S6 V8 Out, Tial 770R 2.7T In

[Mr. Rictus]

I'm going to be swapping the 4.2 V8 from my 02 S6 out in favor of a Tial 770R kitted 2.7T. The V8 already has an O1E mated to it.

I imagine that I'll have an easier time fitting the 2.7T into a C5 that had a V8 in it due to the larger automatic transmission that the V8s originally came with and the resulting widening of the transmission tunnel.

But I could be completely wrong, so can anyone confirm or deny my thoughts?

Also, are there any crazy things I'm overlooking?

[8520]

Assuming you're pulling the trans when you swap motors, yes. There is more room.

I'm excited to see your car progress.

[Mr. Rictus]

Assuming you're pulling the trans when you swap motors, yes. There is more room.

I'm excited to see your car progress.

I've already gotten rid of the crappy automatic that came with the V8. Do I need to pull the trans out again when I swap in the 2.7T?

Thanks!

[8520]

I'll wait for rednecktruck to chime in, but I would imagine you wouldn't have to. As long as you can get to all the bell housing bolts you should be good.

That being said, I hate mating engines to trannies with the trans in the car.

[4ringAR]

Just pull motor and trans together, it's not much more work and will make mating the trans and new engine easier.


Also, you will have so much room for activities in there! The v8 has a longer front end, so you will have some extra since in the bay which will be nice!

[A62TURBO]

I approve this thread!

[Widebody4.2]

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[Mr. Rictus]

I'll wait for rednecktruck to chime in, but I would imagine you wouldn't have to. As long as you can get to all the bell housing bolts you should be good.

That being said, I hate mating engines to trannies with the trans in the car.

Thanks for the info. I may be doing a differential at the same time so the trans would have to come out regardless. If it's easier to get everything together then the motor will definitley come out.


Just pull motor and trans together, it's not much more work and will make mating the trans and new engine easier.


Also, you will have so much room for activities in there! The v8 has a longer front end, so you will have some extra since in the bay which will be nice!

That's what I was hoping to hear! I plan on running Wagner (or some equivocal) intercoolers that are RS6 sized since I'll have the room.


I approve this thread!


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[8520]

Have you looked in to AMD intercoolers? They make some rather giant ones.

[LINDW4LL]

The SRM intercoolers are very good too and at a good price. But if money is no object....

Also, I'm surprised all the 4.2 lovers haven't jumped in yet. This thread is sure to rustle some jimmies.

[Widebody4.2]

The SRM intercoolers are very good too and at a good price. But if money is no object....

Also, I'm surprised all the 4.2 lovers haven't jumped in yet. This thread is sure to rustle some jimmies.
Already inquired for the motor. Lol

[Mr. Rictus]

Have you looked in to AMD intercoolers? They make some rather giant ones.

I'm not sure if I've looked into them yet. Thanks for the head's up.


The SRM intercoolers are very good too and at a good price. But if money is no object....

Also, I'm surprised all the 4.2 lovers haven't jumped in yet. This thread is sure to rustle some jimmies.

And another set to look up! I thought I had gone through them all already. From reading that 2.7T vs. V8 thread I figured there'd be more outrage at my swap.



Already inquired for the motor. Lol

My buddy is putting the V8 into his B5 A4.

[pohsib]

I'm not sure if I've looked into them yet. Thanks for the head's up.



And another set to look up! I thought I had gone through them all already. From reading that 2.7T vs. V8 thread I figured there'd be more outrage at my swap.




My buddy is putting the V8 into his B5 A4.

Won't get any outrage from me. I did the 2.7T swap into my A6 4.2. [up]

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[Mr. Rictus]

Won't get any outrage from me. I did the 2.7T swap into my A6 4.2.

It's good to know others have done it.

I'm the one who emailed you about those RS6 skirts. :-)

[pohsib]

It's good to know others have done it.

I'm the one who emailed you about those RS6 skirts. :-)

Pics on the way :)

[Mr. Rictus]

Pics on the way :)

[:)]

[Vinchenzo51]

I love people like you.

#nohomo

[Mr. Rictus]

Vehicle in question

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[NuGGet_PuFFer]

I'm doing this as well, kinda. I had a 2000 2.7 6mt a6 and picked up a 2000 casa white 4.2 a6 with a blown trans, and a silver RS6 interior. Plan is to make one car out of all of that lol. So far I stripped the interior completely on the white car, pulled the motor and trans, and am now removing the entire interior harness, almost all out, but I think I have to remove the dash support and other components I still have in there up front.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/03/jety3uzu.jpg

I love my Coleman LED headlamp, gotta be the best $20 I've spent, or close to it.

[Mr. Rictus]

Things will hopefully be progressing quickly now that my buddy finally got his shop.

I'm collecting the last of the parts needed for the build and I've got a question about clutches... What brands and models do you all run?

[8520]

I'm researching clutches currently.

My stage 3 a6 had a b5 rs4 clutch and it held ko4 power just fine, but didn't launch well.

With 770 power you're going to need a big boy clutch.

[Mr. Rictus]

I get discounts on Southbend clutches so I'll probably be going with their Stage 3 Endurance clutch and lightweight steel flywheel. The clutch is good for 525 torque. I think that'll be good enough for now since I won't be doing engine internals.

[ddillenger]

Why get 770's on stock internals? They don't spool till 5k, then you have to let off at 7k? Terrible combination, especially in a heavy car. I'm doing GT2871R's in my 2.7t swapped A6, but my motor is built.

[8520]

Why get 770's on stock internals? They don't spool till 5k, then you have to let off at 7k? Terrible combination, especially in a heavy car. I'm doing GT2871R's in my 2.7t swapped A6, but my motor is built.

Still no updates to that thread you made....

[ddillenger]

Still no updates to that thread you made....

I hate stringing people along man. When I read a build thread, I expect there to be a resolution. Half the time I get to the end of those things and I'm like....WTF?

Don't worry, I'll post when it's done. Just waiting on wrist pins, then my rotating assembly goes out for balance. [:)]

[Mr. Rictus]

Why get 770's on stock internals? They don't spool till 5k, then you have to let off at 7k? Terrible combination, especially in a heavy car. I'm doing GT2871R's in my 2.7t swapped A6, but my motor is built.


Where'd you get 5k from? From what I read, they reach full spool at 4k so I'll get some boost before then and it'll be quite a bit more power than I have now so I think I'll be happy. I'm not doing internals right now since I can't afford it. If you want to give me the cash I need to get my internals done right now, I'll gladly accept it. :-)

I got the 770R kit so I can up the boost once I get the money together to build the motor. I also had to buy a new clutch, Wagner RS6 intercoolers, have downpipes made, overhaul the 2.7T I bought, and pick up various bits and pieces from 034.

[Widebody4.2]

770's worked 2.8 heads rods and meth equal 580wheel epl has done several

[8520]

I hate stringing people along man. When I read a build thread, I expect there to be a resolution. Half the time I get to the end of those things and I'm like....WTF?

Don't worry, I'll post when it's done. Just waiting on wrist pins, then my rotating assembly goes out for balance. [:)]

I'll be waiting..... Ha ha. Need motivation to get my ft allroad done as well as my 3- a6

[Scotty@Advanced]

Please illustrate the wiring difference between ME7.1 and the ME7.1.1 the S6 uses.

[Korben007]

So much 2.7t widebody awesomeness!

The S6 and RS6 use ME7.1.1 and the 2.7t and 4.2 use Me7.1 and then switch in 2002 or what?

[Scotty@Advanced]

So much 2.7t widebody awesomeness!

The S6 and RS6 use ME7.1.1 and the 2.7t and 4.2 use Me7.1 and then switch in 2002 or what?

2003 in the C5 2.7 went to ME7.1.1 If I am not mistaken. The 2000 Audi A6 4.2 was ME7.1 as well.

[Mr. Rictus]

Should I be concerned with what you guys are talking about? I've got a matching ECU for the 2.7T I bought...

[Scotty@Advanced]

Should I be concerned with what you guys are talking about? I've got a matching ECU for the 2.7T I bought...

Yes

[ddillenger]

If you're swapping the interior harness too, ignore us. If not, time to break out the diagrams. It's not plug and play (very close if you have an 03-up 2.7t harness and ecu, but not 00-02).

[Mr. Rictus]

This is not good news.

[Korben007]

It's just switching pins in the plenum ya?

[Mr. Rictus]

I think that's what it'll entail, but I'm more worried about losing functionality if certain things aren't supported.

[Mr. Rictus]

Still no pictures, but an update... The 2.7T is almost buttoned up and the V8 has been transplanted and is running in my buddy's A4.

I picked up all new timing belt bits, sensors, seals and accessories for the 2.7T. I also picked up a South Bend Stage III Endurance clutch, a High Bias Torsen Center Differential, an Apikol rear differential mount, a Bosch 040 fuel pump kit, EPL tune and fueling (MAF, MAF housing and injectors), 034 billet fuel rails, Wagner RS6 intercoolers, P3 Cars Vent Integrated Digital Interface (fancy boost, etc. gauge), OEM RS6 side skirts, and an OEM RS6 front bumper.

That's a lot of shit now that I've written it all out.

The car is currently waiting patiently at Swoops' (Hardlines by Swoops Fabrications) shop. He's been kind enough to run point on this project and I'm thankful for that! Greg T from Tyrolsport is lending his expertise on it as well.

Swoops will be welding up some containers for the various fluids that are housed in the bay as well as making a crankcase breather bottle. He'll also be fabricating the 3" downpipes and the brackets that support the Wagner Intercoolers. Greg T put the finishing touches on timing the motor as I didn't want to somehow fuck it all up. Greg T will also get the wiring situation under control as I don't want to fuck that up either.

[8520]

Glad to hear you're still at it!

How does that v8 run in your friends a4?

[Mr. Rictus]

It starts right up and is loud as fuck currently since the exhaust isn't fully welded yet. There are still some odds and ends to finish up on his car before full attention can be paid to mine.

[VJ's A6]

Awesome project..

Where are you in Putnam Valley? I am in Carmel NY.

[Mr. Rictus]

I used to live in Putnam Valley, I moved to Buchanan 2 years ago.

I'm hoping to really pick up speed with the project now that the other swap is done!

[khalimadeath]

Needs pics ITT.

[Mr. Rictus]

Three pics I've got so far.

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[AudiForeman]

Beautiful setup. I have thought about swapping my Tial motor into the 6. It's still an option after seeing this :) keep up the good work.

[Mr. Rictus]

Time was limited on Saturday so the only motor work that was done was installing the 034 coilpack adapters and removing the old plugs and oil from the plug holes.

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We took a look at the bay and did some figuring on where the custom power steering lines would be run and which brackets in the bay can be removed before the bay is painted.

Also, the intake manifold and fuel rail were looked into. I picked up the 034 fuel rails and vacuum port plate so the vacuum lines can be simplified and cleaned up. The secondary air and evap systems are being deleted and a catchcan will be fabbed.

Those of you who run the 034 vacuum port plate, does it completely negate the use of the OEM ports on the intake manifold? How about the port on the Y-pipe?

[v8a6]

This is going to be one sweet machine!

[Quattro 4 Life]

Sweet build. Take pics after you finish some of that custom work/engine cleanup stuff. I'm interested to see how it turns out.

[paulk11087]

Interested in seeing pics and numbers once this project is complete! This is basically a dream build of mine(even thought I'm still a new S6 owner) but my 02 Avant only has 23k miles on it so it doesn't warrant the swap yet... AND we have our second kid on the way so there is no way we can fit a project like this into our budget lol

[OGBULLYLOCDAWG]

Interested in seeing pics and numbers once this project is complete! This is basically a dream build of mine(even thought I'm still a new S6 owner) but my 02 Avant only has 23k miles on it so it doesn't warrant the swap yet... AND we have our second kid on the way so there is no way we can fit a project like this into our budget lol

[o_o]

Say what?? Did you lose the keys to it for a couple of years?

[AudiA4_20T]

Please illustrate the wiring difference between ME7.1 and the ME7.1.1 the S6 uses.

Scot, should be almost exactly the same. The ECU doesn't have much to do with the car itself, more with the engine. The CAN protocol is all the same

[Deckedm]

A wow!!

Youll need my cf gaugepodholder i think ;)
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[Mr. Rictus]

This is going to be one sweet machine!

It'll be a sweet machine that will also happen to be pretty good looking too, thanks to you. [:)]


Sweet build. Take pics after you finish some of that custom work/engine cleanup stuff. I'm interested to see how it turns out.

I'll be posting pics as we go along and will definitely be including shots of all the cleanup and custom stuff.


Interested in seeing pics and numbers once this project is complete! This is basically a dream build of mine(even thought I'm still a new S6 owner) but my 02 Avant only has 23k miles on it so it doesn't warrant the swap yet... AND we have our second kid on the way so there is no way we can fit a project like this into our budget lol

Dude, 23k?!?!?!!? How's that possible?


Scot, should be almost exactly the same. The ECU doesn't have much to do with the car itself, more with the engine. The CAN protocol is all the same

From swapping the V8 from my S6 into my buddy's B5 A4, the wiring has been mostly figured out. We'll just have to go back over the notes and get them sorted for the V6 into the S6.


A wow!!

Youll need my cf gaugepodholder i think ;)
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/PaulMpower/DSC_8808_zpsa9363fc7.jpg (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/PaulMpower/media/DSC_8808_zpsa9363fc7.jpg.html)

That's a nice piece, but I've already picked up the P3 Cars gauge: http://www.p3cars.com/c5-platform-1997-2004/

[8520]

My A6 has a vent gauge pod, my allroad has the ste ppd.

........

My a6 will be getting the ppd. Summer is shitty when you don't have your middle driver side vent.

[paulk11087]

[o_o]

Say what?? Did you lose the keys to it for a couple of years?

LOL I had a thread about possibly purchasing the car and ended up pulling the trigger. 80 year old man bought the car and drove less than 2k miles a year on it and then he developed dementia and the car sat for about 2-3 years. I bought it off of the son who lived further away, the exterior is pretty beat up, not sure from what since the carfax was clean, but everything interior/engine wise was pristine. And the best part of it, I only paid $6500 :) granted I had to put $2k to get new brakes, rotors, fix the tailshaft seal, inspection, title, tax, etc etc etc, it's still worth it for $8500 for this car. I love it.

[Mr. Rictus]

LOL I had a thread about possibly purchasing the car and ended up pulling the trigger. 80 year old man bought the car and drove less than 2k miles a year on it and then he developed dementia and the car sat for about 2-3 years. I bought it off of the son who lived further away, the exterior is pretty beat up, not sure from what since the carfax was clean, but everything interior/engine wise was pristine. And the best part of it, I only paid $6500 :) granted I had to put $2k to get new brakes, rotors, fix the tailshaft seal, inspection, title, tax, etc etc etc, it's still worth it for $8500 for this car. I love it.

Ah, I read that thread. Nice pickup!

I bought my car from a dealer with 102K on it... The trans shit the bed after about a year of ownership so I did a 6-speed swap. Aaaaaaand it's all downhill from there, as this thread shows.

[Alez]

D: This is badass... Although I'm curious does the 2.7t need custom mounts or is it a direct "fit"?

[Mr. Rictus]

It's a direct fit, minus the snub mount bracket. The S6 has a mount on the front passenger side that's unlike the other V8s. The mount's bracket needs to be removed so the IC piping can fit. As for running a snub mount, maybe a 2.7T rad support would work?

[Korben007]

It's a direct fit, minus the snub mount bracket. The S6 has a mount on the front passenger side that's unlike the other V8s. The mount's bracket needs to be removed so the IC piping can fit. As for running a snub mount, maybe a 2.7T rad support would work?

I just went through this on my rs6 conversion on my s6. The rs6 front bracket mount is the same for the mount and the engine side. But the frame rail bracket portion is super low profile and is designed to clear the ic piping. I guess you need a snub mount thought. Maybe a 2.7t front core support with spacers on the snub bracket. The s6 frame rail mount grinds off easy.
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[LINDW4LL]

Curious as to the motivation to run 770s on stock rods, but cool build nonetheless.

[Mr. Rictus]

Thanks for the info Korben! I'll add it to my research.

Lindw4ll, the motivation is lack of funds at the moment. I think I mentioned it in the thread previously, but I don't have the extra cash right now to do rods so I'll just have a conservative tune until I can overhaul the motor. And I say "conservative" like 400+ whp isn't a lot. That's quite a lot more than the 340 crank hp the S6 had, so I'll be happy. I went with the 770R kit so I had room to grow. :-)

[Mr. Rictus]

More progress!!

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My buddy took all my trans bolts for his car so that means I've got to find out the part #s/length and pitch of new bolts. I've been researching but getting conflicting info. The Bentley says one thing, the dealership says another and google says a third! Does anyone have a list for me?

[VJ's A6]

Good progress, Scotty advanced automotion should be able to give you the part number for the bolts..

Are you going to Waterfest? Will the car be ready by then? PM me if you are, I am meeting up Vinny in Westchester

[vlangs]

sub'd looks good dude!

[Mr. Rictus]

Good progress, Scotty advanced automotion should be able to give you the part number for the bolts..

Are you going to Waterfest? Will the car be ready by then? PM me if you are, I am meeting up Vinny in Westchester

I did contact Scotty but ended up finding a thread with all the info. I needed on Audizine. I won't be going to Waterfest. We're shooting to have the car ready for VAG Fair on August 9th.


sub'd looks good dude!

Thanks!

[chris@fifteen52]

Get it done now

[Mr. Rictus]

Get it done now

Yah yah, I'm working on it as much as I can. [:p]

[Mr. Rictus]

Swoops is getting some real work done now!

Started from here...

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Ended up here for now...

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Picked up a metal slave cylinder and we'll be getting a matching line from Fragola.

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I got all the trans bolts torqued down, but one of them still wasn't the right part. :-/ Luckily I had an extra of a bolt that fit.

[nistah]

Sweet, build looks amazing! Were you able to get a set of the Miltek style Tips from pohsib?

[Korben007]

Can't wait to see how this thing looks in the engine bay!

[Mr. Rictus]

Sweet, build looks amazing! Were you able to get a set of the Miltek style Tips from pohsib?

Thanks! I haven't picked them up yet. We're still finalizing the exhaust.


Can't wait to see how this thing looks in the engine bay!

You and me both!

[Mr. Rictus]

Some fancy shots my buddy D. Tek took last Sunday.

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[8520]

Shouldn't the wastegate pipes be heading up through the hood?

[Mr. Rictus]

Shouldn't the wastegate pipes be heading up through the hood?

Were you there for our brainstorming session? [:p][:p][:p]

[VJ's A6]

Some fancy shots my buddy D. Tek took last Sunday.

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Great progress. Hope you have the car running for VagFair. I saw your current wheels for sale, got new wheels yet?

[Mr. Rictus]

No new wheels yet! I need to get my current wheels sold before I can get the next ones ordered. If you're interested in the wheels, I'm ready to negotiate!

[Mr. Rictus]

Quite a bit was acomplished/figured out this Sunday. [:)]

Figured out how best to utilized the 034 vacuum port plate with the N249 and N75 valves, which was bothering me for a while. That setup will be a mix of hardlines, -AN fittings, and Fragola black braided line. I'm still deciding if using the 034 billet check valves will be necessary. Does anyone have experience with them?

Swoops did the final welds on the portions of the downpipes and dump tubes that were tacked last weekend. They weren't fully welded into the exhaust flange in case they needed to be modified when the motor went into the car. It's a good thing that we didn't finalize the downpipes as both sideds needed to be clocked a little bit differently to fully clear the transmission tunnel. The dump tube on the driver's side also needed to be clocked differently. He and I were psyched that none of the tubes needed to be hacked up! All in all, everything fit pretty well considering this is the first set of 2.7T downpipes Swoops has made. [up]

Swoops figured out a stainless steel clutch line for the O1E to go along with the metal slave cylinder. The blue fittings will be changed out for black, this was a test fit.

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Shots by my buddy Danny Baum

Before we rolled it out

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In process

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http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b382/mr_rictus/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/35C72418-3EC6-43E1-BA72-BB682EEFA0EA_zpspzmdgrtx.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/mr_rictus/media/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/35C72418-3EC6-43E1-BA72-BB682EEFA0EA_zpspzmdgrtx.jpg.html)

Derp 1 and Derp 2

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b382/mr_rictus/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/A340AD1D-4EC7-44B7-970E-D1C70680C7E1_zps3qxfjudr.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/mr_rictus/media/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/A340AD1D-4EC7-44B7-970E-D1C70680C7E1_zps3qxfjudr.jpg.html)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b382/mr_rictus/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/C596CCB3-16EB-4617-8DD9-DC15E247EDDF_zpsjr4jgwtm.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/mr_rictus/media/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/C596CCB3-16EB-4617-8DD9-DC15E247EDDF_zpsjr4jgwtm.jpg.html)

Checking clearances

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b382/mr_rictus/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/26D6ABBF-7D23-4F80-AA6B-A9B0B4A9BBC2_zpsbncqsiam.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/mr_rictus/media/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/26D6ABBF-7D23-4F80-AA6B-A9B0B4A9BBC2_zpsbncqsiam.jpg.html)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b382/mr_rictus/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/87342B51-3E98-40B7-B00C-2E06D86C7A39_zpsiks9xf6u.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/mr_rictus/media/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/87342B51-3E98-40B7-B00C-2E06D86C7A39_zpsiks9xf6u.jpg.html)

"I'll tell you what I'd do, man: two chicks at the same time, man."

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b382/mr_rictus/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/C1E6AB86-A41D-4F34-9045-0BE0023D4A68_zpsubzzjmr3.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/mr_rictus/media/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/C1E6AB86-A41D-4F34-9045-0BE0023D4A68_zpsubzzjmr3.jpg.html)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b382/mr_rictus/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/03799001-B35C-42F7-8585-B7F168B489C8_zpskc9lvlie.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/mr_rictus/media/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/03799001-B35C-42F7-8585-B7F168B489C8_zpskc9lvlie.jpg.html)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b382/mr_rictus/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/1CD04928-8B21-420B-8158-CF86962F7BDF_zpsqoifflhk.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/mr_rictus/media/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/1CD04928-8B21-420B-8158-CF86962F7BDF_zpsqoifflhk.jpg.html)

THE MOTOR LOOKS SO SMALL IN THE BAY! It's so weird to see the motor in place.

We've still got a lot to do, obviously. The motor will come back out and the tubes & pipes will be clocked, midpipes will be made so the downpipes can be mated to my Billy Boat 2.25" catback, and the phosib Milltek-style RS6 exhaust tips will be attached to the exhaust. And all that is just the exhaust stuff...

Also needing attention:

Wiring to mate the 7.1.1 C5 S6 harness to the 7.1 C5 A6 ECU
Inspect and reinstall engine harness
Injectors, fuel rail (034), intank pump, and converting in-bay fuel lines to -AN
Converting the power steering lines to -AN and hardlines as mine were starting to rust through a bit
Install metal Master Cylinder
Catchcan fabrication (Swoops) with -AN fittings and lines
Power steering reservoir fabrication (Swoops) with sightglass
Delete coolant expansion tank and run coolant lines from 2.7T motor to S6 radiator
Install inlet pipes and Y-pipe
Fabricate intake tube
Install Wagner SMIC kit (I bought a kit for the RS6 so I'm hoping it'll fit!!)


That's a lot of stuff... [wrench]

[8520]

stuff

http://www.focusst.org/forum/attachments/focus-st-appearance/6581d1364567051-ford-power-ignition-button-installed-jc_power.jpg

[VJ's A6]

^^^ MORE POWERRR!!

Great progress.. Can't wait see the motor/car run..

[Mr. Rictus]

I'm glad you guys understand the entire reason this motor swap took place!

[NuGGet_PuFFer]

I'm glad you guys understand the entire reason this motor swap took place!

Becuz widebody, duh.

[8520]

I'm glad you guys understand the entire reason this motor swap took place!

An S6 is the best C5 avant we can get in the states, all it needs is a 6mt and some real power. The v8 makes for a great DD I'm sure, but superchargers on those motors are anemic at best.

[Korben007]

This build is awesome. It's like my rs6 but faster, easier to work on, and more economical on fuel. Kinda jealous. Was considering a 2.7t in my build but since I already had an s4!

This is really truly amazing. Can't wait for mpg specs and weight when ur done!

[Mr. Rictus]

Becuz widebody, duh.

No doubt about that. Whenever I see narrow body C5s I feel superior. [:D]


An S6 is the best C5 avant we can get in the states, all it needs is a 6mt and some real power. The v8 makes for a great DD I'm sure, but superchargers on those motors are anemic at best.

I looked into the supercharger but couldn't buy just the kit. I was already in talks with United Motorsport to do a tune for it! Once I had a buyer for my V8, I kinda went nuts and ended up with this thread. I'm hoping with the V6 it'll still be a good DD as it's my only car for now.


This build is awesome. It's like my rs6 but faster, easier to work on, and more economical on fuel. Kinda jealous. Was considering a 2.7t in my build but since I already had an s4!

This is really truly amazing. Can't wait for mpg specs and weight when ur done!

Seems to me like we need a direct comparison of cars once mine is done and painted. [:p] I love your avant since it has the V8TT in it... I did seriously consider using that motor too but I figured the 2.7T would be an easier motor to own in the long run. A drawback is that the 2.7T weighs more than the S6 V8 but it looks like the V6 sits further back in the bay, probably because of the extra length the widebody C5 cars have. Maybe that'll help the front end weight distribution?

Thanks for the kind words guys. [:)]

[8520]

I looked into the supercharger but couldn't buy just the kit. I was already in talks with United Motorsport to do a tune for it! Once I had a buyer for my V8, I kinda went nuts and ended up with this thread. I'm hoping with the V6 it'll still be a good DD as it's my only car for now.

What are you driving in the interim then?

A 2.7 off boost is still great low down low in my opinion, but big turbos make it fun ;)

[Mr. Rictus]

What are you driving in the interim then?

A 2.7 off boost is still great low down low in my opinion, but big turbos make it fun ;)

My wife has an 06 Scion xB. She drops me off on her way to work in the morning and I take the bus home. She's a saint and has been doing this now for 4 months. [>_<]

I'm hoping the V6 is comprable to the V8 when the V6 is off boost. I hope I get to experience it soon!

[Scotty@Advanced]

I'm hoping the V6 is comprable to the V8 when the V6 is off boost. I hope I get to experience it soon!

It's not. Off boost it's probably more lethargic than the 2.8. On boost it's Wheeee!

[Mr. Rictus]

It's not. Off boost it's probably more lethargic than the 2.8. On boost it's Wheeee!

Scotty, why do you have to poop in my Cheerios? [=(] [:p]

[Korben007]

Not gonna comment on low end. Don't wanna poop in anyone's stuff

[VJ's A6]

My wife has an 06 Scion xB. She drops me off on her way to work in the morning and I take the bus home. She's a saint and has been doing this now for 4 months. [>_<]

I'm hoping the V6 is comprable to the V8 when the V6 is off boost. I hope I get to experience it soon!

Damm dude.. taking the bee-line for 4 months, I feel bad for you..

[Mr. Rictus]

Not gonna comment on low end. Don't wanna poop in anyone's stuff

It's okay with me. When I'm in town I putter around anyway so as not to smash a wheel or the underside of the car.


Damm dude.. taking the bee-line for 4 months, I feel bad for you..

Eh, it's not that bad. The ride home is much longer but it's actually a helluva lot cheaper per day than driving! $2.50 for a bus ride home vs. $4.50 in gas.

I found the part number for the front lower crossmember from a 2.7T C5 A6 and ordered that part. I like to use all mounting points available to me. [:p]

The part number is 4B0 805 851 E and I got it from www.carparts4sale.com. They have a ton of parts.[wrench]

[vlangs]

Dude taking the bus home when you know you have a sexy C5 in the garage must be torture!

But keep it up and good looks, love me some twin turbo wide body Audi!

[Mr. Rictus]

Pulling the motor back out took 5 minutes this time!!

I finally remembered to bring the power steering bracket with me so I could finalize the accessories. I also test fit the up pipes that had finally arrived after being ceramic coated. I had to trim a lot more of the passenger side mount bracket than Tial suggested to get the pipe to fit correctly.

Once that was done, I cut off the mount on the passenger side frame rail, my buddy Paul (who put my V8 into his B5) cleaned he bay of the grime that built up in it,and Swoops worked fabrication.

Here are the oil feed lines:

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/28/ane8umy7.jpg

Sure, I could have bought the correct size banjo bolts to fit the distribution block, but what fun would that be? Instead Swoops welded an -AN bung onto the line that feeds the block, bent a hardline to feed the T and connected the lines.

Here are the oil return lines:

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/28/2age9uma.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/28/te4agaty.jpg

The motor only came with 1 oil return line but that didn't matter as the plan was always to have hardline oil returns. The oil pan -AN adapters are from 034 and are a really trick part! Too bad these lines won't really be seen.

[Mr. Rictus]

Today was pretty productive...

I put the fuel rails and 034 -AN FPR adapter onto the intake mani. (Forgot to take a pic with the FPR) These fuel rails are trick! Swoops will use hardlines to connect them.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/03/aqyvy6y7.jpg

Swoops finalized the welds after re-clocking the downpipes.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/03/y9e5egan.jpg

Fuel lines adapted to -AN

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/03/qu5ezuzu.jpg

I finally mounted the SMIC brackets!

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/03/yzudymu6.jpg

I got the 2.7T crossbrace but before I mount it to the car I'll have to cut off the tow bracket from the passenger side rail since the crossbrace has the tow bracket attached to it.

[8520]

So much hardline goodness here.

[Mr. Rictus]

Search #hardlinesbyswoops on IG for a lot more goodness.

[rrooccaa]

im checking to see if there is a bandwagon bus stop near my house...........i might be getting on it.[wrench]

[Mr. Rictus]

im checking to see if there is a bandwagon bus stop near my house...........i might be getting on it.[wrench]

I thought you were already driving the bus? [evilsmile]

Quit worrying and just buy a 2.7T already. [:)]

[paulk11087]

gahhhh!!! every time i see this thread having an updated post i click on it to see if it's finished! such a tease!!! i'm really excited for this project to be complete lol

[rrooccaa]

I thought you were already driving the bus? [evilsmile]

Quit worrying and just buy a 2.7T already. [:)]
Yeah let me water my money tree first lol

[Mr. Rictus]

I finally got to work on the car some over the weekend but Swoops has been getting busy when he can.

Passenger side downpipe and dump tube
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/07/423a45c030c971b3f164638f29b0266e.jpg

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/07/c590cbd5c2d8242b1df725885b7a0e64.jpg

Fuel feed and return lines here. The line connecting the rails in front will be a hardline.
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/07/0c2b65f91592581f4ecafda0edbe324c.jpg

Sometimes I have great ideas! This was not one of those times. The Wagners SMICs were made for an RS6 and I got them since they were the largest and one of the best flowing sets available. This pic shows how they sit in relation to a 2.7T motor... Luckily Swoops & I devised a plan to modify the APR bi-pipe and intercooler end to remedy the situation.
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/07/98922c6140f24372b8a50dfadd30f417.jpg

And here's a quick mockup shot!
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/07/e7d688d0d414c1d68f7753088e798d35.jpg

I've gotta thank 034Motorsports for excellent customer service and a bit of understanding for not charging me restocking fees and other fees when I didn't return my center dif within the alotted time. They were nice enough to give me store credit in full which I then used to pick up that sweet carbon fiber RS4 replica Y-pipe.

[stef2.7t]

That engine bay is the definition of "Throwing a hot dog down the hallway" Motor looks so tiny!

Other than that, nice effn work!

[milehighkid24]

I like the way you do things. I'm taking notes.

[Mr. Rictus]

That engine bay is the definition of "Throwing a hot dog down the hallway" Motor looks so tiny!

Other than that, nice effn work!

You got that right! When we put the front end on, the motor practically disappeared. Thanks.


I like the way you do things. I'm taking notes.

It's a collaborative effort for sure. I'm just happy that I've got friends with abilities far beyond mine when it comes to making things for cars.

I'm hoping that the SMIC nonsense doesn't push things too far off course, I really want to bring this thing out to H2O!

[pohsib]

What are you going to do for the snub mount? I have not been running in my car with my swap for a few years and I think its time to do something about it.

[NuGGet_PuFFer]

What are you going to do for the snub mount? I have not been running in my car with my swap for a few years and I think its time to do something about it.

May I ask why? Are u wearing out the other two mounts prematurely? Is there excessive vibration?

[pohsib]

May I ask why? Are u wearing out the other two mounts prematurely? Is there excessive vibration?

I have some vibration and I'm sure I'm wearing the engine mounts quicker without the snub mount and I'm only stage 2. It runs fine without it but at the power level Mr. Rictus is going to be at, I'm sure it is definitely needed.

[AudiForeman]

I love it so much!

[Mr. Rictus]

What are you going to do for the snub mount? I have not been running in my car with my swap for a few years and I think its time to do something about it.

That's actually something we've been discussing a bit... I don't have pics., but I picked up a C5 2.7T lower engine mount beam thinger a while back. In order to install it I had to cut off the tow hook mounting point on the S6, which wasn't a big deal since the C5 2.7T part has the tow hook mounting point integrated into it. Since the snub mount will not mount right into the space it's supposed to due to the distance between the motor and the beam, I think we'll be cutting the snub mount beam and welding it together with the mounting point moved back so it reaches the snub mount on the motor. Obviously there will be some reinforcing involved, but this seems like the best option. Everything will mount up the same on the frame rails.

Also, the power steering lines are being redone to eliminate that crazy loop around the motor. We are adding a PS fluid cooler to make up for the loss of the squiggly lines. The coolant lines will be addressed as well.

[Mr. Rictus]

I love it so much!

Thanks man!

[jbss]

Looks so dope!!! I thought stage 3 was a task .. Lol


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[Mr. Rictus]

Thanks! I guess I skipped ahead a bit.

Quick update for modifying the Wagners SMICs:

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/11/992a90afbbf37f7e0161e7f90987b814.jpg

Moving the port to here and reorienting the Bi-pipe will make everything happy. I'll be grinding down the welds on Saturday.

[Mr. Rictus]

And another quick update for the lower boost piping:

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/11/ae435ab70e2b7a3b2e2ad48e32ac4708.jpg

[Mr. Rictus]

Updates!!! No H2O for this car, but progress is being made.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/30/c95ae2c2a875baa8733168a367a1b24e.jpg

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/30/302a56a255f6e4cb8a929458a3a89ea6.jpg

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/30/3c9d0c3a4a66d9641e220a56a9aee442.jpg

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/30/c19e25715db50942a808db5c87bc48ee.jpg

The Downpipes can be removed with the motor in the car. :-p

This is the first stage of the exhaust setup, with the dumps being rerouted and the 3" downpipes mating up to the 2.25" Billy Boat (APR) exhaust.

[Korben007]

Exhaust reminds me of sentinels on the matrix

[Mr. Rictus]

I can see that!

[Mr. Rictus]

One more I missed. This is before I stripped the rest of the powdercoat off and painted the bi-pipe.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/01/cc0458e2c8ac14d539735bffefc95e84.jpg

[NuGGet_PuFFer]

You're either rich or have very talented and generous friends lol, very nice work.

[Mr. Rictus]

I've got tremendously talented and generous friends who are willing to do the ridiculous things I ask of them. This build was supposed to be easy since I bought a Tial kit! I think that Swoops is learning never to trust me when I say an idea/project I have in mind will be simple.

[Korben007]

I'm jealous now. Wish I would of gone 2.7t instead of 4.2tt in my avant. Perfect setup man!

[NuGGet_PuFFer]

I've got tremendously talented and generous friends who are willing to do the ridiculous things I ask of them. This build was supposed to be easy since I bought a Tial kit! I think that Swoops is learning never to trust me when I say an idea/project I have in mind will be simple.

Is swoops taking applications for new friends? If so, please send one this way.

[Mr. Rictus]

I'm not sure that he is, but his prices are very reasonable, his work fantastic, and he's located on LI.

[Mr. Rictus]

I'm jealous now. Wish I would of gone 2.7t instead of 4.2tt in my avant. Perfect setup man!

So far I'm happy with my decision, but I haven't driven it yet![emoji16]

Alrighty, the power steering lines and cooler have been installed using the OEM reservoir for now. After looking at the bay for a while we figured that the ABS module would have to be relocated to the rain tray in order to fit the catchcan/PS fluid res as planned. In the interim, we'll use a smaller catchcan and the stock PS reservoir. It's simpler and requires less fabrication work so I can have the car back for the winter. Sorry, no pics of the PS stuff yet. It's all push lock fittings.

How about coolant lines?

Lower coolant line will be attached to the OEM mounting point on the upper pan...

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/09/dd1075b647f6fffa4cc59afd8cce9246.jpg

The upper coolant hose is shown with the filler neck installed so we could delete the coolant reservoir. The overflow will be mounted on the frame rail on the passenger side. I still haven't painted the modified Bi-pipe...

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/09/4174abf7bc940213eab05d20c6700a68.jpg

[Mr. Rictus]

Random old picture of the S6.

Still working on it!

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/14/60f9f62adc6c8768f83cdf72d3a4ef23.jpg

[Mr. Rictus]

The wiring guy finally sat down and got all the pin-switching sorted so the ME 7.1 can talk to the ME 7.1.1... I did find something funny in the Bentley manual. The manual says that the APB and BBD motors both use ME 7.1 [confused] Is that right?

I plugged in the harness over the weekend, which was a huge chore since I didn't label anything before I unplugged it. [facepalm] There are a few plugs that are being deleted and one plug I'm still puzzled about. It's a brown 3 pin plug on the same part of the harness that the ICMs are on. I've got the ICM delete from 034 (which bridges the brown 4 pin to the brown 3 pin and the black 4 pin to the black 3 pin, right? [confused]) but there is this extra plug just hanging off of that bit of harness. Can anyone tell me what it's for?

The upper and lower coolant lines are finalized and shrink-sealed (I'm not sure what the technical term is) and the last PS banjo has been tightened down. Also, I blasted 150psi of air through the SMICs to get out any lingering aluminum shavings that were stuck in them then painted the welded areas black.

Work has begun getting the N75 and N249 valves plumbed from the intake mani via their new Fragola braided hose and hose ends. All harness wires, vacuum lines and sensors should be hidden underneath the intake manifold.

[rollerton]

Damn. This is right up there with the Arctic White Rs6 Build. You'll have to do an O.G. East Coast vs West Coast epic rap battle. Your custom work is amazing-- both threads make it look like a 4.2t retrofit is easier than a 2.7t though. Once you're committed I guess the difficulty / cost would be an afterthought.

[up]

[Mr. Rictus]

Thanks man!

Well... This was supposed to be a very simple swap with a Tial kit on the 2.7T... then I got ideas and everything went to shit as far as timelines and budgets were concerned. I'm really bad at keeping things simple and when I've got talented friends, who also have custom ideas, things turn out like this. [drool] Compared to what we're doing, I think a 4.2TT would have been an easier swap since the SMICs wouldn't have been modified. However, if I did do a 4.2TT swap, I'd still want to delete the EVAP, secondary air and all that other nonsense as well as redo the power steering, delete the coolant ball, move the ABS module into the raintray, bolt on bigger turbos, fabricate freer-flowing downpipes, etc.

What is the Arctic White RS6 build you mentioned? Do you have a link?

[Korben007]

The Artic White RS6 Avant build is mine. seen here....
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/527044-Project-Snow-White-S6-Thread

It is undergoing the knife again due to an oil leak which my or may not entice upgrades.

Props to you man. I agree that the 2.7T swap is more difficult. I believe your car will make more power be easier to service and all around sick setup. I was going for a OEM type setup. My swap was easy since its mostly the same car/chassis very little welding required and fab needed. Mostly a bolt in affair, but my S6 Avant after all this work is now pretty much an OEM RS6 Avant with a few custom mods. Wheels, suspension etc. What you got is something Audi never made and a unique and bad ass machine and i am envious of your masterpeice!

[Mr. Rictus]

Ah yes, I've been following your build thread. I love any sort of fast avant and yours fits that bill!!!

Thanks for the kind words, too.

[Eurotuned_A4]

Awesome build. Those wagner SMICs didnt seem so large with the front end of when I put them in my rs6 I used to have, seeing them on each side of the 2.7t makes them seem massive! Good work though!

[AudiForeman]

Great shit :) what's the spec on the wheels? Make size offset tires of that picture?

[Mr. Rictus]

Awesome build. Those wagner SMICs didnt seem so large with the front end of when I put them in my rs6 I used to have, seeing them on each side of the 2.7t makes them seem massive! Good work though!

Gotta get maximum cooling!! Thanks. [:D]


Great shit :) what's the spec on the wheels? Make size offset tires of that picture?

The wheels are Rotiform BWE, 19x10.5 square, et27 square with a 10mm spacer in the rear, 2.5" front lips and 3.5" rear lips. Tires are Nitto Invo in a 255/30 19. Also, the wheels are for sale!!!!!

I could have easily done a half inch larger lip in the front and an inch larger lip in the rear on an 11" wide wheel. The faces are deceivingly convex.

[Korben007]

Gonna be super close to upright in the front. Talk about splitting hairs!

[AudiForeman]

Hmmm what kind of price are you looking to get?

[Mr. Rictus]

Gonna be super close to upright in the front. Talk about splitting hairs!

Yeah, the barrels are close, but they fit.


Hmmm what kind of price are you looking to get?

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/606488-FS-Rotiform-BWE-19x10-5-square-3500-Buchanan-NY

[Mr. Rictus]

Swoops has secured a new shop so work will begin again soon on this project.

I'm psyched!

And the wheels are still for sale...

[Mr. Rictus]

Alrighty.

We're finally back at work.

The harness has been installed and tied back using available OEM points. The ABS module has been relocated behind the false firewall and I've got a smaller Braille battery so that it all fits. This will allow the custom catchcan/PS fluid reservoir to reside where the ABS module used to live. Also, all new Teflon-lined brake lines have been run to the front calipers and to the lines that run to the rear calipers.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b382/mr_rictus/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/F9AFD0A5-98CB-4290-94AE-1D447C9A9CE5_zpsm8q5jcp2.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/mr_rictus/media/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/F9AFD0A5-98CB-4290-94AE-1D447C9A9CE5_zpsm8q5jcp2.jpg.html)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b382/mr_rictus/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/D8F6F274-3275-418C-A843-06A8ECA84705_zpsitizx0qb.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/mr_rictus/media/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/D8F6F274-3275-418C-A843-06A8ECA84705_zpsitizx0qb.jpg.html)

The intake manifold is finally fully bolted down!!!! The fuel lines, vac lines, brake booster line, oil feed lines, fuel injector lines and coil pack lines are all hidden underneath the manifold. I picked up the 034 after-run pump delete hose so all of this stuff would fit. I have the 034 vacuum port plate which feeds the N75 and N249 valves. Those are hidden underneath as well. In the upper left of the pic., you can see that Swoops began adapting the A/C system to -AN. I need A/C!

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b382/mr_rictus/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/D9A2F3C1-BFDE-471B-8B68-AD58C094C972_zps25eranr2.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/mr_rictus/media/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/D9A2F3C1-BFDE-471B-8B68-AD58C094C972_zps25eranr2.jpg.html)

I don't have any pics at the moment, but the Podi digital gauge is installed and it's a really trick piece! It replaces the driver's side vent above the headlight switch.

The original plan was to use the 034 Carbon Fiber RS4 replica Y-pipe, but Swoops decided he wanted to make one instead.

[Mr. Rictus]

More progress!

The DV line has been remade since the last iteration was a bit bulky.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b382/mr_rictus/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/660A8B5B-910B-47C7-8FB3-EAA63B93739E_zpsq28eznos.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/mr_rictus/media/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/660A8B5B-910B-47C7-8FB3-EAA63B93739E_zpsq28eznos.jpg.html)

Now the DVs are installed and all boost piping is installed and hooked up.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b382/mr_rictus/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/4E61727D-20B2-4CB7-9028-E270CB2371E4_zpsfo0cvjrh.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/mr_rictus/media/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/4E61727D-20B2-4CB7-9028-E270CB2371E4_zpsfo0cvjrh.jpg.html)

[julex]

Suggestion, since I also run tiny battery in my car. Install battery protector module like "Battery Brain Bronze T1" which basically sits between battery and positive system cable and monitors battery voltage. Once it drops below 11.8V (~30% capacity of lead battery), it cuts the Supply and drain goes down to zero since module turns itself off as well. Simply pressing a switch (either on unit or wired to unit so you can put it inside of car) re-enables the power for starting the car.

This is the basic unit which I think is the best. There are also different models with wireless remotes to cut off/in the power but these continuously drain about 10mA (which is about 1/10th of normal drain from clock, interior monitoring and alarm/remote systems of car), even after the power cut, for the purpose of wireless re-enabling... but that kind of defeats the purpose of the module lol.

I think these are awesome when you have small battery which is very easy to drain if you're not careful and mindful that you only have few amp hours of capacity in these.

[Mr. Rictus]

I'll look into that battery protector. Thanks for the info.

[Mr. Rictus]

Here's the problem: the harness that came with my APB apparently doesn't match up to what the wiring guy figured out.

I found that there are 6 different wiring harnesses for the APB motor in the B5 S4. My harness is from an automatic S4, so that narrows the possibilities down to 3. Now, if such things exist, I need the 3 different wiring diagram harnesses for the 3 different automatic engine harnesses that were available in the S4.

If anyone has access to any of the stuff I need, I'd be tremendously grateful for the diagrams or info. that would help us to get the S4 harness connected to the S6 fuses near the ECU.

Please.

Thanks!

[NuGGet_PuFFer]

Maybe try ebay or the forums for a cheap used B5 S4 bentley manual, and do u have the bentley for the C5? I have one you could borrow, although I'll be starting to work on my project again soon and refer to Mr. Bentley quite a bit lol.

[Mr. Rictus]

I forgot to mention that I have the C5 Bentley and wiring diagrams for the B5. I looked for a B5 S4 Bentley, but they don't seem to exist.

The Bentley gives a generic wiring diagram apparently and doesn't account for the different harnesses for the APB.

Thanks for the offer!

[NuGGet_PuFFer]

No problem, there's also a manual wiring harness from a 2000 A6 2.7 for sale in the classifieds on here, not sure if that would help you but figured it was worth mentioning.

[Mr. Rictus]

We got the wiring stuff figured out with the help of the B5 S4 forum and them helping me realize I know nothing about wiring.

Catchcan/ power steering reservoir progress:

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/29/6a55af86393793a69f52343d3e96f03a.jpg

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/29/ac2f68190d4fcbce4a4b0571a848ea8e.jpg

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/29/c3d7bc313d7b350df7a20584cbce7d75.jpg

[julex]

socals4.com/repair for digrams and audi repair manual

[Mr. Rictus]

I got it all sorted. Thanks!

[Mr. Rictus]

Catchcan/power steering reservoir is complete.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/04/01/894aeab20cfaadba7c2e7772f317f1c7.jpg

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/04/01/bd2ec99f912edd4b583cfe7c733cea01.jpg

There will be a petcock on the bottom so I can drain the catchcan when I do oil changes.

We've still got a lot to do but progress is progress!!

[8520]

Love seeing your updates as I'm pretty much building the same thing you are, yet not quite as insane.

Have you guys figured out anything for the snub mount yet ?

[Mr. Rictus]

Catchcan mounted in place

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/04/02/430aee09e05bf605dffa2c54ce9654e5.jpg

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/04/02/7f82507e7ade761f29318e51864e93f4.jpg

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/04/02/ac51e47be5f4d380c5a5bb0bc083c174.jpg

Should I have it powdercoated to match the valve covers? Or have it done black?

Thanks man!

As for the snub mount, I picked up the C5 2.7T snub mount bracket that attaches to both frame rails. I've also got the 034 snub mount and cage. I think the plan is to weld tubes onto the cage so that long bolts can be inserted through the bracket mounting point, tubes, and then into the 034 cage. The tubes would have flat metal boxed around them. Does that make sense?

[NuGGet_PuFFer]

socals4.com/repair for digrams and audi repair manual

Domain expired!! [emoji33]

Nice progress.

[TheYellowAudi]

Should I have it powdercoated to match the valve covers? Or have it done black?


I'd go black. Would be a nice contrast.

[Mr. Rictus]

I'm thinking black too.

Wrinkle black? It'd be the only piece in the bay done in wrinkle.

[NuGGet_PuFFer]

I'm thinking black too.

Wrinkle black? It'd be the only piece in the bay done in wrinkle.

I say black too, but I wouldn't go wrinkle if nothing else is, plus non-wrinkle is easier to clean (you know u have OCD when that's a legitimate factor in deciding car parts lol)

[Mr. Rictus]

I say black too, but I wouldn't go wrinkle if nothing else is, plus non-wrinkle is easier to clean (you know u have OCD when that's a legitimate factor in deciding car parts lol)

I agree, non-wrinkle would be MUCH easier to keep clean. I hadn't even considered that!

[Brandon002]

You are absolutely insane... I love it.

This is one of, if not THE BEST threads I've read on this site. The fabrication work and time you guys are putting in absolutely amazes me. Keep it up and keep posting pictures. I'm more and more envious with each photo I look at.

[8520]

As for the snub mount, I picked up the C5 2.7T snub mount bracket that attaches to both frame rails. I've also got the 034 snub mount and cage. I think the plan is to weld tubes onto the cage so that long bolts can be inserted through the bracket mounting point, tubes, and then into the 034 cage. The tubes would have flat metal boxed around them. Does that make sense?

I get the gist of it, but what are is the snub mount bracket you're referring to? From memory the snub mount just sits in the core support.

[Ed@Gauged]

I get the gist of it, but what are is the snub mount bracket you're referring to? From memory the snub mount just sits in the core support.

I think he is referring to something like this. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/01-05-AUDI-ALLROAD-C5-A6-2-7-FRONT-LOWER-CORE-SUPPORT-BRACKET-/151548861184?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3AAudi%7CModel%3AA6&hash=item2349041b00&vxp=mtr)

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODAwWDEyMDA=/z/OmYAAOSwWKtUsqZO/$_57.JPG

[Mr. Rictus]

You are absolutely insane... I love it.

This is one of, if not THE BEST threads I've read on this site. The fabrication work and time you guys are putting in absolutely amazes me. Keep it up and keep posting pictures. I'm more and more envious with each photo I look at.

Thanks man!

And that pic is exactly what part I'm talking about. [emoji106][emoji106]

[Mr. Rictus]

More progress!

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/04/07/c07f204456223723d330dfec5afbaad8.jpg

Boost signal line plumbed

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/04/07/8ee35d4112bf3dc3db5803ba7e32d860.jpg

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/04/07/49de967f651038259a6c2f78be4f5928.jpg

Hardline brake lines to and from the reservoir. It sucks that all this hard work won't be seen!

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/04/07/1645394afa403f95dbf7d4db9ffe089e.jpg

All the -AN lines for the catchcan... Snakes £@($ing

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/04/07/c3ec94f46e4fac936e90e50da380d0aa.jpg

Bonus -AN shot

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/04/07/ecd5a04e07f64ac5fe44cabe98106ae7.jpg

-10AN adapters for the coolant lines from the heatercore to the coolant pipe. I picked these up from Unix in Canada.

[Mr. Rictus]

My ECU doesn't have power...

Any guesses?

[8520]

I believe there is a fuse just for the Ecu.

[Mr. Rictus]

Yeah, there is, but some connection in the harness must be missing or mis-pinned... We don't want to just run a wire from the fuse to the ECU.

[Mr. Rictus]

Update: The ECU has power, but there is no power at fuse 32, nor at the fuel pump relay.

[Mr. Rictus]

Got the wiring sorted! I don't know the details, but an extra pin + wire had to be added.

After all that, the fuel pump relay is bad. Once I get a new one, we'll try to start it.

[Mr. Rictus]

There was still a question about this pin:

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/05/8242c79defbb2daf51395a09e4ac5ab6.jpg

[Mr. Rictus]

We finally got the motor to turn over on Friday night.

We couldn't start it since there was something funny going on with the EPL flashloader. [:/]

I needed to do the immo defeat before turning the car on but the flashloader wouldn't recognize the cable.

I guess that's a small step forward!

[NuGGet_PuFFer]

We finally got the motor to turn over on Friday night.

We couldn't start it since there was something funny going on with the EPL flashloader. [:/]

I needed to do the immo defeat before turning the car on but the flashloader wouldn't recognize the cable.

I guess that's a small step forward!

Congrats man, that much closer to driving it! Which reminds me, I really need to get back to work on my car lol.

[Mr. Rictus]

Thanks!

I'm hoping we actually get it to start this week so the rest of the fab work can be finished.

[Mr. Rictus]

The car finally runs!!!

For some reason the video I've got won't upload to photobucket correctly and I can't post it through Tapatalk either. Balls.

Apparently C5 S6s have an issue with the in cabin wiring harness to the fuel pump relay wherein the wires are too short and they work themselves out of the plug for the relay. That's what was going on in my car. Now that that's fixed, it runs.

The cluster has to be recoded to talk to the ECU correctly and the EPL flash has to be uploaded. For some reason we've still got a connection error.

[Mr. Rictus]

I drove the car out of and back into the shop yesterday! It runs and drives!

The cluster is going to be recoded so it'll play nice with everything else.

One potential problem/question: How do you know if the rear main seal is bad? I installed a new one when refreshing the motor but there was a small puddle of oil underneath the car after it sat to idle. Could it be that since the seal was dry that some oil had to pass through before it fully sealed? Or am I screwed and have to replace it again?

[02 A6 2.7T]

The rear main seals are very easy to damage during replacement. There is a sleeve that is used when installing the new one which keeps the bead of the rubber from folding over when it's slid over the crankshaft ... it's a PITA and will probably need to be replaced again

[Mr. Rictus]

The rear main seals are very easy to damage during replacement. There is a sleeve that is used when installing the new one which keeps the bead of the rubber from folding over when it's slid over the crankshaft ... it's a PITA and will probably need to be replaced again

That's not good news. Well I guess we'll drop just the trans and replace it.

[Mr. Rictus]

More progress!

I finally decided to install the StopTech kit I've been trying to sell for over a year now.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b382/mr_rictus/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/3F4D5285-279D-4E8C-85D8-7E7A55B5371A_zpsdw3xexgp.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/mr_rictus/media/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/3F4D5285-279D-4E8C-85D8-7E7A55B5371A_zpsdw3xexgp.jpg.html)

Here's a little coolant overflow bottle that Swoops whipped up in no time.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b382/mr_rictus/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/77034D1F-4794-4E2C-9CAD-8BFB27708F63_zpsrvie780r.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/mr_rictus/media/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/77034D1F-4794-4E2C-9CAD-8BFB27708F63_zpsrvie780r.jpg.html)

A/C lines and dryer

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b382/mr_rictus/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/2B30D506-8BAA-4618-BE3E-E8477206ECC0_zpswjphctpq.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/mr_rictus/media/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/2B30D506-8BAA-4618-BE3E-E8477206ECC0_zpswjphctpq.jpg.html)

Upper coolant line connecting the 2.7T to the V8 radiator

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b382/mr_rictus/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/A44C4F5C-025D-4E88-B462-FF424D10011F_zpszdz43rij.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/mr_rictus/media/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/A44C4F5C-025D-4E88-B462-FF424D10011F_zpszdz43rij.jpg.html)

More A/C and coolant lines... That little line in the top of the frame had to be remade and the final version is in the lower picture.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b382/mr_rictus/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/93116935-AD90-42DA-A309-7B9EF9376C22_zpszzkhpwx6.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/mr_rictus/media/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/93116935-AD90-42DA-A309-7B9EF9376C22_zpszzkhpwx6.jpg.html)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b382/mr_rictus/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/FBD4F88C-4795-4096-BA2A-20BB158AD7F2_zpsutvne4jr.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/mr_rictus/media/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/FBD4F88C-4795-4096-BA2A-20BB158AD7F2_zpsutvne4jr.jpg.html)

For some reason the EPL flash won't load to the ECU. I've contacted EPL about this and I'll have to do so again today. The car doesn't even want to idle on the stock tune coupled with the EPL injectors and MAF. We need to bleed the coolant system and drive the car around a bit in its current state, which is virtually finished. Swoops is going to make the Y-pipe and the car is ready to go!!

[JTown77]

Black Duck Tape ftw.

I like it, I have been considering a similar build. The price tag of which would probably lead to divorce.

[Mr. Rictus]

Black Duck Tape ftw.

I like it, I have been considering a similar build. The price tag of which would probably lead to divorce.

I had to go back and look for the duct tape you mentioned... The Y-pipe is temporary. [wrench] [>_<]

I have a very understanding wife!

[VJ's A6]

Would the car be ready for Waterfest? Are you planing to go this year?

[Mr. Rictus]

I'm thinking about it. My wife is due on August 5th... I'm not making any hard plans until after then.

[AudiA4_20T]

I'm thinking about it. My wife is due on August 5th... I'm not making any hard plans until after then.

So no then...

[JediJoker7169]

I had to go back and look for the duct tape you mentioned... The Y-pipe is temporary. [wrench] [>_<]
So did I. I hope the hot air intake is also temporary?

[Racin2redline]

The rear main seals are very easy to damage during replacement. There is a sleeve that is used when installing the new one which keeps the bead of the rubber from folding over when it's slid over the crankshaft ... it's a PITA and will probably need to be replaced again

Realize this is an older post but RMS isn't that difficult to replace, mainly the reason they fail very early is people don't lube them up with oil when they put them on... What do you think happens when you start the motor and it spins at 1000rpms for a few min before oil fully reaches the seal?

Rictus I've been following this build for a while its awesome to see progress! Looks awesome!

[Mr. Rictus]

So no then...

I can't say for sure either way. [:)]


So did I. I hope the hot air intake is also temporary?

Swoops will be building a custom Y-pipe, which will have larger inner dimensions than a stock version, but the bay only allows so much room for the huge filter used on the MAF. The filter will be angled down a bit towards the A/C dryer and a heat shield will come later.


Realize this is an older post but RMS isn't that difficult to replace, mainly the reason they fail very early is people don't lube them up with oil when they put them on... What do you think happens when you start the motor and it spins at 1000rpms for a few min before oil fully reaches the seal?

Rictus I've been following this build for a while its awesome to see progress! Looks awesome!

The oil leak from the rear main has pretty much stopped completely after the initial leak. I don't think I lubed it with oil when I replaced it so that may have been the issue. Fingers crossed!

Thanks man!

[Mr. Rictus]

I ended up sending my ECU to EPL and Tony took care of it quickly. I can't recommend EPL enough!

Y-pipe is tacked up!

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b382/mr_rictus/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/0BE648DB-4BCC-46D3-B259-03DAE23AB82A_zpscz8xdznr.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/mr_rictus/media/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/0BE648DB-4BCC-46D3-B259-03DAE23AB82A_zpscz8xdznr.jpg.html)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b382/mr_rictus/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/9C316040-ADBB-4E49-8132-B3120E19A392_zpst1jrj2jk.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/mr_rictus/media/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/9C316040-ADBB-4E49-8132-B3120E19A392_zpst1jrj2jk.jpg.html)

It's 3.5" round to a 3.5" round to oval transition, then dual 3" oval tubing to the transitions that Swoops made. I think the silicone couplers will be changed up as well.

[Mr. Rictus]

http://vid23.photobucket.com/albums/b382/mr_rictus/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/VID_35761215_073740_zps9jfgh356.mp4

It really runs!

[VJ's A6]

Congrats. Nice to see it run finally!!!!

[Mr. Rictus]

Thanks man, I'm psyched.

Now the bad news: the rear main seal definitely has to be changed, so that'll be addressed next week; 1 of the -AN coolant fittings is leaking and of course it's one that's on the large branching coolant pipe that goes underneath the intake manifold.

Can that pipe be removed without removing the manifold? I really don't want to have to take the manifold off...

[02 A6 2.7T]

Thanks man, I'm psyched.

Now the bad news: the rear main seal definitely has to be changed, so that'll be addressed next week;

Check out this thread for a clever installation tool for the rear main seal ....

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/503538-Rear-Main-Sear-Install-After-3-FAIL-Attempts

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af130/budda0001/IMG-20120911-00221.jpg

[Mr. Rictus]

Unfortunately, Canada Dry bottles aren't shaped like that anymore... And my car is apart with no way of reinstalling the rear main seal now.

[Mr. Rictus]

We figured out another tool... Part of a Moe's cup fit over the crank and between the seal. The car didn't get fully reassembled so it won't be at Cult Classic, but at least the seal is fixed.

[Mr. Rictus]

Quick update: Clutch master cylinder died, replaced it with another unit that was bad, and finally got a good one in there.

The car rips. RIPS!

No videos right now. I should be picking it up this Saturday.

[jaychen]

hell. yes.

sick build man

[Brandon002]

Videos... we want videos!!

[Mr. Rictus]

I had one video of it driving around but I can't get Photobucket to host it. I posted it on YouTube and it's not working there either.

I'll get some as soon as I can.

[Chris_s1]

This is so badass man, congrats on an awesome build. Can't wait to see it in action. I've been thinking about a similar swap, although I'm not sure which turbo's I want yet, the 770's are some bad boys.

[chris@fifteen52]

How about pics pf the newest "mod" to the car? ;)

[Mr. Rictus]

Stupid videos won't work. :banghead::banghead:

The car runs, makes 22lbs of boost, and I'm happy! We need to iron out a few kinks for it to be 100%, but even with the kinks it's still stupid fast and the acceleration is :D:D

I finally put my new (to me) wheels on last week. They're 19x10 Work Meister with 275/30 19 Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta tires.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b382/mr_rictus/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/EE580CAB-77A1-495F-8CD0-A873EFEC1770_zpsa89h99uv.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/mr_rictus/media/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/EE580CAB-77A1-495F-8CD0-A873EFEC1770_zpsa89h99uv.jpg.html)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b382/mr_rictus/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/88899699-91B4-4C22-9BAB-347BE3E65573_zps33gi5lzy.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/mr_rictus/media/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/88899699-91B4-4C22-9BAB-347BE3E65573_zps33gi5lzy.jpg.html)

The car needs paint, obviously. :P

[RS_666]

Rictus- do you still have the S6 engine? If so would you be willing to sell just the bare block and crankshaft? I need those parts for 6MT of my Rs6 as I don't want to use adapter.

If your willing I'd like to know the mileage on the engine.

[Mr. Rictus]

Rictus- do you still have the S6 engine? If so would you be willing to sell just the bare block and crankshaft? I need those parts for 6MT of my Rs6 as I don't want to use adapter.

If your willing I'd like to know the mileage on the engine.

Sorry, my old V8 went into my buddy's A4.

[VJ's A6]

Looks the car is back at your place. You got any pics of the engine bay?

[Mr. Rictus]

Here ya go!

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[JediJoker7169]

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You've driven all of those tracks? I recognize Laguna Seca.

[Mr. Rictus]

I haven't driven any tracks. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] My wife can make vinyl stickers so she cut some tracks for me, we sprayed the bumper silver, stuck the vinyl on, sprayed it black, and then peeled the vinyl off. It's somewhat temporary.

[NuGGet_PuFFer]

Awesome stuff man, glad you got it running. Love the wheels. That Y-pipe looks awesome. I'm gonna send u a PM, I'm doing a similar swap and have some ?'s for ya if u don't mind.

[X-ZZ4]

Damn...serious work in this thread. Some talented people here. And in another thread.....I'm struggling with my air box. I'm feeling pretty wimpy....LOL.

[JediJoker7169]

I haven't driven any tracks. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] My wife can make vinyl stickers so she cut some tracks for me, we sprayed the bumper silver, stuck the vinyl on, sprayed it black, and then peeled the vinyl off. It's somewhat temporary.
Tisk, tisk... It is a cool look, though. Do yourself a favor: try a trackday.

[Mr. Rictus]

Awesome stuff man, glad you got it running. Love the wheels. That Y-pipe looks awesome. I'm gonna send u a PM, I'm doing a similar swap and have some ?'s for ya if u don't mind.

Thanks and thanks and thanks and PM replied. [:)]


Damn...serious work in this thread. Some talented people here. And in another thread.....I'm struggling with my air box. I'm feeling pretty wimpy....LOL.

Hey man, you gotta start somewhere. I couldn't do anything when I got my GTI 11 years ago... I still can't do much, but I can do more than nothing. [:D]


Tisk, tisk... It is a cool look, though. Do yourself a favor: try a trackday.

It's funny you mention track days, they came up in conversation the other day. I will definitely be looking in to doing one.

[Mr. Rictus]

I got the RS6 bumpers and skirts painted but only got the bumper installed. The car is back at Hardlines By Swoops for finishing up the dual 3" exhaust.

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[A Stupid Turtle]

Anything you would do differently if you could re do it?
Would you perhaps go a different route?

[Mr. Rictus]

Anything you would do differently if you could re do it?
Would you perhaps go a different route?

Well, the car is far from done so I can't really say what I'd change... However, I wish I saved up enough to get the full color change done when the motor was out.

As for using a 2.7T, the parts are relatively cheap and plentiful and the motor fits easily into the bay, so I definitely wouldn't change that!

[NuGGet_PuFFer]

I got the RS6 bumpers and skirts painted but only got the bumper installed. The car is back at Hardlines By Swoops for finishing up the dual 3" exhaust.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b382/mr_rictus/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/9C4BFF1E-D4F8-4B96-AF50-40572DF0E583_zpss2f7fxsb.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/mr_rictus/media/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/9C4BFF1E-D4F8-4B96-AF50-40572DF0E583_zpss2f7fxsb.jpg.html)

Car looks great! Where'd you source your RS6 bumpers/skirts from?


Anything you would do differently if you could re do it?
Would you perhaps go a different route?

What's not to like? He's got a 6spd, widebody, twin turbo wagon, I say bravo good sir!

[Mr. Rictus]

Thanks man!

I got the front bumper from a place online that sells refurbished bumpers... I can't remember the name. Crap. I got the rear bumper and skirts from two different users on here.

[A Stupid Turtle]

4.2 twin turbo, 6 speed perhaps?

[erroob0977]

I've been following your build for a while, just wanted to say awesome job! I love all the custom fab work and that you didn't cut any corners, hope you're enjoying it!

[Mr. Rictus]

4.2 twin turbo, 6 speed perhaps?

That'd been nice, but prohibitively expensive to have the block built, custom pistons and rods made, and then figuring out how to build the heads. I want the car to be fast, and also have easy access to replacement parts. Building the 2.7T (when I've saved up enough money to do so) will be a whole lot cheaper than building a 4.2 any day of the week. I thought about getting an RS6 motor, but that'd present the same exact problem as building the 4.2 already in the car.


I've been following your build for a while, just wanted to say awesome job! I love all the custom fab work and that you didn't cut any corners, hope you're enjoying it!

Thanks a lot...but all the fab work was done by Swoops! I'm trying to enjoy it but getting the tune fully sorted is proving difficult.

[Cajkaaa]

Show off

[Mr. Rictus]

Show off

x2

[Mr. Rictus]

I had Swoops finish up my dual 3" turbo back exhaust last week. It came out perfectly, as you can tell from the pics. We used Vibrant mufflers and the car sounds like it means business now! I also installed my euro RS6 rear bumper.

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[NuGGet_PuFFer]

Any sound clips of the exhaust? I have/had pretty much the same set-up(mine was: eBay 3"-2.5" catless dp's straight back 2.5" all the way to magnaflows, no x-pipe and/or resonators) and found it to be kinda raspy, samesies for u?

[Mr. Rictus]

I can't get any videos to save to photobucket so no clips. Sorry.

I don't find it raspy, and Vibrant mufflers have a pretty unique sound to them. I imagine that the extra 1/2" diameter of piping would change the sound, no?

[Cajkaaa]

well this thing sounds amazing at idle. Priest sent me a nice video the other day.

Caption was....MAKE YOUR CAR SOUND LIKE THIS!

[Mr. Rictus]

Did you see the vid on IG?

[Cajkaaa]

Did you see the vid on IG?

the drive by?

Of course i did! The car sounds amazing.

[twizz]

Holy Motivation


Mr. Rictus, you have literally built the perfect automobile (in my eyes at least lol)

-t

[Mr. Rictus]

Thanks man. We've got big plans for stage 2 of the build. I just need to decide if it'll be this winter or next to implement them.

[Korben007]

Whats the Instagram tag?

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[a4kamila6]

I had Swoops finish up my dual 3" turbo back exhaust last week. It came out perfectly, as you can tell from the pics. We used Vibrant mufflers and the car sounds like it means business now! I also installed my euro RS6 rear bumper.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b382/mr_rictus/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/410FBC4C-D90C-40A2-BE21-91410FA9895C_zpshk8ydm5h.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/mr_rictus/media/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/410FBC4C-D90C-40A2-BE21-91410FA9895C_zpshk8ydm5h.jpg.html)

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Noob question, but what are those additional thinner pipes for up top by the downpipes? Is that from the waste gate?

[a4kamila6]

I ended up sending my ECU to EPL and Tony took care of it quickly. I can't recommend EPL enough!

Y-pipe is tacked up!

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It's 3.5" round to a 3.5" round to oval transition, then dual 3" oval tubing to the transitions that Swoops made. I think the silicone couplers will be changed up as well.

and sorry to ask questions that have probably already been answered, but that metal box on drivers side.. some combo of evap and power steering/anti freeze lol? Cause I cant find your expansion tank [:d]

[Mr. Rictus]

My IG is lazerface_rictus.

You got it in one, those are the wastegate dumps.

The aluminum box is the power steering res. and catchcan. The coolant reservoir was deleted since it's not really necessary and clutters up the bay.

[twizz]

I am now following sir lazerface!

my update lacking profile would be penguins_n_turtles lol

-t

[Kamil`]

So if i understand correctly, she must be one leak free beast, because if you develop a slight leak, no extra coolant? is it possible to monitor coolant level within system without the expansion tank? This intrigues me because this is the first tank-less setup i have seen, or did i misunderstand.


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[Mr. Rictus]

I am now following sir lazerface!

my update lacking profile would be penguins_n_turtles lol

-t

I followed you back.


So if i understand correctly, she must be one leak free beast, because if you develop a slight leak, no extra coolant? is it possible to monitor coolant level within system without the expansion tank? This intrigues me because this is the first tank-less setup i have seen, or did i misunderstand.

You understood it. No tank! There is still the low coolant warning that will pop up on the display and if I want to check manually, all I have to do is pop off the inline filler cap and have a look.

[ruiz]

Stupid videos won't work. :banghead::banghead:

The car runs, makes 22lbs of boost, and I'm happy! We need to iron out a few kinks for it to be 100%, but even with the kinks it's still stupid fast and the acceleration is :D:D

I finally put my new (to me) wheels on last week. They're 19x10 Work Meister with 275/30 19 Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta tires.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b382/mr_rictus/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/EE580CAB-77A1-495F-8CD0-A873EFEC1770_zpsa89h99uv.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/mr_rictus/media/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/EE580CAB-77A1-495F-8CD0-A873EFEC1770_zpsa89h99uv.jpg.html)

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The car needs paint, obviously. :P

Hey man, I just picked up a set of Vogtland's for my S6 and I have some 19's I'm going to throw on there. I'm trying to minimize the trial and error of getting it perfect....would you mind telling me what your FTG is? =D

[Mr. Rictus]

I have no idea. I've never measured it. I guess I'm just good at eyeballing it? [:D][:D]

I can take a look this afternoon.

[Mr. Rictus]

Two pics. from this weekend at First Class Fitment

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b382/mr_rictus/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/BB81FD0A-C599-41AB-A8E4-FD981DAE6A2D_zpsvxngxk0m.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/mr_rictus/media/C5%20S6%20build%20pt%201/BB81FD0A-C599-41AB-A8E4-FD981DAE6A2D_zpsvxngxk0m.jpg.html)

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[twizz]

*drool*

[NuGGet_PuFFer]

Are your fenders/quarter panels rolled/pulled at all?

[Mr. Rictus]

Very slight roll in the front, rear is stock.

[NuGGet_PuFFer]

Very slight roll in the front, rear is stock.

Who rolled them? Which technique? From what I understand, the aluminum fenders on the 4.2 are very finicky when it comes to rolling/pulling, apparently they crack easily due to the delicate aluminum. I've heard of some guys using a dremel and cutting slits all along the fender lip an inch apart and folding/rolling them in.

[Mr. Rictus]

Who rolled them? Which technique? From what I understand, the aluminum fenders on the 4.2 are very finicky when it comes to rolling/pulling, apparently they crack easily due to the delicate aluminum. I've heard of some guys using a dremel and cutting slits all along the fender lip an inch apart and folding/rolling them in.

Well... my buddy and I used a jack handle with tape and a magazine around it. It wasn't a very careful venture and they're not cracked or anything. We didn't go nuts, just bent the inside lip up so the tire doesn't always hit it under suspension compression.

[NuGGet_PuFFer]

Well... my buddy and I used a jack handle with tape and a magazine around it. It wasn't a very careful venture and they're not cracked or anything. We didn't go nuts, just bent the inside lip up so the tire doesn't always hit it under suspension compression.

Gotcha.

[Mr. Rictus]

I finally got my head out of my ass and got the car to pass inspection! I kept clearing codes, not knowing that doing so reset readiness. Duh.

Also, I think we figured out what causes my idle to bounce like crazy, even after fixing a couple of vac leaks. The harness that came with the car is a shitshow and it will be replaced hopefully this weekend.

[JTown77]

Injectors, Fuel pressure regulator, fuel pump, MAF,,,,

[Mr. Rictus]

What about those parts? Injectors and MAF were new with the EPL fueling, FPR was new, and the fuel pump was a new Bosch 040 unit. Just because I didn't list every little thing we did doesn't mean we weren't thorough. [:p]

We spent last Saturday diagnosing the motor, and checked everything. After doing all that via VCDS and using other methods, we started looking at the harness and found some plugs that were shot with wire sheaths cracked open and touching. I should have bought a new harness to begin with, but I didn't.

[JTown77]

The decade old wiring harness in these cars are as fragile as my dreams of having fast station wagon for under 20k.

[Racin2redline]

The decade old wiring harness in these cars are as fragile as my dreams of having fast station wagon for under 20k.
:( truth. I'm approaching that with what I have into my allroad .. and it's only ko4s.. and not very fast...


do you have any abs codes, possibly brake switch clutch switch like a load issue.

tried unplugging the themaf iguess


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[Mr. Rictus]

Wow. I've been slacking on this thread and car for a long time!

Update: I picked up Supertech +1 single groove keeper Intake and Exhaust Valves, Supertech spring and retainer kit and ARP headstuds to have my 2.8L heads built. I will also be buying a built 3.0L block with AMD pistons, Pauter rods, and ARP main studs. The block has 15k trouble-free miles on it.

Once I get off my lazy butt and take apart my 2.8 heads I'll bring them to the machinist and get this ball rolling.

Reading between the lines: I'm giving up on the 2.7T that's currently in the car. There's something up with it that I don't care to figure out since I have access to the parts I listed above.

[mike@ngp_racing]

Hi Nicholas

[catriple]

Fun to read. I'm swapping a 2002 s6 with a built 605 motor. (BEL)

Pumped for more widebody tial cars

[Xplycko]

770's worked 2.8 heads rods and meth equal 580wheel epl has done several
2.8 heads bolt onto the 2.7? And there better or just bigger? Sorry for the slight derail.

[Mr. Rictus]

Hello, Michael.

The widebody cars deserve to go fast for "cheap" too! I very much love the swap, and it's not too terrible to get done.

Yeah, the 2.8L heads bolt to the 2.7L block. They've got bigger ports and more flow. It is advised to at least swap out the exhaust valves for the 2.7 versions, since the 2.7 versions are made to handle boost.