Show me your B7 aftermarket Nav installs-

[philaboy]

Any pics will help!

[fly300kts]

Better than a picture


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1HGHheeZ0s

Phil

[cheemn]

Which one is this phil? Dynavin? Another one? I thought you had factory navi.

[Ornithology]

Great thread for my curiosity

[papadelogan]

I'm running a Pioneer AppRadio3 with my Samsung Galaxy S3 as the source for my navigation.

[fly300kts]

Which one is this phil? Dynavin? Another one? I thought you had factory navi.

I had the OEM RSNE
Since the NAV disc is so expensive and unit has limited option, I went on the dark but better side
This unit is amazing and not sure where to start:

Touch Screen
CAN BUS (you keep your steering wheel command) and you can customize or reassign them as well.
GPS (windows based) with free life time upgrade with red lights camera maps included
VIM enabled
DVD region free
Rear view camera (this was an option) but unit is fully capable as you will see on the video
Micro SD slot in front (I have a 64gb disc there to play all my music videos)
USB via extension cable to run additional hard drive with movies for example
IPOD cable that I use with an ipod with all my songs. If a buddy jumps in, he can stream his music via Bluetooth
Micro USB on face plate: great to charge anything you need
I am in the process of installing an additional HD radio module

CAN BUS

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/IMG_1782_zpsd33e52cc.jpg (http://s31.photobucket.com/user/fly300kts/media/IMG_1782_zpsd33e52cc.jpg.html)

Now, on previous post, people told me that it's a Dynavin or something else (I don't remember). I simply do not know.
What I know is the box does not say Dynavin anywhere. You can find units looking the same but I can certify they are the same. Got the unit from a customer who sells them.

Let me know if any other question I can answer

[naiku]

^^ You should post a review of this unit in the Car Audio section. Fairly often there are people in there asking what the quality on those units is like, having a review from a well known member will go a long way to helping people decide.

Back on topic, I don't have any recent pictures but have a Nexus 7 as my aftermarket navigation/head unit. Works perfectly, the only thing I have lost coming from a stock radio is information on the DIS (which happens with pretty much all aftermarket units).

[Obsidian]

Now, on previous post, people told me that it's a Dynavin or something else (I don't remember). I simply do not know.
What I know is the box does not say Dynavin anywhere. You can find units looking the same but I can certify they are the same. Got the unit from a customer who sells them.

Let me know if any other question I can answer

Does this customer have a website? [:D]

[fly300kts]

Does this customer have a website? [:D]

Not that I know of but I can ask

Phil

[cheemn]

I noticed that this is VERY similar to Dynavin but not a Dynavin cause of location of the micro sd slots and the usb connection on the faceplate. Dyanvin has not had anything new for 2 years and is overpriced in my opinion so this might be another possibly better option.

[Ornithology]

Not that I know of but I can ask

Phil

How much is it? I'll take one! :)

I wish the main screen can look like the Dynavin one though. The Dynavin one looks like a Windows 8 kind of platform.

[fly300kts]

I need to ask him for how much he sells them for

Phil

[Inked]

Your teasing them Phil... Flaunting something they can't have.... yet LOL

[AKO]

The functionality of Phil's unit is awesome. I just dont like that design the buttons do not match up with anything else in the interior. The whole shape is just funny and would bug me

[fly300kts]

The functionality of Phil's unit is awesome. I just dont like that design the buttons do not match up with anything else in the interior. The whole shape is just funny and would bug me

The guy has also the same setup with RNSE face but when compared side by side, the one looks much better

[Jack_A4_2.0T]

I'm running a Pioneer AppRadio3 with my Samsung Galaxy S3 as the source for my navigation.
How do you like the appradio 3? I'm thinking about getting it soon

[JPT]

Phil, did you lose navi instructions on the dash? If so, that is a deal breaker for me. On and can that unit get XM/Sirius?

[Viktor Vaughn]

*Subscribes*

[AKO]

The guy has also the same setup with RNSE face but when compared side by side, the one looks much better

Now that RNSE face sounds interesting! What did you like more about the setup you have now? Let us know if your buddy plans on selling more of them! The interface itself is amazing. Oh and i keep forgetting to place a damn order for some clear corner caps haha

[fly300kts]

Phil, did you lose navi instructions on the dash? If so, that is a deal breaker for me. On and can that unit get XM/Sirius?

For now yes, you loose the display feedback but this should be addressed by soft upgrade to be normally released in March. To be honest, it really does not bother me.
For XM and Sirus, you should be able to use the AUX function. I will use the same for the HD radio

Phil

[JPT]

For now yes, you loose the display feedback but this should be addressed by soft upgrade to be normally released in March. To be honest, it really does not bother me.
For XM and Sirus, you should be able to use the AUX function. I will use the same for the HD radio

Phil

Thanks. Is there a module for that manufacturer. Or do you mean getting a receiver and connecting it through the aux input?

[fly300kts]

Now that RNSE face sounds interesting! What did you like more about the setup you have now? Let us know if your buddy plans on selling more of them! The interface itself is amazing. Oh and i keep forgetting to place a damn order for some clear corner caps haha

This face looks like the 2013 Symphony with the chrome buttons and overhaul looks more symmetrical.

Phil

[fly300kts]

Thanks. Is there a module for that manufacturer. Or do you mean getting a receiver and connecting it through the aux input?

Here are all the cable provided

IPOD

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/6C4A86B6-FCEE-44D7-B7C7-4352128ABE1B_zpsrzwy63qn.jpg (http://s31.photobucket.com/user/fly300kts/media/6C4A86B6-FCEE-44D7-B7C7-4352128ABE1B_zpsrzwy63qn.jpg.html)

Micro USB to standard USB

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/039CE516-9700-4AA7-89E8-4AE6E95118F6_zpsqhwably7.jpg (http://s31.photobucket.com/user/fly300kts/media/039CE516-9700-4AA7-89E8-4AE6E95118F6_zpsqhwably7.jpg.html)

AUX (you can you that one for the SAT module)

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/08AE6A94-6422-4BE8-8672-0024B3CC1F23_zpsyzqo5wxi.jpg (http://s31.photobucket.com/user/fly300kts/media/08AE6A94-6422-4BE8-8672-0024B3CC1F23_zpsyzqo5wxi.jpg.html)

Camera

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/CE5866C7-C21F-45B4-B177-0DBB1D7B569B_zpsdvyqqxjd.jpg (http://s31.photobucket.com/user/fly300kts/media/CE5866C7-C21F-45B4-B177-0DBB1D7B569B_zpsdvyqqxjd.jpg.html)

USB

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/A41EF305-8E69-448C-9DEB-004DED13069C_zpsowuy5u0j.jpg (http://s31.photobucket.com/user/fly300kts/media/A41EF305-8E69-448C-9DEB-004DED13069C_zpsowuy5u0j.jpg.html)

Car interface With a subwoofer input

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/8E206C68-56A9-4686-9D09-BB9B302AB229_zpsmz6t7sze.jpg (http://s31.photobucket.com/user/fly300kts/media/8E206C68-56A9-4686-9D09-BB9B302AB229_zpsmz6t7sze.jpg.html)

Phil

[Inked]

Can't wait to get mine!

[fly300kts]

Can't wait to get mine!

7 days to go...and you better be on time with all the work ahead

Phil

[Inked]

7 days to go...and you better be on time with all the work ahead

Phil

Always!

[JPT]

Phil,

Any way you can think of to integrate the OE Satellite module into this unit?

[fly300kts]

Phil,

Any way you can think of to integrate the OE Satellite module into this unit?

Not familiar with the OE connections for the modules so tough to say

Phil

[A3DLE]

This looks to be the same unit: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Audi-A4-S4-RS4-8E-8F-B9-B7-Seat-Exeo-Autoradio-Navigation-GPS-MP3-USB-SD-3D-DVBT-/231150592098?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item35d1a62062

[waiapasi2006]

May be a group buy can take place Phil.

[event]

I've seen the Dynavin a 100 times, was hoping to see a bunch of new setups... post em up people.


Phil, did you lose navi instructions on the dash? If so, that is a deal breaker for me. On and can that unit get XM/Sirius?

I actually don't like the nav instruction on the dash. Would rather have nav info on screen and computer info, etc on the dash. Why do I need nav in two locations?

[rnp614]

I need to ask him for how much he sells them for

Phil

Yeah I might be interested as well.

[JPT]

I've seen the Dynavin a 100 times, was hoping to see a bunch of new setups... post em up people.



I actually don't like the nav instruction on the dash. Would rather have nav info on screen and computer info, etc on the dash. Why do I need nav in two locations?

The problem with our "older" setups is our navi is too low for safe viewing while driving. Also notice where I am located, driving in this area is like group aviation aerobatics. Also up here, every street/highway exit is multiple (as in there are 2 right turns, on is just after), so the arrows on the dash are GREAT, it show if it is the next turn, or if it is further ahead (the small line coming off shows that there is at least 1 turn before your turn).

I can't remember the last time I actually looked at the navi screen, I 99% of the time use the dash.

[JPT]

Not familiar with the OE connections for the modules so tough to say

Phil

Well. If the only way to connect is Aux, then it would still require another tuner, and you wouldn't be able to control it from this navi. [=(]

[event]

I can't remember the last time I actually looked at the navi screen, I 99% of the time use the dash.

Heh, well everyone is different. The meter/distance till bar is a cool feature though.

[cheemn]

Phil. Is there an iphone 5 cable available from seller or would one need to buy the separate apple adapter? Also there is a rear camera input and one audio/video input or 2 audio/video inputs? Also is there a rear audio/video output that can supply video to my 2 headrest monitors that I already have in my car? Thanks Phil! [:)]

[fly300kts]

Phil. Is there an iphone 5 cable available from seller or would one need to buy the separate apple adapter? Also there is a rear camera input and one audio/video input or 2 audio/video inputs? Also is there a rear audio/video output that can supply video to my 2 headrest monitors that I already have in my car? Thanks Phil! [:)]


You have to buy the Iphone 5 adapter like I did
Video:
1 specific input for rear camera
1 input available to install front camera
Yes, output to run additional screens are present

Phil

[mccorkled]

Better than a picture


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1HGHheeZ0s

Phil

I have literally had 5 of these units. They all come with a different versions of WinCE and the interfaces are always different. The one that Phil posted is legit the best one. ZERO lag time and a great UI. I just wish they would finally put sat radio on these! I have the TV tuner, wifi dongle, and 3G dongle. Works like a champ.

This is the cheapest one I have found and it comes with a free rear camera.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171021723803?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[Inked]

I have literally had 5 of these units. They all come with a different versions of WinCE and the interfaces are always different. The one that Phil posted is legit the best one. ZERO lag time and a great UI. I just wish they would finally put sat radio on these! I have the TV tuner, wifi dongle, and 3G dongle. Works like a champ.

This is the cheapest one I have found and it comes with a free rear camera.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171021723803?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Phils comes with an Audi specific can bus though...

[Ornithology]

Whoa sweet! Thanks for the link. Is this the exact one Phil has??



I have literally had 5 of these units. They all come with a different versions of WinCE and the interfaces are always different. The one that Phil posted is legit the best one. ZERO lag time and a great UI. I just wish they would finally put sat radio on these! I have the TV tuner, wifi dongle, and 3G dongle. Works like a champ.

This is the cheapest one I have found and it comes with a free rear camera.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171021723803?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[Inked]

Whoa sweet! Thanks for the link. Is this the exact one Phil has??

No way to know for sure... It looks very similar but who knows with eBay.


Edit: one thing you do know for sure is Phils comes with a audi specific can bus(steering controls) , not a generic one like most of the other aftermarket navs come with.

[cheemn]

X2. I trust Phil on his opinions with anything B7 related. [az]

[fly300kts]

Whoa sweet! Thanks for the link. Is this the exact one Phil has??

Unit look the same but screens are different for sure so I would say no
As Ink posted and you can check the picture I previously posted, the unit I have has a specific CAN BUS

Phil

[stevengrande]

**Subscribed**

I have a Pioneer AppRadio (1st gen) that I got in trade for some parts. I was going to install that but I just hate that it looks like an aftermarket system. If Phil can broker the seller of his to sell to the rest of us, I will drop one of those in. Looks clean and OEM and the Audi specific Can-bus is a huge plus!

[Ornithology]

Unit look the same but screens are different for sure so I would say no
As Ink posted and you can check the picture I previously posted, the unit I have has a specific CAN BUS

Phil

In that case, patiently waiting...

[naiku]

Pretty sure this is the one that Phil has... $400, includes CAN BUS (http://www.stopshop.co.za/buy-audi-a4-dvd-gps-satnav/3232-audi-a4-navigation-dual-core-a8-cpu-3g-internet-gps-dvd-ipod-bluetooth-radio.html).

[Sonic.]

Hi Phil, how does it compare sound quality wise to the OEM RSNE?


I had the OEM RSNE
Since the NAV disc is so expensive and unit has limited option, I went on the dark but better side
This unit is amazing and not sure where to start:

Touch Screen
CAN BUS (you keep your steering wheel command) and you can customize or reassign them as well.
GPS (windows based) with free life time upgrade with red lights camera maps included
VIM enabled
DVD region free
Rear view camera (this was an option) but unit is fully capable as you will see on the video
Micro SD slot in front (I have a 64gb disc there to play all my music videos)
USB via extension cable to run additional hard drive with movies for example
IPOD cable that I use with an ipod with all my songs. If a buddy jumps in, he can stream his music via Bluetooth
Micro USB on face plate: great to charge anything you need
I am in the process of installing an additional HD radio module

CAN BUS

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/IMG_1782_zpsd33e52cc.jpg (http://s31.photobucket.com/user/fly300kts/media/IMG_1782_zpsd33e52cc.jpg.html)

Now, on previous post, people told me that it's a Dynavin or something else (I don't remember). I simply do not know.
What I know is the box does not say Dynavin anywhere. You can find units looking the same but I can certify they are the same. Got the unit from a customer who sells them.

Let me know if any other question I can answer

[fly300kts]

Hi Phil, how does it compare sound quality wise to the OEM RSNE?

LOL
My system is OEM non bose for info
Comparing the unit sound to the RSNE sound would be comparing these:

RNSE

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/dj_setup_zps40e0845c.jpg (http://s31.photobucket.com/user/fly300kts/media/dj_setup_zps40e0845c.jpg.html)

New Unit

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/BacktotheFuture_Speaker_zpse2f734e3.jpg (http://s31.photobucket.com/user/fly300kts/media/BacktotheFuture_Speaker_zpse2f734e3.jpg.html)

Phil

[B7Joe]

Subscribed. I would be interested in the unit with the Audi canbus, if Phil's contact makes them available.

[fly300kts]

The Customer comes to pick up his aircraft in 10 days so I should know more by then

Phil

[waiapasi2006]

Keep us updated Phil.

[Inked]

LOL
My system is OEM non bose for info
Comparing the unit sound to the RSNE sound would be comparing these:

RNSE

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/dj_setup_zps40e0845c.jpg (http://s31.photobucket.com/user/fly300kts/media/dj_setup_zps40e0845c.jpg.html)

New Unit

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/BacktotheFuture_Speaker_zpse2f734e3.jpg (http://s31.photobucket.com/user/fly300kts/media/BacktotheFuture_Speaker_zpse2f734e3.jpg.html)

Phil

Lol. Love the analogy

[djpaw]

7" Touch Screen, HD Radio, DVD, Bluetooth Handsfree, A2DP, Waze GPS, Rear Back Up Camera...Steering Buttons work......

AVH 8500 w/ APP Radio Android/iPhone ready..removable faceplate

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff56/djpawscivic/dash/im08hage_zpsb428ae9b.jpeg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff56/djpawscivic/dash/image_zps35a429a7.jpeg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff56/djpawscivic/dash/ima8ge_zpsd9121fa9.png

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff56/djpawscivic/dash/image_zpse5cd4b2d.jpeg

[Stackdeezy]

Subscribed!!

[peb]

Phil,

This is probably an obvious thing to ask, but if he doesn't have a website or number to order these from, could you see if you could broker a group buy?

[fly300kts]

Phil,

This is probably an obvious thing to ask, but if he doesn't have a website or number to order these from, could you see if you could broker a group buy?

I am not an official advertiser on the site and plan to respect the forum rules so don't get me in trouble here (been there and done that)
I will gather the information from my Customer and will let you know

Phil

[2pointOh]

7" Touch Screen, HD Radio, DVD, Bluetooth Handsfree, A2DP, Waze GPS, Rear Back Up Camera...Steering Buttons work......

AVH 8500 w/ APP Radio Android/iPhone ready..removable faceplate

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff56/djpawscivic/dash/im08hage_zpsb428ae9b.jpeg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff56/djpawscivic/dash/image_zps35a429a7.jpeg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff56/djpawscivic/dash/ima8ge_zpsd9121fa9.png

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff56/djpawscivic/dash/image_zpse5cd4b2d.jpeg

I'm looking at something similar, how did you get it to show the Audi on the screen?

Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk

[philaboy]

That unit looks good

[mccorkled]

Phils comes with an Audi specific can bus though...


I have bought a few of these and the can bus always works fine...

[djpaw]

I'm looking at something similar, how did you get it to show the Audi on the screen?

Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk

Changed the background ;)

[2pointOh]

Changed the background ;)

Hahah oh okay! I havent played with one in a store yet so idk what I can do with em

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[Inked]

I have bought a few of these and the can bus always works fine...

Oh. I've read on here quite a few times where people have posted about lag with the after market can bus or it being 'finicky'... Just made me form a bad opinion about them. I've never had any hands on experience with them

[Kingofskies]

I would be interested in the unit Phil has.

I've seen a bunch of other models, including one on the site naiku linked that looks sorta like an RNSE, but the GUI doesn't look as nice as the one Phil posted.
Mind if I ask if the price was comparable to the unit Naiku posted a link to?

Also, have you tested the bluetooth a2dp? Clean?

[fly300kts]

Also, have you tested the bluetooth a2dp? Clean?

Regarding the Bluetooth, unit comes with a built in MIC who works well. Also provided in the box an external MIC in case you are not satisfied with the built in one.
As far as Bluetooth streaming, A@DP, simply flawless and perfect

Something I found today: I have a bunch of music video clips (360 clips = 42GB) copied to a 64 GB micro SD, inserted at the bottom right slot of the unit.
With the left button located on the wheel, you can scroll between the clips or scroll from the touch screen.... but he gets better: like you do on your computer music folder, press the "keyboard" icon on the screen and enter any letters of the title you want to listen: the unit will automatically index and find the clip for you. Pretty neat


Phil

[Inked]

Regarding the Bluetooth, unit comes with a built in MIC who works well. Also provided in the box an external MIC in case you are not satisfied with the built in one.
As far as Bluetooth streaming, A@DP, simply flawless and perfect

Something I found today: I have a bunch of music video clips (360 clips = 42GB) copied to a 64 GB micro SD, inserted at the bottom right slot of the unit.
With the left button located on the wheel, you can scroll between the clips or scroll from the touch screen.... but he gets better: like you do on your computer music folder, press the "keyboard" icon on the screen and enter any letters of the title you want to listen: the unit will automatically index and find the clip for you. Pretty neat


Phil

Wow. Gets better and better lol.

[Kingofskies]

Alright. I'm in. Sounds really good for an aftermarket unit!

[designandride]

I've been looking at the unit here:

http://www.stopshop.co.za/buy-audi-a4-dvd-gps-satnav/3232-audi-a4-navigation-dual-core-a8-cpu-3g-internet-gps-dvd-ipod-bluetooth-radio.html

Can anyone explain why it says Bose Supported: No
I have the RNS-E with Bose speakers. Can the unit above be easily swapped with the RNS-E?

[mccorkled]

Regarding the Bluetooth, unit comes with a built in MIC who works well. Also provided in the box an external MIC in case you are not satisfied with the built in one.
As far as Bluetooth streaming, A@DP, simply flawless and perfect

Something I found today: I have a bunch of music video clips (360 clips = 42GB) copied to a 64 GB micro SD, inserted at the bottom right slot of the unit.
With the left button located on the wheel, you can scroll between the clips or scroll from the touch screen.... but he gets better: like you do on your computer music folder, press the "keyboard" icon on the screen and enter any letters of the title you want to listen: the unit will automatically index and find the clip for you. Pretty neat


Phil

I have used both the built in mic and the plug in mic and both work mediocre. The plug in mic works better but people have told me it sounds like I am in a tunnel. Any issues or thoughts Phil?

[fly300kts]

I have used both the built in mic and the plug in mic and both work mediocre. The plug in mic works better but people have told me it sounds like I am in a tunnel. Any issues or thoughts Phil?

To be honest, no such report with mine.
Again, I will be installing another unit this WE so I will be able to test with a fellow Ziner

Phil

[V2Rider]

I've been looking at the unit here:

http://www.stopshop.co.za/buy-audi-a4-dvd-gps-satnav/3232-audi-a4-navigation-dual-core-a8-cpu-3g-internet-gps-dvd-ipod-bluetooth-radio.html

Can anyone explain why it says Bose Supported: No
I have the RNS-E with Bose speakers. Can the unit above be easily swapped with the RNS-E?

^^ This is a make or break deal for me as well. I won't give up my Bose :/

[fly300kts]

I've been looking at the unit here:

http://www.stopshop.co.za/buy-audi-a4-dvd-gps-satnav/3232-audi-a4-navigation-dual-core-a8-cpu-3g-internet-gps-dvd-ipod-bluetooth-radio.html

Can anyone explain why it says Bose Supported: No
I have the RNS-E with Bose speakers. Can the unit above be easily swapped with the RNS-E?

I forwarded your link to my Customer and his feedback is because the units sold at that price do not come with CAN BUS, even if the auction shows CANBUS = yes. The CANBUS might be present but not specific to the A4? Don't ask me, got no clue.
No further details but I will ask for more when I see him but it seems that there is a go around with Symphony setups but a no go with Bose systems

Phil

[designandride]

That's the most expensive unit that fits the B7 A4s... This is definitely a bit scary to order as it's not really clear. I'm basically looking for something to get me proper working bluetooth and AD2P bluetooth support, as my current bluetooth module seems to be messed up (thread: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/580962-RNS-E-Bluetooth-connection-issues-including-no-chimes). Any recommendations on a bluetooth module swap then? I've seen this in other threads but I'm not 100% clear on what works.

[waiapasi2006]

@ designandride,
Did you try resetting you whole system?
I read you pulled some fuses.
Unplug the HU for a few minutes and see what happens.

[T_Glass_27]

I hope your guy comes through for us Phil! Sounds like we have plenty of orders for him! haha

[designandride]

@waiapasi2006

How do I unplug the head unit...?

[Inked]

I hope your guy comes through for us Phil! Sounds like we have plenty of orders for him! haha

Phils installing mine tomorrow. I'll post a review on Sunday.

[cheemn]

Phils installing mine tomorrow. I'll post a review on Sunday.

Jealous Phil can install anything on your car. I live WAY up north. [:|]

[Inked]

Jealous Phil can install anything on your car. I live WAY up north. [:|]

Lol Ya fuck the north. I'm never leaving Florida, I have to much fun in the sun.

Bout a 2.5 hr drive down from central FL where I'm at to Phil in the MIA, but well worth it for me to have someone experienced as him who cares about what he's working on vs a dealer who could give a fuck and charge an arm and a leg .

Getting timing belt done tomorrow as well. I just don't have the confidence nor tools to attempt a timing change by myself. I'll stick with the oil changes and what not haha.

[Ornithology]

patiently waiting....

[fly300kts]

patiently waiting....

LOL, no other choice I guess

Phil

[V2Rider]

Jealous Phil can install anything on your car. I live WAY up north. [:|]

I feel your pain.......maybe even more so in MN

[wildcat333]

Interested to see what displays if someone connects Sirius/XM Satellite to this - would it display song name and artist?

[V2Rider]

Interested to see what displays if someone connects Sirius/XM Satellite to this - would it display song name and artist?

I wish my damn CD player would display song name, it just says 1 2 3 4 5 6 ect.. on my NAV Plus

[mccorkled]

You cannot hook up satellite radio to these as far as I know.

[kegobeer]

I wish my damn CD player would display song name, it just says 1 2 3 4 5 6 ect.. on my NAV Plus

It can't read ID3 tags, so no love on song/album/artist info.

[Inked]

Well I would review mine except we didn't make it that far this past Saturday lol. Got side track with the cluster fuck that I call my front end...

[Ornithology]

Well I would review mine except we didn't make it that far this past Saturday lol. Got side track with the cluster fuck that I call my front end...

Review!!

[fly300kts]

I dropped him at the rental car place and he saw what my unit can do so I let him comment

[Inked]

I dropped him at the rental car place and he saw what my unit can do so I let him comment

Yes tho 'technically' I don't have mine I got to experience phils on the way to the rental place (boooo) first hand and I have to say it's bad ass.

No lag at all. Quickly connected my phone to blue tooth, loaded all my contacts, etc. The blue tooth music sounds phenomenal, tho Phil now has me addicted to downloading music vids lol. I love the fact that you can listen to the music and look down and have the music video playing also, so I've just downloaded 56 vids Lmao

Honestly it's a beauty, looks and Performs like oem (or faster lol)

Edit: also forgot to mention what a night and day difference it makes in sound quality. I didn't realize how much the oem head unit held the non-bose speakers back...

[Ornithology]

Phil stop teasing us like this...


Yes tho 'technically' I don't have mine I got to experience phils on the way to the rental place (boooo) first hand and I have to say it's bad ass.

No lag at all. Quickly connected my phone to blue tooth, loaded all my contacts, etc. The blue tooth music sounds phenomenal, tho Phil now has me addicted to downloading music vids lol. I love the fact that you can listen to the music and look down and have the music video playing also, so I've just downloaded 56 vids Lmao

Honestly it's a beauty, looks and Performs like oem (or faster lol)

Edit: also forgot to mention what a night and day difference it makes in sound quality. I didn't realize how much the oem head unit held the non-bose speakers back...

[fly300kts]

Inked left me his car due to the fans and control module issues. Since I am waiting for the spares to arrive, took the opportunity to install the second unit on his car and here is a little tease for him.
Install took 5 mn
Since I am a nice guy, I am also fixing his busted glove box

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/6AC11D89-F476-47E0-A23F-7043179DE7E0_zps3exvyvs2.jpg (http://s31.photobucket.com/user/fly300kts/media/6AC11D89-F476-47E0-A23F-7043179DE7E0_zps3exvyvs2.jpg.html)

Phil

[Inked]

Inked left me his car due to the fans and control module issues. Since I am waiting for the spares to arrive, took the opportunity to install the second unit on his car and here is a little tease for him.
Install took 5 mn
Since I am a nice guy, I am also fixing his busted glove box

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/6AC11D89-F476-47E0-A23F-7043179DE7E0_zps3exvyvs2.jpg (http://s31.photobucket.com/user/fly300kts/media/6AC11D89-F476-47E0-A23F-7043179DE7E0_zps3exvyvs2.jpg.html)

Phil

TORTUREEEEEEE!

You the man Phil! Really appreciate it.

[camyz125]

Now I'm all interested in this. This is a simple plug and play install for someone with the symphony ii?

[fly300kts]

Now I'm all interested in this. This is a simple plug and play install for someone with the symphony ii?

Yes Sir

[Inked]

Can't wait.

[Kingofskies]

Did a price on these awesome units ever materialize? Or are we waiting on that too?

[fly300kts]

Did a price on these awesome units ever materialize? Or are we waiting on that too?

Waiting on that too

Phil

[Inked]

Waiting on that too

Phil

Lol

[fly300kts]

Lol

You can feel lucky that I was able to get you one

Phil

[Inked]

You can feel lucky that I was able to get you one

Phil

Yes very lucky, like I hit the lottery!

[kegobeer]

Yes very lucky, like I hit the lottery!

Only if the nav unit is a freebie, Inked. Otherwise, it's like getting a car on Oprah - you gotta pay for it, hahaha.

[Inked]

Only if the nav unit is a freebie, Inked. Otherwise, it's like getting a car on Oprah - you gotta pay for it, hahaha.

Lol, I hear you. After seeing it in person it's definitely lottery status!

[Ornithology]

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=181305998559

This is the Can-bus adapter?

So we need this in addition to the head unit? Or does the head unit include that too?

[fly300kts]

Yup

[shadowinstallz]

Pioneer avic-x940bt
Pac-c2r-audi
40eu56
Used scosche kit au2391b with some modification because it actually held.
The metra one has no real mounting points

Advanced MECP

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/19/2ujedyta.jpg

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk

[cheemn]

If you have a symphony 2, you will need this adapter

Symphony 2+ doesn't need this correct? Or any other adapters?

[fly300kts]

Nope, nothing else

Phil

[V2Rider]

Stupid Bose [mad]

[Inked]

Phil,
What makes the bose systems different? Is it the connectors on the harness?

[Inked]

Pioneer avic-x940bt
Pac-c2r-audi
40eu56
Used scosche kit au2391b with some modification because it actually held.
The metra one has no real mounting points

Advanced MECP

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/19/2ujedyta.jpg

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk

Looks good. This was my second choice, if the other fell thru. I've always liked the pioneers.

[fly300kts]

Phil,
What makes the bose systems different? Is it the connectors on the harness?

To be honest, I am 99% sure that the unit I installed ( again, that specific one) will work with a bose system

Phil

[Inked]

To be honest, I am 99% sure that the unit I installed ( again, that specific one) will work with a bose system

Phil

Gotcha..normally it's the adapters that would change but I was thinking the same that the unit should be able to work with bose.

Bad thing is there has to be a guinea pig that might have to buy multiple adapters to see which works...

[fly300kts]

If I can get another unit, I will look for an A4 with Bose system to test and confirm

Phil

[Inked]

If I can get another unit, I will look for an A4 with Bose system to test and confirm

Phil

That's what I was thinking... Unit #3! Haha

[rnp614]

If I can get another unit, I will look for an A4 with Bose system to test and confirm

Phil

I may try an install on a A4 with Bose myself actually so I can keep people posted.

[fly300kts]

I may try an install on a A4 with Bose myself actually so I can keep people posted.

Careful to pick a unit who has a specific CAN bus for the A4, provided with the unit harness

Phil

[V2Rider]

Phil, if you werent on the other side of the US, I would let you test it on my Bose.

Sometimes I hate MN

lol

[JR_WA]

http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/10172/smiley-face-popcorn.gif (http://www.smileyvault.com/) I'll be waiting for the Bose test too.

[rnp614]

Careful to pick a unit who has a specific CAN bus for the A4, provided with the unit harness

Phil

If I buy I'll be buying from Dynavin themselves so I think they'll hook me up with the right stuff. I hope.

Raj

[Inked]

If I buy I'll be buying from Dynavin themselves so I think they'll hook me up with the right stuff. I hope.

Raj

The very newest dynavin unit looks the most promising but a little pricey for a risk....

http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?nav=item.view&id=261353012058

[fly300kts]

If I buy I'll be buying from Dynavin themselves so I think they'll hook me up with the right stuff. I hope.

Raj

You make the assumption that the unit I have is a Dynavin while I keep saying that it's not (read thread from beginning)

Phil

[fly300kts]

http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/10172/smiley-face-popcorn.gif (http://www.smileyvault.com/) I'll be waiting for the Bose test too.

Just PM'ed 2 locals and both are non-bose [facepalm]

Phil

[cheemn]

The very newest dynavin unit looks the most promising but a little pricey for a risk....

http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?nav=item.view&id=261353012058

Not that new at all. The d99+ has been out for 2 years now. Their android version of it is 2.2. It might as well be from the stone age. Its why I am interested in what Phil has since I am sick of waiting for a newer Dynavin.

[PNW Avant]

The bose system uses a bose amp for the front, rear, center speakers, and subwoofer. The head unit transmits LF, RF, LR, and RR signal via 4 signal wires to the bose amp, and they all share one ground signal.

In a non-bose system, the front speakers are powered directly from the head unit. The rear speakers and subwoofer are powered by an audi amplifier that is less powerful than the bose. Therefore, there is LF+, LF-, RF+,RF- that go to the door speakers. There are two signal wires and a common ground to the rear amp (RR, RL, common ground). Not sure how the center is powered in a non-bose set up.

Those are your differences and of course, the pin outs are different to due to these wiring differences.

[Inked]

Gotcha. I thought the d99 has been around forever...

But ya the one that Phil has is not dynavin

[Inked]

Just PM'ed 2 locals and both are non-bose [facepalm]

Phil

That's sucks... I'm anxious to see if the sound quality improves as much in the bose systems as well.

[Inked]

The bose system uses a bose amp for the front, rear, center speakers, and subwoofer. The head unit transmits LF, RF, LR, and RR signal via 4 signal wires to the bose amp, and they all share one ground signal.

In a non-bose system, the front speakers are powered directly from the head unit. The rear speakers and subwoofer are powered by an audi amplifier that is less powerful than the bose. Therefore, there is LF+, LF-, RF+,RF- that go to the door speakers. There are two signal wires and a common ground to the rear amp (RR, RL, common ground). Not sure how the center is powered in a non-bose set up.

Those are your differences and of course, the pin outs are different to due to these wiring differences.

Thanks for clearing this up for me.

Based off this, I'm confident the unit will work in a bose, the key is finding which harness is needed.

Bose might not have as noticeable sound quality difference tho.

[fly300kts]

Thanks for clearing this up for me.

Based off this, I'm confident the unit will work in a bose, the key is finding which harness is needed.

Bose might not have as noticeable sound quality difference tho.

And I bet unit will be plug and play with the harness provided, no need to by the additional one

Phil

[PNW Avant]

Thanks for clearing this up for me.

Based off this, I'm confident the unit will work in a bose, the key is finding which harness is needed.

Bose might not have as noticeable sound quality difference tho.

It actually is a little more dependent upon whether dynavin has speaker outs, or line-level outs, or both. It's really based on how the outputs of the unit are designed.

That said, with the right knowledge tools and parts you can get anything to work. Just depends how much you care.

[Inked]

It actually is a little more dependent upon whether dynavin has speaker outs, or line-level outs, or both. It's really based on how the outputs of the unit are designed.

That said, with the right knowledge tools and parts you can get anything to work. Just depends how much you care.

Understood. Just for the record, the unit Phil and I are discussing is not a dynavin but same basis applies, I get it.

Unit works phenomenal on non bose, for me it's just curiosity of the bose systems...

Thanks for the info, this is why I love forums.

[seal66]

If I can get another unit, I will look for an A4 with Bose system to test and confirm

Phil

If you get another unit Phil let me know. I am symp 2 with Bose all around.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

[PNW Avant]

snap a picture of the back of the unit or send a pin out diagram - should be pretty clear and we can go from there.

[rnp614]

How can we know what kind of unit this is then if it's not dynavin? It looks exactly the same? Are there just a bunch of random bootlegs with variable software?

[Ornithology]

If you have a symphony 2, you will need this adapter

Daarn how do I find out? I most likely have a symphony 2 but want to confirm.

[rnp614]

H. Now it's seeing that link to stop shop. And realizing it's largely different Han what dynavin offers. Damn. I have Bose too so I'm not sure how I'll proceed. Blargh. Love Phil's nav unit. If you end up in Nola let me know. :)

[cheemn]

Daarn how do I find out? I most likely have a symphony 2 but want to confirm.


Symphony 2 has cassette player
Symphony 2+ has multi disc headunit

[Inked]

How can we know what kind of unit this is then if it's not dynavin? It looks exactly the same? Are there just a bunch of random bootlegs with variable software?

This is 100‰ not a Dynavin. And yes there are a million bootlegs from China on eBay.

[Inked]

Daarn how do I find out? I most likely have a symphony 2 but want to confirm.

Not a big deal, the adapters only $25. And Phils got everything working flawless in mine, I had the Symphony (with cassette)so I needed the adapter.

On the phone yesterday with Phil, he's telling me the sound/sub quality has improved so much now I have vibrations all over the place. So I guess I will be buying some dynamat and some expanding foam to cut the vibrations down when I get it back...

[fly300kts]

If you get another unit Phil let me know. I am symp 2 with Bose all around.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

Sorry but the car will have to be local

Phil

[seal66]

Sorry but the car will have to be local

Phil

Gave it a shot. Forgot I have the symp 2+ with Bose. Good luck

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

[fly300kts]

Gave it a shot. Forgot I have the symp 2+ with Bose. Good luck

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

No problem, will keep you all posted
The Customer is now in Europe and I have no way to contact him.

Phil

[flyingfish2626]

Interested as well Phil....Symphony 2+ non bose

[Deckster]

No Sirius XM on these? :( I think a unicorn just died.

[Deckster]

Also, I have the Bose version with a symphony II+ put in.

[Ornithology]

Symphony 2 has cassette player
Symphony 2+ has multi disc headunit

Err...I have a multi-disc changer in my headunit...AND a cassette player...

[Inked]

Err...I have a multi-disc changer in my headunit...AND a cassette player...

That's the Symphony unit. Same as I had, unit works perfectly with the adapter.

[Deckster]

That's the Symphony unit. Same as I had, unit works perfectly with the adapter.

So I had a symphony II but went up to the symphony II+ which I got an adapter for and did some wire work. Will it work with that or nah?

[fly300kts]

So I had a symphony II but went up to the symphony II+ which I got an adapter for and did some wire work. Will it work with that or nah?

Should

Phil

[Deckster]

Should

Phil

Okay cool! Sign me up as well. :D

[milk]

No problem, will keep you all posted
The Customer is now in Europe and I have no way to contact him.

Phil

Nooooo! Anxiously waiting to see if the one you and Inked have is the same as the stopshop.co.za link...

If we can figure out how to purchase the one you two have I will get one right away!

[Inked]

Nooooo! Anxiously waiting to see if the one you and Inked have is the same as the stopshop.co.za link...

If we can figure out how to purchase the one you two have I will get one right away!

It's not the same, but it's coming. Be patient. Don't take a risk and buy a unit that appears the same, just wait and get the one that's been reviewed and tested.

[milk]

It's not the same, but it's coming. Be patient. Don't take a risk and buy a unit that appears the same, just wait and get the one that's been reviewed and tested.

Yeah definitely won't buy until we can get a confirmation on which to buy. Really like the one you two have.

Thanks for posting it up fly!

[fly300kts]

Nooooo! Anxiously waiting to see if the one you and Inked have is the same as the stopshop.co.za link...

If we can figure out how to purchase the one you two have I will get one right away!

No sure how many times I will have to repeat the same things but once again, it's not because the unit look the same on your website that we have the same.
Our units have specific CAN BUS (A3/A4) attached to the provided harness. Don't wait confirmation from me that the unit you found on that website is the same

Phil

[milk]

No sure how many times I will have to repeat the same things but once again, it's not because the unit look the same on your website that we have the same.
Our units have specific CAN BUS (A3/A4) attached to the provided harness. Don't wait confirmation from me that the unit you found on that website is the same

Phil

Sorry for missing that. Subscribed and waiting to see if there is a way to purchase the model you have with the correct CAN BUS.

Thanks

[fly300kts]

Sorry for missing that. Subscribed and waiting to see if there is a way to purchase the model you have with the correct CAN BUS.

Thanks

I will let you know and if possible
Phil

[Ornithology]

No sure how many times I will have to repeat the same things but once again, it's not because the unit look the same on your website that we have the same.
Our units have specific CAN BUS (A3/A4) attached to the provided harness. Don't wait confirmation from me that the unit you found on that website is the same

Phil

Well I've waited this long, I'm definitely willing to wait till you get more of these. Tell your buddy there's money to be made here!!

[fly300kts]

Well I've waited this long, I'm definitely willing to wait till you get more of these. Tell your buddy there's money to be made here!!

Not really my buddy, I still have a Customer relationship with him and I respect his age as well (close to 60 yrs old)
As far as money, well, I am sure he has plenty since he his flying a 3.3M dollars aircraft but I will do my best to share this opportunity with the community

Phil

[Ornithology]

Not really my buddy, I still have a Customer relationship with him and I respect his age as well (close to 60 yrs old)
As far as money, well, I am sure he has plenty since he his flying a 3.3M dollars aircraft but I will do my best to share this opportunity with the community

Phil

Haha thanks for answering that so carefully. Either way, appreciate what you're doing here and excited to see if there is an opportunity for us to get one of those units!

[djpaw]

Phil,

Is there an opportunity to improve the User Interface ?

[Inked]

Phil,

Is there an opportunity to improve the User Interface ?

Improve meaning what?

[fly300kts]

Phil,

Is there an opportunity to improve the User Interface ?

Meaning?

Phil

[rnp614]

I doubt it would be easy seeing as how the Dynavin apparently has had the same interface for 2+ years.

[Inked]

I doubt it would be easy seeing as how the Dynavin apparently has had the same interface for 2+ years.

I've never used a Dynavin but the reviews aren't very good. A lot complain about lag...

Phils unit, not sure why you would want to change anything. It's perfect.

[rnp614]

Yeah Phils looks ideal. Definitely what I'd want. Just researching back-up options ;).

Anyone ever come across this one?

http://www.seicane.com/android-7-inch-car-dvd-player-for-audi-a4-touchscreen-gps-tv-ipod-3g-wifi-sia-9102#.UwVFJGJdVCY

[Inked]

Yeah Phils looks ideal. Definitely what I'd want. Just researching back-up options ;).

Anyone ever come across this one?

http://www.seicane.com/android-7-inch-car-dvd-player-for-audi-a4-touchscreen-gps-tv-ipod-3g-wifi-sia-9102#.UwVFJGJdVCY

That ones Android based, phils is windows based.

There is another that appears the same as the one we've got and window based, but again it's doesn't come with the a4 specific can Bus. If some one wants to be the guinea pig and try it out go ahead, just don't point any fingers if it's performance isn't the same...

[rudtf]

the one fly300kts posted the video of is sweet. Can you either hook up your iphone or connect via bluetooth to play pandora? does it keep all the stock bluetooth functions of the car?

Are you selling and installing them? i'm in fort lauderdale

-John

[B7Joe]

Bunch of panties in a bunch over this thing. lol

Subscribed for the lulz, and possibly a new head unit. ;)

[mccorkled]

the one fly300kts posted the video of is sweet. Can you either hook up your iphone or connect via bluetooth to play pandora? does it keep all the stock bluetooth functions of the car?

Are you selling and installing them? i'm in fort lauderdale

-John

Yes to the iPhone and pandora. I do it every day since you can't hook up sat to these.

[djpaw]

Meaning?

Phil

The colors/icons/fm interface...........one of the deal breakers for these units has been the UI......

[fly300kts]

The colors/icons/fm interface...........one of the deal breakers for these units has been the UI......

LED colors can be changed (3 different choices) but the red matches perfectly the OEM ones
Icons - I don't think so but I do not see any issue with them [confused]
Same as Icons

Phil

[naiku]

It's not the same, but it's coming. Be patient. Don't take a risk and buy a unit that appears the same, just wait and get the one that's been reviewed and tested.

Just curious, how can you be so sure its not the same unit? The interface is identical, the physical look of the unit is identical, the only unknown is if the one at the stopshop.co.za comes with the same wiring harness. I have no horse in this race, not looking for a new head unit, but would be willing to bet they are one and the same.

[fly300kts]

Just curious, how can you be so sure its not the same unit? The interface is identical, the physical look of the unit is identical, the only unknown is if the one at the stopshop.co.za comes with the same wiring harness. I have no horse in this race, not looking for a new head unit, but would be willing to bet they are one and the same.

Not sure where you have seen a race here
All look the same except one thing:

This:

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/IMG_1782_zpsd33e52cc.jpg (http://s31.photobucket.com/user/fly300kts/media/IMG_1782_zpsd33e52cc.jpg.html)

None of them are showing the specific CAN BUS
If their unit comes with one and specific to Audi, yes, they are the same unit

Phil

[naiku]

None of them are showing the specific CAN BUS
If their unit comes with one and specific to Audi, yes, they are the same unit


Sorry, I had meant to put in my post that the only thing that cannot yet be confirmed is what exactly the listing means by "CANBUS - Yes" at the link. It is a shame that they only post pictures of the front of the unit, and do not indicate what is in the box, or show anything else.

I am not sure how good the support is at some of those websites, otherwise someone may be able to get them to confirm with a picture if it includes the same CAN-BUS decoder, or something generic. Either way, this unit appears a nice upgrade, which as I think I put in my first post in this thread will be nice to get some decent reviews of as they typically come up fairly regularly as questionable both in terms of reliability and functionality.

[Inked]

Just curious, how can you be so sure its not the same unit? The interface is identical, the physical look of the unit is identical, the only unknown is if the one at the stopshop.co.za comes with the same wiring harness. I have no horse in this race, not looking for a new head unit, but would be willing to bet they are one and the same.

Buy one and let us know... It's possible they are the same except the Can-bus like Phil said.

My point was why take a risk because you don't want to wait until everything gets worked out. Imo I'd rather wait a little bit while everything is worked out and get the unit I know has been reviewed. That's all. Not a race at all. There's plenty of units on the market just as good or better than this one. It really boils down to personal preference. I like the units that don't need a double din kit but I was always afraid to buy dynavin because of the reviews being pretty bad.

[Inked]

which as I think I put in my first post in this thread will be nice to get some decent reviews of as they typically come up fairly regularly as questionable both in terms of reliability and functionality.

This is my point. No way to know for sure if it's the same unit or not. They look the same, but I can say the functionality of this unit is phenomenal. Don't see why it would get a bad review.

If someone bought one of the ones from the links that keep popping up, it could turn out to be great, OR could turn out to be horrible. Just a matter of if someone wants to gamble a little and find out for every one. I know my gambling days are over, I wasted $300+ on eBay led tails when they first popped up, burnt out in 3 weeks. now I wait for reviews.

[naiku]

Buy one and let us know...

No need, perfectly happy with my set up.


My point was why take a risk because you don't want to wait until everything gets worked out. Imo I'd rather wait a little bit while everything is worked out and get the unit I know has been reviewed.


This is my point. No way to know for sure if it's the same unit or not. They look the same, but I can say the functionality of this unit is phenomenal. Don't see why it would get a bad review.

If someone bought one of the ones from the links that keep popping up, it could turn out to be great, OR could turn out to be horrible. Just a matter of if someone wants to gamble a little and find out for every one. I know my gambling days are over, I wasted $300+ on eBay led tails when they first popped up, burnt out in 3 weeks. now I wait for reviews.

I understand where you are coming from, was just wondering as your post came across that you were certain they are not the same unit, when 90% of the signs point to them being exactly the same. The only piece that is not yet known is the CANBUS, which is why it is frustrating that the site does not list too many details (a common theme with a lot of sites selling these type of units). I could not agree more on not wanting to waste $400 on something as well, been down that road myself.

Having some good reviews on this particular unit from Senior/Veteran members who have installed them will be very helpful to those people asking about Dynavin units (I know this is not a Dynavin unit, but the appearance is going to make people think it is initially). I hope these units work out well, whether it is via Phil's contact or via the website I linked earlier in the thread, the RNS-E is overpriced for what it is, most aftermarket units look out of place, so a reasonably priced option that works well and does not stick out like a sore thumb in the dash, will be a welcome option for people trying to decide between RNS-E or aftermarket.

[b0i]

Well I'm in for a new head unit but I have Bose, so i'll hopefully more info will come out! I really loved my old JVC in my 337 GTI but I hate how aftermarket units look in our cars. I was looking to go RNSE but this unit seems to be exactly what I'm looking for while retaining OEM looking!

[Inked]

So here's my stab at a review...
Edit FYI: I had Symphony with cassette and multi disc changer and non bose speakers.


Just picked the car from Phil this morning and got to have a nice long 2.5hr drive back home to play with it...

I'll try to refrain from using words like amazing, awesome, phenomenal, etc. This unit is all those things but they don't explain anything.

Radio:
Reception good. Not sure how many radio presets it stores but it's at least 10+. Has a nice feature that automatically saves every radio station that comes in clear, so instead of scanning, it auto switches to the next available station when you hit the steering control.

Bluetooth:
Flawless. Sound quality 10/10. Steering controls flawless, no lag. Doesn't show song playing, just that it's connected to BT Audio.

Sd slot:
I bought a 64gb sd card off eBay for $18. Loaded 383 songs and 50+ music vids on it. Sound again 10/10 on both. Shows track playing along with the Album cover while playing. Again steering controls zero lag instant, just like oem for volume and switching songs. Love the fact you can drive to hd music vids while driving and the sound again is if you were listening to the radio/ official cd. Also can switch music vids with steering controls as well.

Navigation:
Works better than Google maps. My phone was having some issues on the trip down holding a gps lock for whatever reason and again when I tried on the way back. But the radio nav was rock solid the entire way. (I had both radio and phone navs going to compare routes and navigations). There's a ton of settings in the navigation on the time it tells you a turns coming up, to what volume you want the voice and the volume of the music. Literally too many setting to go over. I set mine up to have music the same volume even when viewing route map, then when it's time for the voice, it comes thru at half the music volume to tell me to turn.

Also has a connection for USB and iPod. I don't have an iPod but I plugged a USB stick up when I got home and it instantly reads it and plays.

Settings:
Over abundance of settings to play with and tweak to your liking. You cannot however change the UI as someone asked, but you can change the accent light. The red matched PERFECT to OEM.

Screen:
Touch response 10/10. I calibrated it first thing even tho Phil had it set up for me, just to make sure it's set up for me. You can adjust day/night back light and can also choose to turn a screen off while still listening to music/nav.

Look/feel:
Looks and feels like oem. Buttons press super easy yet solid. You Def don't have to push excessive on the button so no need to worry bout it wearing off like oem.

Sound:
Hands down, no exception, no excuse, no lie BLOWS AWAY the stock Symphony head unit. It sounds like I've upgraded every speaker in the car. It took me awhile to get the equalizer just right for me, but the sound quality is unreal. This can only be experienced in person. You won't be able to tell thru video.


Con:
Only con I've found is you lose the DIS cluster display. For me not a deal breaker as I knew this coming in. I NEVER looked there for a radio station or what not anyways that's why it doesn't bother me. I always looked at the radio itself. But that's a personal preference.

This unit has a ton of features I haven't even cover like backup camera, Internet Explorer, Dvr, hd TV, calculator, etc... I tried to cover basics that I use everyday.

Overall thoughts:
Extremely well priced for the value and quality you get in this head unit. Out performs the Symphony ten fold. Overall I'd rate it 9.5/10. When a software update comes out to support DIS cluster it's a 11/10.


Sorry for the long post but I wanted to be as detailed as possible.

Be patient as availability and pricing are still to come....
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[fly300kts]

So here's my stab at a review...

Just picked the car from Phil this morning and got to have a nice long 2.5hr drive back home to play with it...

I'll try to refrain from using words like amazing, awesome, phenomenal, etc. This unit is all those things but they don't explain anything.

Radio:
Reception good. Not sure how many radio presets it stores but it's at least 10+. Has a nice feature that automatically saves every radio station that comes in clear, so instead of scanning, it auto switches to the next available station when you hit the steering control.

Bluetooth:
Flawless. Sound quality 10/10. Steering controls flawless, no lag. Doesn't show song playing, just that it's connected to BT Audio.

Sd slot:
I bought a 64gb sd card off eBay for $18. Loaded 383 songs and 50+ music vids on it. Sound again 10/10 on both. Shows track playing along with the Album cover while playing. Again steering controls zero lag instant, just like oem for volume and switching songs. Love the fact you can drive to hd music vids while driving and the sound again is if you were listening to the radio/ official cd. Also can switch music vids with steering controls as well.

Navigation:
Works better than Google maps. I was having some issues on the trip down holding a gps lock for whatever reason and again when I tried on the way back. But the radio nav was rock solid the entire way. (I had both radio and phone navs going to compare routes and navigations). There's a ton of settings in the navigation on the time it tells you a turns coming up, to what volume you want the voice and the volume of the music. Literally too many setting to go over. I set mine up to have music the same volume even when viewing route map, then when time the voice comes thru at half the music volume to tell me to turn.

Also has a connection for USB and iPod. I don't have an iPod but I plugged a USB stick up when I got home and it instantly reads it and plays.

Settings:
Over abundance of settings to play with and tweak to your liking. You cannot however change the UI as someone asked, but you can change the accent light. The red matched PERFECT to OEM.

Screen:
Touch response 10/10. I calibrated it first thing even tho Phil had it set up for me, just to make sure it's set up for me. You can adjust day/night back light and can also choose to turn a screen off while still listening to music/nav.

Look/feel:
Looks and feels like oem. Buttons press super easy yet solid. You Def don't have to push excessive on the button so no need to worry bout it wearing off like oem.

Con:
Only con I've found is you lose the DIS cluster display. For me not a deal breaker as I NEVER looked there for a radio station or what not. I always looked the radio itself. But that's a personal preference.

This unit has a ton of features I haven't even cover like backup camera, Internet Explorer, Dvr, hd TV, calculator, etc... I tried to cover basics that I use everyday.

Overall thoughts:
Extremely well priced for the value and quality you get in this head unit. Out performs the Symphony ten fold. Overall I'd rate it 9.5/10. If a software update comes out to support DIS cluster it's a 11/10.


Sorry for the long post but I wanted to be as detailed as possible.

Be patient as availability and pricing are still to come....
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X2 [:D][:D][:D]

Phil

PS: you forgot the sound

[Inked]

X2 [:D][:D][:D]

Phil

PS: you forgot the sound

Oh shit. Adding it now.

[cheemn]

Um it doesn't show anything on the DIS?

[fly300kts]

Um it doesn't show anything on the DIS?

Not with the actual software version that should be updated soon
Same as Inked, I really don't care about it, I rather watch a video than my DIS [:D]

Phil

[cheemn]

Ok um I actually do care about it since I don't have to glance down to the right when driving. Let us know when that software update arrives. I hope it does because supposedly the Dynavin d99+ has such ability. That pretty much is the only thing I like about Dynavin. The rest of it is crap. Hence I am hoping this is possible with the update. [:D]

[Inked]

Ok um I actually do care about it since I don't have to glance down to the right when driving. Let us know when that software update arrives. I hope it does because supposedly the Dynavin d99+ has such ability. That pretty much is the only thing I like about Dynavin. The rest of it is crap. Hence I am hoping this is possible with the update. [:D]

Has anyone tested the Dynavin 99+? I'd like to know if it's as responsive in touch and steering controls. It's easy for an eBay seller to type a description but the reviews really don't match such description. I wish someone would pull the trigger and try it so we can all know lol...

But ya the dis shows nothing. But for me I never looked at it to see what station I was on I always looked at the radio.

If dis is important to you then it's not for you until the update... Otherwise it blows all others I've seen out of the water.

It'd really be ideal to get the gizmo that let's you program what info shows on your dis and I could use that space for different Temps or boost gauge... That'd be sweet oem++

[crazydevilz]

Im like cartman for the wii : come onnnnnnmmmmm

[V2Rider]

Yeah Phils looks ideal. Definitely what I'd want. Just researching back-up options ;).

Anyone ever come across this one?

http://www.seicane.com/android-7-inch-car-dvd-player-for-audi-a4-touchscreen-gps-tv-ipod-3g-wifi-sia-9102#.UwVFJGJdVCY

^This one is actually nice, if you run hotspot on your phone, you have Google Maps and NEVER need to update the GPS (unless your in a remote area) while using your phone as a modem via WiFi. I don't see anything about Bose systems though.......

[McBride7]

Does it completely disable the DIS? Or simply the radio/nav portions? I think I would do without the radio info, but it would drive me crazy being blank.

[fly300kts]

Does it completely disable the DIS? Or simply the radio/nav portions? I think I would do without the radio info, but it would drive me crazy being blank.

Just the upper part

Phil

[djpaw]

so whats the point of the canbus ?

[B7Joe]

so whats the point of the canbus ?

It's purely magical.

[naiku]

so whats the point of the canbus ?

Steering wheel controls, dimmer, power

[mccorkled]

^This one is actually nice, if you run hotspot on your phone, you have Google Maps and NEVER need to update the GPS (unless your in a remote area) while using your phone as a modem via WiFi. I don't see anything about Bose systems though.......

If anyone has ever used an Android phone you would know why you do not want this unit. Yes it looks nicer, but I guarantee it will freeze up constantly, random restarts, and super laggy after a weeks use.

[V2Rider]

If anyone has ever used an Android phone you would know why you do not want this unit. Yes it looks nicer, but I guarantee it will freeze up constantly, random restarts, and super laggy after a weeks use.

I use Android, galaxy s4, and rarely have issues. There are moments when I want to throw it out the window, but for the most part, Nav with google maps is unbeatable

[mccorkled]

Nav alone is hardly a reason to spend $500 on a radio.

[Dirtyylicous]

If anyone has ever used an Android phone you would know why you do not want this unit. Yes it looks nicer, but I guarantee it will freeze up constantly, random restarts, and super laggy after a weeks use.

Not a nexus or a rooted phone with a good ROM.

This unit has sef caught my eye, hopefully more info on pricing and where to buy will come out soon

[mccorkled]

Well considering rooted isn't OEM I wouldn't count it. In sure there is an easy way to put any OS you wanted on these radios. Finding the software is a different story.

[Inked]

If anyone has ever used an Android phone you would know why you do not want this unit. Yes it looks nicer, but I guarantee it will freeze up constantly, random restarts, and super laggy after a weeks use.

This. A headunit is a lot different than a phone.

[mccorkled]

An OS is an OS.

[V2Rider]

Android in a phone, Android in a Tablet, Android in a Head Unit. I would expect the same performance from all 3, it's the same system.

[mccorkled]

Android in a phone, Android in a Tablet, Android in a Head Unit. I would expect the same performance from all 3, it's the same system.

Exactly.

[kegobeer]

Android in a phone, Android in a Tablet, Android in a Head Unit. I would expect the same performance from all 3, it's the same system.

I guess you've never owned a shitty, cheaply made Android device. Piss poor driver coding for underpowered hardware makes all the difference. Just because it uses an Android operating system (there are a ton of versions out there, and not all hardware manufacturers use the latest) doesn't mean it will work as well as another Android device.

[kegobeer]

An OS is an OS.

But hardware is not hardware, and poorly coded drivers will kill an OS every time.

[mccorkled]

I never argued that. But so far no hardware/driver combos haven't done android ANY justice. Shits beat

[Ornithology]

Without getting off topic- PHIL WHEN ARE THESE UNITS AVAILABLE. I CAN ONLY WAIT SOO LONG...GARRHHggggg

[fly300kts]

Without getting off topic- PHIL WHEN ARE THESE UNITS AVAILABLE. I CAN ONLY WAIT SOO LONG...GARRHHggggg

I will not get any news for a month or so, Customer is in Europe

Phil

[Dirtyylicous]

I wish there were ways to flash these units to run pure android. 4.4 KitKat style os on a head unit would be insane

[Inked]

I wish there were ways to flash these units to run pure android. 4.4 KitKat style os on a head unit would be insane

There's a way just like with any device, you just have to know what your doing...

[V2Rider]

There's a way just like with any device, you just have to know what your doing...

^This........and I to would love to run Android in a head unit. I'm sure it would be similar to "rooting" a phone

[kegobeer]

^This........and I to would love to run Android in a head unit. I'm sure it would be similar to "rooting" a phone

Install a Nexus 7 tablet as your head unit. Problem solved. Or spend a lot of cash and get a Parrot Asteroid Smart. Those are the only two Android head unit options I would consider for my car.

[V2Rider]

Install a Nexus 7 tablet as your head unit. Problem solved. Or spend a lot of cash and get a Parrot Asteroid Smart. Those are the only two Android head unit options I would consider for my car.

I have 2 Samsung Galaxy Note tablets, but as far as configuring it into my display.........not a clue

[kegobeer]

I have 2 Samsung Galaxy Note tablets, but as far as configuring it into my display.........not a clue

Go the the car audio board - there are two threads on installing a Nexus tablet.

[stevengrande]

Does it completely disable the DIS? Or simply the radio/nav portions? I think I would do without the radio info, but it would drive me crazy being blank.

With the amount of "bulb out" and "low washer fluid" errors I've been getting lately, I never have to worry about that space being blank.


-Steve G - 2005.5 A4 2.0T
***If you're reading this it was probably sent via TapTalk while driving my B7***

[fly300kts]

Just got a call from my Customer to see how his aircraft was doing so I asked a bunch of questions:

Unit is compatible with Bose systems
DIS feedback: software upgrade will not address this issue. Audi has a copyrighted coding preventing the feedback to DIS. They are trying to go around this coding but no detail if or when they will succeed
CAN BUS: this unit comes with a specific interface. He warned me about similar units on the market coming with a generic interface. They will trigger lag, incompatibilities with steering wheel buttons, and limited customization

That's all for now

Phil

[Inked]

Just got a call from my Customer to see how his aircraft was doing so I asked a bunch of questions:

Unit is compatible with Bose systems
DIS feedback: software upgrade will not address this issue. Audi has a copyrighted coding preventing the feedback to DIS. They are trying to go around this coding but no detail if or when they will succeed
CAN BUS: this unit comes with a specific interface. He warned me about similar units on the market coming with a generic interface. They will trigger lag, incompatibilities with steering wheel buttons, and limited customization

That's all for now

Phil

Very nice! Who cares about dis, it makes up for not supporting dis in every other aspect!

I can't stop downloading music videos lol

[AKO]

Very nice! Who cares about dis, it makes up for not supporting dis in every other aspect!

I can't stop downloading music videos lol

hahaha just dont download any *cough* Rated R videos *cough*

[PNW Avant]

Just got a call from my Customer to see how his aircraft was doing so I asked a bunch of questions:

Unit is compatible with Bose systems
DIS feedback: software upgrade will not address this issue. Audi has a copyrighted coding preventing the feedback to DIS. They are trying to go around this coding but no detail if or when they will succeed
CAN BUS: this unit comes with a specific interface. He warned me about similar units on the market coming with a generic interface. They will trigger lag, incompatibilities with steering wheel buttons, and limited customization

That's all for now

Phil

I am surprised, companies like ADR had the DIS coding figured out nearly 10 years ago?

[waiapasi2006]

Thanks for the update Phil.
Let us know when they will be available.

Suraj.

[Ornithology]

Thanks for the update Phil.
Let us know when they will be available.

Suraj.

Ditto

[B7A4WD]

Ditto

+1

[ericpaulyoung]

So I take it your customer owns an electronics factory in China, or has a large contract with a chinese electronics factory in China.

epy

[mec]

lol this thread might just get interesting~

[mccorkled]

Just got a call from my Customer to see how his aircraft was doing so I asked a bunch of questions:

Unit is compatible with Bose systems
DIS feedback: software upgrade will not address this issue. Audi has a copyrighted coding preventing the feedback to DIS. They are trying to go around this coding but no detail if or when they will succeed
CAN BUS: this unit comes with a specific interface. He warned me about similar units on the market coming with a generic interface. They will trigger lag, incompatibilities with steering wheel buttons, and limited customization

That's all for now

Phil

False. I have used several of these (at least 4) with the non-Audi canbus and it was not laggy. I am not sure what you/ he means by limited customization since that has nothing to do with the canbus.


So I take it your customer owns an electronics factory in China, or has a large contract with a chinese electronics factory in China.

epy

If they are coming from China they are the same units that can be found on eBay and Amazon and tons of other places.

[Inked]

I'll look to see if I can figure out where it's made when I get home. Not sure.

And on it being the same as the others, I don't think so, as most units say they aren't compatible with Bose, also some claim working dis and others say it doesn't.

Only way to really know if they are the same is buy one and try it out. Anything else is speculation.

I've never used those others, so I can't comment on those. What I can comment on is the one I have and it's flawless. Extremely responsive and quick touchscreen and steering controls

[cheemn]

False. I have used several of these (at least 4) with the non-Audi canbus and it was not laggy. I am not sure what you/ he means by limited customization since that has nothing to do with the canbus.



If they are coming from China they are the same units that can be found on eBay and Amazon and tons of other places.


Have any of these that you used showed any info on the DIS?

[mccorkled]

They are all Bose compatible. I don't know why they say they aren't. As far as the DIS working... No.

[ericpaulyoung]

OK, I will be a guinea pig and pull my OEM RNS-E nav unit out tonight and put it up on Ebay. When I sell it I will buy one of the generic China ones that say they have CANBUS and A10/11 chipset running Windows.

So if anybody is interested, I will have an RNS-E with bluetooth module, GPS antenna, and Kufatec harness for sale in a little bit.

epy

[Inked]

I don't think the one I have is made in China, tho I can't find it in the manual.

The reason I don't think it is made in China, is because it has a specific feature in the radio portion that says is only available in Europe.... That leads me to believe it's manufactured over in Europe, could be wrong tho.

Everything is just very generic and non-branded with this unit so it's hard to compare it to others that have a logo slapped on the side. But even tho its 'generic' the quality is top notch

[Inked]

OK, I will be a guinea pig and pull my OEM RNS-E nav unit out tonight and put it up on Ebay. When I sell it I will buy one of the generic China ones that say they have CANBUS and A10/11 chipset running Windows.

So if anybody is interested, I will have an RNS-E with bluetooth module, GPS antenna, and Kufatec harness for sale in a little bit.

epy

Lol

[ericpaulyoung]

Lol

might as well :/ As you said, we won't know unless someone tries. Being not one to shy from trying something new, figured I might as well be the one.

Thinking of this one.
http://www.dhgate.com/product/auto-radio-car-dvd-player-for-audi-a4-2002/177275305.html#s1-4-1|986850208

epy

[Inked]

I don't think I would do that one... The interface looks completely different.

[Ornithology]

I don't think I would do that one... The interface looks completely different.

Do you guys have pictures of the front/back of the units?

[Inked]

I don't sorry. Phil might. He already had mine installed ready to roll when I got there. I would have had a pic if my fans weren't shot and we were actually able to install the radio the day we were supposed too

[waiapasi2006]

might as well :/ As you said, we won't know unless someone tries. Being not one to shy from trying something new, figured I might as well be the one.

Thinking of this one.
http://www.dhgate.com/product/auto-radio-car-dvd-player-for-audi-a4-2002/177275305.html#s1-4-1|986850208

epy

It won't hurt to try, at least you will know the answer to that.
You can post back and let us know.

[fly300kts]

might as well :/ As you said, we won't know unless someone tries. Being not one to shy from trying something new, figured I might as well be the one.

Thinking of this one.
http://www.dhgate.com/product/auto-radio-car-dvd-player-for-audi-a4-2002/177275305.html#s1-4-1|986850208

epy

Sure go for it and let us know

Phil

[cheemn]

might as well :/ As you said, we won't know unless someone tries. Being not one to shy from trying something new, figured I might as well be the one.

Thinking of this one.
http://www.dhgate.com/product/auto-radio-car-dvd-player-for-audi-a4-2002/177275305.html#s1-4-1|986850208


epy

If you look at the Canbus Decode Box function and look at F. What do you think that means? Think there is a way to contact them and ask about stuff like that before ya purchase it?

[fly300kts]

So I take it your customer owns an electronics factory in China, or has a large contract with a chinese electronics factory in China.

epy

You can assume what ever you want EPY:
In my business, dealing on a daily basis with high end Customers and some Celebrities, there is a lot of respect and confidentiality and there is some questions you simply don't ask. I am sure you are smart enough to understand that.
He was doing me more a favor than anything else and I am sure, and does not really give a crap about me or this community.

After all, I have my unit, she was great and if I am to be selfish, that's all that count. It seems that in the recent posts, the less you say the better it is.
Audizine is far from what it used to be and I am really thinking sometimes that I should GTFO

Phil

[ericpaulyoung]

You can assume what ever you want EPY:
In my business, dealing on a daily basis with high end Customers and some Celebrities, there is a lot of respect and confidentiality and there is some questions you simply don't ask. I am sure you are smart enough to understand that.
He was doing me more a favor than anything else and I am sure, and does not really give a crap about me or this community.

Phil

You misunderstand, I meant nothing bad at all.
epy

[mccorkled]

I just bought one of these

http://www.ebay.com/itm/A8-Chipset-DVD-GPS-Headunit-Navigation-Radio-3G-WIFI-Ipod-F-02-08-audi-a4-s4-as4-/271241377439

This will be my 4th or 5th unit. If you want pictures of what the back looks like on ALL A4 B7 A8 chipset navs click the link. Units running the older chipset have different back connections.

As far as you not being able to find where it was made... China. Dead give away. If it was in the USA or Europe it would be stamped alllll over it.


might as well :/ As you said, we won't know unless someone tries. Being not one to shy from trying something new, figured I might as well be the one.

Thinking of this one.
http://www.dhgate.com/product/auto-radio-car-dvd-player-for-audi-a4-2002/177275305.html#s1-4-1|986850208

epy

I am 99% certain that is the same company making that one. The interface is not that different, just the icons. The plugs on the back are all the same which they wouldn't be if it was another company. I know because I have see other company plugs.

[peb]

What I find so odd about this is that Phil's customer, or someone that his customer bought one from, is selling these. If so, why is finding where to buy them so secret? Lol

[fly300kts]

What I find so odd about this is that Phil's customer, or someone that his customer bought one from, is selling these. If so, why is finding where to buy them so secret? Lol

Because he might simply protect his business where he probably got some heavy $$ invested in
Again, just an assumption

Phil

[Inked]

You can assume what ever you want EPY:
In my business, dealing on a daily basis with high end Customers and some Celebrities, there is a lot of respect and confidentiality and there is some questions you simply don't ask. I am sure you are smart enough to understand that.
He was doing me more a favor than anything else and I am sure, and does not really give a crap about me or this community.

After all, I have my unit, she was great and if I am to be selfish, that's all that count. It seems that in the recent posts, the less you say the better it is.
Audizine is far from what it used to be and I am really thinking sometimes that I should GTFO

Phil

+1...

Lately Audizine is just about picking apart and devouring anything posted...

[mccorkled]

Because he might simply protect his business where he probably got some heavy $$ invested in
Again, just an assumption

Phil

How much did you pay for your unit and the one you hooked the dude up with on here? If he is protecting it so well, MY assumption is that he is selling Chinese units that can be bought anywhere for $450 with free shipping for $600+

[ericpaulyoung]

+1...

Lately Audizine is just about picking apart and devouring anything posted...

Again, Phil misinterpreted what I said. I wasn't picking apart anything, and just because something is from China doesn't make it bad either. That stereotype is very outdated.
epy

[Inked]

How much did you pay for your unit and the one you hooked the dude up with on here? If he is protecting it so well, MY assumption is that he is selling Chinese units that can be bought anywhere for $450 with free shipping for $600+

Lol. OK... You buy what you want. They might be the same they might not. I know mine works flawless.

[mccorkled]

The few other ones I have had have also worked flawless. I don't expect this to work any differently. I don't understand why that is so funny?

[Inked]

The few other ones I have had have also worked flawless. I don't expect this to work any differently. I don't understand why that is so funny?

Cool

[4point2]

all other comments aside, do we have a ball-park feel for where these units might end up in terms of cost, as in are we looking at $600 ish or $800 range or more? I totally understand the cautious nature of Phil's approach so I understand if even a ball-park number isn't plausible right now.

Good work and thanks for sharing / reviewing

[B7Joe]

I just bought one of these

http://www.ebay.com/itm/A8-Chipset-DVD-GPS-Headunit-Navigation-Radio-3G-WIFI-Ipod-F-02-08-audi-a4-s4-as4-/271241377439


This is actually one of the nicer interfaces I've seen. Did you notice whether this particular unit has canbus support; i.e. enables steering wheel controls? Not a deal breaker for me, by the way. EDIT: Just noticed it does have steering wheel control support.

I was considering one of the units Inked installed but all this talk about secretive millionaires and celebrities has become a little silly.

...stay thirsty my friends. lol

Thanks

[teeoney]

Just ordered this unit.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2014-New-Android-4-2-2-A9-1-6G-Dual-Core-Capacitive-Screen-Car-DVD-player/1662316562.html

Was in the car audio industry for 10+ years, have always had nothing but the best, Alpine, Precision Power, MB Quart, etc, so was very skeptical of ordering this unit.

But now as a programmer and having a very good working knowledge of Android, I wanted the latest version I could get. That and being able to use the Business AMX that has 100% buyer protection, I decided to pull the trigger.

I was able to get the unit for $490 shipped, by just asking for a discount. Will do a full review when I get it next week

[waiapasi2006]

lol this thread might just get interesting~

It has started! Let the head units begin.

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