(Tmurt)-2007 A4 3.2 project

[TMurt]

So I decided to start a post here for anyone interested, being a 3.2 everything is cosmetic basically. But it could be helpful for someone looking for an OEM+ looking design. This is my first car (yes got it when I was 16 1/2). Bought (parents bought to be honest) it in December 2010. I love it, parents have been big Audi fans and while I don't deserve a car this nice, I take care of it like none other and truly appreciate what I have and have had a great time in this community

The car is a 2007
-Brilliant Black 3.2 Quattro tip
-Bought with 55k miles (now 78k)
-Non s line (regret that)
-Convenience package (don't regret that)
-Cold weather package

Unfortunately I didn’t find this community until 2 months after buying, for anyone interested in what I’d do differently:

1) Get an S line (even SE), at first the minor changes seem, well, minor, but you’ll kick yourself later with a non s line
2) Get it in manual, I didn’t know how to drive stick, and am still learning, but it would make things more interesting
3) Make sure it had xenon lights (it does, but I didn’t pay attention at the time)
4) Maybe a 2.0, but being young, I didn’t think my parents would approve of chipping it and the 3.2 is a great engine, but it is what it is so to speak

Car as purchased in December 2010

Initially threw on a euro plate to fill the plate holder

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Vrm8m0CY_dQ/UBdWejrZZfI/AAAAAAAAAI4/tLj60b5735Q/s912/APRIL%2520176.JPG

In May 2011, I shipped my headlights out to Phil to have his awesome LEDs installed

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_Xtq0aAuMVPk/TdBtHzCjqMI/AAAAAAAAAIc/DsYmU4XH5tI/s640/Comparison%20007.JPG

In June 2011, I had the windows tinted 30% and bought clear sidemarkers

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-HX1_aa7zqas/Tevwk64HVrI/AAAAAAAAAA0/tVHeMPHVTRs/s912/Washed%2520005.JPG

In July 2011, I finally gave in and had Eibach springs and Koni sport shocks installed to lower it . And had the calipers painted black and put an S line decal on for a little extra something

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5c9cHlO-3Xw/T4uUVo9HTpI/AAAAAAAAACw/RE83W_nD5ZQ/s912/NEWEST%2520005.JPG

Didn’t touch it until November 2011, when I ordered an Ebay RS4 grill and wrapped it in gloss black shadowline (no one sells a gloss black non s line mesh grill), Also used it to black out those clear front sidemarkers. Also had the chrome window trim blacked out with the shadowline

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8z2jwwiqij8/T4SZ_wyO_lI/AAAAAAAAACQ/MKMVNjcAGOo/s912/NEWEST%2520007-001.JPG
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5ZFpzETzhec/T-iT_BaRqLI/AAAAAAAAAHo/g8bwz1GflSY/s912/Summer%2520Detail%2520050.JPG

In February 2012, I ordered an RS4 rear swar bar and put that on (great value for the money)

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Car remained the same until September 2012. Dad dropped a chunk of metal onto the trunk lid (offered to pay for the repair) and the place quoted $500 to fix it. So I bought an S4 trunk lid off the classified and had it installed instead (minor change but that spoiler really helps the appearance of the rear)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-u-K9M3B_740/USe2AKXz_VI/AAAAAAAAAOw/LnixezqcosU/s912/IMG_2330.JPG
with new wheels
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ATgd5Ng7eZw/USe2ADfnI_I/AAAAAAAAAOs/KHTvnCZmAa0/s1152/IMG_0193.JPG

Come November 2012, the time came for new tires, so I decided to do it right and by some OZ Superturismo LMs for the car to get the Titanium look. Love it!
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-VU7BrxM47UQ/UIw80OpuCMI/AAAAAAAAAK4/1h9fWUiZrIE/s1152/IMG_0192.JPG
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Eyx7dDBrKO4/UI3zZDh7ecI/AAAAAAAAAMY/pLfgCG-2eJI/s1152/IMG_0205.JPG


Finally in January 2013, I had Adam’s Rotors installed with Posi quiet pads
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(pics to come)

November 2013 , S line valence pained and installed. Car detailed
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[AudIIan]

random question but saying as u mentioned ur young how old are you? i always feel like im one of the youngest guys on here that is doing clean yet serious mods on my cars and im 23

with that said your car def looks good for what u have to work with, i am always on the fence with the whole led headlight thing even tho phil does an amazingggg job, but everything else is looking good, i def give u props for being a young dood yet not modding like one

[IronAudi]

Nice looking A4, performance wise you are kinda limited I know, but, there are new files for the the 3.2 and they sell exhausts and Intakes that will give the engine some pep and a great sound. Or theirs always the first 3.2 Turbo conversion.

[ericpaulyoung]

Looks very classy and clean!

Eric

[TMurt]

random question but saying as u mentioned ur young how old are you? i always feel like im one of the youngest guys on here that is doing clean yet serious mods on my cars and im 23

with that said your car def looks good for what u have to work with, i am always on the fence with the whole led headlight thing even tho phil does an amazingggg job, but everything else is looking good, i def give u props for being a young dood yet not modding like one


I'm 18, will be 19 this summer. None of mine are quite serious, just work over summer and put what I make here haha. The LEDs are awesome and very reliable, no problems at all. It depends where you'd rather put the money in the end though. haha thanks man, I've seen some of the disaster intro threads on here, glad to not be one


Nice looking A4, performance wise you are kinda limited I know, but, there are new files for the the 3.2 and they sell exhausts and Intakes that will give the engine some pep and a great sound. Or theirs always the first 3.2 Turbo conversion.

Thanks man, I don't mind, I'd be flat broke if I could buy more performance. I might consider an exhaust down the road, the car will be mine for 4/5 more years likely, the AWE exhausts sound great to me. I'm hesitant to be adventurous as I don't have a lot of funds and need the car to be reliable, so we'll see. A lot of the paths for the 3.2 are dead ends now

[Street Nasty]

Car looks good. You did great with it. I would've went with coilovers though. Your car is almost murdered out, maybe photoshop black rings and smoked side markers.

[A-FourLO]

car looks very nice my ideal setup except needs to be 6-speed manual. IMHO there is no such thing as a dead end only a new path that needs to be explored [up]. Think outside the box and you would be surprised what you can learn. Keep up the good work man!

[TFSI]

So... what's next?

[TMurt]

car looks very nice my ideal setup except needs to be 6-speed manual. IMHO there is no such thing as a dead end only a new path that needs to be explored [up]. Think outside the box and you would be surprised what you can learn. Keep up the good work man!

Yeah wish I could have a manual right now. And that is very true statement sir. I should rephrase, *A lot of the paths for the 3.2 require a lot more funding to complete hahaha
But I will look into more things, unfortunately with the 3.2 being dropped from every model now, the odds drop more.


So... what's next?

Several possibilities

On the costly side
-Exhaust
-Ocarbon Interior trim
-S line front (if front end damage ever occurs)

Time consuming/creative/cheaper
-Brushed Aluminum interior trim
-HID Fog lights
-Maybe try a do RS4 mess around the fog light, never seen it done on a 3.2 because the vents are different (no intercoolers)
-Cold air intake (if one seems to have a good rep)

[TMurt]

Debating getting my S line valence put on. Although I don't know what to do. It came primed from ECS but a shop wanted 200 or so to paint it which is absurd.

I've considered wrapping it maybe with gloss black shadowline or maybe cf vinyl. Then coat it with an epoxy clear coat maybe, thoughts?

[glissoar]

Debating getting my S line valence put on. Although I don't know what to do. It came primed from ECS but a shop wanted 200 or so to paint it which is absurd.

I've considered wrapping it maybe with gloss black shadowline or maybe cf vinyl. Then coat it with an epoxy clear coat maybe, thoughts?
See if you can find a mobile vender that does bumper repair that does quality work, they are so much cheaper, I got the guy that works with the dealership I'm at to paint my bumper and b red and the valence matte black for 125 and it looks excellent for the price

[TMurt]

See if you can find a mobile vender that does bumper repair that does quality work, they are so much cheaper, I got the guy that works with the dealership I'm at to paint my bumper and b red and the valence matte black for 125 and it looks excellent for the price

Very good advice! thanks! I'll look into it

[mec]

Very good advice! thanks! I'll look into it

3.2TT in the works?

[yungcotter]

Debating getting my S line valence put on. Although I don't know what to do. It came primed from ECS but a shop wanted 200 or so to paint it which is absurd.

I've considered wrapping it maybe with gloss black shadowline or maybe cf vinyl. Then coat it with an epoxy clear coat maybe, thoughts?

Plastidip it

[TMurt]

Took the headlight out after having 3 led bulbs (or something inside the unit) fail on me, having them shipped to phil. Who I should add was awesome about the issue and has insane response time[up]
Also planning to plastidip my new S line valence glossy black, along with my front grill which has peeling shadowline. Also, I've never seen this done on a non s line, but I wanted to get some RS4 fog mesh into the fog grills, not sure why its never done on a non s line, but it should be a similar fit.

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh509/tmurtlow/EB561062-9834-4377-8086-990227EDCA05-14859-000009C4409D2D59_zpsf50c5769.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/tmurtlow/media/EB561062-9834-4377-8086-990227EDCA05-14859-000009C4409D2D59_zpsf50c5769.jpg.html)

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[jsandor91]

first ive heard of something going wrong with phil's lights
glad you got it resolved quickly!
customer service ftw

[TMurt]

first ive heard of something going wrong with phil's lights
glad you got it resolved quickly!
customer service ftw

Well the seal began to leak a while back, and occasionally the light would fog up but never condensed. I'm assuming the moisture corroded something, the LEDs work on and off but in no specific pattern. But I've had them in just over 2 years now

[TMurt]

Shadowline will never touch my car again...good lord...the adhesive was atrocious on the grill after removing the tape. After looking up some stuff here I saw a quote which sums up the process "Grab a bottle of goo gone, a beer, and scrub while swearing for hours". I ended up getting acetone and stripping the silver off as well as the adhesive, such a PITA
http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh509/tmurtlow/3898A607-B843-44AC-95B5-44534B44F568-9954-0000082FE8C13F86_zps6cf254f9.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/tmurtlow/media/3898A607-B843-44AC-95B5-44534B44F568-9954-0000082FE8C13F86_zps6cf254f9.jpg.html)

[TMurt]

I scratched the rs4 fog mesh idea. $160 was too much for me to justify, especially when it'd be lost if the front end was ever damaged. Put 4 coats of plastidip and a can of glossifier on the grill and the result is pretty good in my opinion. Not quite the color or the shadowline but I'm sure a much better path to take. Headlight is back and working flawlessly thanks to phil also. Valence should hopefully be painted this week

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[TMurt]

Finally got around to painting and putting on the S line valence, some before and after pics. sadly nothing else to report

The move from non s line rear to S line rear
BEFORE:
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AFTER
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[A-FourLO]

car is lookin good man.

[mec]

You know what would be nuts? 3.2TT whoa......

[thejoemeyer]

You know what would be nuts? 3.2TT whoa......
The 3.2 is such a high compression engine, I think 12.5:1, imagine what being able to shove in all that extra air will do to performance, especially at higher revs... It'd be like giving an olympic runner an oxygen mask

[mec]

The 3.2 is such a high compression engine, I think 12.5:1, imagine what being able to shove in all that extra air will do to performance, especially at higher revs... It'd be like giving an olympic runner an oxygen mask and an IV to the lungs running 20 psi of fresh oxygen.

Fixed!

You could run some low boost on it...or drop down the piston size...I mean the rs4 is 14.something:1 and they run a supercharger that is probably making 10psi min.

[Jake@JHM]

The RS4 is 12.5:1 and we are below 10PSI with our supercharger kit.

I am sure we can squeeze our Vortech V-3 unit in there somewhere. =]

[ericpaulyoung]

Drop static CR to 9:1, and run 15-20 psi boost. You have a beast with no knock and no need for meth.
EPY

[ericpaulyoung]

Hell, 10:1 wod be fine.

[Jake@JHM]

Leave the compression stock, more power that way.

[ericpaulyoung]

Leave the compression stock, more power that way.

Ya, but less boost is possible.

I run less than 8.5:1 and can push 25 psi before pulling any timing at all with 93 oct fuel. It feels fast to me ;) The ticket is to have as much static compression as possible, so I agree with you there, but first figure out how much dynamic pressure you want to run, then back calculate the static needed to get there.

epy

[Jake@JHM]

Ya, but less boost is possible.

I run less than 8.5:1 and can push 25 psi before pulling any timing at all with 93 oct fuel. It feels fast to me ;) The ticket is to have as much static compression as possible, so I agree with you there, but first figure out how much dynamic pressure you want to run, then back calculate the static needed to get there.

epy

More boost doesn't always equal more power though. Since your engine is essentially an air pump, the more air you can flow the more power you can make. Boost or (PSI) is just a matter of restriction, not how much air is being flown. If your engine is able to flow the air very well you will have less PSI as compared to an engine with the same exact setup that cannot flow as much air.

The engine that does not flow as much air will be making more boost but less power. (assuming tuning etc. is the same between both engines. Only difference is that one can flow more.)

[ericpaulyoung]

More boost doesn't always equal more power though. Since your engine is essentially an air pump, the more air you can flow the more power you can make. Boost or (PSI) is just a matter of restriction, not how much air is being flown. If your engine is able to flow the air very well you will have less PSI as compared to an engine with the same exact setup that cannot flow as much air.

The engine that does not flow as much air will be making more boost but less power. (assuming tuning etc. is the same between both engines. Only difference is that one can flow more.)

Given a particular engine, if you turn up the boost you usually turn up the power. :) Now comparing two different engines, sure you can get one with less boost but better balance and tuning to outperform the other engine with more boost but not as balanced and with a bad tune. But that is a bad comparison in my opinion.

epy

TLDR - more flow = more power; however you can get the flow to increase is how you usually turn up the power.

[Jake@JHM]

Sorry, I was referring to the same engine for both.

Lets say 2.7T with our RS6-R Turbo kit and our tuning and fueling.


Car (A) Has:

stock 2.7T
piggies
2.5" turbo back exhaust.



Car (B) Has:

Ported 2.8L heads
RS4 intake manifold
RS4 Cams
3" Dps
single 4" exhaust.

Both cars have the the same turbos, and tuning and fueling. For arguments sake say that the MBCs are set at exactly the same so they only allow the turbos to flow X about of air.

Car A is going to read more PSI than car B because car A has more restriction. Car B is going to make more power because it is flowing the air more efficiently.


While yes, turning up the boost usually will make more power, but it gets to a point where a more efficient engine will make more power with less boost (since boost=restriction). However, just because it has less boost does not mean it is flowing less air.

I guess it is kind of a hard concept to explain =P



Acutally,

Take two straws. one straw is 2mm in diameter and the other is 8mm in diameter. You take each straw one at a time and blow as hard as your can for 10 seconds. The distance your cheeks balloon out will resemble restriction(boost) and you (the person exhaling) resemble the engine (ie 2.7t). The diameter straw will resemble lets say the work done to the engine. The 2mm straw will balloon your cheeks out farther than the 8mm straw will. However, the the 8mm straw flowed more CFM over the 10 seconds of time.

Hopefully that makes sense [>_<]

Jake

PS: Sorry op!

[ericpaulyoung]

Sorry, I was referring to the same engine for both.

Car (B) Has:

Ported 2.8L heads
RS4 intake manifold
RS4 Cams
3" Dps
single 4" exhaust.



Ok, tell me this. Considering car B only. Will running 15 psi of boost on car B make more power than running 25 psi of boost on car B?

epy

It is funny Jake, but if you look at posts 31 and 32, we are in vigorous agreement :)

[ericpaulyoung]

Sorry, I was referring to the same engine for both.

Car (A) Has:

stock 2.7T
piggies
2.5" turbo back exhaust.

Car (B) Has:

Ported 2.8L heads
RS4 intake manifold
RS4 Cams
3" Dps
single 4" exhaust.


I would really consider that car A and car B have very different setups, and not that they have the "same engine". I consider the heads, cams, and intake all part of the engine. [:D] You trying to hedge your bets on me.

epy

[Jake@JHM]

Depends,

An engine can only flow a certain amount. Lets call it 3500cfm. If 15PSI of those turbos equals 3500cfm and and 25PSI is 6000cfm, then no because the engine can only flow 3500cfm.

But since we are talking about an RS6-R 2.7T your answer is yes. If car B set the MBC to 15psi did a pull and then set it to 25psi, you will be making more power on the 25psi because that is the optimal efficiency range on the stock 2.7T with those turbos.

[Jake@JHM]

I would really consider that car A and car B have very different setups, and not that they have the "same engine". I consider the heads, cams, and intake all part of the engine. [:D] You trying to hedge your bets on me.

epy

Haha! I was just combating your More boost = more power statement [:D]

[ericpaulyoung]

Depends,

An engine can only flow a certain amount. Lets call it 3500cfm. If 15PSI of those turbos equals 3500cfm and and 25PSI is 6000cfm, then no because the engine can only flow 3500cfm.

But since we are talking about an RS6-R 2.7T your answer is yes. If car B set the MBC to 15psi did a pull and then set it to 25psi, you will be making more power on the 25psi because that is the optimal efficiency range on the stock 2.7T with those turbos.

I think we both like to discuss cars too much to let the other person say the same thing a different way, but in agreement, and get away with it. It must be "my" way of explaining things that is optimum. You should hear the holiday conversations at my Dad's house! We all think the same, but it sounds like all out war!

Sorry OP for the digression :)
epy

epy

[Jake@JHM]

Haha yeah I can imagine!

Yeah, sorry OP =P

Jake

[mec]

This one is Eric
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/003/683/taco.jpg


And this is Jake
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v116/emilysdad/THREADJACK.gif

[Jake@JHM]

Lol thanks

[mec]

Lol thanks

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/7d/7dc45560554dfcb4cc72b76b1c8e98240e8568f21f4c65cba7 e82f73ed743960.jpg

[Jake@JHM]

Don't forget the interstellar bubble suits lol

[ericpaulyoung]

Dude, I am not that bald! :) But I do love tacos!

epy

[mec]

Dude, I am not that bald! :) But I do love tacos!

epy

not that bald fixed! just a little more hair
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kwMKwkeltqY/TXzTAEB268I/AAAAAAAAAD4/oXb8R69es-E/s1600/patrick_stewart.jpg

I didn't even know you were bald, you look young enough to just be one of those guys who shaves their heads....what are you 43ish?

[ericpaulyoung]

hehe, nope. I am 38 in Feb. Getting close to over the hill :/

epy

[mec]

hehe, nope. I am 38 in Feb. Getting close to over the hill :/

epy

Over the kill is halfway isn't it? The first person who will make it to 150 is supposedly already born, which means you should atleast make it to 120, don't bitch out!

[thejoemeyer]

The RS4 is 12.5:1 and we are below 10PSI with our supercharger kit.

I am sure we can squeeze our Vortech V-3 unit in there somewhere. =]
Actually, this is getting really interesting... I'd love to hear more about being able to fit that V-3 in with the engine, how extensive of a process do you think that would be, and you don't think it'll cause the engine to run too hot?

[TMurt]

No worries guys, its an interesting read haha. I am a bit curious as to why the 3.2 has so few options, I'd assume the N/A fact and its limited production relative to the 3.2. The main thing keeping me from putting more money into anything is the fact that its only a tiptronic sadly

[mec]

How do you like the oz's? I really wanted to pick up a set but at $2k they are out of my budget

[TMurt]

How do you like the oz's? I really wanted to pick up a set but at $2k they are out of my budget

I love them, my were $359 a piece. The wheels look great and are much lighter than stock wheels. But honestly, they are a pain to keep clean, even with low dust brake pads on them. I'd probably get something with a simpler design if I went around again

[Pashody]

Actually, this is getting really interesting... I'd love to hear more about being able to fit that V-3 in with the engine, how extensive of a process do you think that would be, and you don't think it'll cause the engine to run too hot?

x2

[CLEANA3]

looking real good , nice and clean