4hI/AAAAAAAABv0/EkWkhRcERCo/s576/IMG_1250.JPG


The dif is the grooves for the locks cut higher so less spring pressure than the 2.7.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-OiO3tjkSITU/UnBAvWWIuiI/AAAAAAAABvo/54sajZm29Io/s576/IMG_1247.JPG


If you do swap valves around, need to lap them.

Is this why the rev difference in the cars? I see.

kingkhalilz
05-26-2014, 06:44 PM
Deciding on a new pressure plate have to get one in the mail. Any one have one they like a lot??

zillarob
05-27-2014, 12:20 AM
B8 rs4 and 6 .100" washers?

kingkhalilz
05-27-2014, 05:28 PM
Interesting, gunna look into this option thanks.


Can't find anything on this. Is b7, b8 pp the same. Jhm uses b7 but they do some tweeking.
Does the b8 slap on with some washers? Has anyone tried this?

kingkhalilz
05-30-2014, 06:19 PM
Decided I'm gunna run the pp.
anyone have a stock piston willing to sell? I just need to replace one of mine that's kinda fubared.

Taking the block to car quest to see if I have to bore it as a second opinion. They have a machine shop.

kingkhalilz
06-19-2014, 11:44 AM
Is .003” clearence piston to wall, for stock pistons okay to run? Im trying to save this block. In AERA engine builder it says a tolerence of .0003” very small. It also states when checking rod bearing clearence the torque should be set to 18 ftlb. Not the assemble torque. Thanks

kingkhalilz
06-27-2014, 07:32 PM
Had To deck The block and will surface The heads. Im a little scared in The compression ratio field. I will be around 9.6. On 91 with meth i think this might Work out okay, but not ideal. May keep The boost at 25 lbs.

kingkhalilz
07-04-2014, 08:16 PM
http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/medium/IMAG00051.jpg

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/medium/IMAG00084.jpg

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/medium/IMAG00092.jpg

Its coming along. All that is left is lap the valves, waiting on valve stem seals then i can assemble the heads.
On monday will check rod clearences then i can balance the bottom end and polish crank. Then its good to go. Got 1 pt dropping head gaskets to straighten me out.

MacDaddy
07-04-2014, 10:00 PM
I wouldn't use that PP, i re used one like that on a car before and the new disc never bedded in properly.

its glazed and hot spotted to hell, even if it could bed in its going to take much much longer than if you started with new parts.

flips4
07-04-2014, 11:46 PM
I got a piston and connecting rod from ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUDI-S4-A6-ALLROAD-2-7T-PISTON-AND-CONNECTING-ROD-B5-C5-2-7-/281358967942?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item41824d2486&vxp=mtr

kingkhalilz
07-05-2014, 12:14 PM
I wouldn't use that PP, i re used one like that on a car before and the new disc never bedded in properly.
its glazed and hot spotted to hell, even if it could bed in its going to take much much longer than if you started with new parts.

Is this with a new flywheel and aggressive clutch? I'm thinking its going to be okay.

kingkhalilz
07-05-2014, 12:17 PM
I got a piston and connecting rod from ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUDI-S4-A6-ALLROAD-2-7T-PISTON-AND-CONNECTING-ROD-B5-C5-2-7-/281358967942?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item41824d2486&vxp=mtr

Thanks for the link, machine shoped checked out the piston and its only damage on the top, nothing on the skirt or wringland. It drove when i took it apart, so it would have fucked the bore up big time if it was on the skirt side. It will make a hotspot in the motor and im okay with that. Thanks for the link

flips4
07-05-2014, 01:47 PM
Not a problem. My damaged one has cracks on the underside above the wrist pin. Not noticeable from the tip.

flips4
07-05-2014, 01:47 PM
Top... not tip. I'll upload a pic when I find it in my garage

kingkhalilz
07-05-2014, 03:27 PM
Cool. Can anyone confirm 8.5 compression ratio on 92 pump with water meth allows enough timing advance with big boost??

jibberjive
07-14-2014, 11:06 PM
Yeah. Don't go less than 8.5:1.

kingkhalilz
07-16-2014, 12:11 AM
Yeah. Don't go less than 8.5:1.

Thanks!

Got the crank in, looked tits after polished. plasti gauge on the main caps read a .001.

got the rings gapped. top one at .018-.020 and second at .020-.022.5 all the top rings where in that range from the box. The second ring was the same as the top so i just added .002 to it so it would be larger. One of the second rings i fucked and made it .032. spent a minute deciding to run an old ring instead but looked at the big picture and decided to run the little bastard. I chamfered only the rings i ground bigger and only that side.

The goats oil ring is a little bitch. I hope i can compress them easily. its super stiff with the coil in the middle.

Was going to hang the pistons tonight but couldn't decide which way they should be hung. anyone want to chime in on which way the tang should sit? They are rpm rods but i think i should do em like most ie rods. tang inwards towards the intake ports of the head. anyone want to chime in?

Monty23
07-16-2014, 07:12 AM
Like this guy shows:



Sucess! Thanks youtube and the creator (jazzpur) of this video (skip to 4:26 for explanation of wrist pin clip reinstall):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ZEHoOJ_tCVI#t=265s

kingkhalilz
07-16-2014, 10:54 AM
thank you for The support!! My question was which direction should The rods be hung. Tang inwards of The engine or outward.



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landfill
07-16-2014, 02:43 PM
What did your crankshaft endplay end up being?

kingkhalilz
07-16-2014, 04:44 PM
That i did not Check. I dont have a gauge for that, however The old thrust bearings where really nice, so nothing told me To worry and Check. The crank and rod clearences are both .001 maybe a little less.

I wish i could loosen them up a bit but it will be fine, this aint perfect.

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kingkhalilz
07-17-2014, 04:07 PM
So where does this metal piece go? Im thinking it keeps yhe roller on The chain, but im not sure. Does it go behind The other dowel pin?

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/18/9ypurype.jpg

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zillarob
07-17-2014, 09:06 PM
It goes on the other side of the roll pin in the pic to keep tension on the chain.

kingkhalilz
07-17-2014, 09:17 PM
Dude, thank you
was thinking that

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MacDaddy
07-18-2014, 01:15 AM
Is this with a new flywheel and aggressive clutch? I'm thinking its going to be okay.

it was a 60hp tercel, i cant imagine it being any better in a high HP/torque application.

aysix
07-18-2014, 03:25 AM
Had To deck The block and will surface The heads. Im a little scared in The compression ratio field. I will be around 9.6. On 91 with meth i think this might Work out okay, but not ideal. May keep The boost at 25 lbs.

probably a good idea to lower it further

kingkhalilz
07-18-2014, 09:23 AM
Yeah, shortly after that post i decided on 034 thick head gasket. Drop me a full point. i should be at 8.5

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kingkhalilz
07-18-2014, 11:12 AM
I think hex head bolts go here but im not sure. This is My last hiccup im hoping.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/19/a3uhumyj.jpg
Hard To see in The picture but its The two semetrical ones on The upper Oil pan.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/19/7a4a8uhe.jpg
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Monty23
07-18-2014, 11:18 AM
Those were socket head cap screws bud. Prob M8 x 24mm iirc.

kingkhalilz
07-18-2014, 06:27 PM
What To you mean? Normal hex head bolts??

Besides that, which im still figuring out and

finding this bastard that still isnt deep enough for two of The head bolts, i have To take cam caps off To get them
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besides that progress is good. Will torque headbolts tonight, and try To get exhaust manfold and turbo on. Maybe The front cover too.

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Gunna paint valve covers tonight as well. Thanks for everyones help so far!

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kingkhalilz
07-19-2014, 01:16 PM
Also dont know where this goes. Scared To go any further.till i figure it out.
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aysix
07-19-2014, 01:20 PM
Also dont know where this goes. Scared To go any further.till i figure it out.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/20/naqy6u8a.jpg

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behind the motor over the rear main seal, you will see a spot! This line feeds the turbos!

kingkhalilz
07-19-2014, 02:28 PM
okay thats important. Thanks!

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kingkhalilz
07-19-2014, 11:21 PM
Got a ton further. Did a little bit of clearencing, not necessary but did it anyway.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/20/rajazeva.jpg

Got Oil and coolant feed lines hooked up. Srm Oil lines are good quality. And return Oil and coolant lines as well.

Went To put boost pressure lines on and..

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one of The bolts was clogged with metal chunks and The other was makeshift bolt drilled out hollow and shit.

I will be headed To The j yard tomorrow To save myself a ton of time and money. I just hope it doesnt take a year To pull.

I couldnt figure out where The boost pressure lines connect To tho. worst case i find out tomorrow when pulling them.

Thanks for all The help and support!!

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kingkhalilz
07-20-2014, 03:12 PM
J yard went super well. Got everything i need plus n249 valve incase its been deleted before. Best part it was only 10 bucks :)

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aysix
07-20-2014, 03:22 PM
Put some real wastegate lines on there please dont use that OEM silicone tube

kingkhalilz
07-20-2014, 04:55 PM
Real waste gate lines? Is there a problem with The oem lines? I inspected The ones i just pulled and they look real good.

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jibberjive
07-21-2014, 08:03 PM
OEM lines are fine if they are not torn.

zillarob
07-21-2014, 08:46 PM
Shit aint rocket science, but the 2.7 is def shark infested waters.
Not trying to be a dick, but there have been a few questions asked in this thread that would have me betting on the under.
Anything worth doing is worth doing twice, but its a bitch to get back in there on these cars.

kingkhalilz
07-21-2014, 09:06 PM
Thanks zillarob for The advice. You have been a great help. I am by no means a mechanic or mechanically skilled. This is My first engine build.

Im proud do be able To do this much on My own with The help of you folks. Definatly know this stuff a lot better then me. However, i enjoy this stuff and i have To learn it somehow!!

Updates. The pictures speek for themselves. Need a few things from j yard still. Fan and some better looking timing covers.

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flywheel bolts done 60nm plus 90 plus 90

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The mystery as To what happened To The poor k04s is depicted in this picture. Didnt have a boost gauge would have saved The turbos. this is why i went with oem wastegate lines. That and i dont know what To use instead for that tight configuration.

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zillarob
07-21-2014, 09:15 PM
Hell ya, just keeping you on your toes!
You gatts this, but dont get caught slippin!

jibberjive
07-21-2014, 09:21 PM
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I would use an oetiker clamp on these, not screw drive worm clamp. And with the melted line, anything non-metal that is in proximity to the exhaust manifolds should have fire sleeving on it as well.

zillarob
07-21-2014, 09:40 PM
That is one of the sharks previously mentioned.
Those things will raw dog you in the ass if you give them a chance. Good catch jib.

kingkhalilz
07-21-2014, 09:47 PM
I will get those clamps. there was a section i was going To put heat cloth for insulation but it was so bulky it touched The exhaust. I am going To spend more time with that. Thanks jib

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kingkhalilz
07-22-2014, 10:30 PM
Got The pressure plate reset and on. Totally forgot rs6 flange. It didnt even go through My head. I will have To cut The flange off The exhaust i purchased and try To get a tack in The pipe and flange for The orientation. This is going To be very difficult To bolt on when The motor is in The car. Biggest fear at this point.

Big thanks To sean (srm) been very helpful, getting me some flanges.

I will resume tomorrow and hopefully have her in The car.

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kingkhalilz
07-28-2014, 02:51 PM
Getting The last little things done tonight. I want To start her tonight. Need To get ic pipes hooked up and The shifter re adjusted.

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kingkhalilz
07-29-2014, 05:16 PM
Might pull motor tonight or atleast start. Coolant leak right at the driver side turbo feed line. The one with a little adapter on it.

Tightened them good, not sure whats going on. Gunna count washers via etka and make sure thats straight


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zillarob
07-29-2014, 08:37 PM
Those things can be hit or miss and def take a bit of feel.

Too loose and they leak.
Too tight and they can break the bolt.
I have even pulled them out with the banjo surfaces concave from being ape fisted.

kingkhalilz
07-29-2014, 08:56 PM
Is it posible to do this one without pulling it?? Thinking about making a tool :)

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zillarob
07-29-2014, 09:08 PM
Not that I know of.
That one is tight even with it out.

kingkhalilz
07-29-2014, 11:17 PM
Gunna try and take the turbo off the manifold and get crows foot on it. If that doesnt work I will pull the ******.



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kingkhalilz
07-30-2014, 06:05 PM
Well, tightened up the banjo bolt without pulling the motor crows foot helped a lot. put some pressure behind it from the coolant tank and it held for the most part.

Went to fire it up and the starter will run for about a second or two and click off. Charging the battery now hoping that fixes it. I'm starting to think i got some wires backwards between starter and alternator. I hope not, but thats the way im leaning. Needs to turn the motor over faster for sure to tell anything.

jaychen
07-31-2014, 12:20 AM
hopefully its just battery

kingkhalilz
07-31-2014, 09:20 PM
Just battery. But of course it wont start. I got the ground wire on the firewall connected and ground on pass side motor mount. Only 2 codes. Rear o2 and an evap.

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kingkhalilz
08-01-2014, 03:36 PM
got the evap to go away, getting stumped. Anyone ran into any little things that keeps her from running. Debating flywheel on wrong but, i hear you cant put them on wrong. Plenty of fuel. gunna get spark plugs however they are visually sparking. had crank lock pin in and cam lock bar on when i tightened the cam sprokets. It doesnt start and die, if you know what i mean. It will get a single putt if i go at it for a while. Kinda stumped.

Any suggestions??

kingkhalilz
08-01-2014, 04:07 PM
Well she ran. I cut it off after a second looking for leaks and stuff. Found a drop of oil off turbo feed line pass side. Im gunna tighten it up anyway.

The culprit was these wires backwards.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/02/8e2etyju.jpg

And the line im tightening up if you can see.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/02/a7esu6a7.jpg

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kingkhalilz
08-01-2014, 11:38 PM
Well driver side feed oil line is leaking. I have had so many problems with these banjo bolts....

Taking no further actions than pulling the motor to clean up every banjo. I will make sure they hold pressure and dont leak. I ran the car so far for about 15 seconds when I saw the drips.

Motor is basically out, just need to take down pipes off. Took less than 5 hrs to get to this point. Im very pleased how much easier the second time around it is.

Pictures tomorrow.

Thanks for all the support, sometimes you gotta bite the bullet.

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aysix
08-02-2014, 02:35 AM
Check to see if the pressure fittings on the srm oil feed lines are tight

kingkhalilz
08-02-2014, 10:13 AM
I think they where okay, pretty sure the banjo bolt is the problem. But I will check it all of course

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kingkhalilz
08-02-2014, 12:38 PM
Aysix, they where not tight. Thank you!

I am getting new washers for the leakers as well. Not sure if they are copper or what.

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kingkhalilz
08-03-2014, 08:35 PM
Well motor is back in. I still dont feel super good about the banjo bolts. They do not feel like normal bolts at all. its hard to tell if they are tight. I believe they will be okay though.

Some coolant, little bit more oil and we will see what happens.

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kingkhalilz
08-03-2014, 10:08 PM
Well she ran down the street and back, got her warm I know i.didnt put enough coolant in her. She went about an eighth past the middlr on the temp. I will tighten head bolts tomorrow per eurospec.

accesorries belt got kicked off too. I think something with power steering pump will get that figured Out too. Take it for one more quick drive and change the oil and filter. also gotta adjust the shifter linkage.



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kingkhalilz
08-04-2014, 07:46 PM
Huge vacuum leak! boost gauge reading like 5hg or less it dies too. sprayed wd40 to see if i could track it down but no luck. idle is shit

kingkhalilz
08-12-2014, 03:20 PM
Getting a lot of little things wrapped up. Been driving it now a little bit. Vag

VAG-COM Version: Release 409.1-S

Control Module Part Number: 4B0 907 551 K
Component and/or Version: 2.7l V6/5VT 0005
Software Coding: 06612
Work Shop Code: WSC 00000
8 Faults Found:
17862 - Exhaust Gas Temp Sensor 1 (G235): Short to Ground
P1454 - 35-00 - -
17927 - Camshaft Adjustment: Bank 1: Malfunction
P1519 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
17867 - Exhaust Gas Temp Sensor 2 (G236): Implausible Signal
P1459 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
17963 - Charge Pressure: Maximum Limit Exceeded
P1555 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

The other faults are 02 sensors not worried about them.
Looks like both egt's are shot, one was bent bad so i figured. Also Cam adjust bank1. Doing some research it seems like this is not a good code to be throwing. Either timing is off or tensioner is bad.

I blocks 91,92,93 vag com doesnt like to connect to the controller when the car is running. However i did get to see some values at the angles 2 and -2. Acording to other threads this is within spec. I highly doubt my timing is off anyway cam lock bar and crank lock pin was used. Before i replace the tensioner im going to try and get vag com to stay connected to the controller while the car is on.

As far as the charge pressure code, the car drives terrible i think its in safe mode. It hits 10 lbs and flutters down and then hardly boosts at all from there. This is with the n75 plugged in. No boost leaks, i have boost leak tested the shit out of the car.

waB5S4
08-12-2014, 05:04 PM
I'm probably worrying for nothing but kicking the accessory belt off somehow followed by the vacuum issue and additional codes.. Maybe you should do a quick compression test.

kingkhalilz
08-12-2014, 07:43 PM
Haha sounds Hella sketchy, I had the pulley on backwards. I got everything figured out up until my last post. just tensionet and limp mode overboost deal
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kingkhalilz
08-16-2014, 07:40 PM
So I have put 100 miles on her. Only thing besides those codes when I turn the car off let it sit for a minute the coolant temp will rise, when I turn it on it will go back to normal. Searched around some say its normal, I dont like it and thought there was an afterrun pump. If anyone can shed light, that would be great!

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jaychen
08-16-2014, 07:57 PM
My old car used to do this.

It is normal, there is no air flowing and the coolant isn't pumping.

Get a low temp afterrun switch (forget part number but they are like $25 on ebay).

Swap the other coolant sensors too since they are cheap and if the problem persists swap to the JHM EFK. That will definitely fix everything

kingkhalilz
08-16-2014, 08:10 PM
I might already have the `switch` the electrical fan stays running for a long time however I dont hear a pump on or coolant moving.
Thanks!!
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jaychen
08-17-2014, 04:13 AM
I'm not entirely sure if they are independent of one another, but suffice to say if its over 90*c then something isn't right.

Test the after-run on a bench. see if it works.

kingkhalilz
08-19-2014, 09:38 PM
I do have an after run switch the blue one! And i can hear the afterrun pump kick on, however it has not solved my problem.

I have a front mount intercooler and only one electrical fan that for some reason does not run all the time even when the temp is above 90. I think im going to be needing another fan for sure. Then if that has not solved my problem i will point my finger at the after run pump.

kingkhalilz
10-29-2014, 02:21 PM
Got over 1,000 miles on her, been sitting for over a month cause i bricked the ecu and couldn't get it figured out. Daz helped. I have learned so much about tuning all i have been doing is reading over there. I Have a bunch of little things ordered to fix some of these small things. Want to get them all buttoned up before i go searching for power.

disrepos
11-29-2014, 03:33 AM
Got over 1,000 miles on her, been sitting for over a month cause i bricked the ecu and couldn't get it figured out. Daz helped. I have learned so much about tuning all i have been doing is reading over there. I Have a bunch of little things ordered to fix some of these small things. Want to get them all buttoned up before i go searching for power.

I can help with the bricked ECUs. Worse case, I have a pack of AM29F800BB Flash chips and a GQ-4X chip flasher......

But only if the Broncos take down your Aggies tonight!