View Full Version : CEL help for cluster

03-05-2013, 05:23 AM
18058 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1650 - 35-10 - Missing Message from Instrument Cluster - Intermittent

received this. after some search on here i found a s4 thread with some info but cant figure out how to modify anything with my vag com (such a noob). i believe this is caused because i swapped out my circuit board on my cluster. please correct me if i'm wrong or provide any info on how to correct. thanks

this is the info i found, several other sites seem to point to this thread.

although i do not show the 5mpg i have noticed mine has gone down quite a bit. i cant figure out how to navigiate to a specific block. i hooked up original cluster to try and find the info they stated in the thread, i was able to find only a couple blocks.

Don Supreme
03-05-2013, 07:52 AM
Does that code cause the CEL to turn on?

03-05-2013, 09:58 AM
well when the CEL is on i check and it is this and o2 caused by no cat. i read i need to re-adapt the cluster.

03-05-2013, 12:06 PM

Not sure if this will help....but here you go.


You have to set the coding but that's specifically based on your car. So you have to first learn how to figure out what code to put in.


03-29-2013, 07:12 AM
bringing this back up. been doing tons of research and still cannot find out how to re-adapt cluster to my ECU. anyone have any more insight?

03-29-2013, 08:06 AM
p1650 means ecu isn't receiving appropriate feedback from the cluster. Most likely, you have a newer ecu and an older cluster. You can recode the cluster with vag-com. The link below shows how it's done with the s4's (they get the p1650 when installing an ecu from a car that came with a hitachi MAF in older bosch equipped cars).


03-29-2013, 08:42 AM
thanks, i will read up. this is a old cluster. came out of a 97 and had a full lcd. so i moved the circuit board over into my housing.