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Jmanrueng
06-05-2013, 09:44 AM
Hi All,

I've heard different terms/names thrown out for engine code scanners - VAGCOM, OBDIII, etc - and I'm wondering what exactly to buy in order to read fault codes.

My car is presently sputtering in mid to low RMP when full acceleration is applied in gears 3-6. Not sure what the cause could be - I have 123,000 miles. Thinking of changing the spark plugs and coil packs. Upgraded APR Stage 1 with new Diverter Valve are the only mods I've done.

Hugh@EuropaParts
06-05-2013, 09:54 AM
The hex can is hands down our biggest seller... does everything you would need. It will scan the car, tell you what code, and also tell you what needs to be done to get rid of the CEL. You can do tons of mods such as unlocking settings that are only available in other parts of the world etc... hands down the best "scanner" money can buy.

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If you own an Audi or VW you need a powerful tool that will help keep your vehicle on the road. Ross-Tech's VCDS helps diagnose real problems instead of swapping out costly parts. With features found only on dealer level factory tools, VCDS surpasses the performance of aftermarket diagnostic tools and rivals factory tools for a fraction of the cost. Always know exactly how your vehicle is running instead of paying someone else to diagnose the problems, usually leaving you with a huge repair bill.

With Ross-Tech's VCDS you can:


Gain full access to all systems in cars from 1990 through the current model year
Scan for and clear DTC's with 13,000 fault codes decoded into plain text
Alter settings normally accessible only to dealerships
Code replacement modules and select options
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Essential for any Audi / Volkswagen owner, this VAG-COM cable and software will allow you to perform the same advanced computer diagnostics as your Authorized dealer. In addition, you will be able to perform various country-specific modifications to your car (removing seat belt chime, enabling gauge test/needle sweep, enabling lap timer, operating windows and sunroof with remote, and much more).


Works with all diagnostic-capable Audi / Volkswagen cars from 1990 through the current model year.
Acts as a "dongle" - activation for the full-function version of VCDS software is built-in!
Use VCDS software on any suitable PC with an available USB port - no activation codes required.
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12-month guarantee against defects.
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This Micro-CAN cable is a low-cost interface is compatible only with the Audi A3 (8P chassis), Audi TT MK2 (8J chassis), and VW Golf MkV-based cars sold in the North American market. See Ross-Tech's Micro-CAN technical page for a list of compatible models.


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Bi-Color (red/green) status/activity LED
12 month guarantee against defects
For more details and a list of supported models, see Ross-Tech's Micro-CAN technical page.



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Your Audi has a few secrets that can be activated with this tool. For example,


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Enabling Gauge Test/Needle Sweep
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Operating Windows and Sunroof with Remote
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This VCDS Ultra Professional Kit is a turn-key factory-level diagnostic system for cars made by the VW/Audi group. VCDS software running on the included Netbook PC provides full support for vehicles from 1990 through the current model year. VCDS will access all diagnostic capable control modules with the ability to read and clear fault codes, adapt modules, perform basic settings, and read/log/graph live data.

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This VAG-COM USB 2.0 Active Extension Cable is used to extend the reach of a Ross-Tech USB Interface from the computer to the vehicle. It connects between the USB port on the computer to the USB plug on the interface. The length of this cable is 16 feet or 5 meters.

It is constructed of high quality signal cable and active repeater electronics which boost the USB signal for maximum reliability and performance over extended distances.

Up to two (2) of these cables can be plugged together to extend the reach of a Ross-Tech interface to a maximum of 38 feet (12m). Ross-Tech has tested and certified this length of extension. Lengths beyond 38 feet on the USB cables are neither recommended nor supported.

Please Note: these are the only USB extension cables Ross-Tech will support at this time. They have tested them extensively and found them to perform to their standards.

WalkerT
06-05-2013, 10:38 AM
I have and use a generic over the counter OBD2 scan tool. Read codes on all my cars (BMW/Audi) so it is more useful to buy one that you can use on several different models. If you want to change you coding in the ECU for different functions then buy the Ross tech or ebay cable.

aluthman
06-05-2013, 10:45 AM
I have a craftsman scanner that will scan and clear codes. It was about $100 IIRC. I also have the ross-tech cable and it is infinitely more useful on my car though. Apparently, I will also be able to read and clear codes with Maestro when that gets delivered.

Jay-Bee
06-05-2013, 06:47 PM
Android phone users have the benefit of a 20$ ELM327 OBD bluetooth module.. i've used it dozens of times... and can display gauges if you mount a phone/tablet in the car. the Torque app is only 5 bucks... best 25$ you can spend on a car.

There's a whole thread about it.

Jmdavis13
06-05-2013, 08:28 PM
Android phone users have the benefit of a 20$ ELM327 OBD bluetooth module.. i've used it dozens of times... and can display gauges if you mount a phone/tablet in the car. the Torque app is only 5 bucks... best 25$ you can spend on a car.

There's a whole thread about it.

Any tech savy guys think you could use this with a jail broken iPhone?

Jmdavis13
06-05-2013, 08:33 PM
Or has anyone tried the "Plx kiwi 2 wifi"
Says it does everything for the iPhone
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/06/4avuzu3a.jpg

IKE20VA4
06-05-2013, 09:12 PM
Vag Com is all I have ever needed for my VAG cars... Has paid for itself a few times over...

jsandor91
06-05-2013, 10:12 PM
Or has anyone tried the "Plx kiwi 2 wifi"
Says it does everything for the iPhone
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/06/4avuzu3a.jpg

you can probably buy a cheap android tablet torque and the Bluetooth scanner for less then the cost of that.

easiest thing you could do is buy a 1-2 year old used android phone and just use it for that.

wildcat333
06-05-2013, 10:57 PM
this thread inspired me to finally get something!
rebooted my old Droid phone and downloaded the Torque app over wifi, and bought an ELM blutooth OBD2 port dongle thing on Amazon. Should be good.

jsandor91
06-06-2013, 07:46 AM
this thread inspired me to finally get something!
rebooted my old Droid phone and downloaded the Torque app over wifi, and bought an ELM blutooth OBD2 port dongle thing on Amazon. Should be good.

[up]

when i tell people i can clear check engine lights with my phone.... they're like are you a hacker or something haha

wildcat333
06-06-2013, 07:56 AM
[up]

when i tell people i can clear check engine lights with my phone.... they're like are you a hacker or something haha

Ya! Can't wait. I also cannot believe my Droid Incredible ( original) from 2010 actually works properly still.

Toasted Coastie
06-06-2013, 08:08 AM
I use it with my Nexus 7. Comes in handy, but DOES NOT show hidden or stored codes that VAGCOM will. For instance, my car had 2 stored codes that the Tourque app never caught that my tuner did catch with the cable.... There was a misfire code as well as a "low fuel level" code.

I thought it was because my plugs were gapped wrong, so I changed them out with plugs properly, and I still get an occasional misfire. I probably will have to change out injectors, and I need to find a shop local to me that will do a carbon cleaning (by hand, no BG this time)

wildcat333
06-06-2013, 08:13 AM
I use it with my Nexus 7. Comes in handy, but DOES NOT show hidden or stored codes that VAGCOM will. For instance, my car had 2 stored codes that the Tourque app never caught that my tuner did catch with the cable.... There was a misfire code as well as a "low fuel level" code.

I thought it was because my plugs were gapped wrong, so I changed them out with plugs properly, and I still get an occasional misfire. I probably will have to change out injectors, and I need to find a shop local to me that will do a carbon cleaning (by hand, no BG this time)

East Coast European in Greenland, NH does carbon cleanings.

Jay-Bee
06-06-2013, 06:48 PM
Any tech savy guys think you could use this with a jail broken iPhone?

Nope, it has something to do with the way the bluetooth drivers run on iOS. That kiwi thing is expensive and the only app on the apple store I know of costs a decent amount too... I know some one on here runs it (Operator maybe?)

Jmanrueng
06-14-2013, 01:52 PM
I purchased a Ross-Tech cable per the forums recommendation and I really love the device! I'm now trying to learn how to best log data now to determine if I'm loosing any performance/not getting the appropriate amount of boost from the turbo. Thanks!

Obsidian
06-14-2013, 02:27 PM
Just an FYI...

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/497078-App-Torque-Chat?p=8823595#post8823595

gdlkn84as
06-14-2013, 02:42 PM
Dual welding Ross-tech and Torque!!!! My Bluetooth stays plugged in to show it off and vagcom has been so useful with everything else!!!

I recommend everybody get both!!!!

Jmdavis13
06-14-2013, 07:41 PM
Nope, it has something to do with the way the bluetooth drivers run on iOS. That kiwi thing is expensive and the only app on the apple store I know of costs a decent amount too... I know some one on here runs it (Operator maybe?)

But you can change most of that with jail breaking. I usto have it so I could stream Bluetooth music like a call was going through the car. Kindof bad quality though

kloeb2
06-14-2013, 08:30 PM
I'm rockin vagcom, torque, maestro, and a cheapo obd2 scanner for codes/logging. I'm pretty well equipped :)

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Operator
06-14-2013, 08:33 PM
Nope, it has something to do with the way the bluetooth drivers run on iOS. That kiwi thing is expensive and the only app on the apple store I know of costs a decent amount too... I know some one on here runs it (Operator maybe?)

I use Logworks OT-2 wifi and their free Logworks app (plus their PC software). You can find the OT-2 cable on ebay for less than MSRP. I also have Torque. Both a fine apps, but Torque is really slow when it comes to scanning for codes. Intermittent codes will be gone before Torque picks them up, while Logworks is almost instant. Really about the only difference. Torque does also seem to have more parameters to monitor though.

Operator
06-14-2013, 08:34 PM
Also: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/448064-In-car-diagnostic-tools-programs-software

Jay-Bee
06-15-2013, 12:29 PM
But you can change most of that with jail breaking. I usto have it so I could stream Bluetooth music like a call was going through the car. Kindof bad quality though

Streaming is a bit different than creating a 2 way data connection, but maybe there is a fix out there, but the iOS apps that are made for this don't have BT support only wifi, and good luck porting android apps to ios.

Not trying to make it difficult just stating what i know.

Also... this is why torque rocks, I don't have the tablet anymore but have a pretty big phone.

http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo233/8ValveTurbo/Audi%20A4/4e4eb9da.jpg (http://s379.photobucket.com/user/8ValveTurbo/media/Audi%20A4/4e4eb9da.jpg.html)