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jlaw
09-12-2013, 03:58 PM
Hi all, looking at leasing a 2014 S4 Premium Plus and was hoping for some feedback on the numbers the dealer is giving me:

MSRP: $58,945
Invoice: $55,377.25 (I verified this figure against the known invoice prices and it matches, but also includes not only the $895 destination fee which I know is unavoidable, but a $195 prep/inspection fee and a $290 "FL Gulf Coast DAG" fee - not sure what those are or if they are standard)
Dealer profit: $500
Shipping (they had to get the car from another dealer across the state): $450
"PDI and detail" fee: $450
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Sale price: $56,777

Plus:
Acquisition fee $695
Audicare $880

Less:
Conquest bonus cash $1,000

So with the acquisition fee and Audicare rolled in, I get:
Total adjusted cap cost: $57,352.25 (my calculation) $57,742.59 (dealer calculation?)

42mo lease / 12k mi / 54% residual (with Audicare) / .00108 MF

Base payment: $713.68
Tax @ 7%: $49.96
Total monthly payment: $763.64

Due at signing:
First month’s payment of $763.64
State license fees $250
Rental surcharge $60
Tire & Battery fees $6.50
Dealer Service Charge $697.50
Cash Cap Red. Tax $76.47
Tax on Florida fees $53.48
Cash to cap reduction $92.41
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Total due at signing: $2,000.00

What do you guys think of these numbers? The negotiated sale price of invoice plus $500 seems reasonable to me from what I’ve seen, although I don’t know what those extra things on the invoice price are. The shipping I don’t know if I can avoid since they went out of their way to get this particular car for me. The two things that really jump out at me are the $450 “PDI and detail” fee and the $697.50 “Dealer Service Charge”. Also, I can’t figure out how the dealer is getting their cap cost with the numbers above.

Here are three screen captures from my sales guy’s computer that he sent me that have most of the above laid out in Audi's software:
http://i.imgur.com/iHVcqnQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/aXxhjyy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LnoGWpm.jpg

Any and all feedback will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Creatre
09-12-2013, 04:04 PM
Money factor and residual look OK.

But otherwise not good. They need to drop all those fees. They are penny nickel diming you. Audicare, shipment, and pdi/detail should be all be covered with good negotiation. You should be paying about a $1000 upfront, they are penny nickle diming you there too. If they don't cover it, then walk. If it's already being shipped, then email all the dealers around and see who will do it.

Madbusy168
09-12-2013, 07:12 PM
Yeah, I think they are Penny and Nickeling you to death too, theres a $195 prep fee, then another $450 Pdi fee? Pdi means Pre delivery inspection . Your paying a Fl Dag fee but the car is from another state that you are now paying $450 addtl for delivery,,, Hmmm sounds like they are really really charging you up the ass with all these stupid fees. When I wanted to buy my Audi, I checked the inventory of all the Audi Dealerships within 40 miles of my house and tried looking for exactly what I wanted. After having no luck finding what I wanted, I went to the biggest Audi Dealership with the most sister stores to test drive and intentionally wasted ALOT of the salesman's time. haha,, he didnt want to waste his time afterwards and got really aggressive on both the number of the car and locating the car that I wanted, he checked all incoming inventory, whats at the dock to be delivered, whats even at Germany waiting to be enroute to the USA. Wasted more of his time and effort, lol Now he really needed a sales, After 3 days of negotiating, finally got the car at DEAD cost, they showed me the original invoice of the car from Volkswagen America!! and they had to do a dealer trade with a dealership that was 80 miles away and delivered it here for free! My Audi stickered for $58,347 and with conquest rebate of $1000 cause of a Lexus in the household, I got the car for $53,347.

FLASHMSTRC
09-29-2013, 05:52 PM
Yeah, I think they are Penny and Nickeling you to death too, theres a $195 prep fee, then another $450 Pdi fee? Pdi means Pre delivery inspection . Your paying a Fl Dag fee but the car is from another state that you are now paying $450 addtl for delivery,,, Hmmm sounds like they are really really charging you up the ass with all these stupid fees. When I wanted to buy my Audi, I checked the inventory of all the Audi Dealerships within 40 miles of my house and tried looking for exactly what I wanted. After having no luck finding what I wanted, I went to the biggest Audi Dealership with the most sister stores to test drive and intentionally wasted ALOT of the salesman's time. haha,, he didnt want to waste his time afterwards and got really aggressive on both the number of the car and locating the car that I wanted, he checked all incoming inventory, whats at the dock to be delivered, whats even at Germany waiting to be enroute to the USA. Wasted more of his time and effort, lol Now he really needed a sales, After 3 days of negotiating, finally got the car at DEAD cost, they showed me the original invoice of the car from Volkswagen America!! and they had to do a dealer trade with a dealership that was 80 miles away and delivered it here for free! My Audi stickered for $58,347 and with conquest rebate of $1000 cause of a Lexus in the household, I got the car for $53,347.

What was your total due at signing? Monthly payment? How many miles per year?