Audi Jack Pad Set?

[JJDubya]

Has anyone installed something like these jack pads on a B8: ECS Tuning Jack Pad (http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/SiteSearch/Jack_Pad/ES2583/)?

http://c1552172.r72.cf0.rackcdn.com/111005_x600.jpg

I almost ordered these a few weeks ago to use during a spring install, but I couldn't find confirmation searching here that it would work on a B8 (most searches in Google bring up VW Jetta or GTI posts regarding these). The install instructions on ECS's website indicates Mk4 Jetta and B5 A4...). In that last search, I also thought I uncovered an Audi part number for this same set, but that number eludes me, now... want to know if they fit and, if so, how safe these are to use on our cars.

[xmikegx]

PureMS sells a jack pad adapter by ProTech for $22 with grooves specifically for the pinch welds. This will work for our cars, link:

Protech Side Lift Jack Pad (http://www.purems.com/Products/PROTECHSIDEPADProtech-Side-Lift-Jack-Pad)

[JJDubya]

PureMS sells a jack pad adapter by ProTech for $22 with grooves specifically for the pinch welds. This will work for our cars, link:

Protech Side Lift Jack Pad (http://www.purems.com/Products/PROTECHSIDEPADProtech-Side-Lift-Jack-Pad)

I've seen that... but that's not what I'm after. (I've been using a hockey puck as seen in other threads and it works well...). I'm wondering if the jack pad set works with our cars. I don't recall seeing the body plugs into which these insert and I'm not near my car for another week.

[Mike@PureMS]

Those pads are designed primarily for 4 post lifts, not for single lift point floor jacks.

[eieiou22]

Did you ever find the answer? I completely understand why you would want to use these.



Has anyone installed something like these jack pads on a B8: ECS Tuning Jack Pad (http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/SiteSearch/Jack_Pad/ES2583/)?

http://c1552172.r72.cf0.rackcdn.com/111005_x600.jpg

I almost ordered these a few weeks ago to use during a spring install, but I couldn't find confirmation searching here that it would work on a B8 (most searches in Google bring up VW Jetta or GTI posts regarding these). The install instructions on ECS's website indicates Mk4 Jetta and B5 A4...). In that last search, I also thought I uncovered an Audi part number for this same set, but that number eludes me, now... want to know if they fit and, if so, how safe these are to use on our cars.

[MrFunk]

PureMS sells a jack pad adapter by ProTech for $22 with grooves specifically for the pinch welds. This will work for our cars, link:

Protech Side Lift Jack Pad (http://www.purems.com/Products/PROTECHSIDEPADProtech-Side-Lift-Jack-Pad)

I use this - works great.

[gringoloco2000]

I use this - works great.

+1

[millerrh]

What do you guys use for the pinch weld with jack stands? I want to jack up the whole front end to install the Alu Kreuz. I have heard that the factory jack is small enough that you can fit a jack stand next to it on the factory designated jack point on the pinch weld. So that was what I was planning on doing. But I'm worried my jack stands will damage the pinch weld somehow. My jack stands are flat like the image below. What do you guys recommend for these?

http://static1.fatwalletcdn.com/static/i/deals/two-craftsman-2-1-4-ton-jack-stands-93nrrrbnuf40ogg0s8c0k008w.jpg

[SHR]

What do you guys use for the pinch weld with jack stands? I want to jack up the whole front end to install the Alu Kreuz. I have heard that the factory jack is small enough that you can fit a jack stand next to it on the factory designated jack point on the pinch weld. So that was what I was planning on doing. But I'm worried my jack stands will damage the pinch weld somehow. My jack stands are flat like the image below. What do you guys recommend for these?

http://static1.fatwalletcdn.com/static/i/deals/two-craftsman-2-1-4-ton-jack-stands-93nrrrbnuf40ogg0s8c0k008w.jpg

This:

http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y480/SHRPhotos/PROTECHSTANDPAD_dp_zps362de4d4.jpg (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/SHRPhotos/media/PROTECHSTANDPAD_dp_zps362de4d4.jpg.html)

Found Here:

http://www.purems.com/Products/PROTECHSTANDPADProtech-Jack-Stand-Pad

Looks like this:

http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y480/SHRPhotos/Audi%20B8%20S4%20Suspension/DSC_0021_zps8e7f6917.jpg (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/SHRPhotos/media/Audi%20B8%20S4%20Suspension/DSC_0021_zps8e7f6917.jpg.html)

[ebi718]

^^ What jack point (underneath the engine) is being used here?

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[millerrh]

This:

http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y480/SHRPhotos/PROTECHSTANDPAD_dp_zps362de4d4.jpg (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/SHRPhotos/media/PROTECHSTANDPAD_dp_zps362de4d4.jpg.html)

Found Here:

http://www.purems.com/Products/PROTECHSTANDPADProtech-Jack-Stand-Pad

Looks like this:

http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y480/SHRPhotos/Audi%20B8%20S4%20Suspension/DSC_0021_zps8e7f6917.jpg (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/SHRPhotos/media/Audi%20B8%20S4%20Suspension/DSC_0021_zps8e7f6917.jpg.html)

I saw those as well but wasn't sure if they were good enough for a pinch weld since they lacked a slot. Looks like they will be fine! Thanks for sharing.

BTW, also curious about where you jacked up the car in the middle. Might be a good way to get it up in the air for both sides at once instead of trying to use the widowmaker.

[SHR]

I saw those as well but wasn't sure if they were good enough for a pinch weld since they lacked a slot. Looks like they will be fine! Thanks for sharing.

BTW, also curious about where you jacked up the car in the middle. Might be a good way to get it up in the air for both sides at once instead of trying to use the widowmaker.

I haven't found a good place in the middle of the front of the car to place a floor jack, and I don't love the location I have been using but it is where the control arm connects to the frame. I place my floor jack directly under it at the frame mount and it kind of nestles into the jack cup, seen here:
http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y480/SHRPhotos/Audi%20B8%20S4%20Suspension/DSC_0022_zpsec21759b.jpg (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/SHRPhotos/media/Audi%20B8%20S4%20Suspension/DSC_0022_zpsec21759b.jpg.html)

The process I use is:

1) drive the car up on my race ramps. I bought race ramps years ago for my first lowered car, they are expensive but fantastic
http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y480/SHRPhotos/Audi%20B8%20S4%20Suspension/DSC_0020_zpsde118462.jpg (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/SHRPhotos/media/Audi%20B8%20S4%20Suspension/DSC_0020_zpsde118462.jpg.html)
2) place my floor jack where the control arm attaches to the frame, again another low profile purchase to get under the dropped cars
http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y480/SHRPhotos/Audi%20B8%20S4%20Suspension/DSC_0021_zps8e7f6917.jpg (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/SHRPhotos/media/Audi%20B8%20S4%20Suspension/DSC_0021_zps8e7f6917.jpg.html)
3) raise the car further with the floor jack
4) place the jack stand with the Pure Jack Stand Pad under the pinch weld area inline with the alignment arrow
5) lower the car. My stands have a deep "v" which the Pure Pad kind of squishes into when the car is lowered onto it, nice and protected
6) repeat on the other side

lifting the rear is similar but I have been using a location in the middle which you can see in this picture:
http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y480/SHRPhotos/Audi%20B8%20S4%20Suspension/DSC_0003-001_zps510f7872.jpg (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/SHRPhotos/media/Audi%20B8%20S4%20Suspension/DSC_0003-001_zps510f7872.jpg.html)

All of this could be avoided with these jacks
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/504081-Jack-amp-Stands?p=7984137&viewfull=1#post7984137
but they are not cheap, and I've already invested in the afore mentioned tools that work for me:

Check out this thread, there are better pictures of the jack areas I described above:

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/504081-Jack-amp-Stands?p=8856930&viewfull=1#post8856930

[millerrh]

^^^^
You, sir, are awesome. Thanks!

[millerrh]

Someone mentioned they use jack stands on either side of the pinch weld without problems. That's also not a bad idea.

[JJDubya]

Someone mentioned they use jack stands on either side of the pinch weld without problems. That's also not a bad idea.

That's what I did when I installed the AK on my car. One word of caution, though: if you start with all four wheels on the ground, and jack up one side at a time to place the jackstand beside the pinch weld, there is some instability involved. Once one side is on the jackstand, be very careful as you lift the other side. Since neither the top or the bottom of the jackstand can slide, the jackstand can become unstable (ie., one side slightly lifts off the ground and/or can actually tip over). SHR's method above avoids this instability as the angles involved relative to either stand are more parallel to the ground. If you watch just how much a floor jack moves when you jack up the car from the side, you'll see just how much the jackpoint needs to move. I almost learned all of this the "hard way".

[millerrh]

Well shoot...I think my Craftsman 2 1/4 ton jack is too small for the PureMS jack pads. OD of the portion that lifts is only 2 5/8" and the 1007 model of jack pads is designed to fit around a 2 7/8" max. Wonder if I should just get a better/proper low profile jack. I think my craftsman one was like $60 for the jack and stand kit. Pretty entry level.

Saw this one in that Jack & Stands thread that seems like a good candidate.

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200345429_200345429

Anyone got other suggestions?

[SHR]

Well shoot...I think my Craftsman 2 1/4 ton jack is too small for the PureMS jack pads. OD of the portion that lifts is only 2 5/8" and the 1007 model of jack pads is designed to fit around a 2 7/8" max. Wonder if I should just get a better/proper low profile jack. I think my craftsman one was like $60 for the jack and stand kit. Pretty entry level.

Saw this one in that Jack & Stands thread that seems like a good candidate.

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200345429_200345429

Anyone got other suggestions?

I have this one from Harbor Freight, it's in my pics above.

http://www.harborfreight.com/2-ton-heavy-duty-low-profile-floor-jack-with-rapid-pump-68050.html

I've had it since 2011 and its been good so far. Very low profile, great height, and good quality. I can get it pretty far under the car without rolling up on ramps, but I use ramps to minimize the instability referenced by JJDubya.

[inNout]

I couldn't justify spending 20 dollars for a jack adapter so I just ordered a hockey puck for 5 dollars on amazon (2day prime shipping). Hope it works.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000TMD826/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31WwCKxpOqL.jpg

[1MORLAP]

Guys:

This is important. Little rant, I used a hockey puck sized piece of wood - softer. It broke, sending my jack off the seam and bending the floor. It is visible from above! Sucks.

Seems the PureMS jack adapters are crap. Cutouts where the seam is supposed to go are too deep, and the jack adapter rests on the floor NOT on the seem - which I believe is a problem. Especially knowing now how soft the floor is. Seams are also so soft, that using the jack straight does not work. If someone here has a proper, safe solution - please let me know. At this point I am thinking of just having something machined and selling it myself.

If you know the best material for this - please let me know and I will look into making a proper solution for our cars and different jack pad sizes.

Tomasz

[millerrh]

Are you sure they aren't supposed to straddle the seam and support the floor like the PureMS one does? I've only used the factory jack once, but I could have sworn that's what it does. Maybe I am wrong about that though...it's been awhile since I did it.

[1MORLAP]

Are you sure they aren't supposed to straddle the seam and support the floor like the PureMS one does? I've only used the factory jack once, but I could have sworn that's what it does. Maybe I am wrong about that though...it's been awhile since I did it.

If that is the case then the PureMS stuff is indeed good, and I would highly recommend something! If though this is the case, then a hockey puck is definitely NOT a good way to go. So, do we lift the car by the seam or by the floor around it?

Tomasz

[drob23]

I did the hockey puck thing and it stripped the anti rust rubber coating on the pinch weld and the puck eventually cracked and broke at the bottom. Definitely worth it to get the pureMS pad.

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[fritze18]

The floor around the seam bears the weight. The factory jack is designed this way also. I have the PureMS jack pad, and have used it for 3 years now (first, on my B8 A4, and just yesterday on my B8.5 S4). Highly recommended. At the rear jack points, there is minimal room to place a jack without touching the plastic protection under the car, but the jack pad JUST fits in there. Keep this in mind when you go to jack your car up there. You'll see what I'm talking about.

Also, if the circumference of the jack pad is too large for your jack, it can be trimmed down. I just used a sharp utility knife, then filed down the uneven parts. Fits perfectly.

[inNout]

Also, if the circumference of the jack pad is too large for your jack, it can be trimmed down. I just used a sharp utility knife, then filed down the uneven parts. Fits perfectly.

This is my plan with the hockey puck. I'll trim it down so it doesn't press against the surrounding body part.

[millerrh]

My problem with my jack is that it has too small of a diameter for the jack pad. The jack pad would have to fit around it and even then the jack pad is too big - like too much of it will hang over the edge. So looking for a proper jack now.

But this conversation has me thinking about jack stand pads too. All of those that I have seen are simply rubber with no slot, so the weight is supported by the seam. Since people have had success with these it seems like the seams might really be ok to hold some weight, but that the preference is to straddle it.

[fritze18]

My problem with my jack is that it has too small of a diameter for the jack pad. The jack pad would have to fit around it and even then the jack pad is too big - like too much of it will hang over the edge. So looking for a proper jack now.

But this conversation has me thinking about jack stand pads too. All of those that I have seen are simply rubber with no slot, so the weight is supported by the seam. Since people have had success with these it seems like the seams might really be ok to hold some weight, but that the preference is to straddle it.

The seams will take the weight for sure, but be careful not to bend them. I believe that the main reason for the seam is to provide stability, so that the vehicle can't slide off of the jack. The area around the seam is what is suppose to bear the weight.

[1MORLAP]

My problem with my jack is that it has too small of a diameter for the jack pad. The jack pad would have to fit around it and even then the jack pad is too big - like too much of it will hang over the edge. So looking for a proper jack now.

But this conversation has me thinking about jack stand pads too. All of those that I have seen are simply rubber with no slot, so the weight is supported by the seam. Since people have had success with these it seems like the seams might really be ok to hold some weight, but that the preference is to straddle it.

One of the pads - the smaller one is designed to go around the jack...

[1MORLAP]

The seams will take the weight for sure, but be careful not to bend them. I believe that the main reason for the seam is to provide stability, so that the vehicle can't slide off of the jack. The area around the seam is what is suppose to bear the weight.

Crap! I wish I knew that few days ago.

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I couldn't justify spending 20 dollars for a jack adapter so I just ordered a hockey puck for 5 dollars on amazon (2day prime shipping). Hope it works.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000TMD826/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31WwCKxpOqL.jpg

$5.00?!??? [o_o]

They sell for a $1.50 here in the Great White North!

I use one on my low profile jack and it does not damage the pinch welds. If you want a groove just run the puck over a table saw blade and you have a pinch weld puck! [wrench]

Here is a picture of a poly pinch weld puck you can find as well

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-kKroftVL_RQ/T54QDs9Ld4I/AAAAAAAAAJM/UlDTEiKF7QQ/s800/2012_%25204_29_21_%25207.jpg

[millerrh]

One of the pads - the smaller one is designed to go around the jack...

Yeah but if you look at the picture and dimensions given on their web site, my jack is still too small. I think the middle section would interfere. Called them up to ask and the guy recommended I not use it. My jack has an OD of 2 5/8", jack pad requires at least 2 7/8. It's close and some carving of the jack pad might work. But I want to make sure things are fitting properly so prob will end up getting a larger jack that is also lower profile.

[B8 S FOR]

I couldn't justify spending 20 dollars for a jack adapter so I just ordered a hockey puck for 5 dollars on amazon (2day prime shipping). Hope it works.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000TMD826/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31WwCKxpOqL.jpg

I have been using a Hockey Puck for years with ZERO issues on my Audis. I paid about $1.50 at Dick's Sporting Goods. [>_<]

[audibmi]

This is my plan with the hockey puck. I'll trim it down so it doesn't press against the surrounding body part.

no need for trimming, and not need to cut a groove in the puck. cutting a slot will eventually lead to the puck splitting. the semi-hard rubber will deform enough to cradle the pinch weld and distribute the load evenly.

http://i.imgur.com/cEm9G3w.jpg

[inNout]

^ sweet. Thanks for the info. I have the same jack except the anniversary logo.

[BoostEasy]

I always just used a soft piece of pine wood, maybe an inch thick on top of jack stands. You have to make sure not to align the seam of the rocker channel with the grain of the wood otherwise you can easily split the wood. But if it's turned the correct direction, the soft pine just gets crushed and pinched nicely by the rocker channel grove and takes up the weight.

I typically use a larger, tougher chunk of wood for the floor jack pad. Works well.

Depending on how low the car is, I sometimes have to pull up on the radiator support or wheel well opening on the fender to get the suspension up a little to slide the jack under. I haven't tried the S5 yet- may be too low for the floorjack without lifting it slightly with a scissor jack or drive the front wheels up on some 2x4s.

Jackpads sound nice but I do well enough with the wood chunks that I've never bothered buying them.

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

For those of you that are using the hockey puck you don't need to groove it that deep. Just enough for the pinch weld to sit in and not slide off. Maybe a 1/4 or so.

Jason

[millerrh]

Do you guys have any experience with jack stands that just have the flat bottom instead of the wider A shaped support on normal jack stands? Something about these seems not as sturdy to me. Maybe I'm just being paranoid about it but it seems these would be easier to tip compared to the others. But they do seem great for snuggling up next to a jack in tight situations.

In my search for a new jack I ran across the OTC jack you've got pictured above and it seems like a decent choice. On Amazon they will throw these stands in for an extra $40.

http://www.gambardellaracing.com/media/ecom/prodsm/otc-1582_w.jpg

[Mike@PureMS]

Our jackpad is designed for the pinch welds, and is supposed to support the pinch weld and lift from both sides of it. Here's a photograph of it in use.
http://www.purems.com/images/my_storage/jackpad2.jpg

You don't want to lift ON the pinch weld itself as you run the risk of bending it over with any sudden sideways movement of the car.

[millerrh]

Mike, what do you recommend for jack stand placement then since the slot doesn't exist in your jack stand pads? Would you place jack stands on either side of the pinch weld or directly on it?

[eieiou22]

Are you sure they aren't supposed to straddle the seam and support the floor like the PureMS one does? I've only used the factory jack once, but I could have sworn that's what it does. Maybe I am wrong about that though...it's been awhile since I did it.

I always thought the desired contact point should be at the seam, and not the floor. Can someone please confirm?

[drob23]

Our jackpad is designed for the pinch welds, and is supposed to support the pinch weld and lift from both sides of it. Here's a photograph of it in use.
http://www.purems.com/images/my_storage/jackpad2.jpg

You don't want to lift ON the pinch weld itself as you run the risk of bending it over with any sudden sideways movement of the car.

Bought one these, best move I've made. This is after mildly bending the pinch weld using the hockey puck method. Penny smart pound foolish for sure...

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[apexit1]

Here's a question. Why is there a pinch weld in the jack point that's not supposed to be squished?

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[brutus27]

Our jackpad is designed for the pinch welds, and is supposed to support the pinch weld and lift from both sides of it. Here's a photograph of it in use.
http://www.purems.com/images/my_storage/jackpad2.jpg

You don't want to lift ON the pinch weld itself as you run the risk of bending it over with any sudden sideways movement of the car.
Mike, What are the dimensions for the 2 different sizes (1006 & 1007)?

[millerrh]

I just ordered the 1006. It is 4.5" diameter and has the solid base. It's got a bit of a lip on it though, so if too big, you could always trim that part off. My jack has a 4.5" flat surface to jack from, so it will fit perfect.

http://www.purems.com/images/product-images/1368123398_4_dp.jpg

The other one is smaller and meant to fit over a jack, but I can't really tell what the diameter of the business end on each is. Seems like 1007 probably has a smaller diameter where it actually touches the pinch weld.

[will13k7]

Are using Jack Stands with Pads safe at the four pinch weld lift points?

Is 2-tons sufficient even though our cars are almost 2-tons?

When the car goes up on a lift, does it use different jack points?

[millerrh]

Are using Jack Stands with Pads safe at the four pinch weld lift points?

Is 2-tons sufficient even though our cars are almost 2-tons?

When the car goes up on a lift, does it use different jack points?

I also ordered these.

http://www.purems.com/Products/PROTECHSTANDPADProtech-Jack-Stand-Pad

Only problem I can see is that using these, you actually will be supporting the car by the pinch weld and not each side of it. But the pad likely will act as a softer interface that better distributes the weight. I imagine similar to the hockey puck method, but for your jack stands.

I've also seen people support the car with jack stands on the lower control arm.

Are there other places people have been using jack stands successfully? Please share if you have a good location.

[noshadow]

I tried jacking up my car and also used jack stands, just like I used to on Acuras. Apparently I was destroying my pinch welds. Crushed one side a bit too much. I had no idea it was so damn dainty.

I'll get the PureMS one, but not sure what size is right, 1006 or 1007?

For the jack stands, do you rest the pinch weld on the stand? Seems like that's still crushing the pinch weld right? Can you rest it on the part next to the pinch weld, towards the outside, if it fits?

Would love to see a closeup of how you're using the jack stand pads and where the contact points are.

[millerrh]

Either size will work. It depends on your jack size which one to get. I've been using mine a lot on factory jack points without issue. For jack stands I also got their jack stand pads. These actually touch the pinch weld. So not too confident in these. But at least they are softer and distribute the load a bit better.

[aaronz]

Does anyone have a picture of how they are putting their jackstands on the car? I know you don't wan the "U" of the jackstand to straddle the pinch weld, so are you just putting it next to it? I did that for 20 seconds and it pushed that area up a bit....

[achilleas101]

i cut hockey pucks like so, for both the jack and stands. works nicely for me. don't have a pic of them attached to the car, but one should get the idea.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gzgWk2cx7JY/U3a70q6iCYI/AAAAAAAAJuI/h8J_rr9V-_M/s800/20140516_212852.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Ua02J6MR7Mo/U3a71axIu0I/AAAAAAAAJuE/kzHr7hC77uk/s512/20140516_212951.jpg

[shadycrew31]

I reckon there are some Darwin awards to hand out in this thread.

[bbhbba]

i cut hockey pucks like so, for both the jack and stands. works nicely for me. don't have a pic of them attached to the car, but one should get the idea.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gzgWk2cx7JY/U3a70q6iCYI/AAAAAAAAJuI/h8J_rr9V-_M/s800/20140516_212852.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Ua02J6MR7Mo/U3a71axIu0I/AAAAAAAAJuE/kzHr7hC77uk/s512/20140516_212951.jpg

+1

I also use cut-out hockey pucks and they work great.

[l4cky]

Is it normal that the pinch weld is like 1 foot long??

[Shimmy]

Has anyone installed something like these jack pads on a B8: ECS Tuning Jack Pad (http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/SiteSearch/Jack_Pad/ES2583/)?

http://c1552172.r72.cf0.rackcdn.com/111005_x600.jpg

I almost ordered these a few weeks ago to use during a spring install, but I couldn't find confirmation searching here that it would work on a B8 (most searches in Google bring up VW Jetta or GTI posts regarding these). The install instructions on ECS's website indicates Mk4 Jetta and B5 A4...). In that last search, I also thought I uncovered an Audi part number for this same set, but that number eludes me, now... want to know if they fit and, if so, how safe these are to use on our cars.

did anyone actually end up installing these? Seems like these would be the perfect idea for where to place jack stands.

[LYKUNO]

Is it normal that the pinch weld is like 1 foot long??

The pinch welds run the length of the underbody between the wheel wells. They're mostly covered in the plastic underbody cladding except for the areas where the front and rear jacking points (designated by the arrows embossed in the rocker panels) are located.