Why can't I find a VAGCOM mod list?

[4rings2turbos]

Google doesn't show anything for a 'master list' and little of anything else for the C5. Tried the wiki with two different browsers and is just blank. If there is no list then I'm starting one.

I know of the 402 for allroads, windows up/down with fob buttons but not really much else. Also looking for how to code in steering wheel control for OEM bluetooth.

[Sparkstack]

Mainly because there isn't a central convenience module on the C5, where most of the mods are done on other cars. There are some documented changes you can make to the instruments coding, but nothing special. Just silly stuff like when the needles and the backlighting comes on.

[4rings2turbos]

I know there's not a laundry list of mods, but I know there are at least a few. It's been. While some very this stuff has been discussed and it would be nice to have some refresher. I've forgotten every other mode besides the two I listed.

Anyone else have luck with the wiki?

[stef2.7t]

Most of the ones that are available on the C5 chasis, you can find in the B5 section.

The ones I know work are the window/remote operation, central lock at 15km/h, one touch lock/unlock all, headlight adjustment (if you got it available), 402 mod. Like it was mentioned, there isn't a whole lot to do like there is with the B8's

[plutoboyvp07]

Let's start our own list. I'll Google around tomorrow

[troyguitar]

Changing the location coding from USA to ROW gets rid of some of the annoying beeps.

I need to set up the 1-touch unlock all doors. Hitting the thing twice every time to unlock it is silly.

[ENDEE666]

There are some documented changes you can make to the instruments coding, but nothing special. Just silly stuff like when the needles and the backlighting comes on.


Sorry to thread jack, but more on this please. A while ago I swapped the cluster in my 01 A6 with a newer one with good LCD and the silver bezels. Since that swap, my needles are always illuminated. Kinda like it better. Would love to code the Allroad that way..

[4rings2turbos]

^all this stuff is worth mentioning and is difficult to find unless you know about it. I'd like the check that out too.

[Sparkstack]

Sorry to thread jack, but more on this please. A while ago I swapped the cluster in my 01 A6 with a newer one with good LCD and the silver bezels. Since that swap, my needles are always illuminated. Kinda like it better. Would love to code the Allroad that way..

This should give you an idea.
17 - Instruments
Adaption
(from the drop-down) Additional Features

I have my needles illuminated all the time, scale comes on with the lights. Stock, (so i believe on the S6) is to have both on all the time.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/31/zybedeva.jpg

[stef2.7t]

This should give you an idea.
17 - Instruments
Adaption
(from the drop-down) Additional Features

I have my needles illuminated all the time, scale comes on with the lights. Stock, (so i believe on the S6) is to have both on all the time.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/31/zybedeva.jpg

Hmm, I'll have to try this tonight.

[mithril]

Me too. I wonder if there's a code that sets the glove box light to be active whether headlights are on or not?. I get the concept, but in practise the glovebox almost always needs the light on to see anything in it.

[stef2.7t]

Me too. I wonder if there's a code that sets the glove box light to be active whether headlights are on or not?. I get the concept, but in practise the glovebox almost always needs the light on to see anything in it.

I've noticed this too! I thought it was a bulb glitch.

[mithril]

Nope, it's by design. Kind of makes sense as in theory if it's light enough to not need headlights you should be able to see inside the cabin, but in reality I find I usually have to have it on anyways.

[rollerton]

There's also the tran's coding. There are a huge number of SOFT coding variations that the trans module will accept, but hard to tell what difference each change makes.
I'll have a look when I get home, but from what I found MOST of the B5/B5.5 VW Passat tran's coding will work, as will the ones from the B5 A4, and some from the B6 A4. The best combo seems to be dynamic shift pattern, no shift out of first, and the "shift while in 'D' " code.
It's like.. 01032 or something? I'll have to check.
But, like they've said~ other than some fairly boring lock behavior, cluster lighting..some things in the radio module.. there's really not much. You can turn the Interior Monitor down to 50% sensitivity, that doesn't hurt.

[ENDEE666]

There's also the tran's coding. There are a huge number of SOFT coding variations that the trans module will accept, but hard to tell what difference each change makes.
I'll have a look when I get home, but from what I found MOST of the B5/B5.5 VW Passat tran's coding will work, as will the ones from the B5 A4, and some from the B6 A4. The best combo seems to be dynamic shift pattern, no shift out of first, and the "shift while in 'D' " code.
It's like.. 01032 or something? I'll have to check.
But, like they've said~ other than some fairly boring lock behavior, cluster lighting..some things in the radio module.. there's really not much. You can turn the Interior Monitor down to 50% sensitivity, that doesn't hurt.

I did trans coding in my B5.5 Passat W8 wagon to enable sport mode. Made a very nice improvement.

[ENDEE666]

This should give you an idea.
17 - Instruments
Adaption
(from the drop-down) Additional Features

I have my needles illuminated all the time, scale comes on with the lights. Stock, (so i believe on the S6) is to have both on all the time.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/31/zybedeva.jpg


Exactly what I was looking for! It says >2002, would it also work for 2001 or is it something different?

[Sparkstack]

Exactly what I was looking for! It says >2002, would it also work for 2001 or is it something different?

IIRC, from reading the label file in a txt editor, you may see different options.

[canadianA4B7]

If anyone can tell me how to stop the allroad from auto locking that would be wonderful. Say if i 2x press unlock and only open the hatch shortly the car itself locks all the doors. Dunno why. Then the alarm goes off it you close the hatch. Likely a bad connection somewhere. But it's done this with the side doors also. Say un lock the car open rear passengers door take stuff out close the door. Without locking the car w remote it ends up locked again. Passes me of.

[Sparkstack]

If anyone can tell me how to stop the allroad from auto locking that would be wonderful.

On most VAG cars, if you press unlock but don't open a door it will lock again after 30 seconds or so. Sounds like one or more of the door sensors are busted on your car so it's thinking you didn't open the door.. With the engine running if you open the affected doors does it show on the central display?

[mithril]

This should give you an idea.
17 - Instruments
Adaption
(from the drop-down) Additional Features

I have my needles illuminated all the time, scale comes on with the lights. Stock, (so i believe on the S6) is to have both on all the time.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/31/zybedeva.jpg

Ok tried it out and this one is meaningless for Canadian cars, likely because of our mandatory DRLs. My needles and gauges are illuminated when the key is in accessory (or engine running) regardless of the coding. The only difference when you switch to X circuit as you crank to start the car: 00010 turns off both needles and guages (but not dummy lights) when cranking, 010010 needles lit w/ guages dark while cranking, 02010 = needles dark w/ guages lit while cranking, 03010 = both needles and guages lit while cranking.


If anyone can tell me how to stop the allroad from auto locking that would be wonderful. Say if i 2x press unlock and only open the hatch shortly the car itself locks all the doors. Dunno why. Then the alarm goes off it you close the hatch. Likely a bad connection somewhere. But it's done this with the side doors also. Say un lock the car open rear passengers door take stuff out close the door. Without locking the car w remote it ends up locked again. Passes me of.

You're seeing the expected behaviour. You are supposed to be able to open the hatch (or truck for sedan) without unlocking the other doors. Popping the hatch with the remote disarms the alarm then rearms it when you close the hatch/trunk link. In terms of the automatic rearm, that's also intended and I don't think you can code it out. To prevent an accidental button push from leaving the car unintentionally unlocked and unarmed it will automatically rearm and lock the doors after 5 min (I think that's the interval) unless you open the drivers door.

[canadianA4B7]

Ok tried it out and this one is meaningless for Canadian cars, likely because of our mandatory DRLs. My needles and gauges are illuminated when the key is in accessory (or engine running) regardless of the coding. The only difference when you switch to X circuit as you crank to start the car: 00010 turns off both needles and guages (but not dummy lights) when cranking, 010010 needles lit w/ guages dark while cranking, 02010 = needles dark w/ guages lit while cranking, 03010 = both needles and guages lit while cranking.



You're seeing the expected behaviour. You are supposed to be able to open the hatch (or truck for sedan) without unlocking the other doors. Popping the hatch with the remote disarms the alarm then rearms it when you close the hatch/trunk link. In terms of the automatic rearm, that's also intended and I don't think you can code it out. To prevent an accidental button push from leaving the car unintentionally unlocked and unarmed it will automatically rearm and lock the doors after 5 min (I think that's the interval) unless you open the drivers door.

Ok its normal that say i open the hatch after getting out the drivers door. Remove groceries from trunk walk into the house leaving hatch open and doing a few more trips unloading stuff from trunk. Ill hear the doors lock which i understand. But should it not wait till the rear hatch has closed to re-arm the alarm? But your explination seems right but the actually system seems fawed then! Usually say after the 5 min wait time if i were to close the trunk, alarm, or after that wait time the alarm just starts going off without any driver/theif input

Just thought there might be a simple fix for my problem! I have seen some others doing a little wire repair so that the display will show the hatch open when in drivers seat. Ill likey do that in the spring and hope for the best.

[Sparkstack]

Ok its normal that say i open the hatch after getting out the drivers door. Remove groceries from trunk walk into the house leaving hatch open and doing a few more trips unloading stuff from trunk. Ill hear the doors lock which i understand. But should it not wait till the rear hatch has closed to re-arm the alarm?

If this is normal, my S6, and for that matter every VW i've ever owned, must have been broken.

[mithril]

No, that's not normal. I must have misunderstood what you meant. Sounds to me like you have a short in your drivers door latch mechanism.

[stef2.7t]

Ok its normal that say i open the hatch after getting out the drivers door. Remove groceries from trunk walk into the house leaving hatch open and doing a few more trips unloading stuff from trunk. Ill hear the doors lock which i understand. But should it not wait till the rear hatch has closed to re-arm the alarm? But your explination seems right but the actually system seems fawed then! Usually say after the 5 min wait time if i were to close the trunk, alarm, or after that wait time the alarm just starts going off without any driver/theif input

Just thought there might be a simple fix for my problem! I have seen some others doing a little wire repair so that the display will show the hatch open when in drivers seat. Ill likey do that in the spring and hope for the best.


No, that's not normal. I must have misunderstood what you meant. Sounds to me like you have a short in your drivers door latch mechanism.

Yes, When I exit my vehicle, Unless I lock it, it will stay unlocked. Seems like some sort of fudgery going on.

[mithril]

Yes, When I exit my vehicle, Unless I lock it, it will stay unlocked. Seems like some sort of fudgery going on.

A short in the contact switch in the drivers door latch can easily cause this. My old A6 exhibited the opposite behaviour where the car would randomly unlock the doors and roll down the windows, just depends on whether the short is on the arm or disarm side of the circuit. It's a pretty easy job to replace the latch mechanism; you just have remove the door card and glass frame assembly to access it, swap the lock trumbler into the new latch and reinstall. Unfortunately you can't buy the electronics portion separately and the full unit is about $300.

In my case I ended up being able to recycle it done the road though as the electric contact switch went on my A6 but the mechanical latch was starting to fail on the S6. I'd kept the latch with the bad electrical switch so I simply swapped the good mechanical latch from my A6 for the failing one from the S6 and made a new whole ;)

[canadianA4B7]

No, that's not normal. I must have misunderstood what you meant. Sounds to me like you have a short in your drivers door latch mechanism.

Is it in the drivers door switch or the hatch switch? Hatch does not recognized on heads up display on dash, drivers door does? Damn electronics always getting uder my skin!

Anyway vag com mods ive done. Window open and close with remote, 402'd approx 16f and 20 rear, i changed the lock and unlock stuff so the horn doesnt go off ( hated the sound of it. Sounded like someone stepping on a duck).

[mithril]

Probably both are failing. If you hatch isn't recognized as opening then that contact switch is not working and because it's reading as constantly closed the alarm would be able to arm as it thinks all doors are closed even with the hatch up. However the car should only automatically rearm if you've unlocked with the key fob and then not opened the drivers door, so if your car is arming itself after you've gotten out of the vehicle and not pressed the key fob then it's most likely because a short in the drivers door contact switch is telling the central locking system to arm. Failures in all the other contact switches will either mean the door/hatch always shows as closed cluster display or they will always show as open with the corresponding interior lights active. Issues with the drivers door contact switch also affects dooring locking and the alarm as that door has the manual keylock which is tied into the central locking system.

[canadianA4B7]

Probably both are failing. If you hatch isn't recognized as opening then that contact switch is not working and because it's reading as constantly closed the alarm would be able to arm as it thinks all doors are closed even with the hatch up. However the car should only automatically rearm if you've unlocked with the key fob and then not opened the drivers door, so if your car is arming itself after you've gotten out of the vehicle and not pressed the key fob then it's most likely because a short in the drivers door contact switch is telling the central locking system to arm. Failures in all the other contact switches will either mean the door/hatch always shows as closed cluster display or they will always show as open with the corresponding interior lights active. Issues with the drivers door contact switch also affects dooring locking and the alarm as that door has the manual keylock which is tied into the central locking system.

Thanx for this info! So if a door does not show as open on the display or the corresponding overhead light does not turn on. That would show the door contact switch to be not working. This is great info! This would me the hatch (no indication on dash no overhead light) has bad contact switch. Ill need to check rear doors now aswell. I know the switch is in the off position always. But if the door opens switch is set to turn on when door is open if no over head light turns on, then id have more bad switches. Looks like i will some day figure this all out.

[rollerton]

Either way it's the "latch" : the electrical and mechanical portions are all in the "latch" or 'door latch module". Sometimes the tiny microswitch fails, sometimes it's the electrical contact in the door latch.
I wish I could remember the details off the top of my head; but I've repaired more door latches than I've replaced. Many times the tiny microswitch- the part that makes the electrical contact- works fine, but somewhere the circuit has a short. In the last 3 or 4 Audi's I've owned and a couple Passats I have simply removed the latch and jumped the wire from the microswitch to the harness in at the electrical connector at the latch. I never really bothered to try and find where the short happens; but in short, the circuit for the courtesy/dome light and signal to central locks module goes through the door latch itself and quits working. The system works 100% fine if you simply jump the wire to cut the latch itself out of the electrical part of that function.

[ENDEE666]

This should give you an idea.
17 - Instruments
Adaption
(from the drop-down) Additional Features

I have my needles illuminated all the time, scale comes on with the lights. Stock, (so i believe on the S6) is to have both on all the time.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/31/zybedeva.jpg

Finally got around to trying this, under Instruments- Adaptation I don't have any drop down at the top, or a channel 19.. Car is a 2001 Allroad..

[Sparkstack]

Finally got around to trying this, under Instruments- Adaptation I don't have any drop down at the top, or a channel 19.. Car is a 2001 Allroad..

It does say 2002 on...

[troyguitar]

Finally got around to trying this, under Instruments- Adaptation I don't have any drop down at the top, or a channel 19.. Car is a 2001 Allroad..

My 2001 doesn't have the option either, it's annoying so I basically just turn the headlights on every time I drive otherwise the gauges are hard to see.

[ENDEE666]

It has to be possible somehow. On my 2001 A6 I had swapped in a newer cluster for the good lcd & the silver bezels, and that cluster has always illuminated needles..

[troyguitar]

Dunno. I only messed with it for maybe half an hour or so and gave up. Maybe it requires a cluster swap.

[Sparkstack]

It has to be possible somehow. On my 2001 A6 I had swapped in a newer cluster for the good lcd & the silver bezels, and that cluster has always illuminated needles..

Again, as per the screenshot i posted, it has to be a 2002 or newer cluster. Maybe the cluster you swapped in was a 2002?