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boot
02-24-2013, 04:57 PM
Alright, I was going with a gt28rs but due to my budget constraints I'll be doing a frankentubo setup. My question is what type of tune is the most aggressive I can get? I was looking at motoza tuning but have herd its not very aggressive. I'm thinking more of an eurodyne tune with 440cc injectors. (Green giant)

Thoughts?

This is for a stock bottom end 1.8 ATW.

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demonmk2
02-24-2013, 04:59 PM
I've heard c2motorsports 440 tune is good
I have a friend who has that setup in a gti, runs really good

ray4624
02-24-2013, 05:01 PM
you could run a UM 630 tune that would allow you to easily upgrade to a larger turbo down the road.

GOODBYNAAIR
02-24-2013, 05:07 PM
If your on a stock motor an aggressive tune with the hard torque spike of the F21 could lead to bad things just something to think about. motoza made 229 whp on a B6 with the F4h old fanken.

are you an AWM car?

geeky
02-24-2013, 05:08 PM
searching is your friend

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/464304-Franken-Turbo-Tuning

ray4624
02-24-2013, 05:27 PM
If your on a stock motor an aggressive tune with the hard torque spike of the F21 could lead to bad things just something to think about. motoza made 229 whp on a B6 with the F4h old fanken.

are you an AWM car?

its usually unwanted boost spikes that will destroy a car with this turbo
safe bet would be running an mbc

boot
02-24-2013, 08:06 PM
you could run a UM 630 tune that would allow you to easily upgrade to a larger turbo down the road.

This would be good because I do plan on going bigger down the road.

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boot
02-24-2013, 08:07 PM
searching is your friend

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/464304-Franken-Turbo-Tuning

Thanks for that. I'll have to take a look at it.

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boot
02-24-2013, 08:13 PM
If your on a stock motor an aggressive tune with the hard torque spike of the F21 could lead to bad things just something to think about. motoza made 229 whp on a B6 with the F4h old fanken.

are you an AWM car?

I'm an atw so my options are kinda limited.

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Gberg888
02-25-2013, 04:55 AM
I am looking into a tune for a franken as well as I am an atw car...

Gberg888
02-25-2013, 04:58 AM
I have some random 440s sitting around too. Anyone know how the C2 tune is?

They also have an inline fuel pump... should we be going with that if we are rocking 440s?

boot
02-25-2013, 07:54 AM
I am looking into a tune for a franken as well as I am an atw car...

Yeah I'm still not sure what I should do. I want to find a tune that will delete EVAP, SAI, N249, I'm looking into eurodyne. If I go with them I'll be able to upgrade to a bigger turbo later.

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QuattroGinger
02-25-2013, 09:10 AM
i recently did a FT setup on my AWM. i went with Genesis 415cc injectors and will soon be getting UM tune. im pretty sure they can do all the things you want.

chris164935
02-25-2013, 09:28 AM
Stand-alone would be the most aggressive tune you could get. [>_<]

nynoah
02-25-2013, 10:35 AM
Why in the heck would you want an aggressive tune with stock rods? All I can do is shake my head. Get a tune that will work and in addition, get a high flow exhaust, cat and FMIC.

boot
02-25-2013, 10:38 AM
i recently did a FT setup on my AWM. i went with Genesis 415cc injectors and will soon be getting UM tune. im pretty sure they can do all the things you want.

That sounds pretty good to me. I was looking at their stage 2 tune and that should be just fine for my setup.

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nynoah
02-25-2013, 10:54 AM
Get Moteza or however that is spelled. A custom tune for less than a grand... can't beat that.

GOODBYNAAIR
02-25-2013, 01:44 PM
Why in the heck would you want an aggressive tune with stock rods? All I can do is shake my head. Get a tune that will work and in addition, get a high flow exhaust, cat and FMIC.

Like I said before^ But

If he is an ATW I dont know if he can run motoza I think its only for wideban cars thats why its more common with the B6 1.8t guys.

nynoah
02-25-2013, 01:51 PM
He can convert his car to AWM computer with those wide band kits. Do that and it unlocks a world of tuning options that are far superior.

boot
02-25-2013, 01:54 PM
He can convert his car to AWM computer with those wide band kits. Do that and it unlocks a world of tuning options that are far superior.

I'd like to go atw to awm but I'm not sure how to do that yet.

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boot
02-25-2013, 02:02 PM
Can I just use this kit from raceline?

http://www.raceline-ws.com/rlwa_18_adapter

Is it all plug and play?

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GOODBYNAAIR
02-25-2013, 02:05 PM
A lot of people do it there may be a diy some place? If your go wide band this will be useful to look at its from the B6 a4 forum but a lot of info on the franken turbo.


http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/326446-Frankenturbo-F4h-l-Audi-A4-Quattro?highlight=franken+turbo

demonmk2
02-25-2013, 02:41 PM
I have some random 440s sitting around too. Anyone know how the C2 tune is?

They also have an inline fuel pump... should we be going with that if we are rocking 440s?

yes they are good tunes for the price....if you plan on going to SOWO they ussually run a special ( half off on all tunes )

I have the 550 BT tune on mine and love it!

and a friend who has the 440 tune on a frankenturbo 02 337 gti...it hauls ass!
and yes he had to upgrade the fuel pump as did I

nynoah
02-25-2013, 03:01 PM
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/474966-ATW-to-AWM-Wideband-Swap

has info on the wide band swap stuff.

boot
02-26-2013, 10:39 AM
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/474966-ATW-to-AWM-Wideband-Swap

has info on the wide band swap stuff.

Thanks, I think I'm just gonna go with UM's 440cc tune. It seems to be one of the best and is only 500 bucks. Can't go wrong with that.

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Avant Nate
02-26-2013, 10:58 AM
Another option, though much more labor intensive would be Maestro. There is a 440 K04 tune using stock maf that probably wouldn't be hard to scale. Then if you want to go big in the future, tune is already there.

boot
02-26-2013, 12:26 PM
Another option, though much more labor intensive would be Maestro. There is a 440 K04 tune using stock maf that probably wouldn't be hard to scale. Then if you want to go big in the future, tune is already there.

With UM if I need to I can go big later. It's just going to be my dd for now. I might just keep it this way for a while. I'm a broke college kid and can't afford any more mods for a while Lol.

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Mad Cow
02-26-2013, 01:19 PM
It seems like everybody is just glossing over VVT, you can't just wire up a resistor. If you're getting a custom tune you could probably ask the tuner to code it out, but otherwise you're SOL unless you know how to do it yourself.

The harness mods are a piece of cake, it really isn't hard wiring up a 6-pin plug when 4 of the wires are already the same. Likewise with the resistor. Sure the raceline harness is pretty but IMO it's not worth anywhere near what it's selling for when I made mine for free. If you can't visit a junkyard you can buy the wideband plug and contacts for less than $30, then all you need is a couple feet of wire.

Avant Nate
02-26-2013, 01:40 PM
With UM if I need to I can go big later. It's just going to be my dd for now. I might just keep it this way for a while. I'm a broke college kid and can't afford any more mods for a while Lol.

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Never mind Maestro, just realized you are ATW.