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indiana
03-02-2013, 06:18 PM
I managed to snap the 058-103-213 PVC thing while wrestling with the metal tube that snakes around the engine during my valve cover gasket replacement.

Not too mad as there was enough seepage around the part mentioned above and the three way pipe that contains the PVV valve. And my goal being no more oil-wif or drips..

I plan to order the parts from Autohaus... CAN NOT find the part # for the part that is in the block that receives part mentioned above.
It seems brittle and ready to fail to. I looked at the 035 kit... but it does not include this mystery part...(plastic box attached to block with the two hex head bolts).

Advice?

Seerlah
03-02-2013, 06:49 PM
Only part of the block the breather system is attached to is held in by a c-clip. And that part is the block crankcase breather tube. 034 has this as part of their kit, integrated as one piece.

indiana
03-02-2013, 06:57 PM
So the 034 kit bypasses the stock plastic thing the 058-103-213 goes into with the o-ring?
I should just go to bed and call Autohause and 034 on Monday.
Cheers.

Seerlah
03-02-2013, 07:22 PM
The 034 kit is actually worth that price. Here is a pic of the crank case breather hose, and where it is on the 034 unit.

http://s14.postimage.org/52qh4zsy9/ecs_part.jpg

http://s12.postimage.org/4d7ypmapp/034_part.jpg

demonmk2
03-02-2013, 07:28 PM
the 034 pc is definitely worth it especially if you're replacing/upgrading...better design on there part[up]

walky_talky20
03-02-2013, 08:04 PM
The part the OP is talking about is indeed not included as part of the 034 kit. It is a dealer only item, and is a bit pricey:

http://c1552172.r72.cf0.rackcdn.com/128900_x600.jpg

http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/037_103_772_B/ES274480/

Needs this gasket too, also pricey:
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/048_103_771/ES276335/

Wow. The prices they charge for plastic parts are rubber o-rings are just ridiculous. Robbery, I tell you.

Seerlah
03-02-2013, 08:07 PM
Oh [confused]

walky_talky20
03-02-2013, 08:14 PM
On the 06A block, the breather pipe is clipped into the metal oil housing. But on the 058 block, it has a plastic housing that bolts to the block which the breather pipe clips into. Being plastic, it is susceptible to failure.

indiana
03-03-2013, 07:42 AM
Thanks Walky... that is the part I am inquiring about... And the clip ring groove is cracked although I think it is serviceable.

I don't want to over maintain my car... I mentioned it is only in the low 80's but realistically I don't see running it much past 130k or keeping it more than 4-5 more years.

Mad Cow
03-03-2013, 07:47 AM
The part the OP is talking about is indeed not included as part of the 034 kit. It is a dealer only item, and is a bit pricey:


Wow. The prices they charge for plastic parts are rubber o-rings are just ridiculous. Robbery, I tell you.

They used to cost less than half as much as they do now, I called a couple of local parts places and they all told me VAG raised the price a couple of years ago. Apparently there used to be a cheaper aftermarket version too. As long as you're careful you won't need to replace it, there really isn't many places it could crack and cause a leak.

indiana
03-03-2013, 08:02 AM
And now that we have a #
http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=mivghp455rnepxz305esrg55&partnumber=037103772B


I think I'll stop with the previous part. Don't want to put more than $4Yo0 /per month av. Maintenance in it.

You know German stuff drives nice, but I don't find so many plastic bits failing on Japanese or American cars.
25 year old Taurus LCD's still work, and a 24 year old accord with cruise control functioning.

Quirks all around but Euro plastic and Electonics are a bummer.

indiana
03-11-2013, 05:24 AM
Just an update... replaced the 058-103-213 PVC thing, plastic "T" and PVC valve with stock items... Left my slightly damaged block breather in place for now.
Anyway... perhaps the 034 parts are worth every penny?! The stock stuff was an absolute pain in the arse to get into place. The connections between the turbo oil supply and other bits is so tight. I left the intake on. Removing the rubber air intake pipe let me get one arm under things. But I must have wrestled with crap for 3 hours!!! I dunno the O34 thing may have been impossible to thread through all that stuff too without removal (any have experience?) .
I now have fresh valve cover gasket and clean PCV system, hope for no more burnt oil wiffs in the passenger comp.
I still may have to drop pan to fix small drip on that gasket.....

Got my parts from ECS... they had them instock.. but a few bucks more than the others... but they were in stock!

seanf86
03-11-2013, 11:35 AM
The part the OP is talking about is indeed not included as part of the 034 kit. It is a dealer only item, and is a bit pricey:

http://c1552172.r72.cf0.rackcdn.com/128900_x600.jpg

http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/037_103_772_B/ES274480/

Needs this gasket too, also pricey:
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/048_103_771/ES276335/

Wow. The prices they charge for plastic parts are rubber o-rings are just ridiculous. Robbery, I tell you.

A while ago i remember reading about a metal version boxs on the older jetta/golfs, couldnt find the post to go with it tho not sure if it was mk2 or mk3 i cant find the post however

walky_talky20
03-11-2013, 01:48 PM
Yeah, I think I remember posting on the subject. Here is what the metal version looks like (this one is powder coated black):

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q14/dciguy73/for%20sale/01111.jpg

From here:
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4895619-FS-crankcase-breather-housing...socal&p=66944398

And here is what it looks like installed:

http://www.driversfound.com/scirocco/techtips/engine/swap-3a/3abreather1.jpg

You can also use a freeze plug to block the circular port and use a CNC block off plate with AN fitting like this:

http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab123/81type53/Scirocco/IMG_2355.jpg

GrapeBandit
03-11-2013, 02:32 PM
^^ and this BBM piece works on an AEB? according to their site the one you posetd is to replace the metal style, they sell another style that says replaces the plastic style. the plastic style doesnt have a threaded port(although not hard to do myself), and is ugly as sin.
http://www.bahnbrenner.com/vw_audi/products/product_images/phpIU9rhT.main_thumb.jpg

im sure it does work, but if you have any first hand, lmk. tnx



EDIT: NVM looks to work, just comes without the freeze plug and the bolts. not a big deal. looks better and its already tapped!

.Mad Hatter.
12-12-2013, 03:56 AM
The gaskets look different between the 2 units; I would assume you could buy an OEM gasket from the dealer though if you were to get the early, pre tapped one?