View Full Version : AWE EXHAUST REVIEW ON MY S7 and S6
S4Vert
04-24-2013, 09:46 AM
I would start out by saying . . . . I have owned a number of Audi cars S4, RS4, S5 and lately the RS5, S7 and S6. I have a car problem like many today and like some I do not stay in a car long. It got so bad I got a Dealer’s License. I have loved Audi products for years and also have had a number of other brands and love them all for different reasons. In the last few years I have had a number of AMGs, Ms and GM products. I am done with major mods and now have fun with minor mods and bolt-ons.
THE S7
I had the RS5 a few months . . . I liked it but sold for another car. A short time after that Tommy from Nemesis Autosport in Wilmington, Delaware called me on a S7. I scored it and sent AWE Tuning an e-mail to see if they wanted the car for exhaust development. I was contacted by Todd, the owner of the company, and a plan for an exhaust system was put in motion. I was excited as I have had AWE Tuning products before and found them to be of good quality.
When I picked the S7 up from AWE Tuning with the completed system on it, I was amazed at the refinement of the exhaust. It suits the car well. . . . there is zero drone . . . I read somewhere that the stock exhaust could not be heard in the cabin. . .I could clearly hear the AWE exhaust in the driver’s seat, even with windows up. I drive with all settings in Dynamic all the time and the down shifts sound like one of my manual cars. I would say that for guys that are looking for loud this is not it. I would say that they have named this product appropriately as a “Touring” system, though when you get on it . . . . it jumps up a level or two and lets you in on the game that’s afoot. Too many fast lux cruisers isolate you from the speed and road feel and the AWE Exhaust does a lot to add to the special feel of the S6. The AWE Tuning system is very refined (you can pull out of your neighborhood at 5:00 am for a workout without people putting you on their hate list) though closer to sport when you are at WOT. The refinement fits the car’s character.
In my opinion this system is perfectly suited for this car.
I currently have an E93 M3 with an AA exhaust and cutouts and it has some drone and rasp . . . as well as a Camaro SS Vert that has American Racing headers and catback . . . . this makes me really appreciate the time and effort AWE put in to this system. It is head and shoulders above stock set up.
The S6
Several months later, I had a shot at an S6. I sold the S7 and took my AWE Tuning Exhaust and put it on the new S6. Why would someone sell the S7 for the S6? The S6 felt slightly quicker to me and a little more tossible. It was real to me . . . . . so that was enough. The exhaust fit perfectly and sounds too close to the S7 for me to discern a difference. I love the sleeper aspect of the S6 and the AWE set up plays well into that sleeper mode till you get on it. The stock exhaust is way too quiet for me.
In Summary
The AWE Tuning Exhaust should be the first mod for both the S6 and S7. It suits both cars well and upon start up you know you have something special. The tone is smooth and the right note. It does get louder when you hammer the car. I told AWE Tuning I would be first in line for something louder when they have it - but now I am not so sure.
Sometime times Mods can be hard on the head so it makes a difference on the products and shops you use to install them. I was impressed with the tour I got of the AWE shop. A lot of research goes in to every single product. The sound canceling technology research is worth the time and money getting it perfected. I have bought their products in the past and will do so in the future. I find them to be very reputable and easy to deal with. Communication was excellent. Best of all I love the products.
I am now putting the system on another S6 and will pick it up shortly . . . .yeah I sold my Glacier White and will now be sporting a Estoril Blue one . . . but that is another story.
I logged about 1,400 on the S7 and about 500 on the S6. It does raise the question of noise level after break-in at about 5,000 miles or so. It may not vary much but I cannot say. Below is my take of +/- of the exhaust.
Plus Notes
Car at idles sound excellent
Exhaust tone is spot on (Touring Exhaust)
Exhaust sounds good on the downshifts
At tip in and WOT it is awesome (Closer to Sport)
No Drone!!!
Looks perfect and sits well (I have the black tips)
Quality work and construction
Reputable Company
Minus Notes
Could be louder (but I would reserve this comment after a longer period with the system)
The AWE Tuning Exhaust is worth the money in my opinion. I cannot compare it to other systems as it is the only one I have heard. It has a nice rumble that is noticed but would not raise an eyebrow until you open it up. It has a nice rich sound. My next step will be a tune and I am sure that will be a lot of fun. Anyone who is reading this made a choice on the S7/S6 and had several options available as far as new . . . . . . or a step up on a low mile used car. If you do not tune your car (I feel it is begging for it) you should definitely put an exhaust system on it. It is worth it. (down shifts!!!)
Thanks again Todd for the opportunity to do this with your Company. You clearly put a lot of time and effort into your products. I was a fan before and I am even more so now.
A lot of people do not go the extra distance needed and it is evident by your success that AWE Tuning does.
Hit Tommy Mihok up at Nemesis Autosport for more pics of the AWE Tuning Exhaust or to place an order. Tommy has been helping me mod my cars for years and loves what he does. Great Guy and a owns a hot S5 . . . .it is ever evolving and costs me money every time I see it . . . .Tommy put me in touch with AWE Tuning and I am glad he did.
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Anyone that wants a sound clip or a ride hit me up. I am right off I-95 in Delaware.
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Questions are also welcomed . . . .sorry for the long ramble.
DC
Durwin@TAG
04-24-2013, 11:14 AM
DC,
great write up, I know a lot of people are looking for reviews on the exhaust and this will be a great help for them.
regards,
Nick Barnes
s4ibis
04-24-2013, 11:25 AM
Great write up. Wow a dealers license? I thought I had an Audi addiction :)
Any noticeable performance gains from the exhaust?
S4Vert
04-24-2013, 01:04 PM
There were some gains in HP and Trq . . . .about 17 HP and the Trq is close to the same . . . with a tune it may be more.
DC
Tommy@Nemesis
04-24-2013, 01:20 PM
Quick cell pics!
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8258/8662465153_2854062be6_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8250/8663561494_b6de882b37_b.jpg
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http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8257/8663560020_e0d4470cf0_b.jpg
mwar99
04-26-2013, 06:54 PM
Crap, now I know what my car will look like with the exhaust...I think I may be spending some $$'s in the near future...
Estoril looks fabu! Any videos of the exhaust?
Josh/AWE
05-08-2013, 07:00 AM
Here is our video of the exhaust on a different car. Hope this helps!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0etj4muEMi4
I was considering a touring exhaust for my 16' a7. Wish I could hear it in person on the sane car..... would live to get that S7 sound or close to it!!!
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SilveR316
10-12-2016, 07:14 AM
I was considering a touring exhaust for my 16' a7. Wish I could hear it in person on the sane car..... would live to get that S7 sound or close to it!!!
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The A7 and S7 have different engines (v6 vs v8) and the exhaust note is vastly different between the two.
That said... the AWE touring exhaust note on the 3.0T v6 engine is fantastic. I had it on my S4 and I would do it over again if I had to.
The A7 and S7 have different engines (v6 vs v8) and the exhaust note is vastly different between the two.
That said... the AWE touring exhaust note on the 3.0T v6 engine is fantastic. I had it on my S4 and I would do it over again if I had to.
Well that's promising!!! I live the TT v8 engine ( insert drool here). Maybe I will do it! Wonder what awe charges if you buy it and have them install vs install elsewhere they are pretty expensive from what I understand.
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Webtoker
10-13-2016, 03:33 PM
Not a big fan of the tips AWE is providing with these. Hoping they will offer a better, more appropriate for the car, set of tips.
Seems a bit unrefined how the tips slide on and after you can see the other pipe coming through. They could stand to have a more thick appearance as well. The beveled edge makes them look pretty thin from a distance. They could even size them down some as I think they are a little out of place for the type of car.
That being said, the sound of the touring is perfect. Build quality seem to be great when looking at it during installation.
A stock look tip option would make these perfect all around :-)
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Not a big fan of the tips AWE is providing with these. Hoping they will offer a better, more appropriate for the car, set of tips.
Seems a bit unrefined how the tips slide on and after you can see the other pipe coming through. They could stand to have a more thick appearance as well. The beveled edge makes them look pretty thin from a distance. They could even size them down some as I think they are a little out of place for the type of car.
That being said, the sound of the touring is perfect. Build quality seem to be great when looking at it during installation.
A stock look tip option would make these perfect all around :-)
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Agree with the tips. I have a 16 a7 and my tips are different shape with the fascia above them to match. I do not know how the round tips will work with a different fascia and different tip.
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.............The AWE Tuning Exhaust should be the first mod for both the S6 and S7...........
DC
Interesting opinion.....
I have modded my ECU, TCU, suspension, wheels, tires, brakes, rear valance, added fog lights and a laser jammer, but have kept the exhaust completely stock. I really enjoy my B&O sound, and I do have my Porsche for when I am in the mood for an aggressive exhaust.
That being said, AWE wouldn't be my first choice. The sound is very nice from what I have heard, but I would like a system that preserves the valves and allows for a mellow as well as a more aggressive tone when desired, and I would like tips that have a different design. I find the MTM exhaust to be the best option. Just my opinion of course.
Webtoker
10-13-2016, 04:50 PM
Tips on the MTM look perfect!
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Tips on the MTM look perfect!
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Yes. 89mm circular.....just slightly larger overall than than the stock tips. Nice, thick rolled tips with a classy look. Perfectly staggered. Perfectly angled.
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k545/LarThaL/audi-s6-c7-sedan-mtm-40tfsi-8-600x399.jpg
Webtoker
10-13-2016, 05:43 PM
I wonder if I could buy the tips from them and swap.
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I wonder if I could buy the tips from them and swap.
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Looks like the MTM ones slide on with clamps similar to the AWE, so that might work! Agree with everyone about the AWE tips not befitting this type of car. Something more similar to stock but slightly larger would be perfect.
Here's a video of me at the Audi Club NorthWest Maryhill Loops event. Used 2 GoPros to capture the audio from the trunk.
AWE Touring with about 15k miles on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wybtCLCu0hY
tenspeed
10-14-2016, 07:40 AM
I agree with S4Vert about the fit, finish and sound of the AWE Touring exhaust. Mine is attached to the 3.0L engine.
Agree with everyone about the AWE tips not befitting this type of car. Something more similar to stock but slightly larger would be perfect.
I too think that the tips are a bit too large. I have some Ebay 3X4 inch ovals in transit and I'll post some pictures of before and after when installed. The AWE tips are four inch round, 7 inches long (at the top), 5 1/2 inches long at the bottom and are 2 1/4 inch clamp on type.
Webtoker
10-14-2016, 08:24 AM
I agree with S4Vert about the fit, finish and sound of the AWE Touring exhaust. Mine is attached to the 3.0L engine.
I too think that the tips are a bit too large. I have some Ebay 3X4 inch ovals in transit and I'll post some pictures of before and after when installed. The AWE tips are four inch round, 7 inches long (at the top), 5 1/2 inches long at the bottom and are 2 1/4 inch clamp on type.
Excellent. I am going to start looking around for options. I will post pics of what I try out / come up with.
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cohall
10-14-2016, 08:36 AM
Excellent. I am going to start looking around for options. I will post pics of what I try out / come up with.
That would be very helpful. The obnoxious tips are pretty much the only reason I haven't purchased the AWE system yet. They just look so out of place on the S6, in my opinion. Way too big.
tenspeed
10-14-2016, 07:12 PM
Excellent. I am going to start looking around for options. I will post pics of what I try out / come up with.
These are what I ordered from eBay. I'm putting them on for the winter and keeping the AWE tips in the garage until spring.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/291275517900?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
There's plenty more available at higher costs. My goal was to find something to use in the winter slop of salt and grit.
Webtoker
10-15-2016, 03:50 PM
I contacted MTM and they don't sell the tips seperatly. However, I found these tips that look almost exactly the same. Ordered 4 of them and will post a pic once I have them on.
http://afepower.com/afe-power-49t25354-p06-mach-force-xp-2-1-2-304-stainless-steel-exhaust-tip
tenspeed
10-15-2016, 07:29 PM
I contacted MTM and they don't sell the tips seperatly. However, I found these tips that look almost exactly the same. Ordered 4 of them and will post a pic once I have them on.
Measure the pipes that the tips clamp onto. My 3.0L Touring exhaust has 2.25 inch pipe coming out of the mufflers.
Webtoker
10-15-2016, 07:41 PM
Measure the pipes that the tips clamp onto. My 3.0L Touring exhaust has 2.25 inch pipe coming out of the mufflers.
Ahh, good catch. I just canceled the order. Going to see what I can find that is 2.25 on the inlet.
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tenspeed
10-17-2016, 01:34 PM
Ahh, good catch. I just canceled the order. Going to see what I can find that is 2.25 on the inlet.
I didn't know what size pipe the A7 AWE exhaust used so I measured mine with the calipers. The S6 might be the same, it might be different.
Nokers
10-17-2016, 03:13 PM
Great write up on the exhaust...you firmly moved me off the fence and I placed an order today for the exhaust for my S6. Only about 6 weeks until I get to hear it for the first time!!
autobite
10-18-2016, 06:32 AM
Well that's promising!!! I live the TT v8 engine ( insert drool here). Maybe I will do it! Wonder what awe charges if you buy it and have them install vs install elsewhere they are pretty expensive from what I understand.
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Man I'm in the same boat as you. I have a 2016 a6 3.0t and really thinking about pulling the trigger on this exhaust. WIth all the video clips and all, I still can't get myself to spend 2k without listening to it in person. There is a guy on youtube that has this setup and actually lives near me but no response.
Man I'm in the same boat as you. I have a 2016 a6 3.0t and really thinking about pulling the trigger on this exhaust. WIth all the video clips and all, I still can't get myself to spend 2k without listening to it in person. There is a guy on youtube that has this setup and actually lives near me but no response.
Keep me posted
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I'm also in the same boat. Very close to pulling the trigger on both the AWE intake and AWE exhaust for my A7 3.0.
tenspeed
10-29-2016, 10:22 PM
These are what I ordered from eBay. I'm putting them on for the winter and keeping the AWE tips in the garage until spring.
There's plenty more available at higher costs. My goal was to find something to use in the winter slop of salt and grit.
I finished the installation of my tips today.
Before
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b72/tenspeed/Audi/exhaust/SIlverline%20tips/100_1357_zpspacrzd0a.jpg (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/tenspeed/media/Audi/exhaust/SIlverline%20tips/100_1357_zpspacrzd0a.jpg.html)
New tips
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b72/tenspeed/Audi/exhaust/SIlverline%20tips/100_1370_zpssopy9j1n.jpg (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/tenspeed/media/Audi/exhaust/SIlverline%20tips/100_1370_zpssopy9j1n.jpg.html)
S7 for comparison
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b72/tenspeed/Audi/exhaust/SIlverline%20tips/S7%20rear%2004_zpsk8oo4brk.jpg (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/tenspeed/media/Audi/exhaust/SIlverline%20tips/S7%20rear%2004_zpsk8oo4brk.jpg.html)
Borg54
10-30-2016, 08:04 AM
I seem to be in the minority here but I think thick chrome tips look dated and cheap. I like a thin more raw performance looking tip.
I guess the takeaway is exhaust companies have a wide audience to try to please so I'm glad you all found a solution that meets your aesthetic.
I just ordered an AWE after not liking the sound of removing the center muffler and resonator on the stock V6 pipes. Sounds too much like an exhaust leak.
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Borg54
10-30-2016, 08:15 AM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161030/a947c117948339ad2aa751ad21a0bf65.jpg
Although these are not Audi tips I think they are gorgeous with or without the carbon shroud
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RAF_S7
10-30-2016, 09:15 AM
I agree with Borg, I like the larger tips of the AWE system.
Your exhaust now looks like its stock.
Roadwarrior
10-30-2016, 10:37 AM
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b72/tenspeed/Audi/exhaust/SIlverline%20tips/100_1370_zpssopy9j1n.jpg[/URL]
i had to do a double take at the picture of your car on the ramps. Nice optical illusion making the right ramp look like it is off the ground. Haha
Dguth
10-30-2016, 11:15 AM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161030/a947c117948339ad2aa751ad21a0bf65.jpg
Although these are not Audi tips I think they are gorgeous with or without the carbon shroud
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What are these and will they fit on the AWE exhaust for S6?
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tenspeed
10-30-2016, 01:17 PM
I seem to be in the minority here but I think thick chrome tips look dated and cheap. I like a thin more raw performance looking tip.
I guess the takeaway is exhaust companies have a wide audience to try to please so I'm glad you all found a solution that meets your aesthetic.
I agree with Borg, I like the larger tips of the AWE system.
Your exhaust now looks like its stock.
The goal was to find an inexpensive and yet decent looking set of tips so I could put the black AWE tips away for the winter. To have it stock appearing for a few hours work and less than $150 USD seems good to me.
14S4GWM
10-30-2016, 01:21 PM
I agree with Borg, I like the larger tips of the AWE system.
Your exhaust now looks like its stock.
Agree with both
Borg54
10-30-2016, 03:09 PM
What are these and will they fit on the AWE exhaust for S6?
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These are from an Akrapovic but are made for a corvette. I simply posted them because I like the thin tubing and the Motorsport look.
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Borg54
10-30-2016, 03:12 PM
The goal was to find an inexpensive and yet decent looking set of tips so I could put the black AWE tips away for the winter. To have it stock appearing for a few hours work and less than $150 USD seems good to me.
I hope my posted didn't come across as trolling, I simply wanted to highlight that there are some very different aesthetics that people go for in an exhaust and I was surprised everyone was wanting a very stock look.
Thankfully out here in California I don't have to deal with winter [emoji12]
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Roadwarrior
10-30-2016, 03:25 PM
Those tips give a nice stealthy appearance. I love the large tips on my touring exhaust but it does scream modified. Even random strangers ask what brand my exhaust is. I am not talking Audi-philes but average Joe's.
autobite
10-31-2016, 06:56 AM
What are these and will they fit on the AWE exhaust for S6?
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they look like akrapovic tips
Webtoker
11-03-2016, 08:02 AM
@tenspeed did these tips have a clamp with them? I couldn't tell from the eBay listing.
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tenspeed
11-03-2016, 10:38 PM
@tenspeed did these tips have a clamp with them? I couldn't tell from the eBay listing.
The clamps were separate. I used stainless band clamps after I tried a set of T bolt clamps. The T bolts popped the spot welds when some torque was applied.
Clamps - > http://www.ebay.com/itm/171240781644?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Tips -> http://www.ebay.com/itm/291275517900?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Some modification was necessary to get the tips to fit. The inside was necked down when the tips were formed so I filed then Dremeled the throat until they slipped over the 2.25" AWE pipe. I cut eight slots in the end of each tip so the metal would bend when clamped. I had four slots when I popped the T bolt bands.
The drivers side outer tip had to be trimmed a bit to get it tucked in to match the passenger side. AWE didn't make both sides the same and they use a six inch length. The Silverlines are seven inch. I have pictures but Photobucket is down for maintenance.
autobite
11-08-2016, 12:05 PM
just pulled the trigger on an awe touring exhaust for my 2016 a6 3.0t. Can't wait to hear this bad boy on my car!
just pulled the trigger on an awe touring exhaust for my 2016 a6 3.0t. Can't wait to hear this bad boy on my car!
When is install. Post new thread with sound video ASAP.
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Ze_Nardo6
11-08-2016, 01:41 PM
just pulled the trigger on an awe touring exhaust for my 2016 a6 3.0t. Can't wait to hear this bad boy on my car!
I love those rectangular exhaust tips on the C7.5 A6...are you ditching those with this new exhaust?
I love those rectangular exhaust tips on the C7.5 A6...are you ditching those with this new exhaust?
I have those on my 16' A7. When I spoke to awe you have to get rid of those and put the regular pipes on which I do t know how it would look since the fascia is catered to the rectangular ones?
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Ze_Nardo6
11-08-2016, 04:21 PM
I have those on my 16' A7. When I spoke to awe you have to get rid of those and put the regular pipes on which I do t know how it would look since the fascia is catered to the rectangular ones?
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Thats what I was thinking
autobite
11-09-2016, 06:41 AM
Exhaust is suppose to come in 3 to 4 weeks and Eurotech in mahwah, nj will be installing it. I'm pretty sure the rectangular exhaust tips have to be removed but I plan on keeping everything in case i need to put it back to stock. I will definitely create a new post with my first impressions and some video. my car is completely stock so should be interested how the sound changes with future mods.
Borg54
11-09-2016, 07:05 AM
I am supposed to receive my AWE exhaust today and install tomorrow. I'll post sound videos and impressions as well
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Borg54
11-09-2016, 03:57 PM
Install happening tomorrow [emoji12]http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161109/523864df20bec69f8e5dd72158f93097.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161109/ebcb4ddcb28605fbcd6e0d354c159393.jpg
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Tips look great. I'm just not sure they would look good with the 16' or newer 7 since they are rectangular pipes and fascia. Anyone done this to a newer 7? I would totally get those tips
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Borg54
11-09-2016, 06:03 PM
Tips look great. I'm just not sure they would look good with the 16' or newer 7 since they are rectangular pipes and fascia. Anyone done this to a newer 7? I would totally get those tips
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Does AWE sell a new rear valance for the 16'? I would think that is all you would need I make these tips work.
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autobite
11-10-2016, 08:38 AM
Tips look great. I'm just not sure they would look good with the 16' or newer 7 since they are rectangular pipes and fascia. Anyone done this to a newer 7? I would totally get those tips
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you can see what it looks like on this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSkgpTQ7IT0
and hear it lol. This is the guy I was trying to contact to hear in person but no dice.
you can see what it looks like on this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSkgpTQ7IT0
and hear it lol. This is the guy I was trying to contact to hear in person but no dice.
Can you still get the pops and kind of back fire sound that you hear with the s7 when you let off the gas or car is down shifting with the awe????
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Although these are not Audi tips I think they are gorgeous with or without the carbon shroud
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CN you buy these tips and add them to let's say the awe exhaust??
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Borg54
11-11-2016, 04:42 PM
CN you buy these tips and add them to let's say the awe exhaust??
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Replicas but these should work:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/142126583825
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Replicas but these should work:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/142126583825
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161112/d2932c8a0c03cbaaa26ad8682e029bf8.png
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Lol. Nice!
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Ze_Nardo6
11-11-2016, 08:48 PM
Can you still get the pops and kind of back fire sound that you hear with the s7 when you let off the gas or car is down shifting with the awe????
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Are you referencing the 3.0? If so, the answer is no.
Sadly I am. Have a 16' 3.0T a7. Looking back should if just got the s7!
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