Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT

[BingBangBoom]

I'm thinking of adding a Jeep GC SRT 2014, to my garage. Just thought I would see if anyone on here has one or has driven one and has any comments. Good bad? Bottom line from what I can tell great bang for the buck. I will get out and drive one when I have a chance but I always like hearing comments first gives some things to think about that I may have not considered on a test drive.

Note they have changed it a fair bit since the previous GC SRT8, although the engine is the same the tranny is brand new (8 spd) and apparently much better than in the older ones. Also it is now and SRT no more 8 in he name for better or worse lol.

Thanks in advance.

[Jones2012s4]

I'm thinking of adding a Jeep GC SRT 2014, to my garage. Just thought I would see if anyone on here has one or has driven one and has any comments. Good bad? Bottom line from what I can tell great bang for the buck. I will get out and drive one when I have a chance but I always like hearing comments first gives some things to think about that I may have not considered on a test drive.

Note they have changed it a fair bit since the previous GC SRT8, although the engine is the same the tranny is brand new (8 spd) and apparently much better than in the older ones. Also it is now and SRT no more 8 in he name for better or worse lol.

Thanks in advance.


The transmission is a ZF sourced transmission. I think they look amazing, inside has come a long way. Test it out.

[man n black]

Top Gear, the magazine (not the show) had a long term test of the 2012-2013 model and had nothing but good things to say about it. Said they were sad to see it go back, but replaced it with a CTS-V wagon that has a manual transmission......

Great purchase. You can learn more about these @ JeepGarage.com

Ch

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[jbjones85]

I have also considered picking one up and I would check out jeepgarage as mentioned above. Overall the reviews have been very positive but there have been some minor issues with the new uconnect system but a lot of that has/is being addressed with software updates. Awesome looking vehicle though.

[Csuda]

No trailer hitch option due to center exhaust, only downside

[Alipor]

No trailer hitch option due to center exhaust, only downside
That was the first Gen SRT8 this one has them on either side of the bumper. No more center exhaust. IIRC they can haul 8k lbs

[s4ve]

I test drove one and it was a FANTASTIC SUV, if you can deal with 11 or so MPG I don't have a bad thing to say about it. Since it was for my wife, we opted for a Altitude edition (murdered out GC) and she couldn't be happier!

[brbarrett]

I was actually looking at one instead of the s4. They are incredible in a straight line, but in pretty much anything that size it shows it's weight in a turn. The only other thing is the build quality. There is a huge difference between the materials and quality of production between Audi and Jeep. Plus I feel the price to be a little absurd. Might as well consider a Cayenne as well.

Other then that it's on fast grocery getter that you can easily put the kids and dogs in the back with no worries.

[TuanTime]

I like it, it's really nice but I probably wouldn't buy one for that price. It's definitely fast in a straight line though. I personally don't care as much about straight line performance because in daily driving you hardly ever get to use its full potential. I always smile a little when I take a turn faster than I should in the s4 though. An suv to me is more of a family car that doesn't need to go super fast, I'd rather have slightly better Mpgs. If its speed and luxury I also consider the cayenne a nice blend of both.

[westwest888]

It is a nice looking ride. Nice brakes and headlights. Like the Stingray to the 911, the SRT Cherokee comes in at half the price of a Cayenne GTS or Turbo.

[b6onboost]

I agree.


I test drove one and it was a FANTASTIC SUV, if you can deal with 11 or so MPG I don't have a bad thing to say about it.

Not too sure about that. The new Jeep GCs use nappa leather, have stitched leather covered dash, they're pretty nice. Plastic quality is a little below that of an Audi, but its not a huge difference. Plus Jeep has made vast improvments over recent years, whereas many people have cited Audi for going a little cheaper than some of their previous models.


The only other thing is the build quality. There is a huge difference between the materials and quality of production between Audi and Jeep.

[mrmomo313]

Personally love the new ones. My buddy's dad is the CEO of Jeep and has a supercharged one, it HAULS ASS! The interior is great (much better than the previous gen), and I think its a great looking SUV. At the end of the day though X5M>all uber fast SUVs, but I am biased haha.

[100Daily]

I am surprised by all the positive SRT remarks by those that value european engineered cars, but I guess its hard to repress the "its got a hemi" state of mind. Everyone has their own taste, but this car has been a pet peeve of mine since it was released. Here is my personal opinion on why...

Its too heavy, its too high off the ground, and it has too much suspension travel to brake or handle properly. And with 20in rims and being lowered you can't do any sort of actual off-roading worth a damn. What good is a jeep you can't take off road, but as a trade off is "sporty" but actually sucks at being sporty?

Basically the ONLY thing its actually GOOD at is straight line acceleration. WOW! A knuckle draggers dream come true [rolleyes] I guess if straight line is your favorite thing, and you don't mind it being ruined by tons of weight... Good choice!

Finally, around Colorado the SRT drivers are the good old boy rednecks who can't drive for shit, but won't pass up an opportunity to just stomp on the gas and be douchey. The older SRT Jeeps are the illegal immigrant/joe 6-packs vehicle of choice. The SRT seems to really appeal to those types, but maybe Canada is different...

I personally find them to be an ill conceived design from the start that tries to be all things to all people, but ends up falling far short in almost every way. They do have nice interior but besides that its the quintessential stupid american vehicle IMO but its "got a hemi" so it sells.. barf.

No offense if the SRT is your thing. Different strokes for different folks.

[s4ve]

I am surprised by all the positive SRT remarks by those that value european engineered cars, but I guess its hard to repress the "its got a hemi" state of mind. Everyone has their own taste, but this car has been a pet peeve of mine since it was released. Here is my personal opinion on why...

Its too heavy, its too high off the ground, and it has too much suspension travel to brake or handle properly. And with 20in rims and being lowered you can't do any sort of actual off-roading worth a damn. What good is a jeep you can't take off road, but as a trade off is "sporty" but actually sucks at being sporty?

Basically the ONLY thing its actually GOOD at is straight line acceleration. WOW! A knuckle draggers dream come true [rolleyes] I guess if straight line is your favorite thing, and you don't mind it being ruined by tons of weight... Good choice!

Finally, around Colorado the SRT drivers are the good old boy rednecks who can't drive for shit, but won't pass up an opportunity to just stomp on the gas and be douchey. The older SRT Jeeps are the illegal immigrant/joe 6-packs vehicle of choice. The SRT seems to really appeal to those types, but maybe Canada is different...

I personally find them to be an ill conceived design from the start that tries to be all things to all people, but ends up falling far short in almost every way. They do have nice interior but besides that its the quintessential stupid american vehicle IMO but its "got a hemi" so it sells.. barf.

No offense if the SRT is your thing. Different strokes for different folks.

don't agree with a word you said, but hey -- it's the internet and people disagree. The new Jeeps FYI are essentially Mercedes ML's... for example, my wife's tranny was built in Germany. They aren't the Jeeps you are used to and are a fantastic SUV. I'd choose an SRT8 over any other German SUV on the market, hands down.

[gottaBdope]

No trailer hitch option due to center exhaust, only downside

Thanks all I could add too. I wouldn't be surprised if someone could fab one up though, but I've never been under one. Good luck!

[mrmomo313]

If driving dynamics are what you are after and you would consider buying CPO I'd recommend the X5/6M. I agree with what 100daily is saying in terms of handling because that is the weakpoint of the Jeep (though he may be a little more critical of the SRT than it deserves lol). Throw a tune, exhaust and DP's on the M and it'll beat or be as fast as any stg 2 s4 both on and off the track..

[mrmomo313]

I'd choose an SRT8 over any other German SUV on the market, hands down.

Well the SRT8 is the weakest link of all the fast SUVS... price is the limiting factor though. There are rumors of SRT offering a supercharged option (which will bring the price up to what the germans offer) in the future but until then it is the little school boy of the bunch.

[100Daily]

I agree with what 100daily is saying in terms of handling because that is the weakpoint of the Jeep (though he may be a little more critical of the SRT than it deserves lol).

Yeah, I went into rant mode. They are nice in certain ways.

[b6onboost]

Most of your rant was basically just listing various negative stereotypes that you believe are associated with Jeep SRT drivers.

I think the reason people are generally favoring the Jeep in this forum is because they are being objective.


Yeah, I went into rant mode. They are nice in certain ways.

[AKPS4]

The SRT is a great option for those who must have an SUV and want something relatively quick when the family is not in the vehicle. It's not for offroading it's for the enthusiast with a family that can't have a fast car and an SUV so settles with this.

That's my opinion.

[Mops@Nemesis]

Good truck for sure but no way I am paying that for a Jeep. The build quality and materials in regards to Jeep are shit. SHIT! I am really OCD about this and always poke around on the interior and exteriors. It's sad. I really feel for those paying these ridiculous prices for the 4-door wranglers. I took one out for pics a few weeks ago. Everything about it was terrible. So terrible I laughed most of the time I drove it.

[IanVr6]

Well, I bought one 6 weeks ago and is now my S4's little or should I say big brother.

I have no regrets. The LEDs and brembo brakes are amazing and the interior is nice. The ride is comfortable and I have lots of power when needed. It's not for everyone, but it's much cheaper than a Cayenne, X5M or land Rover. I get 17-18 MPG average. It's definitely a head turner with the black chrome rims with the big red calipers.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/05/etu4y7a5.jpg

[vdubjetta02]

Nice, I have the Gen 1 SRT8 and I sold my S4 shortly after buying it because I enjoyed the Jeep more.

[jlaudio]

I wouldn't touch one with a 10 foot pole, and that is coming from someone who worked for Dodge and Chrysler. Quality control from Dodge/Jeep/Chrysler is awful and the technology that is put into their cars is generally 2-5 years behind where the rest of the industry is but is parroted as "big improvements" or "revolutionary"

I guess you get what you pay for at the end of the day though. Only american car/Suv i would buy is a Ford

[b6onboost]

You can't compare a top of the line Jeep Grand Cherokee to a Wrangler. That's be like saying an S7 is shit because the A3 you drove felt cheap.


The build quality and materials in regards to Jeep are shit. SHIT! I am really OCD about this and always poke around on the interior and exteriors. It's sad. I really feel for those paying these ridiculous prices for the 4-door wranglers. I took one out for pics a few weeks ago. Everything about it was terrible. So terrible I laughed most of the time I drove it.

[GQ//S4]

I like them, but I have a thing against "sporty" Suv's if you live anywhere that sees weather (if its going to be your winter type car). Personally, if I were in your shoes, I would look at my s4 as the "quick" and "handling" car and get a fully loaded GC Overland w/ the Air Suspension. Utility and offroad capability in one, fun driver in the other car.

[The_Transporter]

Yeah, I went into rant mode. They are nice in certain ways.

No worries, forums are here for opinions and discussion.

I do like the SRT8 Jeep. however...

I think if I moved somewhere with a serious onslaught of cruel winter, I'd go for a Touareg Tdi with an aggressive ECU tune.(not sure they're available in the U.S. yet for the newer gens)
I rode in my buddy's Tdi and was really impressed with the interior, handling and TORQUE.

[Mops@Nemesis]

You can't compare a top of the line Jeep Grand Cherokee to a Wrangler. That's be like saying an S7 is shit because the A3 you drove felt cheap.

Seriously? I can certainly get a feel for build and materials used in a lesser model. Just as the entry $14k wrangler will let me know the $40k wrangler I drove will be just as shitty, but dressed up with more shitty and likely shiny materials. Throwing a big motor, BBK, nice wheels, diff bumper covers etc on a shitty truck does not make it a nice truck. I have no respect for any Chrylser product. They are so cheaply done and wear so quickly. I had a previous gen GC dd and sold it within 4 months. You can look at/ride in even 2-4 year old Chrylser products see/feel/hear issues you should not see. When you really clean cars properly, you see things that not even the owners would ever see. The SRT GC is cool for sure, and good at what it was designed for, but for reasons stated, I could never throw my money at any Chrysler product. I know I am not alone by any means. Hell, my 2005 Subi is more solid than that new $40k Wrangler. The quality levels flow all the way up.

[b6onboost]

I've personally owned both Audis and Jeeps, and my family has owned many of them as well. That is where my opinion is coming from.

You can't confuse a purposefully spartan interior of a Wrangler for being inferior quality. Sure it's plastics are harder, there is no luxury, its purpose built. I owned a Wrangler for 7 years, nothing EVER broke on it, period. Build quality...awesome. Luxury...zero. I've driven our current gen Grand Cherokee on several long trips. Its materials are nothing like a Wrangler, its far superior and a much nicer vehicle. Its 2 years now old by the way and drives like new, no issues that I shouldn't "see/hear/feel". It has had zero problems actually. My 2 month old B8.5 has already had a warranty claim. That didn't suprise me because previous Audis I've owned have taught me while they are seemingly high quality, well built cars, they experience random premature part failures.

This forum is overly bias against anything not euro, especially anything American, and people just make blanket statements based on little true ownership experience.

I respect your opinion and the experience its based on, but I don't think that's enough to condemn an entire brand.


Seriously? I can certainly get a feel for build and materials used in a lesser model. Just as the entry $14k wrangler will let me know the $40k wrangler I drove will be just as shitty, but dressed up with more shitty and likely shiny materials. Throwing a big motor, BBK, nice wheels, diff bumper covers etc on a shitty truck does not make it a nice truck. I have no respect for any Chrylser product. They are so cheaply done and wear so quickly. I had a previous gen GC dd and sold it within 4 months. You can look at/ride in even 2-4 year old Chrylser products see/feel/hear issues you should not see. When you really clean cars properly, you see things that not even the owners would ever see. The SRT GC is cool for sure, and good at what it was designed for, but for reasons stated, I could never throw my money at any Chrysler product. I know I am not alone by any means. Hell, my 2005 Subi is more solid than that new $40k Wrangler. The quality levels flow all the way up.

[Mops@Nemesis]

I've personally owned both Audis and Jeeps, and my family has owned many of them as well. That is where my opinion is coming from.

You can't confuse a purposefully spartan interior of a Wrangler for being inferior quality. Sure it's plastics are harder, there is no luxury, its purpose built. I owned a Wrangler for 7 years, nothing EVER broke on it, period. Build quality...awesome. Luxury...zero. I've driven our current gen Grand Cherokee on several long trips. Its materials are nothing like a Wrangler, its far superior and a much nicer vehicle. Its 2 years now old by the way and drives like new, no issues that I shouldn't "see/hear/feel". It has had zero problems actually. My 2 month old B8.5 has already had a warranty claim. That didn't suprise me because previous Audis I've owned have taught me while they are seemingly high quality, well built cars, they experience random premature part failures.

This forum is overly bias against anything not euro, especially anything American, and people just make blanket statements based on little true ownership experience.

I respect your opinion and the experience its based on, but I don't think that's enough to condemn an entire brand.

I am glad you have had many great experiences with them. I know many hardcore Jeep owners/families. I've never been impressed, but that's not to say they work well for many others. In regard to the Wrangler, I was mostly referring to the motor (terrible) tranny, steering etc comparing it back to the brand as a whole. And I have felt the same about many other models. My Jeep left a horrible taste in my mouth which does not help. The taste cost me around $4k over several issues in only 3 months. Holy shit I hated that truck. Anyways, some say the same about Subi and I find them to be great cars.

Please do not put me under that blanket. I love many vehicles outside of the euro marketplace. More Asian makes, but some domestic as well. I am not an "if its not euro, its garbage" kinda guy. I do love and prefer them but am not that narrow. I also stated my opinion based off of owning, knowing other owners and time spent around the make. I gotta say though, that warngler really hurt my feelings. I felt I was driving an underpowered caravan. That Jeep needs the Hemi badly, a better tranny and some better steering componets for that price point.

All good here though. We can still be friends. I do not care if you like crappy trucks;) jk

[laakness]

Having just got one last week I'm going to throw out the SQ5 suggestion if sporty SUV is what you're looking at. You should go take one for a ride.

[s4buckeye]

the SRT Cherokee comes in at half the price of a Cayenne GTS or Turbo.

not even close to true, especially as to the GTS.

you can pay a little bit more for a brand new Cayenne S with the V8 that is .5 seconds slower 0-60 (maybe) and have a much, much better car all the way around than the Jeep.

[BingBangBoom]

Thanks to everyone who replied, espicailly those who actually had some insite to add, as opposed to just the usual stereotypes. And especially
IanVr6, who actually has one. I realize this vehical isnt for everyone, and the genral point about about monster power SUV's isnt lost on me, they are a little ridiculous, but hey, having a little ridiculous in your life is always fun! And here is the thing, I need the SUV, so why not have fast as hell if I can afford it.
Seriously thought I'm NOT trading the S4, i simply need to add something big enought for my 2 kids, my bikes, their bikes, my dog... and so on (unfortunately the SQ5 isn't anywhere nearly big enough, heck I sat in the back seat of one and it feels smaller than my S4). I also need/want 4 wheel drive, many snowny mountain pass's to go through. But I dont need a bunch of off roading gear.

As for the folks that suggested X5M or Caynne S or Turbo, are ayou kidding.... these arent comparable on price at all, even CPO. Right now there are a number of x5M's with 70,000km's on them selling for the same as the Jeep is new.... sorry but I cant justify all the maitanence that BMW is going ot need when I have four years of trouble free, or at least cost free driving with the Jeep.

[BingBangBoom]

not even close to true, especially as to the GTS.

you can pay a little bit more for a brand new Cayenne S with the V8 that is .5 seconds slower 0-60 (maybe) and have a much, much better car all the way around than the Jeep.

On paper yes, in practicallity no! If you want your Caynne S to have a steering wheel and seat's, well that will be another $20,000, spec out a CT on their website to the same level as the GC, ytou are going to be 30-40 grand more (Canadian prices)

As for the turbo, no options $125,000 with a few reasonable options it seasily going to run you 140,000, SRT can be had fully loaded right around 70,000, that looks like half to me...... again these are Canadian prices straight from their websites.

[thebc]

I considered the Jeep when I was car shopping for my S4. Test drove one and was impressed, wow, jeep's come a long way. Then I started looking as used X5Ms, and my jaw drapped, just better in every single way. Eventually, I ended up with the S4. The maintenance on the X5M did scare me a way a bit, even a CPO.

You can't argue with the fact, that at the end of the the Jeep is still just a Jeep. No matter what engine you cram in it, or what interior pieces you decide to wrap in leather. The BMW was better in every single way (the Cayennes didn't appeal to me at all, waaaaay overpriced for what you got), but I wouldn't be able to sleep at night worrying about potential issues. I will admit, the new GCs have come a long way, but that's still not far enough...for 70k...

[IanVr6]

Thanks to everyone who replied, espicailly those who actually had some insite to add, as opposed to just the usual stereotypes. And especially
IanVr6, who actually has one. I realize this vehical isnt for everyone, and the genral point about about monster power SUV's isnt lost on me, they are a little ridiculous, but hey, having a little ridiculous in your life is always fun! And here is the thing, I need the SUV, so why not have fast as hell if I can afford it.
Seriously thought I'm NOT trading the S4, i simply need to add something big enought for my 2 kids, my bikes, their bikes, my dog... and so on (unfortunately the SQ5 isn't anywhere nearly big enough, heck I sat in the back seat of one and it feels smaller than my S4). I also need/want 4 wheel drive, many snowny mountain pass's to go through. But I dont need a bunch of off roading gear.

As for the folks that suggested X5M or Caynne S or Turbo, are ayou kidding.... these arent comparable on price at all, even CPO. Right now there are a number of x5M's with 70,000km's on them selling for the same as the Jeep is new.... sorry but I cant justify all the maitanence that BMW is going ot need when I have four years of trouble free, or at least cost free driving with the Jeep.

I'm a big Audi fanboy and Euro enthusiast, but I was not willing to pay 100K or more for a luxury/performance SUV. I'm into Euro sports cars not Euro SUVs so I decided to go with an American SUV.

Looked around and there is not a American SUV as badass as a GC SRT, especially the 2014 with 8 gears, LEDs, AWD, new navigation system, new steering wheel, new digital instrument cluster and awesome looks. Read the reviews and decided to buy one. With the money I'm saving by buying this cheap ass American SUV, I can one day buy another Audi and have 3 cars.

[NOFEARCT]

unfortunately the SQ5 isn't anywhere nearly big enough... and I also need/want 4 wheel drive, many snowny mountain pass's to go through. But I dont need a bunch of off roading gear.


Does the SRT8 have true 4WD? I'm sure the Q5 would equal or best the jeep in the white stuff.

I had a V10TDI touareg, a Cayenne Turbo, then a Cayenne Turbo S, all purchased used and heavily modified. Touareg had literally zero issues even pushing 700+ lbs of torque, cayennes were not as reliable but when I was looking for a replacement I drove the second gen SRT8 with the 5 speed and I was woefully underwhelmed. Every time I let off the gas the damn Eco mode kicked in and the hemi roar vanished, the fuel efficiency increase that they claim to achieve of 10-15% doesn't nearly warrant the emasculation of driving something so wicked looking that only is running on 4 cylinders and sounds the part. On a more serious note it felt like a jeep, it didn't really feel all that special and all manners of performance seemed a bit pedestrian. The first gen jeep has serious balls, it's as fast or faster than the new one, they have the same power to weight ratios, and it just felt like they designed it to be a cayenne killer, new one targets Mercedes luxury it seems and it doesn't fare well in that regard either. I would buy a new diesel X5 or something before the SRT. Just my personal opinion, label me as you see fit.

[jauri]

i like the font of the digital speedo... [drive]. congrats on the new car.


Well, I bought one 6 weeks ago and is now my S4's little or should I say big brother.

I have no regrets. The LEDs and brembo brakes are amazing and the interior is nice. The ride is comfortable and I have lots of power when needed. It's not for everyone, but it's much cheaper than a Cayenne, X5M or land Rover. I get 17-18 MPG average. It's definitely a head turner with the black chrome rims with the big red calipers.

[BingBangBoom]

Does the SRT8 have true 4WD? I'm sure the Q5 would equal or best the jeep in the white stuff.


My comment on the SQ5 was only in regard to its size, not its AWD or snow capabilities.


I'm a big Audi fanboy and Euro enthusiast, but I was not willing to pay 100K or more for a luxury/performance SUV. I'm into Euro sports cars not Euro SUVs so I decided to go with an American SUV.

Looked around and there is not a American SUV as badass as a GC SRT, especially the 2014 with 8 gears, LEDs, AWD, new navigation system, new steering wheel, new digital instrument cluster and awesome looks. Read the reviews and decided to buy one. With the money I'm saving by buying this cheap ass American SUV, I can one day buy another Audi and have 3 cars.


You're on the exact same page as me, I love the euro's but I would argue the SRT looks more badass than anything else out there! I think I'm going to have to get one!

I alos love how everyones knocks Jeep, have you guys actually been inside a BMW lately, I love Beemers but their interiors haven't changed in 30 years and they are some of the least inspiring and saddest looking interiors I have ever seen! Seiously it's fortunate that their cars are so great everywhere else.

[esimp2k]

Seriously? I can certainly get a feel for build and materials used in a lesser model. Just as the entry $14k wrangler will let me know the $40k wrangler I drove will be just as shitty, but dressed up with more shitty and likely shiny materials. Throwing a big motor, BBK, nice wheels, diff bumper covers etc on a shitty truck does not make it a nice truck. I have no respect for any Chrylser product. They are so cheaply done and wear so quickly. I had a previous gen GC dd and sold it within 4 months. You can look at/ride in even 2-4 year old Chrylser products see/feel/hear issues you should not see. When you really clean cars properly, you see things that not even the owners would ever see. The SRT GC is cool for sure, and good at what it was designed for, but for reasons stated, I could never throw my money at any Chrysler product. I know I am not alone by any means. Hell, my 2005 Subi is more solid than that new $40k Wrangler. The quality levels flow all the way up.

Ummm have you driven an a3 recently? I have and I thought it was junk on almost every level. I would never buy one.

[TuanTime]

Just go for it, it sounds like you've made up your mind. As I said earlier I like them a lot. I just don't personally want a fast suv, I prefer to pay a little less for something that's just as luxurious or perhaps more. I don't think it's a bad choice to get the SRT, just not the choice for everyone. And that's why there are a million different cars out there. If not the whole world would all be driving Audi S4's.

[aaron1085]

Tempting...I guess I as well will have to drive one. The wife suggested I get a truck or SUV. She has a 13 GC and loves it (6 cylinder) but loaded. Just thinking the MPG is going to blow.

[Mops@Nemesis]

Mother Eff, that GC is $70k?! Lulz. I smell a good $20K profit for the dealer that gets anywhere near that for one.

[thebc]

Mother Eff, that GC is $70k?! Lulz. I smell a good $20K profit for the dealer that gets anywhere near that for one.

Yep, when I was shopping them I was looking at either a nicely optioned CPO'd 2009-2010 X5M in the 55-60k range or a brand new SRT for about 70k.

[northerns4]

Get the X5 /// M - modded the hell out of it..it's damn fast ...I did to go along with S4'shttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/05/yne2u4ap.jpg

[NOFEARCT]

Get the X5 /// M - modded the hell out of it..it's damn fast ...I did to go along with S4'shttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/05/yne2u4ap.jpg

Can I get first right of refusal?! Good god that's wicked. Makes me miss my suv's :(

[s4buckeye]

On paper yes, in practicallity no! If you want your Caynne S to have a steering wheel and seat's, well that will be another $20,000, spec out a CT on their website to the same level as the GC, ytou are going to be 30-40 grand more (Canadian prices)

As for the turbo, no options $125,000 with a few reasonable options it seasily going to run you 140,000, SRT can be had fully loaded right around 70,000, that looks like half to me...... again these are Canadian prices straight from their websites.

Again, not true. I can't speak to Canadian pricing or the difference, but I had a very well equipped 2011 Cayenne S for 3 years that was nowhere near the extra in options more than the base that you allege. It had everything and more than the SRT for $80k US (SRT is $70k loaded) and is a far better car. To say it is half on the GTS is not correct at all and to say it is half of a turbo is close to correct. you can buy a new turbo for far less than 125k with options all day long but it is 2x the car the SRT is.

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/searchresults.xhtml?endYear=2013&zip=94110&listingType=new&listingTypes=new&mmt=%5BPOR%5BCAYENNE%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&vehicleStyleCodes=SUVCROSS&modelCode1=CAYENNE&Log=0&makeCode1=POR&startYear=2013&numRecords=25&searchRadius=0&bodyStyleCodes=SUV&showcaseListingId=339474381&showcaseOwnerId=63782197&captureSearch=true&Log=0


As for the folks that suggested X5M or Caynne S or Turbo, are ayou kidding.... these arent comparable on price at all, even CPO. Right now there are a number of x5M's with 70,000km's on them selling for the same as the Jeep is new.... sorry but I cant justify all the maitanence that BMW is going ot need when I have four years of trouble free, or at least cost free driving with the Jeep.

No way is this the case in the US. Look on Autotrader at all of the CPOs out there on all of these models.

a loaded SRT for 70k vs. a Cayenne S with all kinds of options for 80k? You are kidding, right?

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/searchresults.xhtml?endYear=2013&zip=94110&listingType=new&listingTypes=new&mmt=%5BJEEP%5BJEEPGRAND%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&vehicleStyleCodes=SUVCROSS&modelCode1=JEEPGRAND&Log=0&makeCode1=JEEP&startYear=2013&numRecords=25&searchRadius=0&bodyStyleCodes=SUV&showcaseOwnerId=620968&captureSearch=true&Log=0

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/searchresults.xhtml?endYear=2013&zip=94110&listingType=certified&listingTypes=certified&mmt=%5BBMW%5BX5M%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&vehicleStyleCodes=SUVCROSS&modelCode1=X5M&Log=0&makeCode1=BMW&startYear=2010&numRecords=25&searchRadius=0&bodyStyleCodes=SUV&showcaseOwnerId=1050441&captureSearch=true&Log=0


Edit: Updated info. OP: Get what you want, but look at all the options first.

[BingBangBoom]

Again, not true. I can't speak to Canadian pricing or the difference, but I had a very well equipped 2011 Cayenne S for 3 years that was nowhere near the extra in options more than the base that you allege. It had everything and more than the SRT for $80k US (SRT is $70k loaded) and is a far better car. To say it is half on the GTS is not correct at all and to say it is half of a turbo is close to correct. you can buy a new turbo for far less than 125k with options all day long but it is 2x the car the SRT is.

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/searchresults.xhtml?endYear=2013&zip=94110&listingType=new&listingTypes=new&mmt=%5BPOR%5BCAYENNE%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&vehicleStyleCodes=SUVCROSS&modelCode1=CAYENNE&Log=0&makeCode1=POR&startYear=2013&numRecords=25&searchRadius=0&bodyStyleCodes=SUV&showcaseListingId=339474381&showcaseOwnerId=63782197&captureSearch=true&Log=0



No way is this the case in the US. Look on Autotrader at all of the CPOs out there on all of these models.

a loaded SRT for 70k vs. a Cayenne S with all kinds of options for 80k? You are kidding, right?

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/searchresults.xhtml?endYear=2013&zip=94110&listingType=new&listingTypes=new&mmt=%5BJEEP%5BJEEPGRAND%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&vehicleStyleCodes=SUVCROSS&modelCode1=JEEPGRAND&Log=0&makeCode1=JEEP&startYear=2013&numRecords=25&searchRadius=0&bodyStyleCodes=SUV&showcaseOwnerId=620968&captureSearch=true&Log=0

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/searchresults.xhtml?endYear=2013&zip=94110&listingType=certified&listingTypes=certified&mmt=%5BBMW%5BX5M%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&vehicleStyleCodes=SUVCROSS&modelCode1=X5M&Log=0&makeCode1=BMW&startYear=2010&numRecords=25&searchRadius=0&bodyStyleCodes=SUV&showcaseOwnerId=1050441&captureSearch=true&Log=0


Edit: Updated info. OP: Get what you want, but look at all the options first.

Trust me I have looked lots, you're numbers are way out to lunch for canada... but you keep on quoting US numbers... they are very helpful....

I like that that you said "I can't speak to Canadian pricing or the difference" and then you kept speaking for a long time..... why are you still talking...lol.......

[Amorphic]

Trust me I have looked lots, you're numbers are way out to lunch for canada... but you keep on quoting US numbers... they are very helpful....

I like that that you said "I can't speak to Canadian pricing or the difference" and then you kept speaking for a long time..... why are you still talking...lol.......

This is true. Every vehicle under the sun is way more expensive in Canada... when it comes to upper level vehicles, the price gap gets even crazier. Hell, a fully loaded A4 is more expensive in Canada than an S4.

[Madbusy168]

Well, I bought one 6 weeks ago and is now my S4's little or should I say big brother.

I have no regrets. The LEDs and brembo brakes are amazing and the interior is nice. The ride is comfortable and I have lots of power when needed. It's not for everyone, but it's much cheaper than a Cayenne, X5M or land Rover. I get 17-18 MPG average. It's definitely a head turner with the black chrome rims with the big red calipers.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/05/etu4y7a5.jpg
I'm sorry to bust your chops, but if you are getting 17-18mpg average in a srt GC, you are either A. driving downhill 90% of the time or B. Lying your ass off or maybe C. Have a broken mpg counter in your car already.. lol

[Madbusy168]

Tempting...I guess I as well will have to drive one. The wife suggested I get a truck or SUV. She has a 13 GC and loves it (6 cylinder) but loaded. Just thinking the MPG is going to blow.
According to IanVr6, they get 17-18mpg average... thats the same as my S4.

[NOFEARCT]

According to IanVr6, they get 17-18mpg average... thats the same as my S4.

Lol I wish the RS5 got 17/18 and its got 2 less liters of displacement and weighs 1500 lbs less haha maybe I'm doing it wrong(?)

[IanVr6]

I'm sorry to bust your chops, but if you are getting 17-18mpg average in a srt GC, you are either A. driving downhill 90% of the time or B. Lying your ass off or maybe C. Have a broken mpg counter in your car already.. lol

You busted your own chops.

It shows you haven't done any reading about the new SRTs MPG. There is something called the internet where you can find all kinds of info. Just sayin...

I drive 45 mins to work everyday so its mostly highway. Why would I lie. I'll take a picture of my MPG and post it when I get a chance. The new 8 speed gearbox helps.

[s4buckeye]

why are you still talking...lol.......

maybe because you are the person that spelled "sarcasm" as "sarcasim," alleged you were buying a 911 CS4 days ago but now are looking at a Jeep, you drive a Z4, actually posted the following sentence fragment that is headed to the spelling, mixed metaphor and grammar Hall of Fame:


Trust me I have looked lots, you're numbers are way out to lunch for canada... but you keep on quoting US numbers... they are very helpful....

...and mostly due to the fact that you apparently need the advice because you are looking at an SRT over a Cayenne or X5M.

SMH.

[Harpbrar]

Not trying to thread jack, but I'm stumped between 2013 x5m or a 2013 cayenne gts? Any suggestions

[Madbusy168]

Lol I wish the RS5 got 17/18 and its got 2 less liters of displacement and weighs 1500 lbs less haha maybe I'm doing it wrong(?)
If you do your research on audizine, you will see that most drivers of super heavy Trucks with big V8 drive 45 mins to work on the highway and most, if not all, are averaging 17-18mpg. You need to go get your tiny little Audi checked out at the dealership to see why your car is not getting as great of a gas mileage as a Srt Grand Cherokee!! Also, please help me make an appt also, cause my Sc V6 is only getting me 17-18 mpg average, with my car weighing way less, half the engine size, and German engineering, I should at least be getting 25-28mpg!! We need to let AoA about this very concerned topic situation!!

[s4buckeye]

Not trying to thread jack, but I'm stumped between 2013 x5m or a 2013 cayenne gts? Any suggestions

Turbo S > Turbo > X5M > GTS > S is pretty much it. Drive them both to see, but the X5M is really nice and you can't go wrong on either. If you were to spend the money on the GTS, I would spend a bit more at that point and get the Turbo.

This may help a little:

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2012-porsche-cayenne-turbo-page-3

[b6onboost]

If you drive the Jeep gently most of the time it gets decent mileage for an SUV. 8 speed, cylinder deactivation, ect. You can drive it around keeping up with traffic without ever going over 2000rpm, and as soon as you hit a given cruising speed it goes into Eco mode and shuts down 4cyl. Its still powerful enough to pass people in Eco mode too.

If you stomp on it all the time and only drive around town, yes you'll get like 10mpg.

[jfabes]

the srt is rated at 13/19....those that tuely commute, i.e. sitting in stop and go traffic, and think its going to get 17-18 are not crushing up their meth cubes sufficiently. I get 19-20 in the s4 and my drive is 45-50 minutes of highway parking lot for 22 miles. i rarely get up above 60 mph, and when i do, its for a mile or two, then back to a stop. the s4 does outstanding in this department for its performance (i'm stg 2+). I had a c63 as a loaner for a week that i was going to buy that is rated similar to the srt, and i got 13-14 on my same drive.

we test drove an srt GC (along with several other suv's) and bought an X5d instead. Its a step above the cheroke in handling and build quality. also, the turbo diesel actually feels faster because the torque comes on at much lower rpm and it doesn't have to be (nor can it be) revved high. fast forward to adding a tune to the diesel....and while its not quite as fast as the srt, its way more "car like" than it and gets 20-21 in the city and 25-26 on the highway on our long trips. plus, with the staggered 20's like in the pic above on the X5M, way more athletic looking :)

[Madbusy168]

the srt is rated at 13/19....those that tuely commute, i.e. sitting in stop and go traffic, and think its going to get 17-18 are not crushing up their meth cubes sufficiently. I get 19-20 in the s4 and my drive is 45-50 minutes of highway parking lot for 22 miles. i rarely get up above 60 mph, and when i do, its for a mile or two, then back to a stop. the s4 does outstanding in this department for its performance (i'm stg 2+). I had a c63 as a loaner for a week that i was going to buy that is rated similar to the srt, and i got 13-14 on my same drive.

we test drove an srt GC (along with several other suv's) and bought an X5d instead. Its a step above the cheroke in handling and build quality. also, the turbo diesel actually feels faster because the torque comes on at much lower rpm and it doesn't have to be (nor can it be) revved high. fast forward to adding a tune to the diesel....and while its not quite as fast as the srt, its way more "car like" than it and gets 20-21 in the city and 25-26 on the highway on our long trips. plus, with the staggered 20's like in the pic above on the X5M, way more athletic looking :)
You sound very Realistic about the Mpg, 13-14mpg is driving it like a normal human being with mixed highway and local driving. With a heavy right foot, I would say a true 9-10mpg sounds about right, but definitely not 17-18mpg Average. I myself love the Srt8 packages on the Mopars, I think they look kinda bad ass with the big wheels and more aggressive look and the raw power of the big V8. I myself dont care about reliability because I get a new car every year or two, so whatever I get would still be under warranty. I wanted to pick up a charger myself but the mpg really scares me away, and the resale value of these cars dont help either.

[man n black]

I will reiterate:
Top Gear Mag loved this SUV, said it is comparable in build quality and performance (including corners) to ANY other performance SUV regardless of price on sale today. These guys frequently bash American cars but this one they loved.

Jeep has gone way upmarket in it's materials and build quality starting in 2012-2013.

We came very close to buying a V8 GC Limited, but didn't like the ride quality of the air suspension (too soft) . The SRT was too "on road" hardcore for us, we didn't even look at that model. In the end bought an LR4 instead.


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[SE-Chris]

Friend of mine has owned a Jeep or two and I can tell you his switch to Audi sounded like the best decision he's made in a while. And i'm pretty sure he'll never go back.

[s4buckeye]

I will reiterate:
Top Gear Mag loved this SUV, said it is comparable in build quality and performance (including corners) to ANY other performance SUV regardless of price on sale today. These guys frequently bash American cars but this one they loved.

Jeep has gone way upmarket in it's materials and build quality starting in 2012-2013.

We came very close to buying a V8 GC Limited, but didn't like the ride quality of the air suspension (too soft) . The SRT was too "on road" hardcore for us, we didn't even look at that model. In the end bought an LR4 instead.


I drove a MY 2013, don't believe the hype. Ugh.

[IanVr6]

Got 19 mpg today.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/07/zuzuga7e.jpg

[jauri]

i'll say again, but thats such a cool screen! [drool]


Got 19 mpg today.

[MerkurRS]

Sorry to bust balls, but shouldn't this be in another discussion thread, not B8 S4???[confused]

[BingBangBoom]

maybe because you are the person that spelled "sarcasm" as "sarcasim," alleged you were buying a 911 CS4 days ago but now are looking at a Jeep, you drive a Z4, actually posted the following sentence fragment that is headed to the spelling, mixed metaphor and grammar Hall of Fame:



...and mostly due to the fact that you apparently need the advice because you are looking at an SRT over a Cayenne or X5M.

SMH.


and .........he's still talking........

I guess because I plan to buy a 911 next spring I cant buy a suv this winter...........ok thanks for letting me know.

[s4buckeye]

Wow. The ellipsis factory appears to be working double shifts today.

It must be nice to be dumb with impunity.

[Mops@Nemesis]

Sorry to bust balls, but shouldn't this be in another discussion thread, not B8 S4???[confused]

No shit. This thread is so annoying, but at the same time, I cannot help but look[rolleyes] We must derail;)

And those gauges are cheesy IMO. Bad.

[BingBangBoom]

So I went and test drove a used ML63 AMG, a used BMW X5M and the GC SRT, all about the same price but lots of km's on the BMW and Merc. So here is my quick summary, the Merc was without a doubt the fastest feeling of the 3, which is funny because all the reviews I have read show the Merc being slower off the line than the other 2, but the kick in your pants feel is simply faster. That being said i was not as impressed with it over all, can't really put a finger on it but somehow all round just dint love it.

Now this is where it gets tough, the BMW was great, it was fast, rides great, and most of the time felt like what I would assume a base X5 would feel like (in a good way), but then when you want to you can punch it and out comes a monster, well not really a monster, more like one of those monsters from Monsters Inc, you know, they call them monsters but we love them and they are really friendly. That is BMW. Now I can see the appeal of this, but I'm not sure it is really doing the SUV justice, I feel like if I'm getting all that engine I want to know its there all the time. I would say if the M is this friendly why not just get the X5 50. Its plenty fast, still has 400 hp and saves you a fair bit of coin.

Ok so now the GC, I felt like this was somewhere between the Merc and the BMW, it was loud and furious and had a great rumble like the Merc, and still felt very fast and a little raw, which is great. But it was amazingly upscale inside and the fit and finish I would argue is better than the BMW (not the Merc). All the people on here who are saying jeep shouldn't be charging 70 grand should probably go and sit in a 2014 GC before they judge, don't base your info on past experiences. For those of you old enough to remember when Honda and Toyota where the poor crappy cars in America, now they are Acura and Lexus, companies can change. Anyway, back to the SRT, I think I like it better than the X5, it just has more character. Which I think is part of the reason anyone would be ridiculous enough to buy a SUV with 500ish hp. Now if it was straight up a new X5M vs new SRT, yeah maybe I would leant to the M, but here is the thing I should be able to get the SRT for around $68,000 fully loaded, for the M I'll be paying $72,000 (just for S4Buckeye, I will remind you these are Canadian numbers, so please relax) and it has ~50,000 km's on it, very little warranty left, and you know its going to be digging into that wallet when that warranty ends.
Just as a guide here in canada a new X5M is pretty much $120,000 so when you compare the SRT for ~70,000, its a no brainer, the X5 isn't close to being worth $50,000 more.

Looks like I'm going to order the SRT.

[BingBangBoom]

Sorry to bust balls, but shouldn't this be in another discussion thread, not B8 S4???[confused]

Yeah my bad, but since I have an S4, I wanted to get the opinion of other S4 drivers, and see if they could love the American monster.

[Mops@Nemesis]

http://youtu.be/KYRcAKYYEG4

[s4buckeye]

No Cayenne test drive. Fail.

Enjoy that Jeep.

[Mops@Nemesis]

Westwest, imo.


http://youtu.be/dZQwgO8upJ0

[s4buckeye]

Moar candles.

[Mops@Nemesis]

Moar candles.


http://youtu.be/SIaFtAKnqBU

[Madbusy168]

Got 19 mpg today.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/07/zuzuga7e.jpg

Yeah, and I averaged over 28mpg all local driving not even highway, if I did all highway I would have gotten over 40mpg easily!!
http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m575/madbusy168/DSC00484_zps95caf9e5.jpg (http://s1132.photobucket.com/user/madbusy168/media/DSC00484_zps95caf9e5.jpg.html)

[NOFEARCT]

http://youtu.be/KYRcAKYYEG4

Omfg yes!

[MerkurRS]

Someone please stop/ move this thread..........

Oh the inhumanity....
http://www.history.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/hindenburg-wide.jpg

[IanVr6]

Agree. Let's lock it down. Too many kids in here....

[Mops@Nemesis]

Agree. Let's lock it down. Too many kids in here....

Awwwwwww, sorry you can't have any fun. I feel bad for you. And damn right I act like a kid on the forum. It's the only place in my life it's ok to do so;)


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[s4buckeye]

NWNC ftw.

[Madbusy168]

Awwwwwww, sorry you can't have any fun. I feel bad for you. And damn right I act like a kid on the forum. It's the only place in my life it's ok to do so;)


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+1 IanVr6 feeling sore now cause I posted my S4 averaging 28mpg on local, notice the stupid dumb speed my gauge is reading? lol Im pretty sure his fuel efficient Srt GC was doing 70mph and hour on the highway averaging 19mpg.. Im only busting his chops cause I want REALISTIC mpg, not dumbshit mpg like I did with my S4...

[Madbusy168]

No Cayenne test drive. Fail.

Enjoy that Jeep.

Dont even bother, OP has his mind set already, he's just wasting everyones time here asking for "opinions" I would never pay $50k for a jeep, $70k? you nuts and outta your mind. I totally agree with you, I dont know how much these SRT sticker for, not gonna bother wasting my time doing my research, but like you say, I rather pay a tad more for a Cayenne or a X5, so much more "refined" Im amazed that OP has a S4, with his mentality, he should have gotten a srt8 charger or whats the other boats name? challenger? its so much more bang for the buck over the S4. This whole post made me feel like I was in a supermarket, the X5, ML, Cayenne ( Filet Mignon) is great but the Srt GC (Sirloin Steak) is beef also and taste like beef but way better bang for the buck! Wait till he sees the resale value on his top notch SRT

[s4buckeye]

+1 IanVr6 feeling sore now cause I posted my S4 averaging 28mpg on local, notice the stupid dumb speed my gauge is reading? lol Im pretty sure his fuel efficient Srt GC was doing 70mph and hour on the highway averaging 19mpg.. Im only busting his chops cause I want REALISTIC mpg, not dumbshit mpg like I did with my S4...

I agree. At what the SRT is rated for on mpg at the average (13/19) with a 6.4 liter engine, there is no way you can average 19 mpg unless you live on the highway, your car never goes under 7th and 8th gear and you drive it is such a way that you have defeated the purpose of having it.

The AMG has a 6.2 liter engine, 7 speed and averages 14/20 mpg. On the highway if you barely touch the gas you CAN get 20 mpg, but not for very long. In a mix of driving I average 15 mpg. 19 mpg is ridiculous.


Dont even bother, OP has his mind set already, he's just wasting everyones time here asking for "opinions" I would never pay $50k for a jeep, $70k? you nuts and outta your mind. I totally agree with you, I dont know how much these SRT sticker for, not gonna bother wasting my time doing my research, but like you say, I rather pay a tad more for a Cayenne or a X5, so much more "refined" Im amazed that OP has a S4, with his mentality, he should have gotten a srt8 charger or whats the other boats name? challenger? its so much more bang for the buck over the S4. This whole post made me feel like I was in a supermarket, the X5, ML, Cayenne ( Filet Mignon) is great but the Srt GC (Sirloin Steak) is beef also and taste like beef but way better bang for the buck! Wait till he sees the resale value on his top notch SRT

Yep.

[IanVr6]

Wow! I am not hurt, sad, mad or anything. LoL.

I have a modded S4 and love it. Waiting for stage 3 so I can love it even more. I decided to buy a SRT for DD and keep my S4 for the weekends.

I don't care if you like it or not. I never said it's better than the Cayenne, BMW or Merc. But I do think it's a good SUV.

I don't lose sleep about MPGs either. I really don't care about that when I buy my cars. It's really not an issue in my life right now.

I just came here to give the OP my opinion because I'm the only one who owns a S4 and a 2014 SRT in this forum. I am a Euro fanboy, but bashing the OP is not cool. You guys need to relax.

[Mops@Nemesis]

If I were anymore relaxed, I would not be breathing. Just playing around, buddy. If I were to ever be serious in a post, it would be clear.


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[S4 00 2.7]

Dont even bother, OP has his mind set already, he's just wasting everyones time here asking for "opinions" I would never pay $50k for a jeep, $70k? you nuts and outta your mind. I totally agree with you, I dont know how much these SRT sticker for, not gonna bother wasting my time doing my research, but like you say, I rather pay a tad more for a Cayenne or a X5, so much more "refined" Im amazed that OP has a S4, with his mentality, he should have gotten a srt8 charger or whats the other boats name? challenger? its so much more bang for the buck over the S4. This whole post made me feel like I was in a supermarket, the X5, ML, Cayenne ( Filet Mignon) is great but the Srt GC (Sirloin Steak) is beef also and taste like beef but way better bang for the buck! Wait till he sees the resale value on his top notch SRT

+1 on Cayenne or X5 for refinement

[100Daily]

+1 on Cayenne or X5 for refinement

+ 2

[Madbusy168]

Wow! I am not hurt, sad, mad or anything. LoL.

I have a modded S4 and love it. Waiting for stage 3 so I can love it even more. I decided to buy a SRT for DD and keep my S4 for the weekends.

I don't care if you like it or not. I never said it's better than the Cayenne, BMW or Merc. But I do think it's a good SUV.

I don't lose sleep about MPGs either. I really don't care about that when I buy my cars. It's really not an issue in my life right now.

I just came here to give the OP my opinion because I'm the only one who owns a S4 and a 2014 SRT in this forum. I am a Euro fanboy, but bashing the OP is not cool. You guys need to relax.
haha,, chillax bro, I personally just like to mess with ppl cause its the "Internet" nobody hating on your Srt just not liking how you are kinda missleading OP into thinking the Cherokee is gonna get 19mpg. Im pretty sure if you really really drive like Grandma, you Might get 17-19 mpg but like another member states, it really defeats the purpose of getting this truck.

[esimp2k]

Get the X5 /// M - modded the hell out of it..it's damn fast ...I did to go along with S4'shttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/05/yne2u4ap.jpg

Love it!

[IanVr6]

haha,, chillax bro, I personally just like to mess with ppl cause its the "Internet" nobody hating on your Srt just not liking how you are kinda missleading OP into thinking the Cherokee is gonna get 19mpg. Im pretty sure if you really really drive like Grandma, you Might get 17-19 mpg but like another member states, it really defeats the purpose of getting this truck.

Didn't you read my post??? I'm not misleading him. I stated previously that I drive 45 mins to work so its mostly highway. I do get 19 mpg. City its probably like 12 mpg.

I have no reason to mislead him. Just facts. The Euro SUVs probably have better finish, but the Jeep is not crap. I had the money to buy whatever I wanted. I needed a fast daily SUV beater car.

I should stop posting and feeding the trolls here.

[LINDW4LL]

I've always loved that ADV.1 X5. Looks so mean.

And to people who say "The Jeep interior blows", let me reiterate- the new interiors are really top notch. Certainly comparable to X5/Q7 interior.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/08/a5avevys.jpg

[Harpbrar]

There in no way close to x5/q7 interior way more plastic,and the fit is just terrible. That's like saying a fully g37s has the same quality as an s4. They are completely different leagues. At the end of the day you are better of buying a slightly used x5/cayenne instead of a brand new jeep. "Hey what do you drive?, a jeep!" Lol.

[LINDW4LL]

"Hey what do you drive?, a jeep!" Lol.

Oh, you're one of those people... More concerned with your image than the actual car.

I generally don't like American cars since they're usually trash. SRT is different though.

[s4buckeye]

Oh, you're one of those people... More concerned with your image than the actual car.

I generally don't like American cars since they're usually trash. SRT is different though.

It is not really different. I drove a 2013 and the interior, fit and finish was laughably bad. sorry, but it really was awful.

it is a Jeep and it is $70 grand. Reminded me of the CTS-V I drove that was brand new: great engine but the volume knob came off in my hand and the interior was so bad you wondered why you even thought of spending that much cash on the ride in the first place.

[jfabes]

Reminded me of the CTS-V I drove that was brand new: great engine but the volume knob came off in my hand and the interior was so bad you wondered why you even thought of spending that much cash on the ride in the first place.

right? but...I can top that. I drove 4 cts-v's before buying my s4. the first three were auto's with the shift buttons behind the steering wheel and the 4th was a 6 speed. while cruising on the highway, the salesman asked me what I thought about the manual and I said "its okay, the clutch is stiff with a long throw, but on the auto, I didn't like the location of the button shifters on the steering wheel, they were right here. wait! holy shi!t...this car has them" LMAO. it was at that point I learned that 09' cts-v's shared the same wheel whether auto or manual. um, wtf, over?

[s4buckeye]

right? but...I can top that. I drove 4 cts-v's before buying my s4. the first three were auto's with the shift buttons behind the steering wheel and the 4th was a 6 speed. while cruising on the highway, the salesman asked me what I thought about the manual and I said "its okay, the clutch is stiff with a long throw, but on the auto, I didn't like the location of the button shifters on the steering wheel, they were right here. wait! holy shi!t...this car has them" LMAO. it was at that point I learned that 09' cts-v's shared the same wheel whether auto or manual. um, wtf, over?

That is good stuff. I liked that car a lot and loved the engine and handling, but the interior was pretty bizarre. It wasn't the deal killer for me, but it was for my wife.

[jfabes]

That is good stuff. I liked that car a lot and loved the engine and handling, but the interior was pretty bizarre. It wasn't the deal killer for me, but it was for my wife.

completely agree. we are a "german car only" family and have been since about 2001 and my wife couldn't even remotely understand - nor tolerate - me looking at that car. she despised it. I respected it (still do) and actually enjoyed driving it, although the auto in that car and the exhaust hum reminded me of my z28 back in the 80's lol. I drove it back-to-back with the c63 (same dealer) and absolutely loved the c63. I almost bought one, had a deposit on a car in FL and the a-hole salesman sold it out from under me and then refunded me my deposit. so pissed. anyway, I took it as it wasn't meant to be...fast forward to owning an s4 :)

[Mops@Nemesis]

I've always loved that ADV.1 X5. Looks so mean.

And to people who say "The Jeep interior blows", let me reiterate- the new interiors are really top notch. Certainly comparable to X5/Q7 interior.

Must. Not. Respond.

[s4buckeye]

Must. Not. Respond.

love it. get me some of that naugahyde.

[LINDW4LL]

Okay. Maybe I exaggerated a bit :) The Q7 interior is killer! But I could live with the Jeeps interior.

Don't get me wrong though, I'd buy a used Cayenne turbo over a SRT8 in a second.

[Bomiz]

Well if you're spending 70k..... might as well spend 170k on a new turbo s cayenne :D

[jauri]

lol [:D]

Well if you're spending 70k..... might as well spend 170k on a new turbo s cayenne :D

[Madbusy168]

I just did a real quick research and realize that the Bmw Xdrive50i is very comparable to the Grand Cherokee Srt both 2014 model that is. For the most part, everything is on par in specs, hp, torque, 0-60, quarter mile, even pricing. Keep in mind, this is without any real digging, just quick glimpse here and there. Factoring 4 years maintenance and resale value, I would take the bmw anyday over the cherokee. but thats just me though.

[VeryBadman]

Wow, you guys are still going at this.

[BingBangBoom]

Wow, you guys are still going at this.

Wow, how is this thread still going. Children let this poor thing die!

[s4buckeye]

Wow, how is this thread still going. Children let this poor thing die!

No.

[northerns4]

Love it!

Thanks!

Its close to 630 HP 790 TQ

[boostfiend77]

I don't really like the new Gens used to have a gen 1 with vortech sc+meth@9psi would run 11.66@115 was my daily and would toy around my jetskis, atvs and snowmobiles and was a winter beater very useable other than mpgs but doesn't really affect me either. New one for 70k i'd opt for the X5M/CTT but the problem is with those two you better hope too all hell you have warranty on them because they are a disaster when they start failing apart, the SRT starts falling apart it's not serious $$. Cayenne Turbos are notorious for cracked Coolant Pipes, the air suspension is extremely costly if it breaks, sensors are much more expensive. There were many issues with first year X5M going into limp mode and having software issues, vanos issues and still have high pressure fuel pump issues any of those happen out of warranty you are down serious $$$. As simple as the SRT are and less refined they work and barely have as many electrical gremlins as the euros do and yet still share some euro genes the 5 speed in the gen1s is out of the SL600.