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teckk
01-26-2014, 05:48 PM
So we all know whats out there but ive been looking into the top 3 competitors so far which are the JHM , 034 & RAI testpipes.

And so i was trying to get an overall general idea as to if the difference in size is really gonna affect performance with them being so minimal.

034 is a flat 3" start to finish
JHM starts at 3.5 and goes down to a 3" and
RAI starts at 4" and tapers down to a 3"

So is there really that much of a difference in what you choose being that the K03 so small ?

mec
01-26-2014, 05:51 PM
Nah. Go with what is more readily available. Or don't get a test pipe, wait to get a bigger turbo and then get a test pipe for that!

teckk
01-26-2014, 05:57 PM
Well i mean im not planning on going anything bigger than a Ko4 or K0R so i wanted a testpipe that would be good for both the ko3 and whatever i choose in the future but my friend says 4" is overkill for a ko3

vce1232000
01-26-2014, 06:45 PM
Id would have gone with one of these if I didn't[race] have my set up already.http://www.audizine.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=104554&title=rai-3-26quot-3b-downpipe-with-test-pipe-tip-quattro&cat=22

rongeur
01-26-2014, 07:47 PM
For a sec i thought this could have been an interesting thread, then i realized it was just another "what should i get thread"

mec
01-26-2014, 08:09 PM
I went 5" so I could get free flowing performance, I probably picked up around 40hp

teckk
01-26-2014, 09:57 PM
For a sec i thought this could have been an interesting thread, then i realized it was just another "what should i get thread"

Honestly its more of a discussion thread , im pretty set on what i want i just wanted to see what others opinion on the subjecy may be since there are a couple of different testpipes to choose from this year so dont give up on it just yet haha

teckk
01-26-2014, 10:05 PM
I went 5" so I could get free flowing performance, I probably picked up around 40hp

So much for jealous ex girlfriends stuffing a potatoe in your exhaust haha holy shit ! Got any sound clips or video ?

derrek
01-26-2014, 10:16 PM
If you get a k04 you're going to need a new test pipe anyway.....

mscottdemarco
01-26-2014, 10:18 PM
JHM or 034.. Their customer service is way better

jsandor91
01-26-2014, 11:19 PM
If you get a k04 you're going to need a new test pipe anyway.....

unless he goes franken or k0r which bolt up to stock downpipe location i believe

mec
01-26-2014, 11:34 PM
I want to see a fully tuned frankenturbo go at it with an s3 k04. or even just a k0r. I was blown out of the water by how good k04's are nowadays, I can't imagine the franken or the k0r is that much better.

These hybrid style turbo's made a lot more sense for people who wanted more power back i the b5/b6 era, because a k04 was really like adding 40 hp, so a hybrid would allow you to get way more out of the engine without having the rebuild, but honestly, the s3 k04 is right on the limit of rod snapping torque and power, I can't imagine that these hybrid turbos will even have 1/4 of the performance gap they used to have on teh k04.

Operator
01-27-2014, 03:09 AM
Personal preference for me is the RAI TP. The funnel design, just seems to make more sense. And it will fit a K03, K04, K0R, Franken.......

vvenom800tt
01-27-2014, 04:20 AM
I have an APR from the previous owner and i wish he had gotten something 3"

kristokes
01-27-2014, 04:24 AM
I had a few different setups with high flow catalysts and test pipes back when I was stock turbo and I've always favored RAI's 4-3" test pipe.

LINDW4LL
01-27-2014, 05:45 AM
I want to see a fully tuned frankenturbo go at it with an s3 k04. or even just a k0r. I was blown out of the water by how good k04's are nowadays, I can't imagine the franken or the k0r is that much better.

True, the whole point of the F23L is that it will make more power than most K04s and only costs $1499. Versus APR's $4000 S3 kit.

Hugh@EuropaParts
01-27-2014, 06:13 AM
Get a high flow cat Larry... there's a reason why there's a plethora of test pipes in the classifieds and not a single HFC.

vvenom800tt
01-27-2014, 06:16 AM
My state doesnt have emissions testing. So ill save that $150 option and spend it on something else when the time comes.

jsandor91
01-27-2014, 09:59 AM
Get a high flow cat Larry... there's a reason why there's a plethora of test pipes in the classifieds and not a single HFC.

I have emissions in nj with a test pipe.... yolo

I would vote for rai dp but since I and many others had rubbing issues its hard to recommend it.

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LINDW4LL
01-27-2014, 10:01 AM
... there's a reason why there's a plethora of test pipes in the classifieds and not a single HFC.
Yeah, it's called emissions. Unless you have sniffer or visual inspection, there's no reason to buy a HFC.

vce1232000
01-27-2014, 10:25 AM
I went 5" so I could get free flowing performance, I probably picked up around 40hp
I will be going 6 inch test and downpipe soon[drool]. There will be no back psi at all[up]. In fact I going to my neighborhood school bus parking lot and taking their exhaust off and[wrench] retrofitting on my Avant for that ultimately scavenging effect[facepalm]. So I can have the[drive] fastest and loudest A4 avant in my neighborhood. And that is no[poop]my friend[hail]

mec
01-27-2014, 10:27 AM
I will be going 6 inch test and downpipe soon[drool]. There will be no back psi at all[up]. In fact I going to my neighborhood school bus parking lot and taking their exhaust off and[wrench] retrofitting on my Avant for that ultimately scavenging effect[facepalm]. So I can have the[drive] fastest and loudest A4 avant in my neighborhood. And that is no[poop]my friend[hail]

What happened to you? What was the traumatic event in your life that made you so adamant about using emoticons where they don't belong?

vce1232000
01-27-2014, 10:31 AM
What happened to you? What was the traumatic event in your life that made you so adamant about using emoticons where they don't belong?

Please excuse me[hail]. I was dropped on my head to many times when I was a baby[=(][=(]

mec
01-27-2014, 10:33 AM
Aww well now I feel like a dick...

vce1232000
01-27-2014, 10:36 AM
Aww well now I feel like a dick...
Guess better then eating one[up]..........lol

Charles.waite
01-27-2014, 11:04 AM
No emissions testing? As in no sniffer? Or nothing at all? In Washington we have a OBD2 emissions testing, meaning if you're throwing a code for no Catalyst (Catalyst efficiency, P0420, etc) then you don't pass. Has nothing to do with the ACTUAL emissions out the tailpipe, it has to do with the ECU DETECTING too many emissions out the tailpipe. Fool the rear O2 sensor and you're fine...

I just think its nuts that states still don't have any form of emissions testing these days. I get it for cars older than 30 years but for any car built in the era of catalytic converters they should be doing some amount of testing I feel...

Jake@JHM
01-27-2014, 11:17 AM
You can't go wrong with our test pipe. They are in stock and ready to ship and guaranteed OEM like fitment. Plus our J-bung will prevent you from having a CEL for not having a cat. (if you tuning doesn't remove it)

Let me know if you have any questions!

Jake

teckk
01-27-2014, 11:39 AM
Get a high flow cat Larry... there's a reason why there's a plethora of test pipes in the classifieds and not a single HFC.

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u493/lawrencek93/5AE26CA8-AD27-4F5C-8122-62DF21ECD74E.png (http://s1070.photobucket.com/user/lawrencek93/media/5AE26CA8-AD27-4F5C-8122-62DF21ECD74E.png.html)

Guess we'll have to wait an see what i pull out my little hat of tricks this time haha

teckk
01-27-2014, 11:40 AM
unless he goes franken or k0r which bolt up to stock downpipe location i believe

Thats what i read also on top of them being way cheaper [up]

teckk
01-27-2014, 11:42 AM
True, the whole point of the F23L is that it will make more power than most K04s and only costs $1499. Versus APR's $4000 S3 kit.

Definitely would love to see this happen

teckk
01-27-2014, 11:44 AM
I had a few different setups with high flow catalysts and test pipes back when I was stock turbo and I've always favored RAI's 4-3" test pipe.

Same here i feel like my K03 and whatever i get next would have a step brothers moment "So much room for activities" lol

teckk
01-27-2014, 12:25 PM
You can't go wrong with our test pipe. They are in stock and ready to ship and guaranteed OEM like fitment. Plus our J-bung will prevent you from having a CEL for not having a cat. (if you tuning doesn't remove it)

Let me know if you have any questions!

Jake

Your test pipe looks awesome bro but I was kinda wondering how you judged what the prices of your new tp & hfc would be as compared to what was already on the market.

vce1232000
01-27-2014, 12:35 PM
Your test pipe looks awesome bro but I was kinda wondering how you judged what the prices of your new tp & hfc would be as compared to what was already on the market.
If you wanna play..........Yaa gotta pay....... Price of modding[=(][=(][race]

Jake@JHM
01-27-2014, 12:35 PM
Cost of labor, materials, they are always in stock, and they are guaranteed to fit. Not to mention ours comes with a J-bung and hardware kit with a custom gasket. (stuff that is normally not included with the price of a test pipe). Additionally, our test pipe is not choked at the flange like others on the market are.

Jake

LINDW4LL
01-27-2014, 12:50 PM
The fact is if you have a K03 or even a K04, any 2.5" downpipe will provide beyond sufficient flow. 034 uses a 3.5" downpipe for their 2.7L Single Turbo kit and people have made over 700whp. Most people here will never even be making 1/3 of that.


So that being said, get whatever you can find for cheap. No reason to spend ridiculous amounts on a 4" downpipe.

teckk
01-27-2014, 12:59 PM
The fact is if you have a K03 or even a K04, any 2.5" downpipe will provide beyond sufficient flow. 034 uses a 3.5" downpipe for their 2.7L Single Turbo kit and people have made over 700whp.


So that being said, get whatever you can find for cheap. No reason to spend ridiculous amounts on a 4" downpipe.

Haha the difference between the the top 2 are like $10 and even if you went w/ 034 its like $60 cheaper so you could pretty much put them all in the same price range. So it really comes down to the technical things like customer service & build quality.

teckk
01-27-2014, 01:03 PM
Cost of labor, materials, they are always in stock, and they are guaranteed to fit. Not to mention ours comes with a J-bung and hardware kit with a custom gasket. (stuff that is normally not included with the price of a test pipe). Additionally, our test pipe is not choked at the flange like others on the market are.

Jake

I could see those all being potential factors i just found it kinda funny how close you guys were to your competitors prices which makes your new customers really have to decide which one they would want more.

BTW my two next question would be would your gaskets fit on other test pipes due to the way that they're made ? And is there a possible chance of a group buy ?

Charles.waite
01-27-2014, 01:11 PM
So it really comes down to the technical things like customer service & build quality.

The one largest reason NOT to go with RAI.

Hugh@EuropaParts
01-27-2014, 01:11 PM
Test pipes are all a simple piece of pipe that has been bent in a certain angle.... there's not much science behind them at all. Brand A's test pipe will not yield you different gains than Brand B's test pipe.

A straw is a straw... it's hollow and air (exhaust gases) travel through it.

wildcat333
01-27-2014, 01:23 PM
The one largest reason NOT to go with RAI.

I think Axis is still looking for an RAI pipe

Jake@JHM
01-27-2014, 01:24 PM
I could see those all being potential factors i just found it kinda funny how close you guys were to your competitors prices which makes your new customers really have to decide which one they would want more.

BTW my two next question would be would your gaskets fit on other test pipes due to the way that they're made ? And is there a possible chance of a group buy ?

There will most likely not be a group buy, but any Test Pipe that utilizes the OEM flange pattern will be able to use our gasket kit!

Jake

Hugh@EuropaParts
01-27-2014, 01:30 PM
034Motorsport Test Pipe (A4 B7, 2.0T) (http://www.europaparts.com/034motorsport-test-pipe-a4-b7-2-0t.html)

$158.00 and you can pick it up the same day... I'll even buy you a Welchs Grape to sweeten the deal...

Absolutely 0 fitment issues on the hundreds if not thousands that we have sold.

http://media.europaparts.com/catalog/product/cache/1/image/cd6085ca2ccd08373d4b6de971808fb4/0/3/034motorsport-test-pipe-b7-2-0t.jpg

034Motorsport Test Pipes are designed to replace the restrictive OE catalytic converter, and allow for quicker turbo spool while increasing horsepower and torque throughout the powerband. They feature high flowing 3" stainless steel construction that fits in place of the stock catalytic converter with no modifications necessary. The test pipe fits quattro and FWD B7 Audi A4 2.0T models equipped with manual, Tiptronic, or CVT transmissions. A direct bolt-in for OEM cat-back exhausts or aftermarket cat-back exhaust systems designed to fit with the OEM catalytic converter.

Typical horsepower gains are 10hp+ on stock turbo tunes and 15hp+ on K04 tunes.


Full 304 stainless steel tubing construction.
TIG welded for maximum durability and flow.
CNC machined flanges to prevent warping and expansion.
Factory correct front and rear oxygen sensor bungs and exhaust hanger placement.
Full 3" tubing is used throughout.
Direct bolt-in.
Dyno proven horsepower and torque gains!

ECS Tuning-Audi
01-27-2014, 01:49 PM
We currently have 3 options available from different vendors! Need an installation kit or spare hardware? We have that too! Check it out below.

Click HERE to order or for more information (www.ecstuning.com/Audi-B7_A4-Quattro-2.0T/Exhaust/Performance/Test_Pipe/?salesrep=JMarusic&utm_source=audizine&utm_medium=forum&utm_content=JMarusic&utm_campaign=postreply)
http://www.ecstuning.com/groupheaders/img/performance_exhaust.jpg (www.ecstuning.com/Audi-B7_A4-Quattro-2.0T/Exhaust/Performance/Test_Pipe/?salesrep=JMarusic&utm_source=audizine&utm_medium=forum&utm_content=JMarusic&utm_campaign=postreply)

Replacement gaskets available HERE (www.ecstuning.com/Audi-B7_A4-Quattro-2.0T/Search/SiteSearch/ES2580573_ES523188/?salesrep=JMarusic&utm_source=audizine&utm_medium=forum&utm_content=JMarusic&utm_campaign=postreply)!

Jason

Jake@JHM
01-27-2014, 01:52 PM
Well, I might as well!


Hey everyone!

Finally, a no-compromise, performance-first 3" Test Pipe and High Flow Cat for the B7-A4 2.0T!!! If you are looking to get the most performance out of your stock turbo B7-A4 2.0T, this is the test pipe/HFC that you need!

http://www.jhmotorsports.com/products/pictures/B7A4/JHM-B7-A4-20T-Catless-Test-Pipe.jpg

http://www.jhmotorsports.com/products/pictures/B7A4/JHM-B7-A4-20T-Cat-pipe.jpg

http://www.jhmotorsports.com/products/pictures/B7A4/JHM-B7-A4-20T-Catless-Test-Pipe-turbo-flange-detail.jpg

This is the same Test Pipe that we ran in our JHM 2.0T when we set the fastest stock turbo quarter mile record: 13.38 seconds at 100.3 mph! (see video below)


http://youtu.be/mbVOHMNRSnA

INFORMATION ON THE B7-A4 2.0T EXHAUST SYSTEM:

After the turbo on the B7-A4 2.0T there are 3 different components in the exhaust system:

- TEST PIPE or CAT PIPE (OEM Cat Pipe): This pipe is the shortest section of the exhaust system and can be seen from the top of the car. It attaches to the turbo outlet and in stock form, contains the OEM Catalytic Converter. There are two oxygen sensors located on this pipe - one right after the turbo outlet and one after cat. After the cat, this pipe bends down to connect to the next part of the exhaust system, the CAT-BACK which includes the DOWNPIPE and the REAR EXHAUST.
CAT-BACK:

- DOWNPIPE: This section of the exhaust attaches to the cat pipe and runs down from that connection over the CV shaft then under the passenger side of the transmission cross-member. In the stock formation, it connects to the REAR EXHAUST via a slip fit clamp where the end of the DOWNPIPE slips over the REAR EXHAUST. (Stay tuned for our JHM Downpipe-Y Adapter to mate to a B6-B7 S4 Catback!)

- REAR EXHAUST: This final piece of the exhaust system is connected to the back of the DOWNPIPE and in the stock configuration splits into two pipes after exiting a resonator. After the resonator, the pipes continue to go apart and then lead into a muffler on each side. At the exit of the muffler, the REAR EXHAUST ends with the tips that you can see at the back of your car. Sometimes this section of the exhaust is mistakenly called the "cat-back". On the B7-A4 2.0T, a cat-back exhaust would replace BOTH the DOWNPIPE and the REAR EXHAUST sections. Most quality exhaust manufacturers sell true "cat-back" exhausts that will bolt up to your OEM cat-pipe or your test pipe. However, we have found that a number of manufacturers making exhaust products for the B7-A4 2.0T will market a rear exhaust system as a cat-back. Use this information to make sure you know what exhaust components you are replacing.

THE JHM DIFFERENCE:

The JHM B7-A4 2.0T 3" Test Pipe/HFC starts with nearly a 3 and a half inch opening at the turbo outlet! The outlet on the stock K03 turbo is 3.15 inches, so if we were to go with only a 3" inch opening on the pipe, we'd already be choking off the turbo! We opened up our pipe to the OEM Turbo to Cat Pipe gasket size which is actually slightly bigger than the OEM catalytic converter inlet.

http://www.jhmotorsports.com/products/pictures/B7A4/JHM-B7-A4-20T-Catless-Test-Pipe-turbo-flange-detail-1.jpg

We also give our test pipe the largest downpipe connection possible while still maintaining strength in the connecting flange. This pipe is NOT like other test pipes out there which can neck down to the stock downpipe flange size. We make our outlet piping size as close to 3" as possible while still allowing it to hook up to whatever downpipe setup you currently have on your car. This leaves you room to grow into more powerful exhaust setups or just hook to your current stock downpipe. We maintain the stock bolt pattern but manufacture a custom flange that is opened up to receive our nearly 3" piping. Though this method **slightly** limits the size of pipe we can run at the outlet, we decided to put our piping inside the flange because it's a stronger way to build the flange connection while still allowing the test pipe/HFC to bolt up to both stock and other downpipes on the market.

http://www.jhmotorsports.com/products/pictures/B7A4/JHM-B7-A4-20T-Test-Pipe-TP-to-DP-flange.jpg

The catalytic converter used in the JHM Cat Pipe is a high-quality, 300-cell, high-flow race cat. We locate it as far away from the turbo outlet as possible. While this made it a more difficult piece to fabricate and produce, we felt that it was the only way to do it since putting a restriction right against the back of the turbo would restrict airflow

Finally, our Test Pipe/HFC features a J-bung for the secondary oxygen sensor. We've been working with several different configurations on this piece to get just the right setup for the B7-A4 2.0T. With our J-bung, not only will you be Check Engine Light free (for catalyst efficiency codes), but because of the way we've located it on the pipe, you'll also have easy access to the secondary oxygen should you ever need to replace it!

http://www.jhmotorsports.com/products/pictures/B7A4/JHM-B7-A4-20T-Test-or-cat-Pipe-j-bung-detail.jpg

For those customers interested upgrading to our JHM 3" Test Pipe/HFC who already have a larger downpipe (or are looking to buy our JHM Y-Adapter) we offer a no compromise gasket and hardware kit. When replacing your OEM cat-pipe with our JHM Test Pipe, you'll most likely need to replace the gasket at the cat-pipe to downpipe connection. Most companies just provide a stock gasket for this connection which has an inner diameter of 2.3". Not only is the JHM gasket that we include in our hardware kit made out of aluminum but it also features an inner diameter of 2.8" - the largest possible diameter while still maintaining the stock bolt pattern. To purchase this hardware kit, please go back one section and add the item to your cart. You can also search for "JHM 2.0T Hardware Kit" in the search box on the top, right-hand corner on any page on our website.

http://www.jhmotorsports.com/products/pictures/B7A4/JHM-B7-A4-20T-Test-cat-pipe-hardware-kit-detail.jpg

For more information on the JHM B7 A4 3" Test Pipe, Click Here! (http://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/exhaust-test-pipe-jhm-catless-test-pipe-for-b7-a4-20t-p-1852.html) Or if you would like more on our JHM B7 A4 3" HFC, Click Here! (http://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/exhaust-cat-pipe-jhm-high-flow-cat-hfc-for-b7-a4-20t-p-1893.html) Both options are in stock and ready to ship!

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask!

Jake

Hugh@EuropaParts
01-27-2014, 01:52 PM
http://www.americangrocery.co.uk/ekmps/shops/vmadhu/images/welch-s-grape-soda-355ml-95-p.jpg

/thread

vce1232000
01-27-2014, 02:32 PM
Not to toot APR brands. But maybe that's why there testpipe [wrench]is only available in 2.5 inch.[confused]. Its already maxed out flow for 2.0T even @ BT stage. Pretty sure there spent big bux on R&D[hail].

mec
01-27-2014, 02:39 PM
Omg vendor fight!

Jake@JHM
01-27-2014, 02:41 PM
Omg vendor fight!

Nah, I don't fight. I just go fast [:D]

mec
01-27-2014, 05:12 PM
Nah, I don't fight. I just go fast [:D]

Vendor Race?

Jake@JHM
01-27-2014, 05:12 PM
I am down

Operator
01-27-2014, 05:25 PM
Not to toot APR brands. But maybe that's why there testpipe [wrench]is only available in 2.5 inch.[confused]. Its already maxed out flow for 2.0T even @ BT stage. Pretty sure there spent big bux on R&D[hail].

The exit of even the K03 is larger than 2.5".... R&D sure, but I venture there is also a reason most others went 3" or more....

Operator
01-27-2014, 05:27 PM
The one largest reason NOT to go with RAI.


I've had more than positive experiences with both.....

mec
01-27-2014, 05:32 PM
3" sounds noisier, also has more drone, its like why not, lets make a shitbox outta this car :)

vce1232000
01-27-2014, 05:32 PM
The exit of even the K03 is larger than 2.5".... R&D sure, but I venture there is also a reason most others went 3" or more....

Because some people think bigger is better syndrome[headbang][headbang][poop]

Jake@JHM
01-27-2014, 05:32 PM
3" sounds noisier, also has more drone, its like why not, lets make a shitbox outta this car :)

Haha a 3" test pipe won't cause any more noticeable drone than a 2.5".

vce1232000
01-27-2014, 05:36 PM
Haha a 3" test pipe won't cause any more noticeable drone than a 2.5".
I can agree with that[up]. But will it flow less then a 3 inch pipe in our application[confused]

vce1232000
01-27-2014, 05:39 PM
3" sounds noisier, also has more drone, its like why not, lets make a shitbox outta this car :)

Hey MMM. If you want to use a smiley. You click the arrow by the smiley face and there alot to choose from. Dont have to be shy about it[;)]. Its okay[up]

Operator
01-27-2014, 05:44 PM
Because some people think bigger is better syndrome[headbang][headbang][poop]

So every other company has no clue what they are doing?!? Only APR got it right?!?! Is that what you're saying?!?

vce1232000
01-27-2014, 05:49 PM
So every other company has no clue what they are doing?!? Only APR got it right?!?! Is that what you're saying?!?
Nope not at all[hail]. I'm just expressing another alternative. In my sig I have many other parts besides APR.[up]. I go for what proven and what works before I plop my money down[race]

Operator
01-27-2014, 05:54 PM
Nope not at all[hail]. I'm just expressing another alternative. In my sig I have many other parts besides APR.[up]. I go for what proven and what works before I plop my money down[race]

By your comments, you are thus dismissing anything you don't own as "not proven or doesn't work".

mec
01-27-2014, 06:02 PM
By your comments, you are thus dismissing anything you don't own as "not proven or doesn't work".
mmm makes sense....

vce1232000
01-27-2014, 06:03 PM
By your comments, you are thus dismissing anything you don't own as "not proven or doesn't work".
Nope again. I made choices the parts to put on my car thru research on[az] members on what worked for them and didn't work for them. I also admit with some of the newer selections out there. I mite have went a different route on some things[=(]. The tune being one of them. I think I would have gone with UM for the KO4. But since I was already stage 1 with them it was only a 100.00 upgrade instead of shelling out another $750.00 for another 40 chp.

My days of[wrench] modding a car on the blind is done[facepalm]. Spent way to much for mistakes[=(]. Ill take the safe route[drive]. Experience and a empty wallet taught me that[headbang]

AKO
01-27-2014, 06:07 PM
^ jeez thats alot of emoticons haha

vce1232000
01-27-2014, 06:09 PM
^ jeez thats alot of emoticons haha
Yes sir it is......[;)]. Every man should be in touch with their softer side. It will make you stronger[:D]

Operator
01-27-2014, 06:10 PM
Nope again. I made choices the parts to put on my car thru research on[az] members on what worked for them and didn't work for them. I also admit with some of the newer selections out there. I mite have went a different route on some things[=(]. The tune being one of them. I think I would have gone with UM for the KO4. But since I was already stage 1 with them it was only a 100.00 upgrade instead of shelling out another $750.00 for another 40 chp.

My days of[wrench] modding a car on the blind is done[facepalm]. Spent way to much for mistakes[=(]. Ill take the safe route[drive]. Experience and a empty wallet taught me that[headbang]

Well your word choice can lead people to read your input in a different manner than you intended.....

vce1232000
01-27-2014, 06:16 PM
Well your word choice can lead people to read your input in a different manner than you intended.....
That's the negative about reading composite texts on screen[down]. Versus human interaction or voice communication[up]. Im on here to learn what and what not to do when modding my car for my[drive] specific needs. Yes,sometimes you have to sift thru alot of[poop] to get to it. But hey its all fun at the end[hail]. Especially if you buying something and it actually works[up]

mec
01-27-2014, 06:37 PM
That's the negative about reading composite texts on screen[down]. Versus human interaction or voice communication[up]. Im on here to learn what and what not to do when modding my car for my[drive] specific needs. Yes,sometimes you have to sift thru alot of[poop] to get to it. But hey its all fun at the end[hail]. Especially if you buying something and it actually works[up]

I would love it if an Admin came in and was like "hey you know what?...you can only use the letters A-G and N-Q, also we took away your emoticons" God that would be so well deserved

vce1232000
01-27-2014, 06:43 PM
I would love it if an Admin came in and was like "hey you know what?...you can only use the letters A-G and N-Q, also we took away your emoticons" God that would be so well deserved

[=(][=(][=(] Again your such a Mean man Martin.........

Jake@JHM
01-27-2014, 06:49 PM
[=(][=(][=(] Again your such a Mean man Martin.........

What makes you so sure he is a man? [o_o]

mec
01-27-2014, 06:49 PM
Again o c a ean an an.........

Fixed for Admin friendly rules

mec
01-27-2014, 06:51 PM
What makes you so sure he is a man? [o_o]

That's true I might be a wizard. Or a pretty lady (bats eyelashes)

derrek
01-27-2014, 07:06 PM
What makes you so sure he is a man? [o_o]

He's actually Bruce Wayne

Jake@JHM
01-27-2014, 07:38 PM
I heard he is actually part goat and part Richard Hammond. No one is quite sure how that happened though.

mec
01-27-2014, 07:51 PM
I heard he is actually part goat and part Richard Hammond. No one is quite sure how that happened though.

Richard Hammond's goat half wants to know if you know what the torque specs for_____ might be?

Axle to tranny
Driveshaft to tranny
Transmission subframe long bolts to chassis
Transmission subframe short bolts to chassis
Das about it.

Jake@JHM
01-27-2014, 07:58 PM
Haha, not off hand but I will get that for you tomorrow when I speak to the techs!

mec
01-27-2014, 08:03 PM
Richard Hammond's goat half wants to know if you know what the torque specs for_____ might be?

Axle to tranny ???
Driveshaft to tranny 55NM
Transmission subframe long bolts to chassis 110NM+90*
Transmission subframe short bolts to chassis 65NM
Das about it.


Haha, not off hand but I will get that for you tomorrow when I speak to the techs!

I couldn't find the axle to tranny..so I'm going to go with my default torque setting on my torque wrench. Tight as FAWK!

Jake@JHM
01-27-2014, 08:17 PM
Haha! Are you in the process of doing all of this.. at this hour?

teckk
01-27-2014, 09:38 PM
Haha! Are you in the process of doing all of this.. at this hour?

Its never to late to make your wife jealous of your other wife lol

mec
01-27-2014, 11:28 PM
Haha! Are you in the process of doing all of this.. at this hour?

Attempting....It took me two hours just to get the transmission under the car, the jack under the car, and then manage to lift up the transmission rotate it 90* (there is no room under there), get it onto the jack(trust me this was way more harder than just putting it on).
Now..I have the jack in position, the transmission is on, and now the input shaft doesn't want to go in the pilot bearing....But I'm working on it...., Gotta get the transmission mounted atleast.